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date/time of "ls -lh" translation is wrong for Simplified Chinese

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From: Yasuaki Taniguchi/谷口康明 <yasuakit <at> gmail.com>
To: Peng Wu <peng.e.wu <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Aron Xu <happyaron.xu <at> gmail.com>, Abel Cheung <abelcheung <at> gmail.com>,
 Eric Blake <eblake <at> redhat.com>, i18n-zh <at> googlegroups.com,
 29377 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#29377: date/time of "ls -lh" translation is wrong for
 Simplified Chinese
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 16:31:55 +0900

Hello.

As for Japanese, I want to append "日", but I can't do it because of
the compatibility.

ls and some other programs in coreutils must work in the
terminal with 80 columns and 24 rows.

The original English message may be "Nov 21 11:22", the number of
columns is 12. And
translated Japanese messages is "`11月 21 11:22", the number of columns
is 13 (月 is full-width
character and it spends 2 columns).
If we append 日 after the number of the day, the number of columns will
be 15. That is too long.

Displaying date and time is very complex issue.




2017-11-24 14:03 GMT+09:00 Peng Wu <peng.e.wu <at> gmail.com>:
> Thanks, I see.
>
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Eric Blake <eblake <at> redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> tag 29377 notabug
>> thanks
>>
>> On 11/20/2017 11:55 PM, Peng Wu wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Currently the output of "ls -lh" for Simplified Chinese misses the "日"
>> > character for the date.
>> >
>> > It displays date as "11月 21", but in Simplified Chinese it should
>> > display
>> > "11月 21日".
>> >
>> > Maybe it also happens with Traditional Chinese and Japanese.
>> >
>> > After checked with gnome desktop translation, I wrote one patch.
>> > URL:
>> >
>> > https://l10n.gnome.org/POT/gnome-desktop.master/gnome-desktop.master.zh_CN.po
>>
>> Thanks for the report and the patch.  The translations for coreutils are
>> maintained by the translation project, and not upstream coreutils
>> proper; so I'm closing this bug in the coreutils database (once the
>> translation project includes your patch, coreutils will automatically
>> pick it up on the next release).  Meanwhile, your patch should be sent
>> to the Language-Team: mentioned in zh_CN.po (which I've cc'd) (see also
>> the X-Bugs: tag in that file, as well as the translation of the "Report
>> bugs to:" string that appears in localized 'date --help').
>>
>> >
>> > In the attachment, the patch add the "日" character.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >   Peng Wu
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
>> Red Hat, Inc.           +1-919-301-3266
>> Virtualization:  qemu.org | libvirt.org
>>
>



-- 
Yasuaki Taniguchi (谷口康明)
  yasuakit <at> gmail.com

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