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29290@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:45:14 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46780) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eEOPf-00048Q-LN; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:45:11 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eEOPe-0004x8-RX; Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:45:11 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: myglc2 Subject: Re: bug#29290: 25.3; bug-gnu-emacs archive web search fails to find matching bugs References: <86h8txpy47.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spook: FMD Border Patrol al-Qaida Reno interception Abu X-Ran: [PV(bKl80vl~82-aw(Zh}ezJ=c'PYzkwD`HxFg:ir=!_y0;'lcB']Tnu.&-\Q+502[_%}G X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:45:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <86h8txpy47.fsf@gmail.com> (myglc2@gmail.com's message of "Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:17:28 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29290 Cc: 29290@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) myglc2 wrote: > To see an example, search bug-gnu-emacs for 'server-name', e.g., > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=server-name&submit=Search%21&idxname=bug-gnu-emacs&max=20&result=normal&sort=score > > This gives 20 hits non of which is ... > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/23576 > [documentation] 'Using Emacs as a Server': 'M-x set-variable RET server-name RET foo RET' lists.gnu.org is general GNU infrastructure not maintained by anyone here at Emacs. I'm not sure what the right contact address is; perhaps mailman at gnu.org. 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[73.167.118.254]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q32sm11860604qtg.61.2017.11.13.16.12.37 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 13 Nov 2017 16:12:37 -0800 (PST) References: <86h8txpy47.fsf@gmail.com> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.18; emacs 25.3.1 From: myglc2 To: Glenn Morris , mailman@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#29290: 25.3; bug-gnu-emacs archive web search fails to find matching bugs In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:12:36 -0500 Message-ID: <86fu9hpvkb.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29290 Cc: 29290@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) It seems like the bug-gnu-emacs archive is not being properly indexed/searched. Please see forwarded emacs bug#29290 below ... On 11/13/2017 at 23:45 Glenn Morris writes: > myglc2 wrote: > >> To see an example, search bug-gnu-emacs for 'server-name', e.g., >> >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=server-name&submit=Search%21&idxname=bug-gnu-emacs&max=20&result=normal&sort=score >> >> This gives 20 hits non of which is ... >> >> https://debbugs.gnu.org/23576 >> [documentation] 'Using Emacs as a Server': 'M-x set-variable RET server-name RET foo RET' > > lists.gnu.org is general GNU infrastructure not maintained by anyone > here at Emacs. I'm not sure what the right contact address is; perhaps > mailman at gnu.org. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 14 10:18:41 2017 Received: (at 29290) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2017 15:18:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40314 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEcz2-00016B-VV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 10:18:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39379) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEcz2-00015x-6o for 29290@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 10:18:40 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eEcyt-0001qg-1Y for 29290@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 10:18:35 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:32828) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eEcys-0001qO-UQ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 10:18:30 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3441 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eEcys-0000XL-Bn; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 10:18:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:18:39 +0200 Message-Id: <837euslwhc.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: myglc2 In-reply-to: <86h8txpy47.fsf@gmail.com> (message from myglc2 on Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:17:28 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#29290: 25.3; bug-gnu-emacs archive web search fails to find matching bugs References: <86h8txpy47.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29290 Cc: 29290@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: myglc2 > Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:17:28 -0500 > > To see an example, search bug-gnu-emacs for 'server-name', e.g., > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=server-name&submit=Search%21&idxname=bug-gnu-emacs&max=20&result=normal&sort=score > > This gives 20 hits non of which is ... > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/23576 > [documentation] ‘Using Emacs as a Server’: ‘M-x set-variable RET server-name RET foo RET’ My suggestion is to use the search engine of the bug tracker, at https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/search.cgi It is more sophisticated and does find the above bug report. The reasons why the mailman search didn't find the report could be a few. One of them could be the way the Subject line was formatted (download the bug report in mbox format and see for yourself). Or it could be some other snafu. But you are advised to try the above search engine before concluding that a bug for some issue doesn't exist. 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[73.167.118.254]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y30sm12732304qtd.48.2017.11.14.09.42.37 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 14 Nov 2017 09:42:37 -0800 (PST) References: <86h8txpy47.fsf@gmail.com> <837euslwhc.fsf@gnu.org> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.18; emacs 25.3.1 From: myglc2 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#29290: 25.3; bug-gnu-emacs archive web search fails to find matching bugs In-reply-to: <837euslwhc.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:42:36 -0500 Message-ID: <86d14kpxir.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29290 Cc: 29290@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) On 11/14/2017 at 15:18 Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: myglc2 >> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:17:28 -0500 >> >> To see an example, search bug-gnu-emacs for 'server-name', e.g., >> >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=server-name&submit=Search%21&idxname=bug-gnu-emacs&max=20&result=normal&sort=score >> >> This gives 20 hits non of which is ... >> >> https://debbugs.gnu.org/23576 >> [documentation] ‘Using Emacs as a Server’: ‘M-x set-variable RET >> server-name RET foo RET’ > My suggestion is to use the search engine of the bug tracker, at > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/search.cgi > > It is more sophisticated and does find the above bug report. I tried the link above. It takes an unnatural amount of effort to find the bug between the garbled titles and summary lines. > The reasons why the mailman search didn't find the report could be a > few. One of them could be the way the Subject line was formatted > (download the bug report in mbox format and see for yourself). Or it > could be some other snafu. But aren't you alarmed it works so poorly? > But you are advised to try the above > search engine before concluding that a bug for some issue doesn't > exist. Sorry, I didn't see that. Where is this advised? 'M-x report-emacs-bug' mentions debbugs.gnu.org but does not provide any specific advice. The first google hit for "emacs bug" is https://debbugs.gnu.org So, OK, both put you on debbugs.gnu.org. Now if you search the page for "emacs" ... ... the first hit is the aforementioned mailman search ;-( ... the second hit is https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=emacs;max-bugs=100;base-order=1;bug-rev=1 ... which I can't get to find the bug ;-( So, bottom line, 1) if you _don't want_ people to go to mailman search please _remove the 1st link_ on debbugs.gnu.org 2) if you want people to go to the search link you gave me, please _edit the 2nd link_ debbugs.gnu.org 3) If you want average users to use https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/search.cgi to pre-chew bug reports please to improve its usability. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 14 13:53:32 2017 Received: (at 29290) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2017 18:53:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40530 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEgKy-0008TY-9V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:53:32 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42379) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEgKx-0008TN-Gy for 29290@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:53:31 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eEgKp-0005vX-9E for 29290@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:53:26 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37829) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eEgKp-0005vJ-5u; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:53:23 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3950 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eEgKn-0006vU-7N; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:53:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 20:53:22 +0200 Message-Id: <83lgj8k7z1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: myglc2 In-reply-to: <86d14kpxir.fsf@gmail.com> (message from myglc2 on Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:42:36 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#29290: 25.3; bug-gnu-emacs archive web search fails to find matching bugs References: <86h8txpy47.fsf@gmail.com> <837euslwhc.fsf@gnu.org> <86d14kpxir.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29290 Cc: 29290@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: myglc2 > Cc: 29290@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:42:36 -0500 > > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/search.cgi > > > > It is more sophisticated and does find the above bug report. > > I tried the link above. It takes an unnatural amount of effort to find > the bug between the garbled titles and summary lines. "Garbled"? What do you see there, exactly, and what browser did you use to do that? I see nothing garbled, everything is perfectly legible and clear. I wonder what did you do differently and what did you see. After getting to the above search page, I type "server-name" into the "Phrase" field, select "Order by Submission date", in "descending (number or date)" order, change "Max results" to 100, and click "Search". Did you do something else? > > The reasons why the mailman search didn't find the report could be a > > few. One of them could be the way the Subject line was formatted > > (download the bug report in mbox format and see for yourself). Or it > > could be some other snafu. > > But aren't you alarmed it works so poorly? Alarmed? no. Searching for a particular discussion is never easy for me. > > But you are advised to try the above > > search engine before concluding that a bug for some issue doesn't > > exist. > > Sorry, I didn't see that. Where is this advised? In my email. > The first google hit for "emacs bug" is https://debbugs.gnu.org > > So, OK, both put you on debbugs.gnu.org. Now if you search the page for > "emacs" ... > > ... the first hit is the aforementioned mailman search ;-( > > ... the second hit is > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=emacs;max-bugs=100;base-order=1;bug-rev=1 > > ... which I can't get to find the bug ;-( I see none of what you see, sorry. It's as if we were in two different worlds. https://debbugs.gnu.org/ has a few links to usage notes, package maintainers, and other not-so relevant stuff, then a few fields to use for searching bugs by their numbers, then "General Search", which I never user, and lastly "Advanced Search", which is what I suggested to click. How come what you see is so different? > So, bottom line, > > 1) if you _don't want_ people to go to mailman search please _remove the > 1st link_ on debbugs.gnu.org > > 2) if you want people to go to the search link you gave me, please _edit > the 2nd link_ debbugs.gnu.org > > 3) If you want average users to use > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/search.cgi to pre-chew bug reports please > to improve its usability. I don't understand what you are talking about, sorry. 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[73.167.118.254]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h36sm12997233qtd.69.2017.11.14.12.41.02 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:41:03 -0800 (PST) References: <86h8txpy47.fsf@gmail.com> <837euslwhc.fsf@gnu.org> <86d14kpxir.fsf@gmail.com> <83lgj8k7z1.fsf@gnu.org> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.18; emacs 25.3.1 From: myglc2 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#29290: 25.3; bug-gnu-emacs archive web search fails to find matching bugs In-reply-to: <83lgj8k7z1.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:41:02 -0500 Message-ID: <86bmk4pp9d.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29290 Cc: 29290@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) On 11/14/2017 at 18:53 Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: myglc2 >> Cc: 29290@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:42:36 -0500 >> >> > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/search.cgi >> > >> > It is more sophisticated and does find the above bug report. >> >> I tried the link above. It takes an unnatural amount of effort to find >> the bug between the garbled titles and summary lines. > > "Garbled"? What do you see there, exactly, and what browser did you > use to do that? I see nothing garbled, everything is perfectly > legible and clear. I wonder what did you do differently and what did > you see. Using Safari on Macos on https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/search.cgi, when I enter "server-name AND set-variable" and look in the results for 23576, I find ... #23576: Re: bug#23576: [documentation] =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98Using?= Emacs as a Package: emacs Severity: minor; Sent by: Eli Zaretskii at Wed, 18 May 2016 22:53:33 +0300 Received: (at 23576-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2016 19:53:50 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bou . . . s as a =?utf-8?Q?Server=E2=80=99=3A_=E2=80=98M-x?= set-variable RET server-name RET foo =?utf-8?Q?RET=E2=80=99?= R . . . ach one a unique “server name”, using the variable server-name. For > example, M-x set-variable RET server-name R . . . ode/emacs/Emacs-Server.html > > First of all, ‘M-x set-variable RET server-name RET foo RET' just does > not work, . . . rning “Value ‘foo' does not match type string of > server-name”. It actually should be ‘M-x set-variable RET serv I call this "garbled" because it is so mangled by escape that the title is uninformative and the paragraph is unreadable. It looks the same in Chrome. It looks only a bit better in 'M-x eww' ... * #23576: Re: bug#23576: [documentation] =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98Using?= Emacs as a Package: emacs Severity: minor; Sent by: Eli Zaretskii at Wed, 18 May 2016 22:53:33 +0300 Received: (at 23576-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2016 19:53:50 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bou . . . s as a =?utf-8?Q?Server=E2=80=99=3A_=E2=80=98M-x?= set-variable RET server-name RET foo =?utf-8?Q?RET=E2=80=99?= R . . . ach one a unique “server name”, using the variable server-name. For > example, M-x set-variable RET server-name R . . . ode/emacs/Emacs-Server.html > > First of all, ‘M-x set-variable RET server-name RET foo RET' just does > not work, . . . rning “Value ‘foo' does not match type string of > server-name”. It actually should be ‘M-x set-variable RET serv Am I being too harsh? ;-) > > After getting to the above search page, I type "server-name" into the > "Phrase" field, select "Order by Submission date", in "descending > (number or date)" order, change "Max results" to 100, and click > "Search". Did you do something else? No, the page works that way for me too. >> > The reasons why the mailman search didn't find the report could be a >> > few. One of them could be the way the Subject line was formatted >> > (download the bug report in mbox format and see for yourself). Or it >> > could be some other snafu. >> >> But aren't you alarmed it works so poorly? > > Alarmed? no. Searching for a particular discussion is never easy for > me. > Ouch! Search is the great success story of the the 20th century, but only when you can read the results ;-) > >> > But you are advised to try the above >> > search engine before concluding that a bug for some issue doesn't >> > exist. >> >> Sorry, I didn't see that. Where is this advised? > > In my email. OH, thanks. I thought you were saying I had failed to see something. > >> The first google hit for "emacs bug" is https://debbugs.gnu.org >> >> So, OK, both put you on debbugs.gnu.org. Now if you search the page for >> "emacs" ... >> >> ... the first hit is the aforementioned mailman search ;-( >> >> ... the second hit is >> >> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=emacs;max-bugs=100;base-order=1;bug-rev=1 >> >> ... which I can't get to find the bug ;-( > > I see none of what you see, sorry. It's as if we were in two > different worlds. https://debbugs.gnu.org/ has a few links to usage > notes, package maintainers, and other not-so relevant stuff, then a > few fields to use for searching bugs by their numbers, then "General > Search", which I never user, and lastly "Advanced Search", which is > what I suggested to click. How come what you see is so different? > No we see the same thing but I am talking about some of the what you are calling "not-so relevant stuff" ;-) Please look for the links on https://debbugs.gnu.org/ with "emacs" in their title. You will see links to ... 1) https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs 2) https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=emacs;max-bugs=100;base-order=1;bug-rev=1 These send your emacs users with bugs to report to places that you don't recommend that they go so I am saying please change them ... >> So, bottom line, >> >> 1) if you _don't want_ people to go to mailman search please _remove the >> 1st link_ on debbugs.gnu.org >> >> 2) if you want people to go to the search link you gave me, please _edit >> the 2nd link_ debbugs.gnu.org >> >> 3) If you want average users to use >> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/search.cgi to pre-chew bug reports please >> to improve its usability. > > I don't understand what you are talking about, sorry. So I tried again. HTH - George From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 14 16:15:22 2017 Received: (at 29290) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2017 21:15:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40635 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEiYE-0003Rp-72 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:15:22 -0500 Received: from havoc.proulx.com ([96.88.95.61]:55025) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEiYC-0003Rd-5m for 29290@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:15:20 -0500 Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323CC7CF; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:15:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67FE217E0; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:15:13 -0700 (MST) Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CDA912DC5C; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:15:13 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:15:13 -0700 From: Bob Proulx To: myglc2 Subject: Re: bug#29290: 25.3; bug-gnu-emacs archive web search fails to find matching bugs Message-ID: <20171114140224473592690@bob.proulx.com> References: <86h8txpy47.fsf@gmail.com> <86fu9hpvkb.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <86fu9hpvkb.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170609 (1.8.3) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29290 Cc: Glenn Morris , 29290@debbugs.gnu.org, mailman@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) On 11/13/2017 at 23:45 Glenn Morris writes: > myglc2 wrote: >> To see an example, search bug-gnu-emacs for 'server-name', e.g., >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=server-name&submit=Search%21&idxname=bug-gnu-emacs&max=20&result=normal&sort=score >> This gives 20 hits non of which is ... >> https://debbugs.gnu.org/23576 >> [documentation] 'Using Emacs as a Server': 'M-x set-variable RET server-name RET foo RET' Let me refine the report a little bit. Here is the search: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=server-name&submit=Search%21&idxname=bug-gnu-emacs&max=1000&result=normal&sort=score But it does not locate this message which contains that search string: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2016-05/msg00923.html From: Dmitry Alexandrov Subject: bug#23576: [documentation] ‘Using Emacs as a Server’: ‘M-x set-variable RET server-name RET foo RET’ Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 22:25:38 +0300 > lists.gnu.org is general GNU infrastructure not maintained by anyone > here at Emacs. I'm not sure what the right contact address is; perhaps > mailman at gnu.org. This is a good address for the report. FSF sysadmin is on this list. Bob From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 14 17:26:45 2017 Received: (at 29290) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2017 22:26:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40710 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEjfI-00073n-EB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:26:45 -0500 Received: from li.iankelling.org ([72.14.176.105]:42316 helo=mail.iankelling.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEjIJ-0004b1-QA for 29290@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:03:00 -0500 Received: from ian by mail.iankelling.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eEjIH-0001jY-BO; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:02:57 -0500 References: <86h8txpy47.fsf@gmail.com> <86fu9hpvkb.fsf@gmail.com> <20171114140224473592690@bob.proulx.com> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.19; emacs 26.0.50 From: Ian Kelling To: Bob Proulx Subject: Re: bug#29290: 25.3; bug-gnu-emacs archive web search fails to find matching bugs In-reply-to: <20171114140224473592690@bob.proulx.com> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:02:57 -0500 Message-ID: <87shdgldri.fsf@x2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29290 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:26:42 -0500 Cc: 29290@debbugs.gnu.org, Glenn Morris , myglc2 , mailman@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) More info, no result on that message searching for the bug number, but the next bug number works fine. Not found https://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=23576&submit=Search%21&idxname=bug-gnu-emacs&max=100&result=normal&sort=score Found: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=23577&submit=Search%21&idxname=bug-gnu-emacs&max=100&result=normal&sort=score I'll root around in the documentation and on the server until I figure out whats up. -- Ian Kelling | Senior Systems Administrator, Free Software Foundation GPG Key: B125 F60B 7B28 7FF6 A2B7 DF8F 170A F0E2 9542 95DF https://fsf.org | https://gnu.org From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 14 17:30:31 2017 Received: (at 29290) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2017 22:30:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40719 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEjix-0007Au-E4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:30:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53716) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEjiw-0007Ai-4L for 29290@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:30:30 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eEjiq-0004m5-7Q for 29290@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:30:24 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42730) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eEjim-0004jJ-Va; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:30:21 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eEjim-0008H9-7h; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:30:20 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Ian Kelling Subject: Re: bug#29290: 25.3; bug-gnu-emacs archive web search fails to find matching bugs References: <86h8txpy47.fsf@gmail.com> <86fu9hpvkb.fsf@gmail.com> <20171114140224473592690@bob.proulx.com> <87shdgldri.fsf@x2> X-Spook: CBNRC ATF assassinate MS13 wire transfer Chobetsu X-Ran: hIE0>?6~1:t6_@!gLa-VQvy,Gnv6-ld{`H9&",vV@qu{]'~&DZTjPN!%;9lKyR}2xtS]-C X-Hue: yellow X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:30:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87shdgldri.fsf@x2> (Ian Kelling's message of "Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:02:57 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29290 Cc: 29290@debbugs.gnu.org, myglc2 , mailman@gnu.org, Bob Proulx X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Thanks! While you are here... :) I often see it said that the search on http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/ is very messed up. Search results seem to have nothing to do with the query. As a random example, search for "idempotent" (but anything will do). I get 20 results, none (?) of which seem to contain the search term. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 14 22:34:13 2017 Received: (at 29290) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2017 03:34:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40836 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEoSr-0005pe-Bg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:34:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57680) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEoSq-0005pP-6r for 29290@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:34:12 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eEoSh-0001Nl-QV for 29290@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:34:07 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47330) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eEoSh-0001NX-Mo; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:34:03 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4416 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eEoSh-00045W-1v; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:34:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 05:34:13 +0200 Message-Id: <83fu9gjjuy.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: myglc2 In-reply-to: <86bmk4pp9d.fsf@gmail.com> (message from myglc2 on Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:41:02 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#29290: 25.3; bug-gnu-emacs archive web search fails to find matching bugs References: <86h8txpy47.fsf@gmail.com> <837euslwhc.fsf@gnu.org> <86d14kpxir.fsf@gmail.com> <83lgj8k7z1.fsf@gnu.org> <86bmk4pp9d.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29290 Cc: 29290@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: myglc2 > Cc: 29290@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:41:02 -0500 > > #23576: Re: bug#23576: [documentation] =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98Using?= Emacs That's not "garbled", that's the RFC 2047 encoded subject line, as originally produced by the MUA of the person who reported the bug. > I call this "garbled" because it is so mangled by escape that the title > is uninformative and the paragraph is unreadable. You should look at the highlighted matches for the search strings, and determine whether this is what you are looking for. > Am I being too harsh? ;-) Definitely. > Please look for the links on https://debbugs.gnu.org/ with "emacs" in > their title. > > You will see links to ... > > 1) https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs > > 2) https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=emacs;max-bugs=100;base-order=1;bug-rev=1 > > These send your emacs users with bugs to report to places that you don't > recommend that they go so I am saying please change them ... I see no reason to change that. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 15 06:47:20 2017 Received: (at 29290) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2017 11:47:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41044 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEwA4-0000RE-Hx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 06:47:20 -0500 Received: from mail-io0-f178.google.com ([209.85.223.178]:40187) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEwA2-0000R0-U3 for 29290@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 06:47:19 -0500 Received: by mail-io0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 71so1277506ior.7 for <29290@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 03:47:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9J6caDPxLC+Vcp/As17RAEDlSWYDfLzZyw9a65ifbE8=; b=pzxsIofe9TdaI3bG9ofTAHlmHafAQSm6LILHJA5LQLPa7XYnIODd56hIgffs9WJLaT a+A+1wkrbCHTcQbT4Z01upV4jaoChcrenTs/2eTSx1NSbWxz7cZoU/rqz+XEawqQkJfn PWzmBsUM9ZjJzh1Xla1CrSQHdHFq/w9vrTZJf2Ed1xUi4BRkBItEeDEPRgg/Wqu7bOOi X3RK6q5zEXHwnYLJUXR3e9CtR8E1DXievxmV1+7JcQo91MvHGxXlHTVoX/ISy0Y/QAqc fAFTRpG+0O/S4O35Sf4pFvcrcfZlFHwZ/Ye3/PRIYzR9nhTF7PgYRrEV+BfCuue8S9Kv fgWQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9J6caDPxLC+Vcp/As17RAEDlSWYDfLzZyw9a65ifbE8=; b=jfveNlcceBXt61YTmtArTtbo3zVFy9JHDTDvNX0Xdl0lrAoOozthQuk9bi6SC2kFFN AKpUiTrtRxae9C2yirjb7gehjxfduODsfwQo2DGquhFWM9YfESclhgtyke1n0+HS4cUm jFAfysJcB+85MkKhpaYGGEbC29u8xOCHzR5eR12zvWH47mSTJeESI68jTUQoT7/dCqG5 SlC43DqwLdvKX4Bwm7N1YP2owIzOYLTk8o/4YZh4zrZuBtZ/4N66Ht325le9TiZRrhck bkIjOo5Pm8kMiPGJhThUHKNScix5YC4GJ+iTLQqEIw0RmsG7k4ndjg97RMJgjaPqvvUC Uh2g== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX7l/Io07CSmNVmUyNiGUkSjAbu50pld8cU3r2pvTrQHTKIV5KVD xexnvkM5Thx/4S+NNiIOwDFwIQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMad+ucOonQ4ud02ZCAgc5PdfpldeticsPLjjDHGfJyywxsMjs2Us8Sf2F1ydHkt5LGovAH19A== X-Received: by 10.107.13.134 with SMTP id 128mr8997697ion.160.1510746433014; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 03:47:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebian ([45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id r65sm8315147ith.3.2017.11.15.03.47.11 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 15 Nov 2017 03:47:12 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#29290: 25.3; bug-gnu-emacs archive web search fails to find matching bugs References: <86h8txpy47.fsf@gmail.com> <837euslwhc.fsf@gnu.org> <86d14kpxir.fsf@gmail.com> <83lgj8k7z1.fsf@gnu.org> <86bmk4pp9d.fsf@gmail.com> <83fu9gjjuy.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 06:47:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83fu9gjjuy.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 15 Nov 2017 05:34:13 +0200") Message-ID: <87vaib2281.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29290 Cc: 29290@debbugs.gnu.org, myglc2 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: myglc2 >> Cc: 29290@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:41:02 -0500 >>=20 >> #23576: Re: bug#23576: [documentation] =3D?utf-8?Q?=3DE2=3D80=3D98Using?= =3D Emacs > > That's not "garbled", that's the RFC 2047 encoded subject line, as > originally produced by the MUA of the person who reported the bug. It's not very human friendly though. There's also some mojibake from the fancy quotes: one a unique =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93server name=C3=A2=E2=82=AC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojibake Mojibake (=E6=96=87=E5=AD=97=E5=8C=96=E3=81=91) (IPA: [mod=CD=A1=CA=91i= bake]; lit. "character transformation"), from the Japanese =E6=96=87=E5=AD=97 (moji) "character" + =E5=8C=96=E3= =81=91 (bake, pronounced "bah-keh") "transform", is the garbled text that is the result of text being decoded using an unintended character encoding PS I would find that search much more usable if it coalesced matches to the same bug; as it is, you typically have to scroll past a lot of repeats for long bug threads. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 15 12:44:47 2017 Received: (at 29290) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2017 17:44:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42081 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eF1jz-0004RB-7M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 12:44:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51287) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eF1jx-0004Qz-ID for 29290@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 12:44:45 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eF1jp-0001lg-Dy for 29290@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 12:44:40 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33279) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eF1jp-0001lc-A4; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 12:44:37 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4837 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eF1jo-0005sh-0R; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 12:44:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:44:44 +0200 Message-Id: <83bmk3jv1v.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Noam Postavsky In-reply-to: <87vaib2281.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (message from Noam Postavsky on Wed, 15 Nov 2017 06:47:10 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#29290: 25.3; bug-gnu-emacs archive web search fails to find matching bugs References: <86h8txpy47.fsf@gmail.com> <837euslwhc.fsf@gnu.org> <86d14kpxir.fsf@gmail.com> <83lgj8k7z1.fsf@gnu.org> <86bmk4pp9d.fsf@gmail.com> <83fu9gjjuy.fsf@gnu.org> <87vaib2281.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29290 Cc: 29290@debbugs.gnu.org, myglc2@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Noam Postavsky > Cc: myglc2 , 29290@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 06:47:10 -0500 > > >> #23576: Re: bug#23576: [documentation] =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98Using?= Emacs > > > > That's not "garbled", that's the RFC 2047 encoded subject line, as > > originally produced by the MUA of the person who reported the bug. > > It's not very human friendly though. There's also some mojibake from > the fancy quotes: > > one a unique “server name†Two more reasons not to use curly quotes in email, I guess. > PS I would find that search much more usable if it coalesced matches to > the same bug; as it is, you typically have to scroll past a lot of > repeats for long bug threads. You are assuming people look for bugs, but that doesn't have to be the case. They could look for something mentioned tangentially, or just in part of the bug discussion. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 30 12:15:22 2017 Received: (at 29290) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Nov 2017 17:15:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38609 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eKSQi-00053C-EE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:15:20 -0500 Received: from rt2p.gnu.org ([74.94.156.212]:55010 helo=rt.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eKSQh-0004xt-5r for 29290@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:15:19 -0500 Received: from www-data by rt.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eKSQb-0008PE-N3; Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:15:13 -0500 Subject: [gnu.org #1252961] Re: bug#29290: 25.3; bug-gnu-emacs archive web search fails to find matching bugs From: "Ian Kelling via RT" In-Reply-To: <86fu9hpvkb.fsf@gmail.com> References: <86h8txpy47.fsf@gmail.com> <86fu9hpvkb.fsf@gmail.com> Message-ID: X-RT-Loop-Prevention: gnu.org X-RT-Ticket: gnu.org #1252961 X-Managed-BY: RT 4.2.13-5-gc649048 (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/) X-RT-Originator: iank@fsf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-RT-Original-Encoding: utf-8 Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:15:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I regenerated the search index and the searches mentioned in bug-gnu-emacs and other bad search results reported elsewhere give good results. However, I did not find the root cause of problem. Something is likely going wrong in the incremental indexing done by namazu. I've improved that so it reports errors: we were incorrectly ignoring them before. Hopefully that will lead to tracking down the root cause, but if you notice any problems, especially in searching for messages posted at a time after around now (those will all be incrementally indexed), please let us know. [...] Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.2 MISSING_HEADERS Missing To: header -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 29290 Cc: 29290@debbugs.gnu.org, mailman@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: sysadmin@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I regenerated the search index and the searches mentioned in bug-gnu-emacs and other bad search results reported elsewhere give good results. However, I did not find the root cause of problem. Something is likely going wrong in the incremental indexing done by namazu. I've improved that so it reports errors: we were incorrectly ignoring them before. Hopefully that will lead to tracking down the root cause, but if you notice any problems, especially in searching for messages posted at a time after around now (those will all be incrementally indexed), please let us know. [...] Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.2 MISSING_HEADERS Missing To: header -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record I regenerated the search index and the searches mentioned in bug-gnu-emacs and other bad search results reported elsewhere give good results. However, I did not find the root cause of problem. Something is likely going wrong in the incremental indexing done by namazu. I've improved that so it reports errors: we were incorrectly ignoring them before. Hopefully that will lead to tracking down the root cause, but if you notice any problems, especially in searching for messages posted at a time after around now (those will all be incrementally indexed), please let us know. The reindexing of lists is still in progress and should finish in about 24 hours, so you might still notice issues on other list archive searches until then. Search will be temporarily broken for each list as it is reindexed. It is going a-z and is currently doing emacs-devel as I send this (it hasn't gotten to emacs-orgmode yet). -- Ian Kelling | Senior Systems Administrator, Free Software Foundation GPG Key: B125 F60B 7B28 7FF6 A2B7 DF8F 170A F0E2 9542 95DF https://fsf.org | https://gnu.org From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:22:41 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 12:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator