From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 09 21:03:17 2017 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Dec 2017 02:03:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54338 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eNqxY-00027Z-OX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:03:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39330) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eNqxW-00027N-JT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:03:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNqxQ-0001hj-IO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:03:09 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:49933) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNqxQ-0001hU-FH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:03:08 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58527) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNqxP-00054j-Bk for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:03:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNqxK-0001cb-DK for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:03:07 -0500 Received: from world.peace.net ([50.252.239.5]:36722) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNqxK-0001c6-7y for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:03:02 -0500 Received: from pool-72-93-28-165.bstnma.east.verizon.net ([72.93.28.165] helo=jojen) by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eNqxI-0007Fq-Hi; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:03:00 -0500 From: Mark H Weaver To: bug-guix@gnu.org Subject: Hydra fails to honor 'max-silent-time' for early guile build Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:02:42 -0500 Message-ID: <87efo3jq65.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) An early 'guile' build on armhf-linux consistently fails on Hydra, because the 'timeout' and 'max-silent-time' properties are not honored. For example: https://hydra.gnu.org/build/2391845 This is a longstanding issue. In past core-updates cycles, I have worked around the problem by rebuilding these early 'guile' derivations from Hydra's command line, passing --timeout and --max-silent-time manually, and then restarting the many dependency failures. It would be good to fix this issue properly. My guess is that the build parameters are not honored because there is no Hydra 'job' associated with this early 'guile'. Mark From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 11 04:40:11 2017 Received: (at 29634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Dec 2017 09:40:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56038 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eOKZH-0005bV-6v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 04:40:11 -0500 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([141.255.128.1]:38535) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eOKZG-0005bO-Ax for 29634@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 04:40:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1D7F6D4; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:40:13 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZAMketw5nFS5; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:40:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from ribbon (unknown [193.50.110.104]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 550B0F354; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:40:12 +0100 (CET) From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Mark H Weaver Subject: Re: bug#29634: Hydra fails to honor 'max-silent-time' for early guile build References: <87efo3jq65.fsf@netris.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 21 Frimaire an 226 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:40:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87efo3jq65.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:02:42 -0500") Message-ID: <877ett4n7r.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29634 Cc: 29634@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Mark H Weaver skribis: > An early 'guile' build on armhf-linux consistently fails on Hydra, > because the 'timeout' and 'max-silent-time' properties are not honored. > For example: > > https://hydra.gnu.org/build/2391845 > > This is a longstanding issue. In past core-updates cycles, I have > worked around the problem by rebuilding these early 'guile' derivations > from Hydra's command line, passing --timeout and --max-silent-time > manually, and then restarting the many dependency failures. > > It would be good to fix this issue properly. > > My guess is that the build parameters are not honored because there is > no Hydra 'job' associated with this early 'guile'. Exactly. Or maybe there=E2=80=99s one but this early =E2=80=98guile=E2=80= =99 is built as a dependency of another job. Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 11 21:58:27 2017 Received: (at 29634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2017 02:58:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57545 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eOam3-0002mB-0P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:58:27 -0500 Received: from world.peace.net ([50.252.239.5]:36606) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eOam1-0002lw-94 for 29634@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:58:25 -0500 Received: from pool-72-93-30-197.bstnma.east.verizon.net ([72.93.30.197] helo=jojen) by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eOalt-0008MW-T3; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:58:17 -0500 From: Mark H Weaver To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: Re: bug#29634: Hydra fails to honor 'max-silent-time' for early guile build References: <87efo3jq65.fsf@netris.org> <877ett4n7r.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:57:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: <877ett4n7r.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:40:08 +0100") Message-ID: <87y3m8irez.fsf@netris.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29634 Cc: 29634@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > Mark H Weaver skribis: > >> An early 'guile' build on armhf-linux consistently fails on Hydra, >> because the 'timeout' and 'max-silent-time' properties are not honored. >> For example: >> >> https://hydra.gnu.org/build/2391845 >> >> This is a longstanding issue. In past core-updates cycles, I have >> worked around the problem by rebuilding these early 'guile' derivations >> from Hydra's command line, passing --timeout and --max-silent-time >> manually, and then restarting the many dependency failures. >> >> It would be good to fix this issue properly. >> >> My guess is that the build parameters are not honored because there is >> no Hydra 'job' associated with this early 'guile'. > > Exactly. Or maybe there=E2=80=99s one but this early =E2=80=98guile=E2= =80=99 is built as a > dependency of another job. How do you think we should fix this? Mark From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 12 04:21:11 2017 Received: (at 29634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2017 09:21:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57690 