From unknown Sat Sep 13 04:54:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30659: Only local map define-key examples Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 22:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 30659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 30659@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.15198578481025 (code B ref -1); Wed, 28 Feb 2018 22:45:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Feb 2018 22:44:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38038 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1erASF-0000GT-Vs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 17:44:08 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57852) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1erASE-0000Fs-DL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 17:44:06 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1erARL-0003PA-Rt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 17:43:13 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:46115) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1erARL-0003OH-IQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 17:43:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48186) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1erARJ-0005cf-8K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 17:43:11 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1erARF-000373-3o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 17:43:09 -0500 Received: from homie.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208]:57174 helo=homiemail-a60.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1erARE-000326-Kb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 17:43:04 -0500 Received: from homiemail-a60.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a60.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A7D282069 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 14:43:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=9ZJVEFvtLBHmJfDp+JLyExrr7yY=; b=I4RxuaWAz0ESye4B JM4eiXOXvKhKboJthbYp/kb5PhxSdiwW/QshpwZYuroH9y37hr4ABAFntNFoysLX aY8Tv0TwGebgO1h08cwmEyaZEnIf6fhKT0s8kK96xKGBXByVyu9YhXbdL54LM1Bq dROc/YA2X6Zo9FV8uO7CMAU6Q/M= Received: from jidanni.org (114-46-61-159.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.46.61.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a60.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA685282068 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2018 14:43:02 -0800 (PST) From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 04:13:16 +0800 Message-ID: <87po4o3mar.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) At the end of (info "(emacs) Init Rebinding") there is an example, (add-hook 'texinfo-mode-hook (lambda () (define-key texinfo-mode-map "\C-cp" 'backward-paragraph) (define-key texinfo-mode-map "\C-cn" 'forward-paragraph))) Please add to this example also an example of undefining an existing key. Else users will use local-unset-key that they find on (info "(emacs) Rebinding"), which may or may not be correct. If such example already exists, then please link it from this page. From unknown Sat Sep 13 04:54:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30659: Only local map define-key examples Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 15:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Cc: 30659@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 30659-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30659.151991859810280 (code B ref 30659); Thu, 01 Mar 2018 15:37:02 +0000 Received: (at 30659) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Mar 2018 15:36:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39469 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1erQG6-0002fk-Kr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2018 10:36:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:32773) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1erQG3-0002fW-1X for 30659@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2018 10:36:36 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1erQFu-0007Vv-TJ for 30659@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2018 10:36:30 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54862) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1erQFu-0007Vd-PF; Thu, 01 Mar 2018 10:36:26 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4677 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1erQFt-0003lq-Mh; Thu, 01 Mar 2018 10:36:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 17:36:36 +0200 Message-Id: <83efl3yfi3.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87po4o3mar.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <87po4o3mar.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson > > Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 04:13:16 +0800 > > At the end of (info "(emacs) Init Rebinding") > there is an example, > > (add-hook 'texinfo-mode-hook > (lambda () > (define-key texinfo-mode-map "\C-cp" > 'backward-paragraph) > (define-key texinfo-mode-map "\C-cn" > 'forward-paragraph))) > > > Please add to this example also an example of undefining an existing key. > Else users will use local-unset-key that they find on (info "(emacs) Rebinding"), > which may or may not be correct. I'm not sure I understand what's wrong with local-unset-key. (And "Rebinding" also mentions global-unset-key, btw.) From unknown Sat Sep 13 04:54:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30659: Only local map define-key examples In-Reply-To: <87po4o3mar.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2018 06:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 30659@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 30659-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30659.152005839525838 (code B ref 30659); Sat, 03 Mar 2018 06:27:02 +0000 Received: (at 30659) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Mar 2018 06:26:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41757 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1es0ct-0006ig-0o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 01:26:35 -0500 Received: from homie.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208]:53115 helo=homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1es0cq-0006iX-IC for 30659@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 01:26:33 -0500 Received: from homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990FB70406E; Fri, 2 Mar 2018 22:26:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=jidanni.org; bh=pCdy2DI/JD08jMg8SPA 5ZhkEj7o=; b=mnE+B3qlYbFQOlpZPKIkfoExogt8HuM7KDd2rXar+tlA0yfyjGs 8b31EKnoE1YStsKdF8G1bEmOzTv6w6yETkkDUeuDowLvLWaEBkC+W+56/5D22uce HMfoYzwoQv5/5fkhiYdoPGztptCWFwsjC9Te8XJfqaLhf/L21zC/2GSQ= Received: from jidanni.org (114-46-61-60.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.46.61.60]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FCA1704060; Fri, 2 Mar 2018 22:26:31 -0800 (PST) From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson References: <87po4o3mar.fsf@jidanni.org> <83efl3yfi3.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2018 14:26:27 +0800 Message-ID: <87zi3p8yjw.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) >>>>> "EZ" =3D=3D Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson >> >> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 04:13:16 +0800 >>=20 >> At the end of (info "(emacs) Init Rebinding") >> there is an example, >>=20 >> (add-hook 'texinfo-mode-hook >> (lambda () >> (define-key texinfo-mode-map "\C-cp" >> 'backward-paragraph) >> (define-key texinfo-mode-map "\C-cn" >> 'forward-paragraph))) >>=20 >>=20 >> Please add to this example also an example of undefining an existing k= ey. >> Else users will use local-unset-key that they find on (info "(emacs) R= ebinding"), >> which may or may not be correct. EZ> I'm not sure I understand what's wrong with local-unset-key. OK then please add it to the example there. Else they will look for "undefine-key". EZ> (And "Rebinding" also mentions global-unset-key, btw.) No it doesn't. https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Init-Rebinding.= html From unknown Sat Sep 13 04:54:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30659: Only local map define-key examples In-Reply-To: <87po4o3mar.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2018 06:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 30659@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 30659-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30659.152005854626086 (code B ref 30659); Sat, 03 Mar 2018 06:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 30659) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Mar 2018 06:29:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41761 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1es0fK-0006me-EM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 01:29:06 -0500 Received: from homie.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208]:49443 helo=homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1es0fJ-0006mY-RJ for 30659@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 01:29:06 -0500 Received: from homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2473970406E; Fri, 2 Mar 2018 22:29:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=8y4VkFthHnD1+KGd+4M1QEJA5UE=; b=Cs+KzRehPQ9LB aCvLkX0rEhOMiNZeX5hMo94EOqRmcvW6fGww8qlR4TuyYIC1VTaSd3lx5iz6B6rQ hzA1FWK9rjAw1Ld2i/Ryk1bocoXec5JIAesba7QSDZMsgPUO0L3LFMhvP/smhuWi Xo+Xccs+geifyh+n1pYukNFixw5U7I= Received: from jidanni.org (114-46-61-60.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.46.61.60]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DEF05704060; Fri, 2 Mar 2018 22:29:04 -0800 (PST) From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson References: <87po4o3mar.fsf@jidanni.org> <83efl3yfi3.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2018 14:29:01 +0800 Message-ID: <87vaed8yfm.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) C-, runs the command flyspell-goto-next-error It is bound to C-,. And is very hard to unbind in one's .emacs. It is a special case. From unknown Sat Sep 13 04:54:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30659: Only local map define-key examples Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2018 08:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Cc: 30659@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 30659-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30659.15200660905584 (code B ref 30659); Sat, 03 Mar 2018 08:35:02 +0000 Received: (at 30659) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Mar 2018 08:34:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41799 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1es2d0-0001S0-6W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 03:34:50 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41784) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1es2cx-0001Rn-W2 for 30659@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 03:34:48 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1es2cp-0002sD-QR for 30659@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 03:34:42 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47636) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1es2cp-0002s2-Ma; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 03:34:39 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4131 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1es2co-0003CP-W6; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 03:34:39 -0500 Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2018 10:34:54 +0200 Message-Id: <83r2p1v9ox.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87zi3p8yjw.fsf@jidanni.org> (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson on Sat, 03 Mar 2018 14:26:27 +0800) References: <87po4o3mar.fsf@jidanni.org> <83efl3yfi3.fsf@gnu.org> <87zi3p8yjw.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson > Cc: 30659@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2018 14:26:27 +0800 > > >> Please add to this example also an example of undefining an existing key. > >> Else users will use local-unset-key that they find on (info "(emacs) Rebinding"), > >> which may or may not be correct. > > EZ> I'm not sure I understand what's wrong with local-unset-key. > > OK then please add it to the example there. > Else they will look for "undefine-key". I don't see why they would look for undefine-key. > EZ> (And "Rebinding" also mentions global-unset-key, btw.) > No it doesn't. > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Init-Rebinding.html I said "Rebinding", not "Init Rebinding". From unknown Sat Sep 13 04:54:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30659: Only local map define-key examples Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2018 08:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Cc: 30659@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 30659-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30659.15200662155773 (code B ref 30659); Sat, 03 Mar 2018 08:37:02 +0000 Received: (at 30659) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Mar 2018 08:36:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41803 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1es2f1-0001V3-KD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 03:36:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42265) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1es2ez-0001Uq-3l for 30659@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 03:36:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1es2eq-0003gp-RB for 30659@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 03:36:47 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47666) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1es2eq-0003gd-NA; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 03:36:44 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4132 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1es2ep-0004X6-N9; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 03:36:44 -0500 Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2018 10:36:59 +0200 Message-Id: <83po4lv9lg.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87vaed8yfm.fsf@jidanni.org> (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson on Sat, 03 Mar 2018 14:29:01 +0800) References: <87po4o3mar.fsf@jidanni.org> <83efl3yfi3.fsf@gnu.org> <87vaed8yfm.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson > Cc: 30659@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2018 14:29:01 +0800 > > C-, runs the command flyspell-goto-next-error > It is bound to C-,. > > And is very hard to unbind in one's .emacs. > It is a special case. What is hard about unbinding it, and what makes it a special case? From unknown Sat Sep 13 04:54:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30659: Only local map define-key examples In-Reply-To: <87po4o3mar.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 20:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 30659@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 30659-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30659.152036960417237 (code B ref 30659); Tue, 06 Mar 2018 20:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 30659) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2018 20:53:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48073 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1etJaO-0004Tx-Ly for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2018 15:53:24 -0500 Received: from homie.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208]:40663 helo=homiemail-a3.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1etJaM-0004To-SA for 30659@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2018 15:53:23 -0500 Received: from homiemail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AA6284093; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 12:53:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=jidanni.org; bh=Qm5o9Wfc2P9Uc95Lnia QycY8Oj8=; b=ee3eXzGSfvcQ6J/gbUXyt3rOiVKOgcz8AgA0aOiuPN17iCTRH9D n75MvX8iSULDkk2AutxIpodzo5vif4IcnXVUxGxxsOd3H8f7oM3jG02JSVL+PeVH yn63oVXjDi0TPj/2S5XwDBiy0x/Vs0QcCCaOTpkAG0qzsOiy5CTMoSQ0= Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-17-253.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.41.17.253]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 868EC28408F; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 12:53:21 -0800 (PST) From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson References: <87po4o3mar.fsf@jidanni.org> <83efl3yfi3.fsf@gnu.org> <87vaed8yfm.fsf@jidanni.org> <83po4lv9lg.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 04:48:46 +0800 Message-ID: <87h8pt0w29.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) (info "(emacs) Init Examples") only has (global-unset-key "\C-x\C-v") example. (info "(emacs) Rebinding") mentions =E2=80=98M-x global-unset-key KEY=E2=80=99 Make KEY undefined in the global map. =E2=80=98M-x local-unset-key KEY=E2=80=99 Make KEY undefined locally (in the major mode now in effect). However they all lack proper local map .emacs undefine key examples. An undefine local key example needs to be wrapped in the proper hook, else, unlike a global undefine key example, it will not work. And, without such proper tested working example in the manual, I cannot proceed in unbinding local keys. Thank you. From unknown Sat Sep 13 04:54:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30659: Only local map define-key examples Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 20:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 30659@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Received: via spool by 30659-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30659.157108467015756 (code B ref 30659); Mon, 14 Oct 2019 20:25:01 +0000 Received: (at 30659) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Oct 2019 20:24:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41844 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iK6tK-000463-3m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2019 16:24:30 -0400 Received: from [80.91.231.51] (port=39300 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iK6tH-00045u-RC for 30659@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2019 16:24:28 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iK6tC-0003jj-3s; Mon, 14 Oct 2019 22:24:24 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87po4o3mar.fsf@jidanni.org> <83efl3yfi3.fsf@gnu.org> <87vaed8yfm.fsf@jidanni.org> <83po4lv9lg.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 22:24:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83po4lv9lg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 03 Mar 2018 10:36:59 +0200") Message-ID: <87zhi3ulca.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson >> Cc: 30659@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2018 14:29:01 +0800 >> >> C-, runs the command flyspell-goto-next-error >> It is bound to C-,. > [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson >> Cc: 30659@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2018 14:29:01 +0800 >> >> C-, runs the command flyspell-goto-next-error >> It is bound to C-,. > [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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If I understand the complaint correctly, Dan wants an example in the manual that says (add-hook 'texinfo-mode-hook (lambda () (local-unset-key "\C-cp"))) I think that's a pretty superfluous example (it seems the obvious thing to do), so I'm closing this bug report. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 14 16:24:34 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Oct 2019 20:24:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41847 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iK6tN-00046L-Ft for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2019 16:24:34 -0400 Received: from [80.91.231.51] (port=39318 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iK6tL-00046B-LO for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2019 16:24:32 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iK6tI-0003js-Rc for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2019 22:24:30 +0200 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 22:24:28 +0200 Message-Id: <87y2xnulc3.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #30659 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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