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26.0.91; Crash when traversing a `stream-of-directory-files'

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Message #41 received at 30626 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
To: Noam Postavsky <npostavs <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 30626 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#30626: 26.0.91;
 Crash when traversing a `stream-of-directory-files'
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 11:58:49 +0100

Noam Postavsky <npostavs <at> gmail.com> writes:

> >> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
> >> (seq-doseq (_ (stream-range 1 1000000)) nil)
> >> #+end_src
> >> 
> >> Note that this is executed as a loop due how to streams are
> >> implemented, although the definition of `seq-doseq' looks
> >> recursive.
>
> Doesn't look recursive to me, it expands to a call to seq-do, which uses
> a simple loop.

I was imprecise, I meant that the streams are defined recursively (most
of the time).  Though, it's a delayed type of recursion.  Anyway, I
think that this doesn't matter here.

> > Does anyone has a reasonable idea for avoiding the crash in such
> > programs?
>
> I don't have a quick answer for the general case, but I think it's a bug
> in stream.el that it's creating such large structures in the first
> place.  As far as I understand it, the point of streams is to handle
> long lists by encoding them as
>
>     (FIRST-VALUE . FUNCTION-TO-PRODUCE-REST-OF-LIST)

Yes, that's exactly how it's implemented.  When requesting more elements
from the stream, that becomes

      (FIRST-VALUE .
        (SECOND-VALUE . FUNCTION-TO-PRODUCE-MORE-REST-OF-LIST))

When we loop over the string, the cons whose car is the FIRST-VALUE,
let's call it cons1, is immediately thrown away, and we continue with

      (SECOND-VALUE . FUNCTION-TO-PRODUCE-MORE-REST-OF-LIST)

etc.

AFAIU the problem is that the cons1 still exists in memory until garbage
collection kicks in.  When that happens, the cons1 points to a largely
recursive cons structure, though this structure is never referenced from
Lisp in this form.
  
> so as to avoid allocating large amounts of memory.  Is there an easy way
> to find out what the large structures are, and where they are coming
> from?

I think I've answered that.  At least, I think so.  What I don't
understand is that when I force the `seq-doseq' to call
`garbace-collect' explicitly every 1000 cycles, or so, it doesn't help:
the crash still happens after generating ~ 70 000 elements, or some
more, but I can't avoid the crash, no matter how often I call gc.  So
I'm not sure whether these long lists are the problem or something else.
The FUNCTION-TO-PRODUCE-MORE-REST-OF-LIST looks harmless when I print
it, even after thousands of iterations, so I would not understand why
that could be problematic.  streams.el implements things in a way that
these rest functions are not deeply nested lambdas.


Michael.

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