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eOgkR-0006xy-BY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 04:21:11 -0500 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([141.255.128.1]:42237) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eOgkQ-0006xr-0V for 29634@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 04:21:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA11DF8D2; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:21:12 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x7HN9Avh0DJU; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:21:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from ribbon (unknown [193.50.110.104]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F032CF5CC; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:21:11 +0100 (CET) From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Mark H Weaver Subject: Re: bug#29634: Hydra fails to honor 'max-silent-time' for early guile build References: <87efo3jq65.fsf@netris.org> <877ett4n7r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3m8irez.fsf@netris.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 22 Frimaire an 226 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:21:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87y3m8irez.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:57:56 -0500") Message-ID: <87po7ks3nf.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29634 Cc: 29634@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Mark H Weaver skribis: > ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > >> Mark H Weaver skribis: >> >>> An early 'guile' build on armhf-linux consistently fails on Hydra, >>> because the 'timeout' and 'max-silent-time' properties are not honored. >>> For example: >>> >>> https://hydra.gnu.org/build/2391845 >>> >>> This is a longstanding issue. In past core-updates cycles, I have >>> worked around the problem by rebuilding these early 'guile' derivations >>> from Hydra's command line, passing --timeout and --max-silent-time >>> manually, and then restarting the many dependency failures. >>> >>> It would be good to fix this issue properly. >>> >>> My guess is that the build parameters are not honored because there is >>> no Hydra 'job' associated with this early 'guile'. >> >> Exactly. Or maybe there=E2=80=99s one but this early =E2=80=98guile=E2= =80=99 is built as a >> dependency of another job. > > How do you think we should fix this? Of course I=E2=80=99d prefer if Guile compile times were shorter. Besides, we should probably handle timeouts per-derivation rather than globally (currently timeout are per-session, see =E2=80=98set-build-options= =E2=80=99). We could do that by adding a new special value in the environment variable map of derivation (as is the case for, e.g., =E2=80=9CexportReferencesGraph=E2=80=9D) that the daemon would honor. It= =E2=80=99s a rebuild-the-world change though. Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 12 17:13:23 2017 Received: (at 29634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2017 22:13:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59028 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eOsnj-0006oB-I1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 17:13:23 -0500 Received: from world.peace.net ([50.252.239.5]:39042) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eOsni-0006nv-23 for 29634@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 17:13:22 -0500 Received: from pool-72-93-30-197.bstnma.east.verizon.net ([72.93.30.197] helo=jojen) by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eOsnc-00075N-5H; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 17:13:16 -0500 From: Mark H Weaver To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: Re: bug#29634: Hydra fails to honor 'max-silent-time' for early guile build References: <87efo3jq65.fsf@netris.org> <877ett4n7r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3m8irez.fsf@netris.org> <87po7ks3nf.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 17:12:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87po7ks3nf.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:21:08 +0100") Message-ID: <87h8svd28n.fsf@netris.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29634 Cc: 29634@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > Mark H Weaver skribis: > >> ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: >> >>> Mark H Weaver skribis: >>> >>>> An early 'guile' build on armhf-linux consistently fails on Hydra, >>>> because the 'timeout' and 'max-silent-time' properties are not honored. >>>> For example: >>>> >>>> https://hydra.gnu.org/build/2391845 >>>> >>>> This is a longstanding issue. In past core-updates cycles, I have >>>> worked around the problem by rebuilding these early 'guile' derivations >>>> from Hydra's command line, passing --timeout and --max-silent-time >>>> manually, and then restarting the many dependency failures. >>>> >>>> It would be good to fix this issue properly. >>>> >>>> My guess is that the build parameters are not honored because there is >>>> no Hydra 'job' associated with this early 'guile'. >>> >>> Exactly. Or maybe there=E2=80=99s one but this early =E2=80=98guile=E2= =80=99 is built as a >>> dependency of another job. >> >> How do you think we should fix this? > > Of course I=E2=80=99d prefer if Guile compile times were shorter. > > Besides, we should probably handle timeouts per-derivation rather than > globally (currently timeout are per-session, see =E2=80=98set-build-optio= ns=E2=80=99). > We could do that by adding a new special value in the environment > variable map of derivation (as is the case for, e.g., > =E2=80=9CexportReferencesGraph=E2=80=9D) that the daemon would honor. It= =E2=80=99s a > rebuild-the-world change though. Sounds good to me. For now, I'll rebuild the early guile for armhf manually. Thanks, Mark From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 08 09:28:43 2018 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jan 2018 14:28:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40382 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eYYPr-0007Y2-3j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2018 09:28:43 -0500 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([185.233.100.1]:35922) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eYYPo-0007Xu-Uh for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2018 09:28:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7962510812 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:28:40 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fg1oyMshc0Fp for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:28:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from ribbon (unknown [193.50.110.243]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E44E2107F6 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:28:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2018 15:28:39 +0100 Message-Id: <87d12kfmqw.fsf@gnu.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: control message for bug #29634 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) retitle 29634 'max-silent-time' etc. should be per-derivation settings