From unknown Tue Aug 19 10:09:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#29350: 25.2; Emacs 25.3+ fails to start on Windows XP Resent-From: Uwe Siart Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 10:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 29350 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 29350@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.15110020074144 (code B ref -1); Sat, 18 Nov 2017 10:47:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2017 10:46:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45572 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eG0e6-00014m-Px for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 05:46:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48597) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eG0e4-00014a-UL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 05:46:45 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eG0dy-0003dR-LN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 05:46:39 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:34988) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eG0dy-0003dJ-HI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 05:46:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39563) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eG0dx-0004OS-0E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 05:46:38 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eG0dt-0003aX-Oy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 05:46:37 -0500 Received: from postout1.mail.lrz.de ([129.187.255.137]:50508) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eG0dt-0003XF-5r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 05:46:33 -0500 Received: from lxmhs51.srv.lrz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postout1.mail.lrz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3yfBVR4vGWzyVg for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 11:46:23 +0100 (CET) Authentication-Results: postout.lrz.de (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) reason="pass (just generated, assumed good)" header.d=tum.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tum.de; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:mime-version :message-id:date:date:subject:subject:from:from:received :received; s=postout; t=1511001982; bh=BFMy8gw4I09C4q0ob1hXK80S8 PZq6ucHBQZ8lR9D9AI=; b=ITA/wlOmevBw4fFdR4rx/r7XBVskvyVIgIDFFFl5j bx34ORJnJZ0is7zz05Zp+4vT6LV8rSoTH/dip7r+4/he97d/VbwBPGWX7CCExrih RMKbJagtFGfqz0X4d49PZeqkiNcYZDJfKjK6cu++HGRLjlhrucaKuqYoY+AnxjpQ +X7kKffWmTxl/Y7kB2qLP3Q8S6j/AGFd53xcvDgl+1ct8LbHFs27NMwTUbn8vd2Q Cpk+PKBvzdH9U01WlXMpeM2+LuUkS5TjxBWuzkvPa6TPjbJ8l74DzgKbYkXxb1Rn ohl/u/4UNUpBKQGFICe/RDyeBRoArt8gDvkZPDhO3wYoA== X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at lrz.de in lxmhs51.srv.lrz.de Received: from postout1.mail.lrz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by lxmhs51.srv.lrz.de (lxmhs51.srv.lrz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 20024) with LMTP id Rfsp5mgGcZhX for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 11:46:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from pegasus (o064.tum.vpn.lrz.de [129.187.212.64]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by postout1.mail.lrz.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3yfBVQ4lq7zyVM for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 11:46:22 +0100 (CET) From: Uwe Siart Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 11:46:08 +0100 Message-ID: <84vai7eufj.fsf@tum.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Emacs 25.3 and newer fails to start on a Win XP box. When clicking runemacs.exe I get an error that says that the procedure call "_time32" fails in msvcrt.dll. I don't see this with Emacs 25.2. I got that issue with ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/emacs-25.3-i686.zip and also with ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-26-snapshot-x86_64.zip and ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/emacs-27.0.50-snapsh= ot-i686.zip In GNU Emacs 25.2.1 (i686-w64-mingw32) of 2017-04-24 built on LAPHROAIG Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: 'configure --host=3Di686-w64-mingw32 --without-dbus --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-static -O2 -g3'' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS Important settings: value of $LANG: DEU locale-coding-system: cp1252 Major mode: Buffer Menu Minor modes in effect: icomplete-mode: t global-hi-lock-mode: t hi-lock-mode: t electric-pair-mode: t display-time-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t auto-insert-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: Mark set [3 times] Auto-saving...done Mark set [2 times] Auto-saving...done Mark set Sending... 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Features: (shadow emacsbug sendmail canlock thingatpt browse-url rfc1345 quail nnir sort ansi-color gnus-cite mail-extr qp gnus-bcklg gnus-async gnus-ml hl-line gnus-topic nndraft nnmh network-stream nsm auth-source eieio eieio-core starttls gnus-agent gnus-srvr gnus-score score-mode nnvirtual gnus-msg gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 mm-view mml-smime smime dig mailcap nntp gnus-cache gnus-sum gnus-group gnus-undo gnus-start gnus-cloud nnimap nnmail mail-source tls gnutls utf7 netrc nnoo parse-time gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range message idna dired format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epg mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader gnus-win gnus gnus-ems nnheader gnus-util mail-utils mm-util help-fns mail-prsvr tango-dark-theme icomplete hi-lock elec-pair time delsel finder-inf info tex-site package epg-config seq byte-opt bytecomp byte-compile cl-extra help-mode cconv autoinsert dired-sort-map server remember htmlfontify cus-edit easymenu cus-start cus-load wid-edit htmlize cl-seq cl boxquote cl-macs gv rect paren edmacro kmacro cl-loaddefs pcase cl-lib time-date mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp disp-table w32-win w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese charscript case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote w32notify w32 multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 8 235155 36632) (symbols 32 32968 0) (miscs 32 171 547) (strings 16 56705 7051) (string-bytes 1 1770981) (vectors 8 35242) (vector-slots 4 1409231 55822) (floats 8 435 393) (intervals 28 863 730) (buffers 520 35)) --=20 Dr.-Ing. Uwe Siart Chair of High-Frequency Engineering Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering Technical University of Munich (TUM) Arcisstr. 21, 80333 M=FCnchen, Germany Email: uwe.siart@tum.de Tel.: +49.89.289.23374 Fax: +49.89.289.23365 From unknown Tue Aug 19 10:09:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#29350: 25.2; Emacs 25.3+ fails to start on Windows XP Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 11:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29350 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Uwe Siart Cc: 29350@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 29350-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29350.151100600310266 (code B ref 29350); Sat, 18 Nov 2017 11:54:01 +0000 Received: (at 29350) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2017 11:53:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45626 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eG1gY-0002fW-Uk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 06:53:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:32791) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eG1gX-0002fJ-05 for 29350@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 06:53:21 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eG1gN-0007MM-9j for 29350@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 06:53:15 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55943) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eG1gN-0007MI-5y; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 06:53:11 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4679 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eG1gM-00043x-Cu; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 06:53:10 -0500 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 13:52:57 +0200 Message-Id: <83mv3jg5wm.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <84vai7eufj.fsf@tum.de> (message from Uwe Siart on Sat, 18 Nov 2017 11:46:08 +0100) References: <84vai7eufj.fsf@tum.de> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Uwe Siart > Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 11:46:08 +0100 > > Emacs 25.3 and newer fails to start on a Win XP box. When clicking > runemacs.exe I get an error that says that the procedure call "_time32" > fails in msvcrt.dll. > > I don't see this with Emacs 25.2. > > I got that issue with > > ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/emacs-25.3-i686.zip > > and also with > > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-26-snapshot-x86_64.zip > > and > > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/emacs-27.0.50-snapshot-i686.zip I'm guessing this is because MinGW64, whose headers and libraries are used to produce the 32-bit builds of Emacs on Windows, dropped the XP support some time ago. FWIW, mingw.org's MinGW still supports XP (and also Windows 9x), and we didn't decide to drop XP support in Emacs yet. 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Many thanks for fixing this. -- Uwe From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 30 12:00:17 2017 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Nov 2017 17:00:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38569 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eKSC9-0004Mu-HK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:00:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54829) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eKSC8-0004Mi-F4 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:00:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eKSBz-0003Er-KF for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:00:11 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34499) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eKSBz-0003El-Hx for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:00:07 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eKSBz-0004Uv-8v for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:00:07 -0500 Subject: control message for bug 29350 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.99.98) Message-Id: From: Glenn Morris Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:00:07 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) close 29350