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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) C-h f abbrev TAB You'll get completions for internal functions such as abbrev--describe. By default minibuffer completions shouldn't complete such internal names, as users aren't supposed to use them directly. In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 3, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.24) of 2018-01-22 built on localhost Repository revision: d0fd9809d7574c67a181225fcc1c59afdbb1295c Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11903000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. 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From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:16:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30206: 27.0.50; Minibuffer completion should not complete internal names Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30206 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Philipp Stephani , 30206@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 30206-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30206.151663393628137 (code B ref 30206); Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:13:01 +0000 Received: (at 30206) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2018 15:12:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38297 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eddlf-0007Jk-Py for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 10:12:15 -0500 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:42512) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eddlc-0007JW-LP for 30206@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 10:12:13 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w0MF73Ht093137; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:12:05 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2017-10-26; bh=owVkuTBkIYKPgA4NmU1vxUVL8Iqnvz6JyOizpKRCeEI=; b=pNBLunO64DHKYfoCt2d5J1aC4o0IgdRZyvL1ly8c7cT9vmhTPiOY1WUHOUW+P6g6waOw 17Nqp/92hDablvYPJ3dVjyj++llPFr/fXopqVPtQecYTwNjerFvTC0D0kfBWt2o1j2HS EU5qvW6ZgCl7/Lcz6rfryvlpXi2e4XqTUZrgh3v7JEZBTG5ciwNOMlSbOsPQiWvvqe9J c/wrt7GvT9g83XoM4zZYC22nkpXOj4c7wAz11485n49hEXZNt1my8oBSdWLMP8cMnxHV GYSptL7BDlrkj0LS8xcHkPNf/RTORPPVmZzchUWLB3eFkIR9u4HbYxTtIp563qT6qUQJ 2Q== Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2fnj9ng2gk-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:12:05 +0000 Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w0MFC4R0004572 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:12:05 GMT Received: from abhmp0003.oracle.com (abhmp0003.oracle.com [141.146.116.9]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w0MFC4gR019067; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:12:04 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <40b11f47-467b-4d86-98e4-84f119e4607e@default> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 07:12:04 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams References: In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4627.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=8781 signatures=668655 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1711220000 definitions=main-1801220214 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > C-h f abbrev TAB >=20 > You'll get completions for internal functions such as abbrev--describe. Of course. As well you should. > By default minibuffer completions shouldn't complete such internal > names, as users aren't supposed to use them directly. This is ridiculous, IMHO. Users are not supposed to use "internal" functions directly? Nonsense. Besides which, "use" is meaningless here. Completing a name doesn't imply calling the name as a function or evaluating it as a variable. And there is nothing wrong with doing either of things, anyway. Would you also forbid `mapatoms' from using (acting on) "internal" names? "Minibuffer completions" means multiple things, anyway. Anyone can use `completing-read' or any other minibuffer completion function in a way that does not complete "internal" names, if they want to. From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:16:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30206: 27.0.50; Minibuffer completion should not complete internal names Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30206 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Philipp Stephani Cc: 30206@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 30206-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30206.151663674032370 (code B ref 30206); Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 30206) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2018 15:59:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38326 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1edeUt-0008Q2-RU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 10:59:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49645) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1edeUq-0008Po-NV for 30206@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 10:58:56 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1edeUk-0000xg-SC for 30206@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 10:58:51 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38348) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1edeUk-0000xX-Oo; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 10:58:50 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3300 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1edeUk-0000M2-2N; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 10:58:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:58:38 +0200 Message-Id: <83fu6xrikx.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Philipp Stephani on Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:09:05 +0100) References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Philipp Stephani > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:09:05 +0100 > > C-h f abbrev TAB > > You'll get completions for internal functions such as abbrev--describe. > By default minibuffer completions shouldn't complete such internal > names, as users aren't supposed to use them directly. I disagree: "C-h f" is not only for users, it's also for developers. From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:16:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30206: 27.0.50; Minibuffer completion should not complete internal names Resent-From: charles@aurox.ch (Charles A. Roelli) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30206 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Philipp Stephani Cc: 30206@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 30206-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30206.151664869618136 (code B ref 30206); Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:19:02 +0000 Received: (at 30206) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2018 19:18:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38436 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1edhbk-0004iS-AE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 14:18:16 -0500 Received: from sinyavsky.aurox.ch ([37.35.109.145]:50939) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1edhbi-0004iC-K6 for 30206@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 14:18:15 -0500 Received: from sinyavsky.aurox.ch (sinyavsky.aurox.ch [127.0.0.1]) by sinyavsky.aurox.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8221C22659 for <30206@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: sinyavsky.aurox.ch (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) reason="pass (just generated, assumed good)" header.d=aurox.ch DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=aurox.ch; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:to:from:from:message-id :date:date; s=dkim; t=1516648193; x=1517512194; bh=qZWTzRDowD99U EV5lePRx+MEiQvKEDE4ynDYOXafNmY=; b=N2DGGXtXeXbMHTOZATiM1yQGLe0GK enuGo88QNWUULCsuimYH/N8uKNdkMCcxMeL6NKdfk4bDvESZiJC33R3RP4NZ6l/w kZNgpLPhVugORNQrkF2GWdQSyxBRDcOr+5MRj428qxyXxvFpEeFufv02Gg+13G6P +cDUxqnqKEp5xE= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at test.virtualizor.com Received: from sinyavsky.aurox.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by sinyavsky.aurox.ch (sinyavsky.aurox.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 3ROIe2PU5Zrn for <30206@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gray (125.85.192.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch [178.192.85.125]) by sinyavsky.aurox.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7539E22613; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 20:24:57 +0100 Message-Id: From: charles@aurox.ch (Charles A. Roelli) In-reply-to: (message from Philipp Stephani on Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:09:05 +0100) References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > From: Philipp Stephani > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:09:05 +0100 > > C-h f abbrev TAB > > You'll get completions for internal functions such as abbrev--describe. > By default minibuffer completions shouldn't complete such internal > names, as users aren't supposed to use them directly. How do you define "internal functions", and who says users can't use them? If that is indeed true, it should be written in big letters somewhere. See also Bug#29876, which is about clarifying the "internal function" idea. From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:16:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#30206: 27.0.50; Minibuffer completion should not complete internal names Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30206 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 30206@debbugs.gnu.org, Philipp Stephani Received: via spool by 30206-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30206.15239967742521 (code B ref 30206); Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:27:01 +0000 Received: (at 30206) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Apr 2018 20:26:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57960 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f8XB7-0000eb-T3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:26:14 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38539) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f8XB4-0000eM-DW for 30206@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:26:10 -0400 Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f8XB1-0000Wo-El; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:26:09 +0200 Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f8XAv-0002hC-Iy; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:26:01 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <83fu6xrikx.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:26:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83fu6xrikx.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:58:38 +0200") Message-ID: <87h8o9h95y.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Philipp Stephani >> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:09:05 +0100 >> >> C-h f abbrev TAB >> >> You'll get completions for internal functions such as abbrev--describe. >> By default minibuffer completions shouldn't complete such internal >> names, as users aren't supposed to use them directly. > > I disagree: "C-h f" is not only for users, it's also for developers. It seemed like everybody who chimed in didn't support the suggestion, so I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 17 16:26:16 2018 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Apr 2018 20:26:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57962 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f8XBA-0000el-5J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:26:16 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38545) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f8XB6-0000eT-Fq for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:26:13 -0400 Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f8XB4-0000Xh-A6 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:26:11 +0200 Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f8XAy-0002hF-F4 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:26:04 +0200 To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #30206 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:26:04 +0200 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 30206 wontfix close 30206