From unknown Tue Sep 23 05:52:50 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#29332: 27.0.50; running under gdb Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 03:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 29332 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 29332@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.151088868929804 (code B ref -1); Fri, 17 Nov 2017 03:19:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2017 03:18:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44086 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFXAO-0007ke-Nc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:18:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55189) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFXAN-0007kE-7L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:18:07 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eFXAG-00062d-IK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:18:01 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:60938) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eFXAG-00062J-Eh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:18:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46072) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eFXAE-0001vy-Qe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:18:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eFXAC-0005uA-HN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:17:58 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37930) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eFXAC-0005tz-D3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:17:56 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eFXAB-0005W1-VN; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:17:56 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:17:55 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) I cd to src and type gdb emacs r and I get the error message there is no member named name I am using GDB version 7.7.1 which is in Trisquel 7. In principle I could install the latest GDB, but it would be a lot of work and I doubt it would make a difference. I think the bug is in src/.gdbinit. In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.23) of 2017-11-15 built on freetop Repository revision: 52d822f31bc7cb57694c1e209b2d02e5efb8f48c System Description: Trisquel GNU/Linux 7.0, Belenos Recent messages: Loading paren...done Loading view...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Note: file is write protected [4 times] Counting messages...done (No new mail has arrived) 0 new messages read ~/emacs-git/build-nov-15/src Configured using: 'configure 'CFLAGS=-O0 -g' --with-gnutls=no' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS NOTIFY LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK2 X11 Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: RMAIL Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t gpm-mouse-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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See https://stallman.org/skype.html. From unknown Tue Sep 23 05:52:50 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: rms@gnu.org Subject: bug#29332: closed (Re: bug#29332: 27.0.50; running under gdb) Message-ID: References: <83y3n5gqrn.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 29332 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 29332@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:11:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1510913463-2945-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1510913463-2945-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #29332: 27.0.50; running under gdb which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 29332@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 29332: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D29332 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1510913463-2945-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 29332-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2017 10:10:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44289 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFdbf-0000kh-KT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 05:10:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52669) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFdbe-0000kV-DY for 29332-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 05:10:42 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eFdbW-0002vQ-7B for 29332-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 05:10:37 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43682) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eFdbW-0002v2-36 for 29332-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 05:10:34 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2846 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eFdbJ-0000nU-35; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 05:10:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 12:10:04 +0200 Message-Id: <83y3n5gqrn.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:17:55 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#29332: 27.0.50; running under gdb References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29332-done Cc: 29332-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:17:55 -0500 > > I cd to src and type > > gdb emacs > > r > > and I get the error message > > there is no member named name > > I am using GDB version 7.7.1 which is in Trisquel 7. > In principle I could install the latest GDB, but it would be a lot of work > and I doubt it would make a difference. I think the bug is in src/.gdbinit. You are right. Fixed on the release branch with the changes below. commit 42c8768134dcfaaf08637e36fe478605c1957517 Author: Eli Zaretskii AuthorDate: Fri Nov 17 12:08:06 2017 +0200 Commit: Eli Zaretskii CommitDate: Fri Nov 17 12:08:06 2017 +0200 Fix .gdbinit following lisp.h changes * src/.gdbinit (xsymname, pwinx, pgx, xbuffer, xcar, xcdr, xlist) (xprintstr): Adapt to latest changes in Lisp object C structures. (Bug#29332) diff --git a/src/.gdbinit b/src/.gdbinit index 60f6348..48bb5df 100644 --- a/src/.gdbinit +++ b/src/.gdbinit @@ -78,7 +78,7 @@ end # Access the name of a symbol define xsymname xgetsym $arg0 - set $symname = $ptr->name + set $symname = $ptr->u.s.name end # Set up something to print out s-expressions. @@ -376,7 +376,7 @@ define pwinx xgetptr $w->buffer set $tem = (struct buffer *) $ptr xgetptr $tem->name_ - printf "%s", ((struct Lisp_String *) $ptr)->data + printf "%s", ((struct Lisp_String *) $ptr)->u.s.data printf "\n" xgetptr $w->start set $tem = (struct Lisp_Marker *) $ptr @@ -504,7 +504,7 @@ define pgx xgettype ($g.object) if ($type == Lisp_String) xgetptr $g.object - printf " str=0x%x[%d]", ((struct Lisp_String *)$ptr)->data, $g.charpos + printf " str=0x%x[%d]", ((struct Lisp_String *)$ptr)->u.s.data, $g.charpos else printf " pos=%d", $g.charpos end @@ -896,7 +896,7 @@ define xbuffer xgetptr $ print (struct buffer *) $ptr xgetptr $->name_ - output ((struct Lisp_String *) $ptr)->data + output ((struct Lisp_String *) $ptr)->u.s.data echo \n end document xbuffer @@ -935,7 +935,7 @@ end define xcar xgetptr $ xgettype $ - print/x ($type == Lisp_Cons ? ((struct Lisp_Cons *) $ptr)->car : 0) + print/x ($type == Lisp_Cons ? ((struct Lisp_Cons *) $ptr)->u.s.car : 0) end document xcar Assume that $ is an Emacs Lisp pair and print its car. @@ -944,7 +944,7 @@ end define xcdr xgetptr $ xgettype $ - print/x ($type == Lisp_Cons ? ((struct Lisp_Cons *) $ptr)->u.cdr : 0) + print/x ($type == Lisp_Cons ? ((struct Lisp_Cons *) $ptr)->u.s.u.cdr : 0) end document xcdr Assume that $ is an Emacs Lisp pair and print its cdr. @@ -957,9 +957,9 @@ define xlist set $nil = $ptr set $i = 0 while $cons != $nil && $i < 10 - p/x $cons->car + p/x $cons->u.s.car xpr - xgetptr $cons->u.cdr + xgetptr $cons->u.s.u.cdr set $cons = (struct Lisp_Cons *) $ptr set $i = $i + 1 printf "---\n" @@ -1072,13 +1072,13 @@ Print $ as a lisp object of any type. end define xprintstr - set $data = (char *) $arg0->data - set $strsize = ($arg0->size_byte < 0) ? ($arg0->size & ~ARRAY_MARK_FLAG) : $arg0->size_byte + set $data = (char *) $arg0->u.s.data + set $strsize = ($arg0->u.s.size_byte < 0) ? ($arg0->u.s.size & ~ARRAY_MARK_FLAG) : $arg0->u.s.size_byte # GDB doesn't like zero repetition counts if $strsize == 0 output "" else - output ($arg0->size > 1000) ? 0 : ($data[0])@($strsize) + output ($arg0->u.s.size > 1000) ? 0 : ($data[0])@($strsize) end end @@ -1255,7 +1255,7 @@ commands xsymname globals.f_Vinitial_window_system xgetptr $symname set $tem = (struct Lisp_String *) $ptr - set $tem = (char *) $tem->data + set $tem = (char *) $tem->u.s.data # If we are running in synchronous mode, we want a chance to look # around before Emacs exits. Perhaps we should put the break # somewhere else instead... ------------=_1510913463-2945-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2017 03:18:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44086 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFXAO-0007ke-Nc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:18:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55189) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFXAN-0007kE-7L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:18:07 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eFXAG-00062d-IK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:18:01 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:60938) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eFXAG-00062J-Eh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:18:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46072) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eFXAE-0001vy-Qe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:18:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eFXAC-0005uA-HN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:17:58 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37930) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eFXAC-0005tz-D3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:17:56 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eFXAB-0005W1-VN; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:17:56 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.0.50; running under gdb Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:17:55 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) I cd to src and type gdb emacs r and I get the error message there is no member named name I am using GDB version 7.7.1 which is in Trisquel 7. In principle I could install the latest GDB, but it would be a lot of work and I doubt it would make a difference. I think the bug is in src/.gdbinit. In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.23) of 2017-11-15 built on freetop Repository revision: 52d822f31bc7cb57694c1e209b2d02e5efb8f48c System Description: Trisquel GNU/Linux 7.0, Belenos Recent messages: Loading paren...done Loading view...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Note: file is write protected [4 times] Counting messages...done (No new mail has arrived) 0 new messages read ~/emacs-git/build-nov-15/src Configured using: 'configure 'CFLAGS=-O0 -g' --with-gnutls=no' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS NOTIFY LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK2 X11 Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: RMAIL Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t gpm-mouse-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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