From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:17 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#29313 <29313@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#29313 <29313@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Replace gnus-yes-or-no-p with yes-or-no-p? Reply-To: bug#29313 <29313@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 04:17:17 +0000 retitle 29313 Replace gnus-yes-or-no-p with yes-or-no-p? reassign 29313 emacs,gnus submitter 29313 Eric Abrahamsen severity 29313 normal tag 29313 wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 15 20:51:36 2017 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2017 01:51:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42363 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eF9L4-0003j1-T5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 20:51:36 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([50.56.99.223]:54033) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eF9L2-0003is-JQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 20:51:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (71-212-22-173.tukw.qwest.net [71.212.22.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9CFDFBFF4D for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 01:51:31 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1510797091; bh=/DAXHjKyVlyPXaBBMytCv96THZ/3OlEFUXHxhHjoXI4=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=MKpoiRTngMM/XjAZItiXUZJ90SmHa4yVCy8wA0hiDRihLdc3xvnLa1Hhor8NKuSkH eRR/BsD9PBcfk0rgSVXj09WFmIycZN+3JBKdf1RlXCmjb1zgis681T+KuVvGOMKVGV /6PbBT7LfQ0XJm6DvI3bDQwYEMhlgk/m4CMOw7YY= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Subject: Replace gnus-yes-or-no-p with yes-or-no-p? X-Debbugs-Version: 5.13 X-Debbugs-Package: emacs,gnus Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 17:49:47 -0800 Message-ID: <8760abvvpg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Gnus has the following defined: (defun gnus-y-or-n-p (prompt) (prog1 (y-or-n-p prompt) (message ""))) (defun gnus-yes-or-no-p (prompt) (prog1 (yes-or-no-p prompt) (message ""))) I wonder if I'm missing something here: for the life of me I can't see how the behavior is different from the built-ins. The built-ins don't put anything in the minibuffer, why would we'd have to blank it? Is this historical? I'm putting this on my list of little Gnus tweaks to eventually commit, unless someone points out why I shouldn't. Gnus v5.13 GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 5, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.25) of 2017-11-09 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 15 21:00:52 2017 Received: (at 29313) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2017 02:00:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42371 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eF9U4-0003yr-MN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 21:00:52 -0500 Received: from mail-io0-f181.google.com ([209.85.223.181]:36256) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eF9U3-0003yP-CW for 29313@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 21:00:51 -0500 Received: by mail-io0-f181.google.com with SMTP id n79so3669013ion.3 for <29313@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 18:00:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=Yirca6dLC69dtLCivNMhCiKALU5d8r1BJbofQQr1pFQ=; b=m0fL47sXaARhP4PbA/xYdh9ypbCzukbmZHpb7p7IEacKDS4KIYuSyPLzVYihIt30HV CiX8f7+sV+Oz4scNd9YoJNBiELEioaamHnaJqGIySArLhmJN2JunSpnTH6YJUWPpnOWh 2YUOovLpECwwyTheaJBcl80BBYy8VTHmyC3JKM1NZk0xsDqs1O14BkjkLRdweCvF1ckS /YbynQGms6sGMHXBccv0VxfLmqo7zEjLGvohKji9kTUBYAhekYvFDgxb2Z+W2pK8bppK s5N8pj8ZVE2D9HxNyINU2ecxf8EHe+LOTE8YXuXo1LjykOSKSIFQfxd1ZJFSXroplPpZ eRTg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=Yirca6dLC69dtLCivNMhCiKALU5d8r1BJbofQQr1pFQ=; b=bq41Z9HUxoHdk5p3eqkgXxmg8Iqa1Y0vk2ErrZptxfwNo+NY/nZcnOEELuSNog/OXx uFat8n6n6+MWTfw4o8+v3Hizsfu/hb5I68rd2q4tVZM/WY5d0Tc5PddadQfPeyp/+euy Wwqb9dv6jUHjg/fI01PdrP2QetoNOMYOkE917478ndbzeLuu3aHOsf5D9l9zFDYnJDVA /b0/ROmIhukNoUJc4pKr+D2XsOTiITvmridU715KoDdjK6jnuKmHDp3HXqPf6SIxkRB4 t8OTlf2H92nZOIMNxVp+Qs5uOvEM0jUOrU+VucproGfJ3NqhiHHErSgPF5lVzCIRJVeG aXfg== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX5ZGM2IoRz67LnPwfxi6FozLothbRWIf8ZxVSUu8BBCRJTxzOyb xpwNYPeg4ecabkI55WjaIdQz0Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMY3z2FHNZJuvO6wv4+zUWMiBb6CDVFw9Tn68d6E8witE94eKrShSfs1wTdMJ+/O5hxj0lkQbw== X-Received: by 10.107.112.3 with SMTP id l3mr67063ioc.105.1510797645091; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 18:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebian ([45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id p10sm8271ioe.19.2017.11.15.18.00.43 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 15 Nov 2017 18:00:44 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#29313: Replace gnus-yes-or-no-p with yes-or-no-p? References: <8760abvvpg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 21:00:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8760abvvpg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Wed, 15 Nov 2017 17:49:47 -0800") Message-ID: <87lgj70ypg.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29313 Cc: 29313@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Gnus has the following defined: > > (defun gnus-y-or-n-p (prompt) > (prog1 > (y-or-n-p prompt) > (message ""))) > > (defun gnus-yes-or-no-p (prompt) > (prog1 > (yes-or-no-p prompt) > (message ""))) > > I wonder if I'm missing something here: for the life of me I can't see > how the behavior is different from the built-ins. The built-ins don't > put anything in the minibuffer, why would we'd have to blank it? Is this > historical? They put the prompt in the minibuffer, don't they? (not sure why it's important to blank that out though) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 15 21:12:57 2017 Received: (at 29313) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2017 02:12:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42379 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eF9ff-0004KE-Qd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 21:12:57 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([50.56.99.223]:60937) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eF9fd-0004K5-Sw for 29313@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 21:12:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (71-212-22-173.tukw.qwest.net [71.212.22.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B67AC013B; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 02:12:48 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1510798368; bh=pXEB1zEC07adqnQ7Oc5/3bVe7ORmeATuZTTqOFFsTm8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=QDmjoXPQW2tFd9jbl63kl/92VhmjOjkeyrjDR7N1W9MhUmKb1MHkWjJjZCm10W5U/ 58wjU6nSJPyQq2F0uunhJiAmiHGjl4E7klTCWo1b7WkoSNFmxp/Whmx8qK6yPqH0i5 QivLPDG18h84hT3ZRAf77EaqsKds3ae+BJUKF3Qs= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Noam Postavsky Subject: Re: bug#29313: Replace gnus-yes-or-no-p with yes-or-no-p? References: <8760abvvpg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lgj70ypg.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 18:11:04 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87lgj70ypg.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (Noam Postavsky's message of "Wed, 15 Nov 2017 21:00:43 -0500") Message-ID: <87wp2rug5j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29313 Cc: 29313@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Noam Postavsky writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Gnus has the following defined: >> >> (defun gnus-y-or-n-p (prompt) >> (prog1 >> (y-or-n-p prompt) >> (message ""))) >> >> (defun gnus-yes-or-no-p (prompt) >> (prog1 >> (yes-or-no-p prompt) >> (message ""))) >> >> I wonder if I'm missing something here: for the life of me I can't see >> how the behavior is different from the built-ins. The built-ins don't >> put anything in the minibuffer, why would we'd have to blank it? Is this >> historical? > > They put the prompt in the minibuffer, don't they? (not sure why it's > important to blank that out though) Oh! The prompt is *left* in the minibuffer. Of course I figure that out moments after making the bug report. Well, at least the functions actually *do* something. Whether that's worth doing is another question, but I'll leave it for now. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 15 23:01:45 2017 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2017 04:01:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42418 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFBN1-0006r0-Tq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:01:44 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([50.56.99.223]:47070) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFBN0-0006qs-0a for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:01:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (71-212-22-173.tukw.qwest.net [71.212.22.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EA6D6C014D for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 04:01:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1510804897; bh=vnibiyaZrUFg3MkU326HKhMSoyF1WheD6oJPIN46mTU=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=mHjyW8ZUCQ3wEIIoDDzn6m1Be1fV5fs1lQa3q7Ckn/38thEmCXSyVCVhSo82Ri/i3 ziO6+njfe0iyicm5mzUZkI5wQbs9X6+y2LJa16D5cjb1LEs3214+nyrbSuYpY5eW6t TLHt37IUat/p12OaHArUC9wngVdSD7hrUHvVgalI= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#29313: Replace gnus-yes-or-no-p with yes-or-no-p? References: <8760abvvpg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lgj70ypg.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87wp2rug5j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:59:52 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87wp2rug5j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Wed, 15 Nov 2017 18:11:04 -0800") Message-ID: <871skyvpon.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) tags 29313 wontfix close 29313 From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:17 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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