From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:14:28 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#30088 <30088@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#30088 <30088@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Rendering glitch with double buffering enabled Reply-To: bug#30088 <30088@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 19:14:28 +0000 retitle 30088 Rendering glitch with double buffering enabled reassign 30088 emacs submitter 30088 Damien Cassou severity 30088 normal tag 30088 moreinfo thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 12 11:18:37 2018 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2018 16:18:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54011 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ea22M-0001xD-S0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:18:37 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48647) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ea22K-0001wz-Pt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:18:33 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ea22C-00073s-J2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:18:27 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:36588) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ea22C-00073J-CA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:18:24 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39541) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ea227-0003NU-TM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:18:24 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ea224-0006uZ-J4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:18:19 -0500 Received: from mail.choca.pics ([62.210.108.126]:60936) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ea223-0006iG-Vr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:18:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [IPv6:::1]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D432329D2E for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:17:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.choca.pics ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mail.choca.pics [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id Yg_KMhFnmof4 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:17:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [IPv6:::1]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D412329D30 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:17:51 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 mail.choca.pics B0D412329D30 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cassou.me; s=9EA44F5C-DEF4-11E6-A83F-A08DF322D8FB; t=1515773871; bh=TGQ2BYhI/DxbIVjCrrwwtVYhnU7Ph0pwy7ORzmry2pY=; h=From:To:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version; b=bFtDzroaxKUTFgVxYRl6d0mypyesFkx4QWMKu+he3IUmbrpm0bgD2+5U5DNVWCafZ aa/MCetNqLpUi584oROHYGD1LTSrIoOa9a307oPOdh7nm9iyChTWxqbbvCfijrYqJu cM9L2bL/P4bysihBLVr6AAbyKg28ycjSzsV8JygJspRshaN9yKq095lqh3pRUrtxBr sNiOI/zDJNIuhBPq7W2a9gyoIcic5vbzOhuLCL/apdsP14hPMElGV6kX5yWXP0Dpki BpI/LzsXl0jgBBOK+ZBA7vve23wW5/gqOqlUS+8LECMNAf9NsqTS9y4gwdOZ4mQimM ZOsHCkszJkQTA== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at choca.pics Received: from mail.choca.pics ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mail.choca.pics [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 24lTlH70H-Gv for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:17:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from luz4 (20-44-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr [109.190.44.20]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 248912329D2E for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:17:50 +0100 (CET) From: Damien Cassou To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 26.0.90; [Emacs 26] Rendering glitch Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:17:43 +0100 Message-ID: <87inc7gifs.fsf@cassou.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Please see attached screenshot. I regularly get that kind of glitches in all kinds of buffers. I didn't try to reproduce with Emacs -Q. In GNU Emacs 26.0.90 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.26) of 2018-01-08 built on luz4 Repository revision: 918a052a422c05b5f78fd7c702eb6e3ee189fa18 Windowing system distributor 'Fedora Project', version 11.0.11906000 System Description: Fedora release 27 (Twenty Seven) Recent messages: Quit Mark set [2 times] Quit Mark set [15 times] Quit Mark set [4 times] Quit [2 times] Mark set Quit C-x C-g is undefined Quit [5 times] Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 LCMS2 Important settings: value of $LC_MONETARY: fr_FR.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: fr_FR.UTF-8 value of $LC_TIME: fr_FR.UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Playlist Minor modes in effect: shell-switcher-mode: t firestarter-mode: t editorconfig-mode: t global-subword-mode: t subword-mode: t 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12, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > Please see attached screenshot. I regularly get that kind of glitches in > all kinds of buffers. I didn't try to reproduce with Emacs -Q. Does disabling double buffering help? It looks similar to what's described in Bug#29416. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 15 03:49:56 2018 Received: (at 30088) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2018 08:49:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56649 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eb0Sq-0004cE-Ec for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 03:49:56 -0500 Received: from mail.choca.pics ([62.210.108.126]:46776) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eb0So-0004c5-2W for 30088@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 03:49:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [IPv6:::1]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE000232A738; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 09:49:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.choca.pics ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mail.choca.pics [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id XQjUdj_Q4AFx; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 09:49:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [IPv6:::1]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EBF232A751; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 09:49:51 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 mail.choca.pics B3EBF232A751 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cassou.me; s=9EA44F5C-DEF4-11E6-A83F-A08DF322D8FB; t=1516006191; bh=4T2q5SHGOSUJdh9SR0rGKilo0wGVkgRPm9ml8DRzYvQ=; h=From:To:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version; b=Aq6YSGpOcSHZu2KZk1sTiZE9TIe+tuzOr55ThLZPt4bxpurzuALmHua7ays24wNIz w/3FFvgaURvgbVIVIVnDIw/294jRO9p871adQnZF4x74+ukgOfZ5XJ9PjyZEaH2kTi To6zyGhpBt/aUXtICACVk/78aYHdqYso7DKZeJSRp+AcloFdddDUMKdlJnRkqghKsp BHMguJOBP5Pl6Hwm8KuwyO5MgMwwC1UU4nwuCHc3ns1SZyMOSlTnA845s34WLxaxEr UGxh6/dypE/15IgdUT3HcN7+dm26buvw1vnKDOP4roTD+FNbckBqjik4UICQFrL4le DcPTpUiGd1gew== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at choca.pics Received: from mail.choca.pics ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mail.choca.pics [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id JDcjEaWuP4ad; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 09:49:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from luz4 (20-44-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr [109.190.44.20]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 58CE0232A738; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 09:49:51 +0100 (CET) From: Damien Cassou To: Noam Postavsky Subject: Re: bug#30088: 26.0.90; [Emacs 26] Rendering glitch In-Reply-To: References: <87inc7gifs.fsf@cassou.me> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 09:49:47 +0100 Message-ID: <87lggzecb8.fsf@cassou.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30088 Cc: 30088@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Noam Postavsky writes: > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: >> Please see attached screenshot. I regularly get that kind of glitches in >> all kinds of buffers. I didn't try to reproduce with Emacs -Q. > > Does disabling double buffering help? It looks similar to what's > described in Bug#29416. Thanks for your answer. I have changed my WM and am waiting for the problem to reappear before trying your workaround. Best -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 24 14:53:04 2018 Received: (at 30088) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2018 19:53:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41308 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eeR6W-0000lW-8u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 14:53:04 -0500 Received: from sinyavsky.aurox.ch ([37.35.109.145]:51975) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eeR6U-0000l1-Em for 30088@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 14:53:03 -0500 Received: from sinyavsky.aurox.ch (sinyavsky.aurox.ch [127.0.0.1]) by sinyavsky.aurox.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C3C2265A for <30088@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 19:44:41 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: sinyavsky.aurox.ch (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) reason="pass (just generated, assumed good)" header.d=aurox.ch DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=aurox.ch; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:to:from:from:message-id :date:date; s=dkim; t=1516823080; x=1517687081; bh=dzJ/UJ/nCYtQq 4ocUw3FthfRyQ2lP4D0TFz5TLMVu8k=; b=h1UZLt6r/W5BkbmH54g53aBoVif2C nRbdUNFZexePrl/0yhRs7s7gpFYcLADMajDe8VrHV2CibccFpFJbDU3tuLTczgtt 3JdTqvp83AiiIBhNLwjNVWTGLqxjVhxk1BNNM0HubORzvNXnCi8f89GonRk+SnTS YtWPBs/UPka22s= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at test.virtualizor.com Received: from sinyavsky.aurox.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by sinyavsky.aurox.ch (sinyavsky.aurox.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Y6XjLK_OjNj7 for <30088@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 19:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gray (125.85.192.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch [178.192.85.125]) by sinyavsky.aurox.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 354F222613; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 19:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 20:59:58 +0100 Message-Id: From: charles@aurox.ch (Charles A. Roelli) To: Damien Cassou In-reply-to: <87lggzecb8.fsf@cassou.me> (message from Damien Cassou on Mon, 15 Jan 2018 09:49:47 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#30088: 26.0.90; [Emacs 26] Rendering glitch References: <87inc7gifs.fsf@cassou.me> <87lggzecb8.fsf@cassou.me> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30088 Cc: 30088@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > From: Damien Cassou > Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 09:49:47 +0100 > > Noam Postavsky writes: > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > >> Please see attached screenshot. I regularly get that kind of glitches in > >> all kinds of buffers. I didn't try to reproduce with Emacs -Q. > > > > Does disabling double buffering help? It looks similar to what's > > described in Bug#29416. > > Thanks for your answer. I have changed my WM and am waiting for the > problem to reappear before trying your workaround. Any news on this? Could you please try the recipe in Bug#29416 to see if you have the same problem? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 24 15:10:13 2018 Received: (at 30088) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2018 20:10:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41343 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eeRN7-0001BB-Fg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 15:10:13 -0500 Received: from mail.choca.pics ([62.210.108.126]:43346) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eeRN5-0001B2-PS for 30088@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 15:10:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [IPv6:::1]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8592F232C957; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 21:10:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.choca.pics ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mail.choca.pics [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id Joaojgl_qVdN; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 21:10:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [IPv6:::1]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25E6232C972; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 21:10:07 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 mail.choca.pics E25E6232C972 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cassou.me; s=9EA44F5C-DEF4-11E6-A83F-A08DF322D8FB; t=1516824607; bh=lR1wdhOdDkf9kyjcDW4l/N+NOOSX4+LTSJZrH72fXeo=; h=From:To:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version; b=NSLWZOT7sXnV/9jeCwg9UeGNRJu3DRLJVbmvr/SPkVx9hbFzixiSKj771VaT8mhYc 3pnbEk+pmH4k5JhAItu75HHisK1e05oaRGw8eobOsHmnNU0BmWDMaDTJgaVmlmWysJ ahqrA+K4OSaNlnkGd+bp9v8omo+1bzzR1n4oOFTecpI3WOX2N3Q4C0lNiXyXSjupnc m4mIkHU8aXfdQUqVGGpGL2K3nuq7v/R1a0urNgvW5AzhK0fbDXvrNy9tTwRd44DnhV FYz0QaI9C+toEw46AYOA8od2P8iA1ey7IXAmotgISIaof/qHO+Jr14rMWwX2SwkQkk 6/smnwS10jkWw== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at choca.pics Received: from mail.choca.pics ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mail.choca.pics [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id P0wcMUEJr2Cg; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 21:10:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from luz4 (unknown [IPv6:2a00:5884:8368:0:981a:1b8d:5415:a323]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 72482232C957; Wed, 24 Jan 2018 21:10:07 +0100 (CET) From: Damien Cassou To: "Charles A. Roelli" Subject: Re: bug#30088: 26.0.90; [Emacs 26] Rendering glitch In-Reply-To: References: <87inc7gifs.fsf@cassou.me> <87lggzecb8.fsf@cassou.me> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 21:10:03 +0100 Message-ID: <87inbr10is.fsf@cassou.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30088 Cc: 30088@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Charles A. Roelli" writes: > Any news on this? Could you please try the recipe in Bug#29416 to see > if you have the same problem? I have inhibit-double-buffering set to t for some time and haven't witnessed the problem again. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 26 07:33:29 2018 Received: (at 30088) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2018 12:33:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43149 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ef3CC-00025m-SX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 07:33:29 -0500 Received: from mail.choca.pics ([62.210.108.126]:43194) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ef3CA-00025d-I8 for 30088@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 07:33:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [IPv6:::1]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866A8232D24A; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:33:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.choca.pics ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mail.choca.pics [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id DSdfc-T1nn6g; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:33:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [IPv6:::1]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB36B232D24B; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:33:24 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 mail.choca.pics AB36B232D24B DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cassou.me; s=9EA44F5C-DEF4-11E6-A83F-A08DF322D8FB; t=1516970004; bh=F/AstUwf6kdUYDslfioXuVbsrRDkceNtugk1Co45uvQ=; h=From:To:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version; b=GkD/JKa36mTeoJPFKJifOZR80Gu1a1K7vjCfE7ipOsZQ3Gy/XYe1YaeqngznmqPzF zBDeBfEmGLuQyMjzYpF3OyQiOQKvsgY3MZVypcquBWj4Rwk0ijzW0gOzTIqh5/AQlV atJUD7k3EeV0tbbcGfrCiyTO8rt78Ag1VFKp5ABqhenMiqiM+9X2/o1hBMawOnhn2/ xLc6y+pUMiNiZavG525sCy64cJJqG0ZqEI4rZzxTdZIEhZwQo/sTBwoNOrq2/YuC63 HMgtEAPgfxnoXTjh6fs/eR3Ytw3/1ZjITlF3wx0J5S+5ridoNmf11oOGLyNwEyrE+O MjyF5iPpwUktg== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at choca.pics Received: from mail.choca.pics ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mail.choca.pics [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id YCgwj2tGgUCb; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:33:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from luz4 (20-44-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr [109.190.44.20]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 513B9232D24A; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:33:24 +0100 (CET) From: Damien Cassou To: "Charles A. Roelli" Subject: Re: bug#30088: 26.0.90; [Emacs 26] Rendering glitch In-Reply-To: <87inbr10is.fsf@cassou.me> References: <87inc7gifs.fsf@cassou.me> <87lggzecb8.fsf@cassou.me> <87inbr10is.fsf@cassou.me> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:33:20 +0100 Message-ID: <87r2qcby0f.fsf@cassou.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30088 Cc: 30088@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Damien Cassou writes: > I have inhibit-double-buffering set to t for some time and haven't > witnessed the problem again. I set the variable's value back to its default and rapidly got the problem. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 26 07:47:21 2018 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2018 12:47:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43157 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ef3Pb-0002Pd-Jh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 07:47:21 -0500 Received: from mail-it0-f44.google.com ([209.85.214.44]:55732) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ef3PZ-0002PR-T2 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 07:47:18 -0500 Received: by mail-it0-f44.google.com with SMTP id c16so437144itc.5 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 04:47:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; 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Roelli) To: Damien Cassou In-reply-to: <87r2qcby0f.fsf@cassou.me> (message from Damien Cassou on Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:33:20 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#30088: 26.0.90; [Emacs 26] Rendering glitch References: <87inc7gifs.fsf@cassou.me> <87lggzecb8.fsf@cassou.me> <87inbr10is.fsf@cassou.me> <87r2qcby0f.fsf@cassou.me> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30088 Cc: 30088@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > From: Damien Cassou > Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 30088@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:33:20 +0100 > > Damien Cassou writes: > > I have inhibit-double-buffering set to t for some time and haven't > > witnessed the problem again. > > I set the variable's value back to its default and rapidly got the > problem. Thanks for checking. Maybe it would be worth mentioning this problem in etc/PROBLEMS on the emacs-26 branch. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 26 15:03:21 2018 Received: (at 30088) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2018 20:03:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44075 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efADZ-0002vL-C3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 15:03:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58768) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efADX-0002v8-Vc for 30088@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 15:03:20 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efADP-0004vR-Lm for 30088@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 15:03:14 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39760) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efADI-0004nZ-7a; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 15:03:04 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1781 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1efADH-0001vN-P3; Fri, 26 Jan 2018 15:03:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 22:03:03 +0200 Message-Id: <83y3kkjslk.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: charles@aurox.ch (Charles A. Roelli) In-reply-to: (charles@aurox.ch) Subject: Re: bug#30088: 26.0.90; [Emacs 26] Rendering glitch References: <87inc7gifs.fsf@cassou.me> <87lggzecb8.fsf@cassou.me> <87inbr10is.fsf@cassou.me> <87r2qcby0f.fsf@cassou.me> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30088 Cc: damien@cassou.me, 30088@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 20:38:40 +0100 > From: charles@aurox.ch (Charles A. Roelli) > Cc: 30088@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net > > > I set the variable's value back to its default and rapidly got the > > problem. > > Thanks for checking. Maybe it would be worth mentioning this problem > in etc/PROBLEMS on the emacs-26 branch. Suggestions for such an entry in PROBLEMS are welcome. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 27 09:02:17 2018 Received: (at 30088) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2018 14:02:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44492 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efR3h-00033q-Jf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 09:02:17 -0500 Received: from sinyavsky.aurox.ch ([37.35.109.145]:53611) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efR3f-00033Z-Ji for 30088@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 09:02:16 -0500 Received: from sinyavsky.aurox.ch (sinyavsky.aurox.ch [127.0.0.1]) by sinyavsky.aurox.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC7222663 for <30088@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 13:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: sinyavsky.aurox.ch (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) reason="pass (just generated, assumed good)" header.d=aurox.ch DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=aurox.ch; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:to:from:from:message-id :date:date; s=dkim; t=1517061230; x=1517925231; bh=b8ip5wK2shETz wm9pStbkEZ4g1rspJWIwUJx8UrBaN0=; b=scDUjdmJiG99fXnTJskkMj17Ni20w xVS4+k19qz7WG0P/xjfWRLMlMCUgPhBVmm4WR/zdIn+T3MvZz3SL3ZiuAFZfjbOK l9R1tHC3xTNqoRofdOG+bGqvPCwS/XPUjzZoaF6QK7jkeJJ+GrcwE7zieb61Nzkp adaylrBzWljVQ8= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at test.virtualizor.com Received: from sinyavsky.aurox.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by sinyavsky.aurox.ch (sinyavsky.aurox.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id d1982E_f0Dyq for <30088@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 13:53:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gray (125.85.192.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch [178.192.85.125]) by sinyavsky.aurox.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2EC3422649; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 13:53:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 15:09:26 +0100 Message-Id: From: charles@aurox.ch (Charles A. Roelli) To: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <83y3kkjslk.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 26 Jan 2018 22:03:03 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#30088: 26.0.90; [Emacs 26] Rendering glitch References: <87inc7gifs.fsf@cassou.me> <87lggzecb8.fsf@cassou.me> <87inbr10is.fsf@cassou.me> <87r2qcby0f.fsf@cassou.me> <83y3kkjslk.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30088 Cc: damien@cassou.me, 30088@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 22:03:03 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > > Suggestions for such an entry in PROBLEMS are welcome. How about: diff --git a/etc/PROBLEMS b/etc/PROBLEMS index c194ba5..2bd1bbc 100644 --- a/etc/PROBLEMS +++ b/etc/PROBLEMS @@ -1939,6 +1939,15 @@ set the 'visible-cursor' variable to nil in your ~/.emacs: Still other way is to change the "cvvis" capability to send the "\E[?25h\E[?0c" command. +*** Ubuntu and Fedora display glitch + +On some Ubuntu or Fedora systems, when double-buffering is enabled +(which it is, by default) cosmetic artifacts are visible after certain +scrolling operations. Double-buffering can be disabled by adding the +following line to ~/.emacs: + + (modify-all-frames-parameters '((inhibit-double-buffering . t))) + ** FreeBSD *** FreeBSD: Getting a Meta key on the console. ? 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Roelli" , Eli Zaretskii References: <87inc7gifs.fsf@cassou.me> <87lggzecb8.fsf@cassou.me> <87inbr10is.fsf@cassou.me> <87r2qcby0f.fsf@cassou.me> <83y3kkjslk.fsf@gnu.org> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: <04de41eb-145b-9a41-d341-8fdf818a0486@yandex.ru> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 17:14:07 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:58.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/58.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 1/27/18 5:09 PM, Charles A. Roelli wrote: > +*** Ubuntu and Fedora display glitch We can probably just say GNU/Linux. Highly unlikely that this problem is specific to Ubuntu and Fedora. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 1/27/18 5:09 PM, Charles A. Roelli wrote: > +*** Ubuntu and Fedora display glitch We can probably just say GNU/Linux. Highly unlikely that this problem is specific to Ubuntu and Fedora. 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Roelli wrote: > +*** Ubuntu and Fedora display glitch We can probably just say GNU/Linux. Highly unlikely that this problem is specific to Ubuntu and Fedora. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 27 10:30:35 2018 Received: (at 30088) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2018 15:30:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45390 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efSR9-0005ds-Mw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 10:30:35 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47191) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efSR8-0005dX-Ju for 30088@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 10:30:34 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efSQz-0003FQ-6k for 30088@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 10:30:29 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54932) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efSQo-00034b-4G; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 10:30:14 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3429 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1efSQn-00088J-Cf; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 10:30:13 -0500 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 17:30:14 +0200 Message-Id: <83a7wzjp4p.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: charles@aurox.ch (Charles A. Roelli) In-reply-to: (charles@aurox.ch) Subject: Re: bug#30088: 26.0.90; [Emacs 26] Rendering glitch References: <87inc7gifs.fsf@cassou.me> <87lggzecb8.fsf@cassou.me> <87inbr10is.fsf@cassou.me> <87r2qcby0f.fsf@cassou.me> <83y3kkjslk.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30088 Cc: damien@cassou.me, 30088@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 15:09:26 +0100 > From: charles@aurox.ch (Charles A. Roelli) > CC: damien@cassou.me, 30088@debbugs.gnu.org, > npostavs@users.sourceforge.net > > > Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 22:03:03 +0200 > > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > > Suggestions for such an entry in PROBLEMS are welcome. > > How about: Thanks. Here's what I eventually pushed: *** Display artifacts on GUI frames on X-based systems. This is known to be caused by using double-buffering (which is enabled by default in Emacs 26 and later). The artifacts typically appear after commands that cause Emacs to scroll the display. You can disable double-buffering by evaluating the following form: (modify-all-frames-parameters '((inhibit-double-buffering . t))) To make this permanent, add it to your ~/.emacs init file. Note that disabling double-buffering will cause flickering of the display in some situations. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 27 10:31:16 2018 Received: (at 30088) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2018 15:31:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45397 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efSRo-0005fk-0r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 10:31:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47392) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efSRm-0005fW-M4 for 30088@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 10:31:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efSRd-0003Tn-8O for 30088@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 10:31:09 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54945) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efSRS-0003Op-G0; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 10:30:54 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3430 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1efSRR-0000sB-Uo; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 10:30:54 -0500 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 17:30:56 +0200 Message-Id: <838tcjjp3j.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Dmitry Gutov In-reply-to: <04de41eb-145b-9a41-d341-8fdf818a0486@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sat, 27 Jan 2018 17:14:07 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#30088: 26.0.90; [Emacs 26] Rendering glitch References: <87inc7gifs.fsf@cassou.me> <87lggzecb8.fsf@cassou.me> <87inbr10is.fsf@cassou.me> <87r2qcby0f.fsf@cassou.me> <83y3kkjslk.fsf@gnu.org> <04de41eb-145b-9a41-d341-8fdf818a0486@yandex.ru> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30088 Cc: damien@cassou.me, 30088@debbugs.gnu.org, charles@aurox.ch, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Cc: damien@cassou.me, 30088@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 17:14:07 +0300 > > On 1/27/18 5:09 PM, Charles A. Roelli wrote: > > > +*** Ubuntu and Fedora display glitch > > We can probably just say GNU/Linux. Highly unlikely that this problem is > specific to Ubuntu and Fedora. Yes, definitely. I don't even think it's specific to GNU/Linux. 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I don't even think it's [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30088 Cc: damien@cassou.me, charles@aurox.ch, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 30088@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > +*** Ubuntu and Fedora display glitch >> >> We can probably just say GNU/Linux. Highly unlikely that this problem is >> specific to Ubuntu and Fedora. > > Yes, definitely. I don't even think it's specific to GNU/Linux. (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved at the time.) This is now: --- *** Display artifacts on GUI frames on X-based systems. --- Skimming this thread, it looked like the conclusion here was that this problem was just documented, but there wasn't really much to do beyond that? Damien, is this problem still present in Emacs 29? 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Content preview: tags 30088 + moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 30088 + moreinfo quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 21 10:45:36 2022 Received: (at 30088) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2022 15:45:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38669 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMAsa-0007X4-1Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 10:45:36 -0500 Received: from mail.choca.pics ([80.67.172.235]:52684) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMAsY-0007UO-L2 for 30088@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 10:45:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [IPv6:::1]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A04B18193F79; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 16:45:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.choca.pics ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mail.choca.pics [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id exXIby328Irr; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 16:45:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [IPv6:::1]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EBD18193F7B; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 16:45:31 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at choca.pics Received: from mail.choca.pics ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mail.choca.pics [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id e-GjuJ0AkkvB; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 16:45:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (39.99.92.92.rev.sfr.net [92.92.99.39]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 804B218193F79; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 16:45:31 +0100 (CET) From: Damien Cassou To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#30088: Rendering glitch with double buffering enabled In-Reply-To: <87ee3wi6gv.fsf_-_@gnus.org> References: <87inc7gifs.fsf@cassou.me> <87lggzecb8.fsf@cassou.me> <87inbr10is.fsf@cassou.me> <87r2qcby0f.fsf@cassou.me> <83y3kkjslk.fsf@gnu.org> <04de41eb-145b-9a41-d341-8fdf818a0486@yandex.ru> <838tcjjp3j.fsf@gnu.org> <87ee3wi6gv.fsf_-_@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 16:45:31 +0100 Message-ID: <87czjgi5pg.fsf@cassou.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30088 Cc: charles@aurox.ch, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 30088@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Lars, Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Skimming this thread, it looked like the conclusion here was that this > problem was just documented, but there wasn't really much to do beyond > that? > > Damien, is this problem still present in Emacs 29? I seem to recall Po > Lu doing some changes in this area lately, but I may be misremembering. I have double-buffering back on and saw no glitches for years. I think the issue might safely be closed. We might even remove the related section in PROBLEMS. -- Damien Cassou "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 21 11:04:36 2022 Received: (at 30088) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2022 16:04:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38712 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMBAy-0003Z5-ML for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:04:36 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:40602) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMBAw-0003Yl-Um for 30088@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:04:35 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=AGQy/UnBcjJvfVz2Sx1ikvF5CxXcy6NV2nM4ilI1J8w=; b=JAc++X+CIR58dxMYQbLU1W7f3c 3uAJN2cU/9wPJgBh41Sjf5Ee3kzEkv2bAMH598JIwVUklD3EwZ7UIDpw15Xc72ZMyt0kDe+UmXC45 7YRwRf772T1kAzAii7K1BeGeOk8W+jPk4oeGBXEdW2IVFxYUKNjywoRtJKrJFx7DosSE=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nMBAi-0000sh-Dw; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:04:22 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Damien Cassou Subject: Re: bug#30088: Rendering glitch with double buffering enabled References: <87inc7gifs.fsf@cassou.me> <87lggzecb8.fsf@cassou.me> <87inbr10is.fsf@cassou.me> <87r2qcby0f.fsf@cassou.me> <83y3kkjslk.fsf@gnu.org> <04de41eb-145b-9a41-d341-8fdf818a0486@yandex.ru> <838tcjjp3j.fsf@gnu.org> <87ee3wi6gv.fsf_-_@gnus.org> <87czjgi5pg.fsf@cassou.me> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEWJgHTa2NZIQTr/ ///FtiXEAAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+YCFRAEA/CNkTwAAAF7SURBVCjPfdDBThsxEAbg 2Sitqj1FUYxETyQHlPopXJQg2NMW7aCyp4AaKexTOFWMopx6SDivo1KZ/yk7dlALF+b2ee3Z+YcU /y9KmDJPuGLqeznxhqQEoTzuDAVdOeztzf3H4SJ+UdTzk6fT7BYI+Y767eTkzs2w9xEI2X65EDQR yEbLBnjWggDq+DvBhZL/jC38TBpI6z5aq/1cAwlBMD17AdbwfJ6uHVlS0zdTv4Xpfn/GTmDUWDX2 PggG/KM3ck220BF+/mu0NHQS8RhmYxoWCBBsoT9ZAQ4o1lYVOk/INOyuGFYH5HrzVDiG5NnaPja+ HrCW2Ns95RtfXnOTO3pA0PDfrrhOkPKXzFWpaGXp3+TkXkc4oByk9bopV8QlZC8CkrdcBrRBxWuy AgF6CV+Z68/487iLkM4XV1h1IyrxZY3VwEX4Od+c4bd2MkGHMjZUtxDIaGs2WY0E6RoKmye00Btb x9kFEgdfBD/tB3LWmPcivIaEkZf4C95g2gEFswnBAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIyLTAy LTIxVDE2OjA0OjAzKzAwOjAwKcUsmQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMi0wMi0yMVQxNjow NDowMyswMDowMFiYlCUAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Bobbie Gentry's _The Girl From Chickasaw County (6): Fancy_: "Raindrops Keep Fallin' on My Head (Alternate Take)" Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:04:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87czjgi5pg.fsf@cassou.me> (Damien Cassou's message of "Mon, 21 Feb 2022 16:45:31 +0100") Message-ID: <87h78sgq9o.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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I think > > the issue might safely be closed. We might even remove the related > > section in PROBLEMS. > > Yup; now done (on master). I reverted that commit. PROBLEMS is special in that it describes issues with software other than Emacs. Since we cannot control that external software, we usually cannot know whether and when those issues are resolved, nor whether old versions of that software are still being used by someone who happens to run a newer Emacs. So the fact that Damien no longer sees the problem doesn't mean it cannot happen to someone else, because what fixed that for Damien could be upgrade of some software (other than Emacs) which other Emacs users don't necessarily share. For this reason, we almost never can positively know that a PROBLEMS entry is no longer relevant, and that is why we have there very old entries. (It's possible that some of them can be removed, but the rationale should be that we can establish positively that the software causing problems is known to not be relevant anymore.) 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Tue, 22 Feb 2022 01:05:44 +0000 Received: by kubenode510.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID dc025163b659046d071806a574b00d95; Tue, 22 Feb 2022 01:05:39 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#30088: Rendering glitch with double buffering enabled References: <87inc7gifs.fsf@cassou.me> <87lggzecb8.fsf@cassou.me> <87inbr10is.fsf@cassou.me> <87r2qcby0f.fsf@cassou.me> <83y3kkjslk.fsf@gnu.org> <04de41eb-145b-9a41-d341-8fdf818a0486@yandex.ru> <838tcjjp3j.fsf@gnu.org> <87ee3wi6gv.fsf_-_@gnus.org> <87czjgi5pg.fsf@cassou.me> <87h78sgq9o.fsf@gnus.org> <83czjguoys.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 09:05:35 +0800 In-Reply-To: <83czjguoys.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 21 Feb 2022 19:08:43 +0200") Message-ID: <87v8x7d82o.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19797 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1208 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 30088 Cc: 30088@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, damien@cassou.me, dgutov@yandex.ru, charles@aurox.ch, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I reverted that commit. > > PROBLEMS is special in that it describes issues with software other > than Emacs. Since we cannot control that external software, we > usually cannot know whether and when those issues are resolved, nor > whether old versions of that software are still being used by someone > who happens to run a newer Emacs. So the fact that Damien no longer > sees the problem doesn't mean it cannot happen to someone else, > because what fixed that for Damien could be upgrade of some software > (other than Emacs) which other Emacs users don't necessarily share. > > For this reason, we almost never can positively know that a PROBLEMS > entry is no longer relevant, and that is why we have there very old > entries. (It's possible that some of them can be removed, but the > rationale should be that we can establish positively that the software > causing problems is known to not be relevant anymore.) Yes. This particular bug also depends on the video driver and X server to a larger degree than normal. Damien could have upgraded his X server, but other people might be running different versions (or entirely different servers altogether.) From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:14:28 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator