From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:53:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30731: Slower startup using March (27.0.50) build in windows Resent-From: Shuguang Sun Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 16:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 30731 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 30731@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.152035322717153 (code B ref -1); Tue, 06 Mar 2018 16:21:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2018 16:20:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47895 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1etFKE-0004Sa-Ud for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2018 11:20:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43399) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1etFKD-0004SN-Hl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2018 11:20:26 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etFK6-0002U0-Vq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2018 11:20:20 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:42335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etFK6-0002Ti-Qm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2018 11:20:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34349) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etFK5-0003RX-DA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2018 11:20:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etFK4-0002SV-2m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2018 11:20:17 -0500 Received: from mail-qt0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22b]:41176) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etFK3-0002S6-Uf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2018 11:20:16 -0500 Received: by mail-qt0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id j4so25194986qth.8 for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2018 08:20:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=6OM/Nwmb+a/4Y9YWa0iNjyQMvvbSk1nrlWPcQvh0/8I=; b=Xo3JBi2O1uc57mzPM7JCUt9fhujGnN37lEld/fe59si/csoRBRuZ/poKA0kIQshSdU SObROjg31InG7tD+uzJbVRks5DXlOFcahcv8yJmS0LzNzcDa/+C1n/8fB2BEzIkbyFJr OFwIGxb93hlLjImwymSBTvKtUTMjTbRlnV85uCK3tWRQxFV0akfoDWSHEC64FFZVe4wH zxHXrG6LLhZ6JqaR4SLKkNF6uscXw+TqIoRCH3pmlh1a2cf3EWgSGKOTrZcGzLFH3ALu gjErnJSKWdp4P8hkmnHF7mDizrpnecJ82AvqRpPv9wtdBVou1ZfKwu9P4XSVjZ5PxBDL YelQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=6OM/Nwmb+a/4Y9YWa0iNjyQMvvbSk1nrlWPcQvh0/8I=; b=Vp97oISWSmld7zsmcqcQ+OFw2/FXqnj9/TURsFjblpbrGwPzYy0xBbgQH8035Aj7FH 31L9/ee66GNRf+v2j+ZSpHU7F0zEZNQKU6DUaSzqZ+7TuXWK+IUZNtYF8USmV4DcCpac ceIsS/1KiuJpqARRlxgm2ciu6zP5SbbNCF4wkY+iWEXETzXF6ZuYfUe0UyI515uZW/jB 82LLjayRW6Ut/80PCtZ13fPgYAWbajdvzjx/h8WVXVX6Ii/I28psAljiOTdCiTBJx5Qy PFtAWERyuCK2YMr2k17BvBpGMP6FJQ8pRU1sBEXZwhZrKkiAKK9Kd7yUVJyBmIMXDl00 Z1TA== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7H54vc/nsGn3N86C2oyzr9FF7w9vh5EAjh1qSna4ElQ4DfcXmta laFqm7VRk3m0jE+ScN47SK2+jRDtf7RgSkM245fp+Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELuKmlVmFdnO7GTXWL1JQT/MTW0bkSGSGADlxpoKJWF7ttAWthmtJiOjVOmddQIHhZlCIPfF9o24QGD6D97cuJU= X-Received: by 10.200.51.248 with SMTP id d53mr28546088qtb.338.1520353214632; Tue, 06 Mar 2018 08:20:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.237.47.196 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 08:20:14 -0800 (PST) From: Shuguang Sun Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 00:20:14 +0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114176924a96f60566c0d1b4" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) --001a114176924a96f60566c0d1b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I built emacs 27 on 4th March, however, the startup gets slower than the build on 4th Feb (which is camparable with the build in https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/). I'm sorry I don't know how to repeat it using "-q". System: Windows 7 The same .emacs file; Here is the message from 4th Feb build (GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 6, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2018-02-04): >>> start load .emacs: 0.140 sec <<< >>> before custom-set-variables : 0.359 sec <<< Loading image-file...done Loading time...done Loading completion...done Loading elec-pair...done Loading icomplete...done Loading ido...done Loading avoid...done Loading savehist...done Loading paren...done >>> custom-set-variables time: 2.248 sec <<< >>> frame-setting time: 2.263 sec <<< =E2=80=98epa-file=E2=80=99 already enabled epa-file loaded elpa initialized >>> elpa time: 4.464 sec <<< Below is the message from 4th March build. 1. It has a warning at the very begining. If start with -q, there will be no such warning. 2. Actually there is nothing before " >>> start load .emacs: 2.575 sec <<< ", however, it still takes 2.574 sec. 3. The load time is longer than the 4th Feb build. Symbol's value as variable is void: Info-default-directory-list [14 times] >>> start load .emacs: 2.575 sec <<< >>> before custom-set-variables : 2.903 sec <<< Loading image-file...done Loading time...done Loading completion...done Loading elec-pair...done Loading icomplete...done Loading ido...done Loading avoid...done Loading savehist...done Loading paren...done >>> custom-set-variables time: 8.333 sec <<< >>> frame-setting time: 8.333 sec <<< =E2=80=98epa-file=E2=80=99 already enabled epa-file loaded elpa initialized >>> elpa time: 9.394 sec <<< The value of Info-default-directory-list at the very begining is ("%emacs_dir%/share/info/"). --001a114176924a96f60566c0d1b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I built emacs 27 on 4th = March, however, the startup gets slower than the build on 4th Feb (which is= camparable with the build in https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/em= acs-27/).
I'm sorry I don't know how to repeat i= t using "-q".

System: Windows 7

The same .emacs file;

He= re is the message from 4th Feb build (GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 6, x86_64-w6= 4-mingw32) of 2018-02-04):
>>> start load .emacs: 0.140 sec <= ;<<
>>> before custom-set-variables : 0.359 sec <<&= lt;
Loading image-file...done
Loading time...done
Loading completi= on...done
Loading elec-pair...done
Loading icomplete...done
Loadin= g ido...done
Loading avoid...done
Loading savehist...done
Loading = paren...done
>>> custom-set-variables time: 2.248 sec <<&= lt;
>>> frame-setting time: 2.263 sec <<<
=E2=80=98= epa-file=E2=80=99 already enabled
epa-file loaded
elpa initialized>>> elpa time: 4.464 sec <<<

Below is = the message from 4th March build.
1. It has a warning at the very= begining. If start with -q, there will be no such warning.
2. Ac= tually there is nothing before " >>> start load .emacs: 2.575 sec <<< ", however, it still takes 2.574 sec.
3. The load time = is longer than the 4th Feb build.

