From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:12:18 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#30223 <30223@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#30223 <30223@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 27.0.50; Arglist of advised but undefined functions missing Reply-To: bug#30223 <30223@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:12:18 +0000 retitle 30223 27.0.50; Arglist of advised but undefined functions missing reassign 30223 emacs submitter 30223 "Basil L. 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Contovounesios" To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.0.50; Arglist of advised but undefined functions missing Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 00:53:50 +0000 Message-ID: <874lndfl9d.fsf@tcd.ie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Steps to reproduce: 1. emacs -Q 2. (advice-add 'some-funbound-sym :override #'ignore) 3. C-h f some-funbound-sym RET This results in the *Help* buffer reporting: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- some-funbound-sym is . [Missing arglist. Please make a bug report.] Not documented. [back] --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- which I presume is at least partially due to (get 'some-funbound-sym 'function-documentation) => (advice--make-docstring 'some-funbound-sym) I wouldn't expect advised-but-undefined functions to have meaningful documentation, but IMO the suggestion to make a bug report is misleading, given that many users are likely to advise as-of-yet undefined functions in their user-init-file. -- Basil In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 25, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2018-01-22 built on thunk Repository revision: c42959cc206bcb52baffd45f892da1b767f0f8c1 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11905000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux testing (buster) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 17 16:17:03 2018 Received: (at 30223) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Apr 2018 20:17:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57945 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f8X2F-0000L5-Ef for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:17:03 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38432) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f8X2D-0000Ig-Dv for 30223@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:17:01 -0400 Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f8X2A-0005lW-H5; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:17:00 +0200 Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f8X24-0002gk-Ie; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:16:52 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" Subject: Re: bug#30223: 27.0.50; Arglist of advised but undefined functions missing References: <874lndfl9d.fsf@tcd.ie> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:16:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <874lndfl9d.fsf@tcd.ie> (Basil L. Contovounesios's message of "Tue, 23 Jan 2018 00:53:50 +0000") Message-ID: <87sh7th9l7.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30223 Cc: 30223@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) "Basil L. Contovounesios" writes: > Steps to reproduce: > > 1. emacs -Q > 2. (advice-add 'some-funbound-sym :override #'ignore) > 3. C-h f some-funbound-sym RET > > This results in the *Help* buffer reporting: > > some-funbound-sym is . > > [Missing arglist. Please make a bug report.] > > Not documented. > > [back] > > which I presume is at least partially due to > > (get 'some-funbound-sym 'function-documentation) > => (advice--make-docstring 'some-funbound-sym) > > I wouldn't expect advised-but-undefined functions to have meaningful > documentation, but IMO the suggestion to make a bug report is > misleading, given that many users are likely to advise as-of-yet > undefined functions in their user-init-file. Yeah, this sounds like something that can happen commonly and there shouldn't be a "make a bug report" here. And describe-function should just say that it's a function that's not defined, but that there's a advice for the symbol, I think? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 04 06:09:59 2021 Received: (at 30223) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Feb 2021 11:10:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39880 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l7cWN-0003wc-NE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 06:09:59 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:56400) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l7cWL-0003wJ-29 for 30223@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 06:09:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=WeKbtFVDYiYzljc/flrtSodYe+ayQ2/LmsGQmWzofC0=; b=sjP/9U31gOCA0/xO6IoP5M4TE6 BIVMf8yhIA0VQ35ic6YZc7xolUb3FqeRFT6VFX2sjFBWf363j/tPskA1dmJ7UJoqcmQqmtBGq3x60 1xixpmL9ar6bVWK5a5a9htU2yfe8atgFdVlRxn9hF/3arU/LvvAiCWFwFEfTmCbAp904=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l7cWC-0006I0-Dv; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 12:09:51 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Basil L. 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Contovounesios" writes: > I wouldn't expect advised-but-undefined functions to have meaningful > documentation, but IMO the suggestion to make a bug report is > misleading, given that many users are likely to advise as-of-ye [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30223 Cc: 30223@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) "Basil L. 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