From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 29 21:12:12 2017 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2017 02:12:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57096 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eV6d8-0000Gh-3w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 21:12:10 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40971) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eV6d4-0000GB-44 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 21:12:06 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eV6cv-0004hw-Un for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 21:12:00 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:41138) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eV6cv-0004hn-Qv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 21:11:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60109) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eV6ct-0006TW-4T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 21:11:57 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eV6cp-0004cA-Qb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 21:11:55 -0500 Received: from mail-io0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22b]:44348) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eV6cp-0004bc-Jr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 21:11:51 -0500 Received: by mail-io0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id k18so2253669ioc.11 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 18:11:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=0JFhffnR7aJBmYHHwenpBb7pHJX7eydXT5Gny1RZZ1c=; b=ZdnTLkbkh3dBrt+L6q+b7oX53+B2acH8Jyde63iJZOa6XV2P1gmjv/+6Au1cvAKHGA Fucpj2mDc1SG9r9WpuMSLLnS4foaMQUtPAh6KlyEa8t1aKqZTg62IN8ZOyVvExUFvDcb wIxufQu0ocPbBfe+Zg2IzG885P73e9iuGaLPcnarsImkE8rmh8iEYYcv0l0Cd7Nj7od6 +OdMGpHght9pM5xr5rHMKxQ6qSGi8cEhow3Ub7xvjUkweJcWWE0lv0VhE2kA8ih+K+mC xvwFa5KI3iVTIN6uct2rD2D1VFzAb0vLmDiG3xvNv7AAcZtB3zdFlkxg2YNyDxSNMiLg NSPg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=0JFhffnR7aJBmYHHwenpBb7pHJX7eydXT5Gny1RZZ1c=; b=mowdHz3EsvzSVygquywp0WN033ZZlq0W4qAKmeg1sa0rzLLl5NKyrctOOPYwQ2BumG UghhbdOugzffnR+8Y5iBSc1C9r25lmwcLNvuanHOsITYD+z6XCMZnrZ8RcOKzdMeFXuQ cImXvvK+RHF1jIGhy3lMp7jCxu91jQfdnwhv2lJ+t9RvfdMNtO1qFdCq1RUPyTEXOabR q/kDIzKhzVXiQA/CeZwJJSyj5vkiyg2J6qETvW5DQJB5jE/yyT0kIUXNM9177t5qYDtA feiLXpxleBbFfaN1EIjWIudkqrydv/LK+vvZ9PZx2HP+X+iwHHqspFQ+riTJS68JWrF8 XAHA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mIBd1obZOhbyGsGWpfQb8DmmfU6QNuwzqW+xfJW8X0ouJMP79Up sUE7fkIYquUFhmGKZme0hGqk3bjc X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBosK8fmrhYlcQ+Pf9VVZieV45DCdOmrxf8SDVz95gyFOg0O6pi8IFhrCm6qdv90+GAvmgwS0DQ== X-Received: by 10.107.84.1 with SMTP id i1mr45770672iob.3.1514599910388; Fri, 29 Dec 2017 18:11:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from moondust.localdomain.nodomain.none ([207.164.79.100]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o200sm13314929itg.10.2017.12.29.18.11.48 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 29 Dec 2017 18:11:49 -0800 (PST) From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.0.50; Emacs prompts for passwords in GUI dialog instead of minibuffer Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 21:11:44 -0500 Message-ID: <871sjdufq7.fsf@moondust.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) When I start Gnus with `M-x gnus' I get prompted for my password (for my authinfo.gpg file) in a GUI dialog box. Expected behaviour: The prompt is in the minibuffer. Similarly, when I open a .gpg file with `C-x C-f' I am being presented with a GUI dialog instead of a prompt in the minibuffer. In general I expect to see prompts in the minibuffer unless I interact with Emacs with the mouse, through the menus or toolbar. This behaviour is new since I last used master a few months ago. In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.21) of 2017-12-29 built on moondust.localdomain Repository revision: ace8f2ed4d6ea49d179333f8e7455e5208417da7 Windowing system distributor 'Fedora Project', version 11.0.11903000 System Description: Fedora release 26 (Twenty Six) Recent messages: 20171229T205917.388> Opening nnfolder server... 20171229T205917.389> Opening nnfolder server...done 20171229T205917.390> Reading incoming mail from file... 20171229T205917.391> nnfolder: Reading incoming mail (no new mail)...done 20171229T205917.391> Reading active file via nnfolder... 20171229T205917.391> Reading active file via nnfolder...done 20171229T205917.391> Reading active file via nndraft... 20171229T205917.392> Reading active file via nndraft... 20171229T205917.393> Reading active file via nndraft...done 20171229T205917.393> Checking new news...done Configured using: 'configure --without-pop 'CFLAGS=-O2 -g3 -gdwarf-4'' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG 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spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eVCMs-000887-VJ for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 03:19:51 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38770) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eVCMs-00087x-Rl; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 03:19:46 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4250 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eVCMs-000348-AM; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 03:19:46 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 10:19:33 +0200 Message-Id: <83a7y0fx0q.