From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 17 21:51:05 2018 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Feb 2018 02:51:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48832 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1enF4D-0007I1-LL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:51:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60002) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1enF4C-0007HY-W4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:51:05 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enF46-0006vO-To for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:50:59 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:58942) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enF46-0006vJ-Pu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:50:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50971) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enF45-00018J-Mv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:50:58 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enF41-0006uF-Qs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:50:57 -0500 Received: from homie.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208]:36600 helo=homiemail-a62.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enF41-0006tu-KA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 21:50:53 -0500 Received: from homiemail-a62.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a62.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C19634073 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 18:50:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=p5CCuunVPJnS6uTeJbS2WEITzso=; b=JTF8A2AoXNSBe0aA wwodjFHoxvgcue9IgDO+F+ESYL3XsZfsHxvcXzwr/dYmMRwgFo2yK3KqoDGzNDs3 3BLjFhkHFik+gkH1chTUvhY0GGZ1YgglXlPn2VscJNn4xhiBN8ptunQK2WQTx3Am EPlbsRngzhD/QUvaqdIUq/aLTXE= Received: from jidanni.org (36-234-69-247.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [36.234.69.247]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a62.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 40B4063406F for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 18:50:52 -0800 (PST) From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Be sure to let user know you have surreptitiously edited his .emacs file Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 10:50:49 +0800 Message-ID: <874lmfau46.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Today I just happened to have my eyes near the screen when starting emacs, and for half a second noticed Saving file /home/jidanni/.emacs... Wrote /home/jidanni/.emacs [2 times] flit by. That's odd, somebody else is editing my .emacs file. And inside it I found ;; Added by Package.el. This must come before configurations of ;; installed packages. Don't delete this line. If you don't want it, ;; just comment it out by adding a semicolon to the start of the line. ;; You may delete these explanatory comments. (package-initialize) How kind of it. However my .emacs file is under my personal revision control system, and you writing into it without letting me know will make my whole system crazy and only get overwritten later anyway. So be sure to say Alert: Holmes, we have edited your .emacs file. It is for your own good. [OK] I mean you already have enough places ~/.emacs.d/ ~/.emacs-custom.el where you write things for the user. Can you please notify him when you tamper with .emacs itself? Thanks. 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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q25sm20081094ioh.21.2018.02.17.19.00.55 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:00:55 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson Subject: Re: bug#30507: Be sure to let user know you have surreptitiously edited his .emacs file References: <874lmfau46.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 22:00:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: <874lmfau46.fsf@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Sun, 18 Feb 2018 10:50:49 +0800") Message-ID: <87tvuf57dl.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30507 Cc: 30507@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) severity 30507 wishlist close 30507 merge 30507 21858 quit =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > Today I just happened to have my eyes near the screen when starting [...] > Can you please notify him when you tamper with .emacs itself? Thanks. As it happens, today's master no longer does this writing. [1: 24acb31c04]: 2018-02-17 13:36:16 +0200 Add early init file, stop package-initialize insertion https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=3D24acb31c04b4048b= 85311d794e600ecd7ce60d3b From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:57:12 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator