From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 15 12:37:30 2017 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2017 17:37:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36014 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ePtvN-0001Zy-P7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 12:37:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51320) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ePtvK-0001Zl-J5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 12:37:27 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ePtvE-0005Qk-JU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 12:37:21 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:41993) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ePtvE-0005QW-GG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 12:37:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42289) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ePtvD-0006Qn-FA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 12:37:20 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ePtv9-0005KO-9X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 12:37:19 -0500 Received: from userp2120.oracle.com ([156.151.31.85]:35628) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ePtv8-0005Ib-Sh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 12:37:15 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.21/8.16.0.21) with SMTP id vBFHXL2V004119 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 17:37:12 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2017-10-26; bh=1OHmBhJmhXrAiX9PnKnFyvz8PeK6G6UdxyUG5StvUJg=; b=FMwM6Xat1i06VktIujXtqpPfmGACyUD8TA1Lsxgs/86Inv9ogmyORhsRvLgC9/39e4Bb ZsC5BA2WMyD9llIK1FrZQtNznHmz2pPayp/ZTah0A/0XYVU1w0UjxxCBLeqt8fx7N80Z uta3FYwGE/mU90wSH04cxztPDqJHZdZOBSeEAN8QfZuXvVIAIzLnL/lfJifdBWI3jrar PUKlIanN/uRk8qI2citBsE1+0FvPbbBwIUKWYX1czc64Yf/RDz5Q28zbi0Pr+yiEyD+3 Fu81nBy/0tizNVde0zu2MyVFuRYuT5GmaUO0zr986tGrbee+mrxVR5hfJdpn37HncdzG tg== Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by userp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2evje0r8s3-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 17:37:12 +0000 Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id vBFHbBA0009030 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 17:37:11 GMT Received: from abhmp0004.oracle.com (abhmp0004.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id vBFHbAnd014554 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 17:37:11 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3217ed52-c397-457c-8207-af04dd779f58@default> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 09:37:09 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.5; doc string of `invisible-p' X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4627.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=8746 signatures=668648 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=535 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1711220000 definitions=main-1712150245 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) The doc string is unclear. "Non-nil if the property makes the text invisible." What property? What text? "The non-nil value returned can be t for truly invisible text or something else if the text is replaced by an ellipsis." Huh? What is "truly invisible"? What "something else"? Does "something else" include `nil'? What does it mean for the text to be replaced by an ellipsis? What does the (unspecified!) value signify in the case of "the text" (?) being "replaced by an ellipsis"? It's really not clear what this doc string is trying to say. This text was introduced in Emacs 23. Prior to that the text was clear: "Return non-nil if the character after pos is currently invisible." 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