From unknown Thu Aug 21 12:10:59 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30528: 26.0; Emacs manual, index entry `key rebinding, permanent' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 15:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 30528 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 30528@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.15190538417589 (code B ref -1); Mon, 19 Feb 2018 15:25:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2018 15:24:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51443 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ennIP-0001yH-Az for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:24:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34102) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ennIN-0001xz-HA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:24:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ennIH-0001gD-Bj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:23:54 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:46443) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ennIH-0001g5-7I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:23:53 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53297) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ennIF-0005Uk-PW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:23:53 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ennIB-0001dp-SL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:23:51 -0500 Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com ([141.146.126.78]:60416) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ennIB-0001dM-Ix for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:23:47 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w1JFLwDP108813 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 15:23:41 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2017-10-26; bh=DGaqqQb0c7Rkj/HP0PPjm/iuGxPvh2cYynpEZMHi87s=; b=czpojxKPPUxqIhAE+PnJv/bhl0iMD8X8DKOhIzoj28R7TTsVOtWSCOrbcTUKw8nlHXct 6x35+Uk/6xbnqBYuOlN3XiVQpKsghkpDqlwB1hZw/BzwCz6AOP3PJ+l8WNoYsHtrgfa4 In2wd6QtALlbAlptuMw4QGRgsov10T7vzdHRsxeWXEOBsYQ69vX9Tu7eK/JtMaFeQ3EY Eg5w5ChoQ+EG2z85lu7IY1ztUUx3crN9oTDDlppYJart+u1VzlyI1aVyk6qatiPxlShs RQSWq4n6AHMFA8u3dUAgvC+eZIJQPmh9jSPDOqaW/HKsy0lOvBQ7iS347GMC4zKOhX9/ XQ== Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2g80fj08f2-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 15:23:41 +0000 Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w1JFNcgh005160 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 15:23:40 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w1JFNbbZ007737 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 15:23:38 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <06e1b037-c85f-4e42-9477-509fe961ed30@default> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 07:23:37 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4654.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=8808 signatures=668674 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1711220000 definitions=main-1802190191 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) While checking the manual for index matches for "key" I stumbled across this entry. It leads to node `Init File'. The word "key" is not even mentioned in that node. Does the target node for this index entry need to be changed (updated)? Or does something need to be added to this node, to talk about putting custom key bindings in your init file and thus making them "permanent"? So far, someone looking for information about permanent key bindings and arriving at this node will need to do a certain amount of imagining or guessing, to figure out what the node has to do with permanent key bindings. In GNU Emacs 26.0.91 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2018-01-22 Repository revision: 752fba992b793a74d202c9cfc3e1a92fd458e748 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3'' From unknown Thu Aug 21 12:10:59 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Drew Adams Subject: bug#30528: closed (Re: bug#30528: 26.0; Emacs manual, index entry `key rebinding, permanent') Message-ID: References: <83606t9dso.fsf@gnu.org> <06e1b037-c85f-4e42-9477-509fe961ed30@default> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 30528 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 30528@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 15:54:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1519055643-10392-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1519055643-10392-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #30528: 26.0; Emacs manual, index entry `key rebinding, permanent' which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 30528@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 30528: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D30528 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1519055643-10392-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 30528-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2018 15:53:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51462 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ennkh-0002fz-Lg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:53:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41297) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ennkg-0002fj-Im for 30528-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:53:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ennkW-0006bf-9J for 30528-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:53:09 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33493) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ennkW-0006bX-5a; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:53:04 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2480 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ennkV-0003Xh-IZ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:53:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:53:11 +0200 Message-Id: <83606t9dso.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-reply-to: <06e1b037-c85f-4e42-9477-509fe961ed30@default> (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 19 Feb 2018 07:23:37 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: bug#30528: 26.0; Emacs manual, index entry `key rebinding, permanent' References: <06e1b037-c85f-4e42-9477-509fe961ed30@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30528-done Cc: 30528-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 07:23:37 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > > While checking the manual for index matches for "key" I stumbled across > this entry. It leads to node `Init File'. The word "key" is not even > mentioned in that node. Does the target node for this index entry need > to be changed (updated)? This index entry belongs to a different node. I moved it there. Thanks. ------------=_1519055643-10392-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2018 15:24:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51443 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ennIP-0001yH-Az for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:24:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34102) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ennIN-0001xz-HA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:24:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ennIH-0001gD-Bj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:23:54 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:46443) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ennIH-0001g5-7I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:23:53 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53297) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ennIF-0005Uk-PW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:23:53 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ennIB-0001dp-SL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:23:51 -0500 Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com ([141.146.126.78]:60416) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ennIB-0001dM-Ix for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:23:47 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w1JFLwDP108813 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 15:23:41 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2017-10-26; bh=DGaqqQb0c7Rkj/HP0PPjm/iuGxPvh2cYynpEZMHi87s=; b=czpojxKPPUxqIhAE+PnJv/bhl0iMD8X8DKOhIzoj28R7TTsVOtWSCOrbcTUKw8nlHXct 6x35+Uk/6xbnqBYuOlN3XiVQpKsghkpDqlwB1hZw/BzwCz6AOP3PJ+l8WNoYsHtrgfa4 In2wd6QtALlbAlptuMw4QGRgsov10T7vzdHRsxeWXEOBsYQ69vX9Tu7eK/JtMaFeQ3EY Eg5w5ChoQ+EG2z85lu7IY1ztUUx3crN9oTDDlppYJart+u1VzlyI1aVyk6qatiPxlShs RQSWq4n6AHMFA8u3dUAgvC+eZIJQPmh9jSPDOqaW/HKsy0lOvBQ7iS347GMC4zKOhX9/ XQ== Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2g80fj08f2-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 15:23:41 +0000 Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w1JFNcgh005160 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 15:23:40 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w1JFNbbZ007737 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 15:23:38 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <06e1b037-c85f-4e42-9477-509fe961ed30@default> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 07:23:37 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 26.0; Emacs manual, index entry `key rebinding, permanent' X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4654.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=8808 signatures=668674 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1711220000 definitions=main-1802190191 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) While checking the manual for index matches for "key" I stumbled across this entry. It leads to node `Init File'. The word "key" is not even mentioned in that node. Does the target node for this index entry need to be changed (updated)? Or does something need to be added to this node, to talk about putting custom key bindings in your init file and thus making them "permanent"? So far, someone looking for information about permanent key bindings and arriving at this node will need to do a certain amount of imagining or guessing, to figure out what the node has to do with permanent key bindings. In GNU Emacs 26.0.91 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2018-01-22 Repository revision: 752fba992b793a74d202c9cfc3e1a92fd458e748 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3'' ------------=_1519055643-10392-1--