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27.0; doc of `tooltip-resize-echo-area'

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From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>, 29805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#29805: 27.0; doc of `tooltip-resize-echo-area'
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 09:33:48 +0100

>> So the question to be
>> answered first is: Do we ever want to fit stand-alone minibuffer
>> frames to their buffers?
>
> Please don't bother for me, anyway. ;-)

If we don't want to, the entire remainder of this discussion is moot.

> The bug report was really to suggest that such doc about
> resizing the space for the minibuffer / echo area should
> not lead people to believe that such resizing resizes a
> frame.  It applies only to a window in a frame that is
> not minibuffer-only (AFAICT), so that should be made clear.

Resizing the echo area when showing a tooltip is just a special case
of resizing the minibuffer window so any reasonable discussion of the
former would have to start with the latter.

>> But the first question that comes to my mind is why we now have the
>> option `tooltip-resize-echo-area' which, according to its doc-string
>> "has effect only on GUI frames" while in Emacs 24.1 we have declared
>> `tooltip-use-echo-area' obsolete and suggested to disable tooltips
>> instead.
>
> 1. No idea why we now have it.
> 2. The doc string is wrong to refer to `tooltip-use-echo-area'.

Which doc string does (2)?

>> Resolved that, we should probably then also say that
>> `tooltip-resize-echo-area' has effect iff `resize-mini-windows' is
>> non-nil.
>
> And why isn't `resize-mini-windows' enough?  Is this about
> resizing ONLY the echo area and not the minibuffer?  (Does
> that even make sense?)
>
> It's all unclear to me.

To me too.  I have no idea why we (or at least an Emacs user) should
ever have to distinguish betweeen echo area and minibuffer.  There's
no practical need for that.

martin

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