Symbol's= value as variable is void: Info-default-directory-list [14 times]
>&= gt;> start load .emacs: 2.575 sec <<<
>>> before cu= stom-set-variables : 2.903 sec <<<
Loading image-file...doneLoading time...done
Loading completion...done
Loading elec-pair...do= ne
Loading icomplete...done
Loading ido...done
Loading avoid...don= e
Loading savehist...done
Loading paren...done
>>> custom= -set-variables time: 8.333 sec <<<
>>> frame-setting t= ime: 8.333 sec <<<
=E2=80=98epa-file=E2=80=99 already enabledepa-file loaded
elpa initialized
>>> elpa time: 9.394 sec = <<<

The value of Info-default-directo= ry-list at the very begining is ("%emacs_dir%/share/info/").
<= /div>
--001a114176924a96f60566c0d1b4-- From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:53:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30731: Slower startup using March (27.0.50) build in windows Resent-From: Noam Postavsky Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 01:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30731 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Shuguang Sun Cc: 30731@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 30731-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30731.15205593632142 (code B ref 30731); Fri, 09 Mar 2018 01:37:01 +0000 Received: (at 30731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Mar 2018 01:36:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51639 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eu6x1-0000YU-Lr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 20:36:03 -0500 Received: from mail-it0-f50.google.com ([209.85.214.50]:54947) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eu6x0-0000Y0-0A for 30731@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 20:36:02 -0500 Received: by mail-it0-f50.google.com with SMTP id c11so919359ith.4 for <30731@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 17:36:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=4eZn2mKyyIbv53BMpLz4GiqlZ41ltTp8FJ6KClJuF1Y=; b=E/3vMNpTnNgJQtNdNay8WMz6f1G/kcI35RnpWlgUnYiGGCeYezUrA3zOcoghoPj3PQ seiyYdPHYR5qOv5nnguXfaxBAw4wNnWIxmF419T6oJA94mxQzFoTfj+rj8sD5IoAWCcs jHIwjHT35J09VIwE5lEwtR4NwW5Q/vp3vf7DqzdnegemovV4/MyOBE7n5D+fClKgCK50 JYfcd1PvYNlaNJaUcppf3M53z9bZ23DCgk/gRKdZSxJ4Otr2HadzwzgRdcmhMKUlRd1M 14G3g1vmYZydcxQnQcTteX36BOuz8IlwxyjT1AE5E8WkFWJdQeqo2b3Jq2uU/tyDvMO3 B4+g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=4eZn2mKyyIbv53BMpLz4GiqlZ41ltTp8FJ6KClJuF1Y=; b=oYxNqo1kQYtk9BYoU1MLEa6wA1NGyWJTMhrhwgEadfQ6J4Yk8f6MRpo17OHqAL91GN ON2J8m8C7GpZGvit7pVYPQ9griAEt3FiUoKe/sgibxhOEHo04qKX5IZGWd9hKH3Tb7xx IQaicHCBHAP2FHWxzXl3LJIlerEP4TkBa3Of5PfI6BUo6cDMm9PG045iq50jMvdfz2CV rQPaFwJES6pVPhCwfECTWHIP/dKr7wjLcAQ8qQqFTuvdVY3kvKLM2RPNNASvRE561/xX SioM2a+1Bq2BNC2/OfvuetYSp05EnB2RHVHGRszKM5IyZmtlmrgrYdLCYqHiD8vMSurg o4WA== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7FMm6ABiP+By2vQLS8xLP3EgVIQlQGDITmFTT7alb2iLjtLYhYg XqhoX4116cIq/3o2d3N6sZfGxg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELsdIcoNKHq1HV5V/UI3g4CujhyQq7doOVFl2dkbhGzSTo7BXW6iOWqiemq1Uf5mKbUBcPCR+w== X-Received: by 2002:a24:544f:: with SMTP id t76-v6mr1219215ita.47.1520559356349; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 17:35:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebian (cbl-45-2-119-34.yyz.frontiernetworks.ca. [45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 202sm135974itu.8.2018.03.08.17.35.55 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 08 Mar 2018 17:35:55 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky References: Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2018 20:35:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Shuguang Sun's message of "Wed, 7 Mar 2018 00:20:14 +0800") Message-ID: <87a7vi1151.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Shuguang Sun writes: > I built emacs 27 on 4th March, however, the startup gets slower than > the build on 4th Feb (which is camparable with the build in https:// > alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/). > I'm sorry I don't know how to repeat it using "-q". > > System: Windows 7 > Below is the message from 4th March build. > 1. It has a warning at the very begining. If start with -q, there > will be no such warning. > 2. Actually there is nothing before " >>> start load .emacs: 2.575 > sec <<< ", however, it still takes 2.574 sec. > 3. The load time is longer than the 4th Feb build. > > Symbol's value as variable is void: Info-default-directory-list [14 > times] Could you try out the patch posted to emacs-devel? https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2018-03/msg00040.html From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:53:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30731: Slower startup using March (27.0.50) build in windows Resent-From: Shuguang Sun Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 03:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30731 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Noam Postavsky Cc: 30731@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 30731-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30731.152073872211818 (code B ref 30731); Sun, 11 Mar 2018 03:26:01 +0000 Received: (at 30731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2018 03:25:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54617 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eurbt-00034X-SH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2018 22:25:22 -0500 Received: from mail-qk0-f172.google.com ([209.85.220.172]:36225) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eurbr-00034K-JP for 30731@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Mar 2018 22:25:19 -0500 Received: by mail-qk0-f172.google.com with SMTP id d206so8003198qkb.3 for <30731@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 10 Mar 2018 19:25:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=CctLLzcdfbn+sKgW/bLSsecQiFuKyqVXms4x7x8PeIE=; b=jCHYBNPZ9Tgj5sCdNGNpx2lefZn+cr5tikxfeO3PxQ+/XMdpz1H9MAymG5z2H1yCa2 Zaeh2jVeTK0UpEdS5j4A89JeJ43TO98lE40WiKLjGMX3lPWAHDxDntwR++TJaTpI/flO uELTgz4N8/pC0HA36fPHpb+XKgtk31VAzuKyGncVr3waNGwIfcKg7ev3V30wXEEuAoH0 qOInzBoSbhwoS6A5Om1dca2rBIUxm34s+3lpIFDB3am6Vy+kvr3PguKLNHApEBWv/hFJ UAQ2p06aT94X6rQRWiFpaMaKLSBuT+Jf5sMJLu0SJJS8dDkYh76zChSk2NFbpT74oBiq mBCg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=CctLLzcdfbn+sKgW/bLSsecQiFuKyqVXms4x7x8PeIE=; b=p8xBGapKepzi9hok974nTMv0jBBDnt3U5Ffcsoqh+o0ReBgKif1vy9s3PVBdBFDAqq xfBe+Wpu7dbEbcj+rretBf4BfPXjuCEc3robvLJTGrgF0b5NkOScvr2RcQRPRUpJjgS9 oACEbWHkRND3pLc/uT+j3i8kGn74CsnKHhlnxbXHqfHYpafcheV1/hJ44lSqPNXXyA3i y6y3vxRUJFNqp+q+TWoR1C46NWJa3Vde2ZbxXcLLB3G+VOJcyeGJ91cwsdzLnqS5QoUi l7b47XlvByDNI6ZulcPpWb6bsx0GZ+pb+b1DvNdbgqbNU1O6m4dh9sg21O5subqPcbgI bwmQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7ESl2Rg0QQ/r4PaeMetWWenfaqhLmPmRgwy4mvnTdyh1t1JiVZ3 EJOwkNA4sevMlfDbnmP5C/5D4cjogCeHFERd5zQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELsXa4t/T+q7zgqKYa8r6kS4re3WkFQ9BYEbdxEzV++IJ30f6oFBnhp/GJz/66PWexFJ3ISUwo412VeFRHwsmu4= X-Received: by 10.55.167.143 with SMTP id q137mr5511251qke.27.1520738714104; Sat, 10 Mar 2018 19:25:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.237.47.196 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Mar 2018 19:25:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87a7vi1151.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87a7vi1151.fsf@gmail.com> From: Shuguang Sun Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 11:25:13 +0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114d8c86d9b7b705671a92ac" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) --001a114d8c86d9b7b705671a92ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I patched the startup.el and package.el in the installed emacs. They seems not work. I'll try to patch the git source prior to the complilation later when I get time. 1. Even I put the (setq package-enable-at-startup nil) in the top of the .emacs, it takes 3.692 sec before loading others of the init file. I have a site-start.el file, which is suposed to run before .emacs is loaded. Woud it impact the the load process? NB. the 3.692 does not count the site-start in. It is from (message ">>> start load .emacs: %.3f sec <<<" (float-time (time-subtract after-init-time before-init-time))) 2. No mather whether I set package-enable-at-startup, it takes about 8 sec to load the custom-set-variable. However, it takes only 2.5 sec in the Feb version. Symbol's value as variable is void: Info-default-directory-list [14 times] >>> start load .emacs: 3.692 sec <<< Loading Sun Shuguang=E2=80=99s .emacs file >>> before custom-set-variables : 4.176 sec <<< Loading image-file...done Loading time...done Loading completion...done Loading elec-pair...done Loading icomplete...done Loading ido...done Loading avoid...done Loading savehist...done Loading paren...done >>> custom-set-variables time: 12.387 sec <<< On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Noam Postavsky wrote: > Shuguang Sun writes: > > > I built emacs 27 on 4th March, however, the startup gets slower than > > the build on 4th Feb (which is camparable with the build in https:// > > alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/). > > I'm sorry I don't know how to repeat it using "-q". > > > > System: Windows 7 > > > Below is the message from 4th March build. > > 1. It has a warning at the very begining. If start with -q, there > > will be no such warning. > > 2. Actually there is nothing before " >>> start load .emacs: 2.575 > > sec <<< ", however, it still takes 2.574 sec. > > 3. The load time is longer than the 4th Feb build. > > > > Symbol's value as variable is void: Info-default-directory-list [14 > > times] > > Could you try out the patch posted to emacs-devel? > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2018-03/msg00040.html > --001a114d8c86d9b7b705671a92ac Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I patched the startup.el and package.el in the instal= led emacs. They seems not work. I'll try to patch the git source prior = to the complilation later when I get time.


1. Even I put the (setq package-enable-at-startup nil) in the top o= f the .emacs, it takes 3.692 sec before loading others of the init file. I = have a site-start.el file, which is suposed to run before .emacs is loaded.= Woud it impact the the load process? NB. the 3.692 does not count the site= -start in. It is from
(message ">>> start load= .emacs: %.3f sec <<<"
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 (float-time (time-subtract after-init-time before-init-time)))=

2. No mather whether I set package-enable-at-startup, it= takes about 8 sec to load the custom-set-variable. However, it takes only = 2.5 sec in the Feb version.

Symbol's value= as variable is void: Info-default-directory-list [14 times]
>>>= ; start load .emacs: 3.692 sec <<<
Loading Sun Shuguang=E2=80= =99s .emacs file
>>> before custom-set-variables : 4.176 sec &l= t;<<
Loading image-file...done
Loading time...done
Loading c= ompletion...done
Loading elec-pair...done
Loading icomplete...doneLoading ido...done
Loading avoid...done
Loading savehist...done
L= oading paren...done
>>> custom-set-variables time: 12.387 sec &= lt;<<


On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gm= ail.com> wrote:
Shuguang Su= n <shuguang@gmail.com> writ= es:

> I built emacs 27 on 4th March, however, the startup gets slower than > the build on 4th Feb (which is camparable with the build in https:// > alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/wi= ndows/emacs-27/).
> I'm sorry I don't know how to repeat it using "-q".<= br> >
> System: Windows 7

> Below is the message from 4th March build.
> 1. It has a warning at the very begining. If start with -q, there
> will be no such warning.
> 2. Actually there is nothing before " >>> start load .em= acs: 2.575
> sec <<< ", however, it still takes 2.574 sec.
> 3. The load time is longer than the 4th Feb build.
>
> Symbol's value as variable is void: Info-default-directory-list [1= 4
> times]

Could you try out the patch posted to emacs-devel?

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2018-03/msg00040.html

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However, I still don't get 1. What is an early init file? 2. Why custom-set-variable get slower? 3. If i want to disable package initialization prior to any thin in the .emacs, but after custom-set-variable and some environment variables setting (e.g. PATH, exec-path), how to do it? Could you help provide an example using my situation? 1) I use a Windows 7 box, and have HOME env variables, and .emacs.d folder under it 2) I have a site-start.el for environment variables setting (e.g. PATH, exec-path) <=3D I thinks this it not critical because it has no speed effe= ct after I delete the site-start.el 3) I have .emacs under HOME, and compile it to .emacs.elc to speed it up 4) I load dired.el and then custom-set-variable, then some frame settings , then initialize package using (setq package-enable-at-startup nil) (package-initialize) and then packages customizations (hooks etc) 5) I don't have default.el or init.el How could I adapt the change in package.el and startup.el? e.g. to disable package initialization at the very begining but start it at some point of the initialization of emacs. On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Shuguang Sun wrote: > I patched the startup.el and package.el in the installed emacs. They seem= s > not work. I'll try to patch the git source prior to the complilation late= r > when I get time. > > > 1. Even I put the (setq package-enable-at-startup nil) in the top of the > .emacs, it takes 3.692 sec before loading others of the init file. I have= a > site-start.el file, which is suposed to run before .emacs is loaded. Woud > it impact the the load process? NB. the 3.692 does not count the site-sta= rt > in. It is from > (message ">>> start load .emacs: %.3f sec <<<" > (float-time (time-subtract after-init-time > before-init-time))) > > 2. No mather whether I set package-enable-at-startup, it takes about 8 se= c > to load the custom-set-variable. However, it takes only 2.5 sec in the Fe= b > version. > > Symbol's value as variable is void: Info-default-directory-list [14 times= ] > >>> start load .emacs: 3.692 sec <<< > Loading Sun Shuguang=E2=80=99s .emacs file > >>> before custom-set-variables : 4.176 sec <<< > Loading image-file...done > Loading time...done > Loading completion...done > Loading elec-pair...done > Loading icomplete...done > Loading ido...done > Loading avoid...done > Loading savehist...done > Loading paren...done > >>> custom-set-variables time: 12.387 sec <<< > > > On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Noam Postavsky wrote= : > >> Shuguang Sun writes: >> >> > I built emacs 27 on 4th March, however, the startup gets slower than >> > the build on 4th Feb (which is camparable with the build in https:// >> > alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/). >> > I'm sorry I don't know how to repeat it using "-q". >> > >> > System: Windows 7 >> >> > Below is the message from 4th March build. >> > 1. It has a warning at the very begining. If start with -q, there >> > will be no such warning. >> > 2. Actually there is nothing before " >>> start load .emacs: 2.575 >> > sec <<< ", however, it still takes 2.574 sec. >> > 3. The load time is longer than the 4th Feb build. >> > >> > Symbol's value as variable is void: Info-default-directory-list [14 >> > times] >> >> Could you try out the patch posted to emacs-devel? >> >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2018-03/msg00040.html >> > > --001a11487d32d2e4020567264287 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Noam,

I read the disussions and patches, a= nd I find out the=20 3.692 sec at the beigining seems package initialization (according to the p= atch in Feb 17).
However, I still don't get
1. What= is an early init file?
2. Why=20 custom-set-variable=C2=A0 get slower?
3. If i want to disable package initialization prior = to any thin in the .emacs, but after=20 custom-set-variable and some environment variables setting (e.g. PATH, exec= -path), how to do it?

Could you help provide an ex= ample using my situation?
1) I use a Windows 7 box, and have HOME= env variables, and .emacs.d folder under it
2) I have a site-start.el for=20 environment variables setting (e.g. PATH, exec-path)=C2=A0 <=3D I thinks this it not critical because it has no speed effect after = I delete the site-start.el=20
3) I have .emacs under HOME, and compile it to .emacs.elc to= speed it up
4) I load dired.el and then=20 custom-set-variable, then some frame settings , then initialize package usi= ng
(setq package-enable-at-startup nil)
(package-initializ= e)
and then packages customizations (hooks etc)
5) = I don't have default.el or init.el
=C2=A0
How c= ould I adapt the change in package.el and startup.el? e.g. to disable packa= ge initialization at the very begining but start it at some point of the in= itialization of emacs.



On Sun,= Mar 11, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Shuguang Sun <shuguang@gmail.com> wrote:
I patched = the startup.el and package.el in the installed emacs. They seems not work. = I'll try to patch the git source prior to the complilation later when I= get time.


1. Even I put the (setq = package-enable-at-startup nil) in the top of the .emacs, it takes 3.692 sec= before loading others of the init file. I have a site-start.el file, which= is suposed to run before .emacs is loaded. Woud it impact the the load pro= cess? NB. the 3.692 does not count the site-start in. It is from
=
(message ">>> start load .emacs: %.3f sec <<<&q= uot;
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (float-time (time-su= btract after-init-time before-init-time)))

2. No mather w= hether I set package-enable-at-startup, it takes about 8 sec to load the cu= stom-set-variable. However, it takes only 2.5 sec in the Feb version.

Symbol's value as variable is = void: Info-default-directory-list [14 times]
>>> start l= oad .emacs: 3.692 sec <<<
Loading Sun Shuguang=E2=80=99s .emacs= file
>>> before custom-set-variables : 4.176 sec <<<<= br>Loading image-file...done
Loading time...done
Loading completion..= .done
Loading elec-pair...done
Loading icomplete...done
Loading id= o...done
Loading avoid...done
Loading savehist...done
Loading pare= n...done
>>> custom-set-variables time: 12.387 sec <<<=


On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:35 AM, = Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com> wrote:
Shuguang Sun <shuguang@gmail.com> writes:

> I built emacs 27 on 4th March, however, the startup gets slower than > the build on 4th Feb (which is camparable with the build in https:// > alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/wi= ndows/emacs-27/).
> I'm sorry I don't know how to repeat it using "-q".<= br> >
> System: Windows 7

> Below is the message from 4th March build.
> 1. It has a warning at the very begining. If start with -q, there
> will be no such warning.
> 2. Actually there is nothing before " >>> start load .em= acs: 2.575
> sec <<< ", however, it still takes 2.574 sec.
> 3. The load time is longer than the 4th Feb build.
>
> Symbol's value as variable is void: Info-default-directory-list [1= 4
> times]

Could you try out the patch posted to emacs-devel?

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2018-03/msg00040.html


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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q21sm2125980itb.2.2018.03.11.10.39.14 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 11 Mar 2018 10:39:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Noam Postavsky References: <87a7vi1151.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 13:39:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Shuguang Sun's message of "Mon, 12 Mar 2018 01:21:50 +0800") Message-ID: <87efkqzf40.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Shuguang Sun writes: > I read the disussions and patches, and I find out the 3.692 sec at > the beigining seems package initialization (according to the patch in > Feb 17). > However, I still don't get > 1. What is an early init file? It should be explained in `(emacs) Early Init File' and `(elisp) Init File'. > 2. Why custom-set-variable=C2=A0 get slower? Not sure, we need to see some more detail to find out. Can you figure out if it's all variables getting slower, or is there some specific variable setting that causes the slowdown? > 3. If i want to disable package initialization prior to any thin in > the .emacs, but after custom-set-variable and some environment > variables setting (e.g. PATH, exec-path), how to do it? > > Could you help provide an example using my situation? > 1) I use a Windows 7 box, and have HOME env variables, and .emacs.d > folder under it > 2) I have a site-start.el for environment variables setting (e.g. > PATH, exec-path)=C2=A0 <=3D I thinks this it not critical because it has = no > speed effect after I delete the site-start.el > 3) I have .emacs under HOME, and compile it to .emacs.elc to speed it > up > 4) I load dired.el and then custom-set-variable, then some frame > settings , then initialize package using > (setq package-enable-at-startup nil) > (package-initialize) The package-enable-at-startup setting should be moved to ~/.emacs.d/early-init.el. Possibly also the settings in site-start.el (since the early-init.el runs before site-start.el, as described in `(elisp) Startup Summary'). From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:53:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30731: Slower startup using March (27.0.50) build in windows Resent-From: Shuguang Sun Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 01:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30731 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Noam Postavsky Cc: 30731@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 30731-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30731.152081930629258 (code B ref 30731); Mon, 12 Mar 2018 01:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 30731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2018 01:48:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55895 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1evCZb-0007bn-Jv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2018 21:48:26 -0400 Received: from mail-qt0-f181.google.com ([209.85.216.181]:41898) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1evCZZ-0007bZ-Kj for 30731@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2018 21:48:22 -0400 Received: by mail-qt0-f181.google.com with SMTP id j4so17220616qth.8 for <30731@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 11 Mar 2018 18:48:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=sWjMIFpSV0JMk5LcXt14v9hFPh8EufEJ2g/LQC6GrJI=; b=rOqEhdwl6wcAOisLYVDKCtuCMkmg47G4j1oqAJX5YObqeNlfZTIueFNtBBGpB/grn4 aTfdKpou3j7N4tcfU3Z99qWJaedTtE9QtzTXbC2PdFA8JnotJtJnHWOZVyUWmZ6Ial2R usFjsnTcBBrbd54I51xHkW6MtIma9BdMXpp6tbrMDbPuvS2g67UK1UV/IkL82fHm7m00 RylIGSlgHr92QpTwYnFek8o1RhryYQ9NUQeJOpBh8054tTOvUnlZYrine+E9E2KCmOnn 05cXqe65PGlWoGAOQYcaLFN72Tie0xMeWMbJSEqezy76aplFQEMGMmaNXzElnRU4rZp6 REIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=sWjMIFpSV0JMk5LcXt14v9hFPh8EufEJ2g/LQC6GrJI=; b=EVXKYxPcL4ZVc/flaiE/vf1uptE/BIZptpzNZXHUe2B5FtZmCHcPaqAuw3tYqF0nZ2 Osh7zNGGOzLqW22z22vOefS4d9GIUd5Grc76UGLe3VcriEYulNiVU2DNBrV3m5qK0ZiA SFEU2ZS/gcyMRHEuEqwi3Z+Mec+Opz/Bpo8L4TLNLgrQL6mPsiCOkpp2h0TuvcH7f3UT n6vBwPcAdC27DPPk0o+PfiYwVc6aSCwTyWFGXd9Co/u5TdeW98b3doG6A5sgbRcfTr9L xj3EPHvpZu1x1qMpW3PdF2ClM0oMuyJ5HkYCso4RL4NudKUyHMXy4cUhcCibAmKJ1+cq 0o1g== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7GS6BRzyEtwb2+o3McHxXKrh2qaQf7EqZhELCMzNqvBZRebaGyt DNMi8KcyQe6ewYufYT1UAw4ZThlrIhM6NOnA7VA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELuusSzJ1UISW2MdfjqYiP3uT3CQGlbRbnF/uiCSN4OcqUZoZBebUJW9DMDz1oaCcyqFiwpMPWzplAMnSkR+q2s= X-Received: by 10.200.51.193 with SMTP id d1mr6905598qtb.338.1520819296235; Sun, 11 Mar 2018 18:48:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.237.47.196 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2018 18:48:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87efkqzf40.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87a7vi1151.fsf@gmail.com> <87efkqzf40.fsf@gmail.com> From: Shuguang Sun Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 09:48:15 +0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11453bcceb76ba05672d55b2" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --001a11453bcceb76ba05672d55b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Noam, Thank you for your patient explaination. I put the (setq package-enable-at-startup nil) in the early-init.el and the load time of .emacs is the same to the emacs Feb version. On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 1:39 AM, Noam Postavsky wrote: > Shuguang Sun writes: > > > I read the disussions and patches, and I find out the 3.692 sec at > > the beigining seems package initialization (according to the patch in > > Feb 17). > > However, I still don't get > > 1. What is an early init file? > > It should be explained in `(emacs) Early Init File' and `(elisp) Init > File'. > > > 2. Why custom-set-variable get slower? > > Not sure, we need to see some more detail to find out. Can you figure > out if it's all variables getting slower, or is there some specific > variable setting that causes the slowdown? > > > 3. If i want to disable package initialization prior to any thin in > > the .emacs, but after custom-set-variable and some environment > > variables setting (e.g. PATH, exec-path), how to do it? > > > > Could you help provide an example using my situation? > > 1) I use a Windows 7 box, and have HOME env variables, and .emacs.d > > folder under it > > 2) I have a site-start.el for environment variables setting (e.g. > > PATH, exec-path) <= I thinks this it not critical because it has no > > speed effect after I delete the site-start.el > > 3) I have .emacs under HOME, and compile it to .emacs.elc to speed it > > up > > 4) I load dired.el and then custom-set-variable, then some frame > > settings , then initialize package using > > (setq package-enable-at-startup nil) > > (package-initialize) > > The package-enable-at-startup setting should be moved to > ~/.emacs.d/early-init.el. > > Possibly also the settings in site-start.el (since the early-init.el > runs before site-start.el, as described in `(elisp) Startup Summary'). > > --001a11453bcceb76ba05672d55b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Noam,

Thank you for your = patient explaination. I put the (setq package-enable-at-startup nil) in the= early-init.el and the load time of .emacs is the same to the emacs Feb ver= sion.

O= n Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 1:39 AM, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
Shuguang= Sun <shuguang@gmail.com> w= rites:

> I read the disussions and patches, and I find out the 3.692 sec at
> the beigining seems package initialization (according to the patch in<= br> > Feb 17).
> However, I still don't get
> 1. What is an early init file?

It should be explained in `(emacs) Early Init File' and `(elisp)= Init
File'.

> 2. Why custom-set-variable=C2=A0 get slower?

Not sure, we need to see some more detail to find out.=C2=A0 Can you= figure
out if it's all variables getting slower, or is there some specific
variable setting that causes the slowdown?

> 3. If i want to disable package initialization prior to any thin in > the .emacs, but after custom-set-variable and some environment
> variables setting (e.g. PATH, exec-path), how to do it?
>
> Could you help provide an example using my situation?
> 1) I use a Windows 7 box, and have HOME env variables, and .emacs.d > folder under it
> 2) I have a site-start.el for environment variables setting (e.g.
> PATH, exec-path)=C2=A0 <=3D I thinks this it not critical because i= t has no
> speed effect after I delete the site-start.el
> 3) I have .emacs under HOME, and compile it to .emacs.elc to speed it<= br> > up
> 4) I load dired.el and then custom-set-variable, then some frame
> settings , then initialize package using
> (setq package-enable-at-startup nil)
> (package-initialize)

The package-enable-at-startup setting should be moved to
~/.emacs.d/early-init.el.

Possibly also the settings in site-start.el (since the early-init.el
runs before site-start.el, as described in `(elisp) Startup Summary').<= br>

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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id k141sm4111179ioe.13.2018.03.11.18.52.11 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 11 Mar 2018 18:52:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Noam Postavsky References: <87a7vi1151.fsf@gmail.com> <87efkqzf40.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 21:52:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Shuguang Sun's message of "Mon, 12 Mar 2018 09:48:15 +0800") Message-ID: <87woyixdpx.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Shuguang Sun writes: > Thank you for your patient explaination. I put the (setq > package-enable-at-startup nil) in the early-init.el and the load time > of .emacs is the same to the emacs Feb version. Oh, interesting. I guess the slowdown of the custom-set-variables must have been caused by autoloads getting triggered then? From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:53:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30731: Slower startup using March (27.0.50) build in windows Resent-From: Shuguang Sun Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 16:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30731 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Noam Postavsky Cc: 30731@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 30731-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30731.152087093616682 (code B ref 30731); Mon, 12 Mar 2018 16:09:02 +0000 Received: (at 30731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2018 16:08:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57425 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1evQ0O-0004L0-1N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 12:08:56 -0400 Received: from mail-qt0-f180.google.com ([209.85.216.180]:42039) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1evQ0L-0004Kl-TP for 30731@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 12:08:54 -0400 Received: by mail-qt0-f180.google.com with SMTP id t6so19379251qtn.9 for <30731@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 09:08:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=LWEu5eTb3Usk2j0C+tx0exEMafRA5B0vST4+GNLQUKI=; b=n+N1CGrrYbi8kjdhcm1Mxe1rlKDk0mm5R5RC7n7QrCCLWgLEdzHNCyDI3pdaT7M14o h13UtPQ7Two606MJKs48ddRIWmNcghvOge630HBIOTp19wcBK4ZfD2ntwvRUqCuM7lJD uqv895TMm0RDUzOmWLtIcSA0wl9sOlGatq3Wf3AwMhcL0ErYY589DWO2UMR6k04LgvK7 CiBaKFRySO6l3qQhB0FZbnVVgaldUzWeU0i3PcbwRDBKxpIL0TvI54WOXYIEvqQknujq VSeaZyDOY8bo4ZjNKMvmjQfmjXDVQA3XQtFAssisw5pRQFoH3UKJnxrzSCdLokKiRk89 R4hw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=LWEu5eTb3Usk2j0C+tx0exEMafRA5B0vST4+GNLQUKI=; b=Wwux99nkQeiZVDxudyRYxyj0HG7sULNUXKwsvdWBmeHDbUthE8JZeuAhnQUcP901nP 2Vo2YLkK7LBj7eBPHTpg04aVeCi6TX8flp/27q/D/daZZCV4eQnEpU8LjdX1L94HmRlO 1tW/fXY41v8lOt1eDBMryjyTcmVZeWUP5NrIVX+91QAK7nt7z+0Yo5VUGqvi7lKbG0hn kcaf34KEr/9Vag9yol3MhaoH6B3il3dhsSmj+N38XV4u5ProhTlSqa+vGr+ZvUnCS/RZ Ibm06eLhTPjleV9OgYS7ob/qCzfkQ5IdmSgvZ0gmI7gIFupnvaoKNzINb90ZLlgJczfQ mZWg== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7F628QOVRx0cO3UYUtSWHGmS9Nw1wz439Dj2iPYhFeAnC0ZsWGr +NL1MlJKA1Sx3041rboQCym7OjwU08kK8maBttY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELsB8LgtoppA+2rvKu9EpHr+URk27zMs682GH6u2mB2eIrB88qbA5+0ntBQH1vLebnAj2JB5hrpVraX33Un2qIU= X-Received: by 10.200.36.78 with SMTP id d14mr12286726qtd.329.1520870928351; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 09:08:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.237.47.196 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 09:08:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87woyixdpx.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87a7vi1151.fsf@gmail.com> <87efkqzf40.fsf@gmail.com> <87woyixdpx.fsf@gmail.com> From: Shuguang Sun Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 00:08:47 +0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113f3fea6f05a70567395b40" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) --001a113f3fea6f05a70567395b40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" FYI. If put (package-initialize) before custom-set-variables, >>> before custom-set-variables : 3.637 sec <<< Loading image-file...done Loading time...done Loading completion...done Loading elec-pair...done Loading icomplete...done Loading ido...done Loading avoid...done Loading savehist...done Loading paren...done >>> custom-set-variables time: 10.080 sec <<< Don't know whether autoloads being triggered. It is hard to test one by one. On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:52 AM, Noam Postavsky wrote: > Shuguang Sun writes: > > > Thank you for your patient explaination. I put the (setq > > package-enable-at-startup nil) in the early-init.el and the load time > > of .emacs is the same to the emacs Feb version. > > Oh, interesting. I guess the slowdown of the custom-set-variables must > have been caused by autoloads getting triggered then? > --001a113f3fea6f05a70567395b40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FYI. If put (package-initialize) before=20 custom-set-variables,
>>> before custom-set-variable= s : 3.637 sec <<<
Loading image-file...done
Loading time...d= one
Loading completion...done
Loading elec-pair...done
Loading ico= mplete...done
Loading ido...done
Loading avoid...done
Loading save= hist...done
Loading paren...done
>>> custom-set-variables ti= me: 10.080 sec <<<

Don't know whether autolo= ads being triggered. It is hard to test one by one.




On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:52 AM, Noam Postavsky <nposta= vs@gmail.com> wrote:
Shuguang Sun <shuguang@= gmail.com> writes:

> Thank you for your patient explaination. I put the (setq
> package-enable-at-startup nil) in the early-init.el and the load time<= br> > of .emacs is the same to the emacs Feb version.

Oh, interesting.=C2=A0 I guess the slowdown of the custom-set-variab= les must
have been caused by autoloads getting triggered then?

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If put (package-initialize) before custom-set-variables, >>>> before custom-set-variables : 3.637 sec <<< > Loading image-file...done > Loading time...done > Loading completion...done > Loading elec-pair...done > Loading icomplete...done > Loading ido...done > Loading avoid...done > Loading savehist...done > Loading paren...done >>>> custom-set-variables time: 10.080 sec <<< > > Don't know whether autoloads being triggered. It is hard to test one by one. Try ... (require 'trace) (trace-function 'do-after-load-evaluation) (custom-set-variables ...) (untrace-function 'do-after-load-evaluation) and see if there is a difference in the *trace-output* buffer when you call package-initialize first. Maybe also do (mapc #'require '(image-file time completion elec-pair ido avoid savehist paren)) to get the known loads (which I see listed in your output above) out of the way. 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One (package-earlyload) is to put package-initialize before custom-set-variables, another one (package-lateload) is to put package-initialize after then custom-set-variables. I attahed the diff of the trace-log. The trace-log from package-earlyload has less do-after-load-evaluation items which are supposed to be loaded during the package-initialize. However, it still takes longer time for custom-set-variables during early package initialization. The two items, mail-prsvr.elc and mm-util.elc are in earlyload but not in lateload. On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Noam Postavsky wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Shuguang Sun wrote: > > FYI. If put (package-initialize) before custom-set-variables, > >>>> before custom-set-variables : 3.637 sec <<< > > Loading image-file...done > > Loading time...done > > Loading completion...done > > Loading elec-pair...done > > Loading icomplete...done > > Loading ido...done > > Loading avoid...done > > Loading savehist...done > > Loading paren...done > >>>> custom-set-variables time: 10.080 sec <<< > > > > Don't know whether autoloads being triggered. It is hard to test one by > one. > > Try > > ... > (require 'trace) > (trace-function 'do-after-load-evaluation) > (custom-set-variables ...) > (untrace-function 'do-after-load-evaluation) > > and see if there is a difference in the *trace-output* buffer when you > call package-initialize first. > > Maybe also do (mapc #'require '(image-file time completion elec-pair > ido avoid savehist paren)) to get the known loads (which I see listed > in your output above) out of the way. > --001a11490396f7bc48056748cc43 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Noam,

Thanks for the tips= . One (package-earlyload) is to put package-initialize before custom-set-va= riables, another one (package-lateload) is to put=20 package-initialize after then custom-set-variables. I attahed the diff of = the trace-log.
The trace-log from=20 package-earlyload has less do-after-load-evaluation items which are suppose= d to be loaded during the=20 package-initialize. However, it still takes longer time for=20 custom-set-variables=C2=A0 during early package initialization.
The two item= s, mail-prsvr.elc and mm-util.elc are in earlyload but not in lateload.
=



On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Shuguang Sun <shuguang@gmail.com> wrote:
> FYI. If put (package-initialize) before custom-set-variables,
>>>> before custom-set-variables : 3.637 sec <<<
> Loading image-file...done
> Loading time...done
> Loading completion...done
> Loading elec-pair...done
> Loading icomplete...done
> Loading ido...done
> Loading avoid...done
> Loading savehist...done
> Loading paren...done
>>>> custom-set-variables time: 10.080 sec <<<
>
> Don't know whether autoloads being triggered. It is hard to test o= ne by one.

Try

...
(require 'trace)
(trace-function 'do-after-load-evaluation)
(custom-set-variables ...)
(untrace-function 'do-after-load-evaluation)

and see if there is a difference in the *trace-output* buffer when you
call package-initialize first.

Maybe also do (mapc #'require '(image-file time completion elec-pai= r
ido avoid savehist paren)) to get the known loads (which I see listed
in your output above) out of the way.

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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id r6sm720695ioe.85.2018.03.13.18.38.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:38:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Noam Postavsky References: <87a7vi1151.fsf@gmail.com> <87efkqzf40.fsf@gmail.com> <87woyixdpx.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 21:38:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Shuguang Sun's message of "Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:34:16 +0800") Message-ID: <87d107xwpp.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Shuguang Sun writes: > The trace-log from package-earlyload has less > do-after-load-evaluation items which are supposed to be loaded during > the package-initialize. However, it still takes longer time for > custom-set-variables=C2=A0 during early package initialization. > The two items, mail-prsvr.elc and mm-util.elc are in earlyload but > not in lateload. Hmm, somehow that was not so informative as I'd have hoped. Maybe measuring each setting individually would give more info, try this: (require 'pcase) (defmacro split-custom-set-variables (cset-form) (pcase cset-form (`(custom-set-variables . ,entries) `(progn ,@(mapcar (pcase-lambda (`(quote (,sym . ,args))) `(let ((t0 (current-time)) (tf nil)) (custom-set-variables (quote (,sym . ,args))) (setq tf (current-time)) (message "setting `%s': %.3fs" ',sym (float-time (time-subtract tf t0))))) entries))))) (split-custom-set-variables (custom-set-variables ...)) 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And I attached a list of packages I installed. On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 9:38 AM, Noam Postavsky wrote: > Shuguang Sun writes: > > > The trace-log from package-earlyload has less > > do-after-load-evaluation items which are supposed to be loaded during > > the package-initialize. However, it still takes longer time for > > custom-set-variables during early package initialization. > > The two items, mail-prsvr.elc and mm-util.elc are in earlyload but > > not in lateload. > > Hmm, somehow that was not so informative as I'd have hoped. Maybe > measuring each setting individually would give more info, try this: > > (require 'pcase) > > (defmacro split-custom-set-variables (cset-form) > (pcase cset-form > (`(custom-set-variables . ,entries) > `(progn > ,@(mapcar > (pcase-lambda (`(quote (,sym . ,args))) > `(let ((t0 (current-time)) > (tf nil)) > (custom-set-variables (quote (,sym . ,args))) > (setq tf (current-time)) > (message "setting `%s': %.3fs" ',sym > (float-time (time-subtract tf t0))))) > entries))))) > > (split-custom-set-variables > (custom-set-variables > ...)) > > --001a11487d32cf03ee05675848e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The diff files compares the loading time given package ini= tialized early or late. And I attached a list of packages I installed.
<= /div>

On Wed, Mar = 14, 2018 at 9:38 AM, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com> wr= ote:
Shuguang Sun <shuguang@gmail.com> writes:

> The trace-log from package-earlyload has less
> do-after-load-evaluation items which are supposed to be loaded during<= br> > the package-initialize. However, it still takes longer time for
> custom-set-variables=C2=A0 during early package initialization.
> The two items, mail-prsvr.elc and mm-util.elc are in earlyload but
> not in lateload.

Hmm, somehow that was not so informative as I'd have hoped.=C2= =A0 Maybe
measuring each setting individually would give more info, try this:

(require 'pcase)

(defmacro split-custom-set-variables (cset-form)
=C2=A0 (pcase cset-form
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (`(custom-set-variables . ,entries)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0`(progn
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ,@(mapcar
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(pcase-lambda (`(quote (,sym . ,ar= gs)))
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0`(let ((t0 (current-time))<= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (tf n= il))
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (custom-set-variabl= es (quote (,sym . ,args)))
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (setq tf (current-t= ime))
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (message "sett= ing `%s': %.3fs" ',sym
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(float-time (time-subtract tf t0)))))
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0entries)))))

(split-custom-set-variables
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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id n78sm190149ioe.65.2018.03.19.16.41.50 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 19 Mar 2018 16:41:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Noam Postavsky To: Shuguang Sun Subject: Re: bug#30731: Slower startup using March (27.0.50) build in windows References: <87a7vi1151.fsf@gmail.com> <87efkqzf40.fsf@gmail.com> <87woyixdpx.fsf@gmail.com> <87d107xwpp.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 19:41:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Shuguang Sun's message of "Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:02:39 +0800") Message-ID: <87in9rtyyp.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control Cc: 30731@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) forwarded 30731 https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2018-03/msg00040.html close 30731 quit Shuguang Sun writes: > The diff files compares the loading time given package initialized > early or late. And I attached a list of packages I installed. The variables which take longer seem to have custom setters; those don't activate when the library is not loaded. So basically, I think this difference is to be expected. Since the patches mention in https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2018-03/msg00040.html have now been merged, I think we can consider this bug resolved. [1: 2db57579b0]: 2018-03-19 10:44:40 +0200 Various follow-ups for early init file changes https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=2db57579b08ac99c464b6d3698648b3167fc5d55