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) In-reply-to: <871sjdufq7.fsf@moondust.localdomain> (nljlistbox2@gmail.com) Subject: Re: bug#29906: 27.0.50; Emacs prompts for passwords in GUI dialog instead of minibuffer References: <871sjdufq7.fsf@moondust.localdomain> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29906 Cc: 29906@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) > Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 21:11:44 -0500 > > When I start Gnus with `M-x gnus' I get prompted for my password > (for my authinfo.gpg file) in a GUI dialog box. Expected > behaviour: The prompt is in the minibuffer. > > Similarly, when I open a .gpg file with `C-x C-f' I am being > presented with a GUI dialog instead of a prompt in the minibuffer. > > In general I expect to see prompts in the minibuffer unless I > interact with Emacs with the mouse, through the menus or toolbar. > > This behaviour is new since I last used master a few months ago. Does this NEWS.26 entry help? ** The pinentry.el library has been removed. That package (and the corresponding change in GnuPG and pinentry) was intended to provide a way to input passphrase through Emacs with GnuPG 2.0. However, the change to support that was only implemented in GnuPG >= 2.1 and didn't get backported to GnuPG 2.0. And with GnuPG 2.1 and later, pinentry.el is not needed at all. So the library was useless, and we removed it. GnuPG 2.0 is no longer supported by the upstream project. To adapt to the change, you may need to set 'epa-pinentry-mode' to the symbol 'loopback'. What version of GnuPG do you have on that system? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 30 10:54:47 2017 Received: (at 29906) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2017 15:54:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58040 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eVJTD-0007h2-JR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 10:54:47 -0500 Received: from mail-io0-f175.google.com ([209.85.223.175]:39928) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eVJTB-0007gk-L5 for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 10:54:45 -0500 Received: by mail-io0-f175.google.com with SMTP id g70so31109884ioj.6 for <29906@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 07:54:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=aV+76O14+2w4594T1IlLwQlAIkIQC26n4d1NYPK54PY=; b=npu+TNcFNkIVaFyBTyaI3x/FSJc+qSWxBkoJtYErqcuY6BFQC/iEJ2nn1lsGrI2aU4 7dwN0+EFzieeDRDSEPaE7nUn8gifaclIji2qgPkQBCY8y4ofdXVBkhNyfWZwkNzMTHFD AG08iap439562LriNf1dknqZagwS/BDjtppvV3bfEPjnzvVl2WN85bLOM8UtH729Bz/h zjQFa+Ko2wTSddo0/jhZqzhsWKFWqDI6uK8rXN/Zi3WyX3hhyPMaPnSN6+YpyEa7V3Is kL4bg7nY92NNsT5i34NeYONWaEO23YLNM5bXEO6WgmYR3/jB5puxa0cA9D0d6A5Rp2Rk 9QrA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=aV+76O14+2w4594T1IlLwQlAIkIQC26n4d1NYPK54PY=; b=B5CYAzxZUb44wldUkuRwl2KtJesRQ1V2dcPMN8c0B1dlk37jTX4nvuCaSFq315k00c JSvYI0oo55TCujoG3h4oiSm8WF7FNMxzcOAXfGOdaM2zXrzW1SPqXnQhXAHznwu7Df8n 8M08WMHtSAoPouwTU9GiRxO/w0Sw0bh4T09crx81gPFoVO3gneVvRj1N3Fe3wajXatVG AX9QIgayhlwPb20+18lNhjGlXQQAeGnDlU6c9u6J70fXh8tViopZTXfyo5xTooe6NIri Myay2t5lvuW5O/quy5+rIcXVpmGuXyYS630lByY9OhjPRN8dNzCL76UpUX9YMSEyHg3e pjxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mKCnFUMpPN1Lra62tUsP/270RLL/QvKf+mHNI3KBfJpmo/rz/fa rRBqRoWCphG1saeHQO7MI5fIKIdJ X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBov5bJBwyjH3WPWLTgQ2wYeJRqcgbK1/1YLzs25PmC9aOO/IJf4z0Te1P1e4/f82p7jZayHflw== X-Received: by 10.107.43.75 with SMTP id r72mr48750844ior.89.1514649279772; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 07:54:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from moondust.localdomain.nodomain.none ([207.164.79.68]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r67sm14396567ioi.30.2017.12.30.07.54.38 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 30 Dec 2017 07:54:39 -0800 (PST) From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#29906: 27.0.50; Emacs prompts for passwords in GUI dialog instead of minibuffer References: <871sjdufq7.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83a7y0fx0q.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 10:54:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83a7y0fx0q.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 30 Dec 2017 10:19:33 +0200") Message-ID: <87wp14ky88.fsf@moondust.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29906 Cc: 29906@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) At 10:19 +0200 on Saturday 2017-12-30, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Does this NEWS.26 entry help? > > ** The pinentry.el library has been removed. > That package (and the corresponding change in GnuPG and pinentry) > was intended to provide a way to input passphrase through Emacs with > GnuPG 2.0. However, the change to support that was only implemented > in GnuPG >= 2.1 and didn't get backported to GnuPG 2.0. And with > GnuPG 2.1 and later, pinentry.el is not needed at all. So the > library was useless, and we removed it. GnuPG 2.0 is no longer > supported by the upstream project. > > To adapt to the change, you may need to set 'epa-pinentry-mode' to the > symbol 'loopback'. Yes, that does help, thank you. I should have checked the news. It doesn't help me decide what to do though. Do you know if using the prompt in the minibuffer (using `loopback') is thought to be less secure than using the external pinentry program? > What version of GnuPG do you have on that system? Here `gpg' is GnuPG 1.4.22 and `gpg2' is GnuPG 2.2.3. N. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 30 13:03:07 2017 Received: (at 29906) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2017 18:03:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58100 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eVLTP-0002rg-6X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 13:03:07 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46022) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eVLTN-0002r9-9X for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 13:03:05 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eVLTH-0007Fm-6r for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 13:03:00 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42998) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eVLT8-0006o8-M5; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 13:02:50 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1563 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eVLT7-0002WX-Ni; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 13:02:50 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 20:02:33 +0200 Message-Id: <83po6wdrgm.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson), Daiki Ueno In-reply-to: <87wp14ky88.fsf@moondust.localdomain> (nljlistbox2@gmail.com) Subject: Re: bug#29906: 27.0.50; Emacs prompts for passwords in GUI dialog instead of minibuffer References: <871sjdufq7.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83a7y0fx0q.fsf@gnu.org> <87wp14ky88.fsf@moondust.localdomain> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29906 Cc: 29906@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) > Cc: 29906@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 10:54:31 -0500 > > At 10:19 +0200 on Saturday 2017-12-30, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > Does this NEWS.26 entry help? > > > > ** The pinentry.el library has been removed. > > That package (and the corresponding change in GnuPG and pinentry) > > was intended to provide a way to input passphrase through Emacs with > > GnuPG 2.0. However, the change to support that was only implemented > > in GnuPG >= 2.1 and didn't get backported to GnuPG 2.0. And with > > GnuPG 2.1 and later, pinentry.el is not needed at all. So the > > library was useless, and we removed it. GnuPG 2.0 is no longer > > supported by the upstream project. > > > > To adapt to the change, you may need to set 'epa-pinentry-mode' to the > > symbol 'loopback'. > > Yes, that does help, thank you. I should have checked the news. > > It doesn't help me decide what to do though. Do you know if using > the prompt in the minibuffer (using `loopback') is thought to be > less secure than using the external pinentry program? I don't know enough about this to tell. Daiki, any inputs? > > What version of GnuPG do you have on that system? > > Here `gpg' is GnuPG 1.4.22 and `gpg2' is GnuPG 2.2.3. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 30 15:13:28 2017 Received: (at 29906) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2017 20:13:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58150 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eVNVY-0006V8-NJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:13:28 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51658) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eVNVX-0006Uu-3e for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:13:27 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eVNVM-000238-Sk for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:13:21 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43704) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eVNVM-00022l-P9; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:13:16 -0500 Received: from du-a.org ([219.94.251.20]:44544 helo=localhost.localdomain) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eVNVL-0008Jn-Ma; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:13:16 -0500 Message-ID: <87y3lkug8f.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> From: Daiki Ueno To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#29906: 27.0.50; Emacs prompts for passwords in GUI dialog instead of minibuffer References: <871sjdufq7.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83a7y0fx0q.fsf@gnu.org> <87wp14ky88.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83po6wdrgm.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 21:13:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83po6wdrgm.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 30 Dec 2017 20:02:33 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29906 Cc: "N. Jackson" , 29906@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) >> Cc: 29906@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 10:54:31 -0500 >> >> At 10:19 +0200 on Saturday 2017-12-30, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> > >> > Does this NEWS.26 entry help? >> > >> > ** The pinentry.el library has been removed. >> > That package (and the corresponding change in GnuPG and pinentry) >> > was intended to provide a way to input passphrase through Emacs with >> > GnuPG 2.0. However, the change to support that was only implemented >> > in GnuPG >= 2.1 and didn't get backported to GnuPG 2.0. And with >> > GnuPG 2.1 and later, pinentry.el is not needed at all. So the >> > library was useless, and we removed it. GnuPG 2.0 is no longer >> > supported by the upstream project. >> > >> > To adapt to the change, you may need to set 'epa-pinentry-mode' to the >> > symbol 'loopback'. I wasn't aware of this entry. Would it really make sense, given that pinentry.el was a new library introduced in Emacs 26? >> Yes, that does help, thank you. I should have checked the news. >> >> It doesn't help me decide what to do though. Do you know if using >> the prompt in the minibuffer (using `loopback') is thought to be >> less secure than using the external pinentry program? > > I don't know enough about this to tell. Daiki, any inputs? I would say it's provides the same level of security as pinentry-gtk, which no longer uses secmem these days. It's unfortunate that one of the GnuPG contributors (who currently seems inactive) had advertised that it was less secure, based on his Emacs 19 knowledge: https://dev.gnupg.org/T2034#89059 Sigh. I am really disapponted with the recent development of GnuPG (failed attempt of standardization, immature implementation of TOFU, FUD like this, etc). Regards, -- Daiki Ueno From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 30 15:54:21 2017 Received: (at 29906) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2017 20:54:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58163 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eVO97-0007ek-AQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:54:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39742) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eVO94-0007eU-RW for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:54:19 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eVO8y-0008Fo-HL for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:54:13 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43878) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eVO8s-000886-EW; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:54:06 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1810 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eVO8q-0007Gg-HE; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:54:06 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 22:53:45 +0200 Message-Id: <83k1x4djja.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Daiki Ueno In-reply-to: <87y3lkug8f.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> (message from Daiki Ueno on Sat, 30 Dec 2017 21:13:04 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#29906: 27.0.50; Emacs prompts for passwords in GUI dialog instead of minibuffer References: <871sjdufq7.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83a7y0fx0q.fsf@gnu.org> <87wp14ky88.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83po6wdrgm.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3lkug8f.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29906 Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 29906@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Daiki Ueno > Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson), 29906@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 21:13:04 +0100 > > >> > ** The pinentry.el library has been removed. > >> > That package (and the corresponding change in GnuPG and pinentry) > >> > was intended to provide a way to input passphrase through Emacs with > >> > GnuPG 2.0. However, the change to support that was only implemented > >> > in GnuPG >= 2.1 and didn't get backported to GnuPG 2.0. And with > >> > GnuPG 2.1 and later, pinentry.el is not needed at all. So the > >> > library was useless, and we removed it. GnuPG 2.0 is no longer > >> > supported by the upstream project. > >> > > >> > To adapt to the change, you may need to set 'epa-pinentry-mode' to the > >> > symbol 'loopback'. > > I wasn't aware of this entry. Would it really make sense, given that > pinentry.el was a new library introduced in Emacs 26? ??? I see pinentry.el in all versions of Emacs starting from 25.1. > >> Yes, that does help, thank you. I should have checked the news. > >> > >> It doesn't help me decide what to do though. Do you know if using > >> the prompt in the minibuffer (using `loopback') is thought to be > >> less secure than using the external pinentry program? > > > > I don't know enough about this to tell. Daiki, any inputs? > > I would say it's provides the same level of security as pinentry-gtk, > which no longer uses secmem these days. > > It's unfortunate that one of the GnuPG contributors (who currently seems > inactive) had advertised that it was less secure, based on his Emacs 19 > knowledge: > https://dev.gnupg.org/T2034#89059 Would you advise saying something along these lines in NEWS? Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 30 16:06:49 2017 Received: (at 29906) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2017 21:06:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58167 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eVOL9-00080d-Fj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:06:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45703) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eVOL8-00080P-N7 for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:06:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eVOKy-00054o-OV for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:06:41 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43991) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eVOKy-00054W-LH; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:06:36 -0500 Received: from du-a.org ([219.94.251.20]:44546 helo=localhost.localdomain) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eVOKx-00059R-Q4; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:06:36 -0500 Message-ID: <87tvw8udrf.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> From: Daiki Ueno To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#29906: 27.0.50; Emacs prompts for passwords in GUI dialog instead of minibuffer References: <871sjdufq7.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83a7y0fx0q.fsf@gnu.org> <87wp14ky88.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83po6wdrgm.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3lkug8f.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> <83k1x4djja.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 22:06:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83k1x4djja.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 30 Dec 2017 22:53:45 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29906 Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 29906@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Daiki Ueno >> Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson), 29906@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 21:13:04 +0100 >> >> >> > ** The pinentry.el library has been removed. >> >> > That package (and the corresponding change in GnuPG and pinentry) >> >> > was intended to provide a way to input passphrase through Emacs with >> >> > GnuPG 2.0. However, the change to support that was only implemented >> >> > in GnuPG >= 2.1 and didn't get backported to GnuPG 2.0. And with >> >> > GnuPG 2.1 and later, pinentry.el is not needed at all. So the >> >> > library was useless, and we removed it. GnuPG 2.0 is no longer >> >> > supported by the upstream project. >> >> > >> >> > To adapt to the change, you may need to set 'epa-pinentry-mode' to the >> >> > symbol 'loopback'. >> >> I wasn't aware of this entry. Would it really make sense, given that >> pinentry.el was a new library introduced in Emacs 26? > > ??? I see pinentry.el in all versions of Emacs starting from 25.1. Oops, you are right (forgot about it). Then, perhaps it might be safer to move it to obsolete, but I presume the impact of the removal is not that big. > Would you advise saying something along these lines in NEWS? Sure. Regards, -- Daiki Ueno From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 09 13:34:05 2018 Received: (at 29906) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jan 2018 18:34:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49867 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eYyiq-00035o-QD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2018 13:34:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43881) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eYyio-00035C-8X for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2018 13:34:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eYyii-0008SS-G3 for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2018 13:33:57 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:32833) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eYyif-0008Pe-EW; Tue, 09 Jan 2018 13:33:53 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eYyid-0008AC-R4; Tue, 09 Jan 2018 13:33:51 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Daiki Ueno Subject: Re: bug#29906: 27.0.50; Emacs prompts for passwords in GUI dialog instead of minibuffer References: <871sjdufq7.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83a7y0fx0q.fsf@gnu.org> <87wp14ky88.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83po6wdrgm.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3lkug8f.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> <83k1x4djja.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvw8udrf.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> X-Spook: Gazprom SCUD missile Reynosa Suicide attack Iraq X-Ran: )=3HE$ (Daiki Ueno's message of "Sat, 30 Dec 2017 22:06:28 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29906 Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , 29906@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Daiki Ueno wrote: >> ??? I see pinentry.el in all versions of Emacs starting from 25.1. > > Oops, you are right (forgot about it). Then, perhaps it might be safer > to move it to obsolete, but I presume the impact of the removal is not > that big. FWIW, it does seem unusual to me to delete a library altogether. Emacs normally moves things to obsolete/ first. Or obsolete/pinentry.el could just contain a single line: (setq epa-pinentry-mode 'loopback) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 15 16:12:12 2018 Received: (at 29906) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2018 21:12:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57809 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ebC39-0000Iy-Qi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:12:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51495) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ebC37-0000Ii-Rr for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:12:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ebC31-00072E-U9 for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:12:04 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56721) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ebC2x-00070f-WD; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:12:00 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ebC2x-0002zC-4V; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:11:59 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Daiki Ueno Subject: Re: bug#29906: 27.0.50; Emacs prompts for passwords in GUI dialog instead of minibuffer References: <871sjdufq7.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83a7y0fx0q.fsf@gnu.org> <87wp14ky88.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83po6wdrgm.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3lkug8f.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> <83k1x4djja.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvw8udrf.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> X-Spook: Small Pox Recall Denial of service Eco terrorism Collapse X-Ran: 8Mv\Fx&0kxD%khG(sJWU~Oh^v"t:zb"+$A X-Hue: brightgreen X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:11:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 09 Jan 2018 13:33:51 -0500") Message-ID: <0b3736ltcx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29906 Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , 29906@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) It seems clear to me that the file was deleted (rather than obsoleted) based on a misunderstanding about whether it had been in a release. I find it weird that this is just being ignored, but NMP. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 16 11:58:19 2018 Received: (at 29906) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jan 2018 16:58:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58983 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ebUZ1-0004jI-HD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 11:58:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36181) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ebUYx-0004j3-UC for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 11:58:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ebUYo-0007sd-SA for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 11:58:10 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43656) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ebUYc-0007mN-44; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 11:57:54 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1393 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ebUYb-000392-Ag; Tue, 16 Jan 2018 11:57:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 18:57:43 +0200 Message-Id: <83r2qpyc54.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Glenn Morris In-reply-to: <0b3736ltcx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Glenn Morris on Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:11:58 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#29906: 27.0.50; Emacs prompts for passwords in GUI dialog instead of minibuffer References: <871sjdufq7.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83a7y0fx0q.fsf@gnu.org> <87wp14ky88.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83po6wdrgm.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3lkug8f.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> <83k1x4djja.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvw8udrf.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> <0b3736ltcx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29906 Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, ueno@gnu.org, 29906@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: 29906@debbugs.gnu.org, nljlistbox2@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii > Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:11:58 -0500 > > It seems clear to me that the file was deleted (rather than obsoleted) > based on a misunderstanding about whether it had been in a release. > > I find it weird that this is just being ignored, but NMP. It's IMO very unfair to represent what we did about this (see bug#27445) as "ignoring". There's a limit to what we can do against strong opinions of a package maintainer. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 28 19:18:43 2019 Received: (at 29906) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Sep 2019 23:18:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51517 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iELz8-0002yB-Tx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 19:18:43 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f175.google.com ([209.85.210.175]:33675) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iELz7-0002xz-JL for 29906@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 19:18:42 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f175.google.com with SMTP id q10so3495811pfl.0 for <29906@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 16:18:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=EiilOs2cfoBPjmi6rXqhT13xCiii+Lk1tEqOtqJQ87I=; b=PlxPRmK9on2lNplKzAvIHbK0qHueAXPcFSbT0FW+GpkNXxiN+epdVPmG1MHvKR7T6G H3QmGUIvmRPWBW502Nh5EhA2UbabSSH4lgL8+PM5POtoc98OtsWTnfU3JVDWRAnRQ6my U+6NmVYnJ3xEwgvLw5IPo/wX4lXSnQ2xEUMEZ8PBAyxIyp8Eh3vB7SQaJDU74zsGFUND SlF1Ol+m29XtwAke1QcffUptUS8DmCd0oBFCHNBIY87hm9LDcrlYZdqAG/XJZXxoEuY6 DP7pGOQVwMrIAGOOX3XP4fQH1N1Hp1o/uN3kupbgjaEmMAmfDYdh1UooMtlLPX8sl1uw 9Cew== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVCwqplivIEuGxj9FoWn4WovkIKfIEE3QAxu3rrPJgpWD+CAT5A VEl0POvq9FjBOk9MLaB8psvIGOjMklSzMZBToZY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyiexvHl5RggKjks/y5ZGvTwmn91qbRu2F7CrhWhMrWC+y2Q1lOWzvh9F8FwBZ2PaKH/ssKNx/QHyHHnD6lHnk= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:8750:: with SMTP id g16mr12871637pfo.190.1569712715832; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 16:18:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Kangas Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 01:18:24 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#29906: 27.0.50; Emacs prompts for passwords in GUI dialog instead of minibuffer To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29906 Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 29906@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) >> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 21:11:44 -0500 >> >> When I start Gnus with `M-x gnus' I get prompted for my password >> (for my authinfo.gpg file) in a GUI dialog box. Expected >> behaviour: The prompt is in the minibuffer. >> >> Similarly, when I open a .gpg file with `C-x C-f' I am being >> presented with a GUI dialog instead of a prompt in the minibuffer. >> >> In general I expect to see prompts in the minibuffer unless I >> interact with Emacs with the mouse, through the menus or toolbar. >> >> This behaviour is new since I last used master a few months ago. > > Does this NEWS.26 entry help? > > ** The pinentry.el library has been removed. > That package (and the corresponding change in GnuPG and pinentry) > was intended to provide a way to input passphrase through Emacs with > GnuPG 2.0. However, the change to support that was only implemented > in GnuPG >= 2.1 and didn't get backported to GnuPG 2.0. And with > GnuPG 2.1 and later, pinentry.el is not needed at all. So the > library was useless, and we removed it. GnuPG 2.0 is no longer > supported by the upstream project. > > To adapt to the change, you may need to set 'epa-pinentry-mode' to the > symbol 'loopback'. > > What version of GnuPG do you have on that system? If I'm not mistaken, there is nothing more to do here. Therefore, and if no one protests within a reasonable time, I will close this as notabug. Best regards, Stefan Kagas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 30 16:15:32 2019 Received: (at 29906) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2019 20:15:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51562 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iPuNQ-0002hu-36 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 16:15:32 -0400 Received: from giraff.fripost.org ([193.234.15.44]:41984 helo=outgoing.fripost.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iPuNN-0002Zf-KF; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 16:15:30 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outgoing.fripost.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF71E187E6ED; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:15:23 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=x.fripost.org; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:user-agent:message-id :in-reply-to:date:date:references:subject:subject:from:from; s= 9df9cdc7e101629b5003b587945afa70; t=1572466523; x=1574280924; bh=0tj24SJIw6PaBK8ram0ZJTfao/CpBNoHRxpuTGMHcqU=; b=gKS3DQ4N9Tdf wtLrgyGHjBiDs7xj5wOGyN/SPbFK9uWeh3h98AXay5Lec+lTi1quGl4B+fB1nSo0 dYFeTedtLW5qnBjNFDbeeIYEW+OLLpLHz0yzcMzyyAtuNuXwiW1avenPXNri1uf+ n0eY8GTntTjsMUj602mYoVL9fU2RkZ6wZTo4r+WsxE9XldaK4dJZhO1FyhLF9mxl /fYFHzdr6e5X1SplGeLwTQE4EvPAws3bLB9f7PYXM6/1T/kmW1Au9nu/Fb08tFdS M/ApdWiHyiGizIceofUipN2XQzGEvCO0149VwjeEVI9FrZ+f5GopjjPJfSWZj7YN zR/EXuJRwA== X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at fripost.org Received: from outgoing.fripost.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (giraff.fripost.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10040) with LMTP id zqJPo7GPGimW; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:15:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.fripost.org (unknown [172.16.0.6]) by outgoing.fripost.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9E1187E6E9; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:15:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by smtp.fripost.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8C19C599EBE1; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:15:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from skangas by joffe.skangas.se with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iPuMt-0004Kk-2Y; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:14:59 +0100 From: Stefan Kangas To: Eli Zaretskii , Subject: Re: bug#29906: 27.0.50; Emacs prompts for passwords in GUI dialog instead of minibuffer References: <871sjdufq7.fsf@moondust.localdomain> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:14:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sun, 29 Sep 2019 01:18:24 +0200") Message-ID: <877e4myoqk.fsf@joffe.skangas.se> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29906 Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 29906@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) tags 29906 + notabug close 29906 thanks Stefan Kangas writes: > If I'm not mistaken, there is nothing more to do here. Therefore, and > if no one protests within a reasonable time, I will close this as > notabug. No protests within 4 weeks; closing now. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From unknown Tue Aug 19 13:27:23 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 12:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator