From unknown Sat Aug 16 19:17:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30895: C-u RET broken on some groups Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 30895 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 30895@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.152165487821734 (code B ref -1); Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:55:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Mar 2018 17:54:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46172 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eyhwc-0005eU-DZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 13:54:38 -0400 Received: from homie.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208]:38310 helo=homiemail-a62.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eyhwb-0005eM-AG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 13:54:37 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a62.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a62.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F38634075 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 10:54:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=GuroDne+9HkaNdvZXuukFX449a8=; b=EyrCbO0uO+LLTBR/ GfreH/MzPtzagEe+t95xSI2uNN3DFTpr49dqba09r1krYGw2sd7nZ3r3Tin/iyW3 o9eAcTgo+K7C/B3qPZJSg6DReFw8cTTWVqBY3BzdPZxHyeH2SYBlP+zmDcOeTKNs m84L6AVf7MCClKXcAtNRoo7lcY0= Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-7-59.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.41.7.59]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a62.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D011363406C for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 10:54:35 -0700 (PDT) From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 01:54:33 +0800 Message-ID: <87r2odjova.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) On some groups C-u RET asks How many articles from mail.debianbugs (available 656, default 200): but then says "No unread news". The only way to get in is just a plain RET. On other groups C-u RET works normally. Gnus v5.13 GNU Emacs 25.2.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.28) of 2018-02-19, modified by Debian From unknown Sat Aug 16 19:17:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30895: C-u RET broken on some groups Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 16:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30895 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Cc: 30895@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 30895-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30895.15235521124164 (code B ref 30895); Thu, 12 Apr 2018 16:56:01 +0000 Received: (at 30895) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2018 16:55:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48263 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fVA-000155-Fr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:55:12 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:59399) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fV8-00014p-Oq for 30895@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:55:11 -0400 Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fV4-00017M-SB; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:55:09 +0200 Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fUz-00053X-5D; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:55:01 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87r2odjova.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:55:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87r2odjova.fsf@jidanni.org> ("=?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Thu, 22 Mar 2018 01:54:33 +0800") Message-ID: <87bmeoqs9n.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > On some groups C-u RET asks > How many articles from mail.debianbugs (available 656, default 200): > but then says "No unread news". With C-u RET 200 you're asking for the last 200 messages. Perhaps they don't exist any more? Without the C-u you'll just get the ones that exist. So I don't think this sounds like a bug. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 12 12:55:12 2018 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2018 16:55:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48265 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fVA-000157-O6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:55:12 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:59403) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fV9-00014s-OD for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:55:12 -0400 Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fV7-0001G0-D7 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:55:11 +0200 Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fV1-00053a-CT for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:55:03 +0200 To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #30895 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:55:03 +0200 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 30895 notabug close 30895 From unknown Sat Aug 16 19:17:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30895: C-u RET broken on some groups In-Reply-To: <87r2odjova.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30895 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 30895@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 30895-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30895.15237895799100 (code B ref 30895); Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:53:02 +0000 Received: (at 30895) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2018 10:52:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53070 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7fHD-0002Mf-LK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 06:52:59 -0400 Received: from homie.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208]:60045 helo=homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7fH8-0002ML-Fo for 30895@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 06:52:54 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF53810AFBD; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 03:52:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=jidanni.org; bh=dzck+E55fmldTBR5PwU dU7sLjnM=; b=iwefiJ7wC5zYMmFsYrvJbz2+laa2TbZOc7Dgv0lK0zmrw4fB240 kjnCaay0vMfsQeac7gjVG+OOTLAP5P5rhEXzcqV7KMrIwR/BeMomhIlWifq9Aq18 aJi2iAwuoIpN+yfBdI50mwkzC0VptmTOOvTOmVs3yJsjrfUFuMME19TQ= Received: from jidanni.org (1-170-82-107.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [1.170.82.107]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9273F10AFA5; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 03:52:49 -0700 (PDT) From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson References: <87r2odjova.fsf@jidanni.org> <87bmeoqs9n.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:51:25 +0800 Message-ID: <87vacslp3m.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) >>>>> "LI" =3D=3D Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: LI> =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes= : >> On some groups C-u RET asks >> How many articles from mail.debianbugs (available 656, default 200): >> but then says "No unread news". LI> With C-u RET 200 you're asking for the last 200 messages. Perhaps th= ey LI> don't exist any more? LI> Without the C-u you'll just get the ones that exist. LI> So I don't think this sounds like a bug. Fine. Now let's do this again with just C-u RET. How many articles from mail.debianbugs (available 663, default 200): RET And it only shows us one article, (which is marked (by me) "E"), and it s= ays No more unseen articles so... OK the prompt mentions 663 and 200, but should also mention 1, so we don't have such a big surprise when we hit RET. From unknown Sat Aug 16 19:17:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30895: C-u RET broken on some groups Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30895 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Cc: 30895@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 30895-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30895.152379315221934 (code B ref 30895); Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:53:02 +0000 Received: (at 30895) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2018 11:52:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53093 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7gCu-0005hi-3R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 07:52:32 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:34704) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7gCr-0005hV-Hh for 30895@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 07:52:30 -0400 Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7gCm-0006l0-Gw; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 13:52:26 +0200 Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f7gCc-0002lq-Hp; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 13:52:14 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87r2odjova.fsf@jidanni.org> <87bmeoqs9n.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87vacslp3m.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 13:52:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87vacslp3m.fsf@jidanni.org> ("=?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:51:25 +0800") Message-ID: <87sh7welg6.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > so... OK the prompt mentions 663 and 200, but should also mention 1, > so we don't have such a big surprise when we hit RET. That information isn't available to Gnus at this point. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Aug 16 19:17:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30895: C-u RET broken on some groups In-Reply-To: <87r2odjova.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30895 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 30895@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 30895-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30895.152379373423002 (code B ref 30895); Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:03:02 +0000 Received: (at 30895) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2018 12:02:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53110 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7gMH-0005yv-Uu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 08:02:14 -0400 Received: from homie.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208]:45438 helo=homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7gMF-0005yl-Le for 30895@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 08:02:12 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B561F10AFB5; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 05:02:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=hf4Bfz1HRTviWc9pFMTPmpota5k=; b=Egdj0gBQlJMvH csAU/TznOfEPoS8MXRYSrWMD0/ZuBXccT1fA9y9Aihv57GPhQ9/3PAxBxminbyDp phaCQu+gHy0eVGv0oCJ1MO/6f6TGCnZiFdqaE82/FNxiE+sPhslJ70JR/R5BJhtG 3LgRQr9PHoGv8IHQamSOOs0vTVvzNo= Received: from jidanni.org (1-170-82-107.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [1.170.82.107]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 709B610AFA5; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 05:02:10 -0700 (PDT) From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson References: <87r2odjova.fsf@jidanni.org> <87bmeoqs9n.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87vacslp3m.fsf@jidanni.org> <87sh7welg6.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 20:02:06 +0800 Message-ID: <87h8oclltt.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) >> so... OK the prompt mentions 663 and 200, but should also mention 1, >> so we don't have such a big surprise when we hit RET. LI> That information isn't available to Gnus at this point. OK but there are a few more numbers it knows, because I just saw them in the *Group* buffer...