From unknown Mon Aug 11 19:03:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28971: 24.4; Gnus TLS/SSL POP issue Resent-From: Emanuel Berg Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 17:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 28971 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 28971@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.150886696725351 (code B ref -1); Tue, 24 Oct 2017 17:43:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2017 17:42:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60154 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e73Dy-0006ap-1y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:42:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47645) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e737v-0006Qf-64 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:36:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e737n-00019t-68 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:36:25 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:46593) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e737n-00019n-3L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:36:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38574) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e737k-0000Fb-Dx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:36:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e737h-00014H-1r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:36:20 -0400 Received: from sender-pp-091.zoho.com ([135.84.80.236]:25094) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e737g-00010W-Ol for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:36:16 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=H84aO4mdWrD4l8LeMHTPdZjZfDpYXf3F8q/mqMm3KlTx7NPH6xhGudIy6izZH87MqBhU/B1zmfyA ZgZ0nRaPrCMO+ngOgGDIpRsMNd1cWd1Tq7k6wMsvLnoxbPCAiwK7 Received: from raspberrypi.zoho.com (m77-218-246-4.cust.tele2.se [77.218.246.4]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1508737688660867.8851471880902; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 22:48:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Emanuel Berg Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 07:48:05 +0200 Message-ID: <86a80ixvmy.fsf@zoho.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-ZohoMailClient: External X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:42:44 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) There was a discussion on gmane.emacs.gnus.general about this bug or problem. Best probably just to check it out there. Otherwise I had it appended to a file and made some edits to make it more clear - here it is Something happened to my Gnus. Or the remote connection? Now when I do `gnus-group-get-new-news' Gnus hangs until I do C-g. The broken POP processes pile up at `list-processes'. > Maybe confirm that POP access works from the > command line first? > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/201818/checking-pop-mail-account-using-terminal Error according to socat, works with openssl. test-zoho () { local server=pop.zoho.com local port=995 socat - OPENSSL:${server}:${port} echo "socat done" openssl s_client -quiet -connect ${server}:${port} echo "openssl done" } $ test-zoho 2017/10/20 17:54:09 socat[29967] E SSL_connect(): error:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed socat done depth=2 C = US, O = "thawte, Inc.", OU = Certification Services Division, OU = "(c) 2006 thawte, Inc. - For authorized use only", CN = thawte Primary Root CA verify return:1 depth=1 C = US, O = "thawte, Inc.", OU = Domain Validated SSL, CN = thawte DV SSL CA - G2 verify return:1 depth=0 CN = *.zoho.com verify return:1 +OK POP3 mx.zohomail.com v1.0 server ready <10427.1508514850321@mx.zohomail.com> user XYZ +OK pass ABC +OK quit +OK mx.zohomail.com Service closing transmission channel openssl done > Error according to socat, works with openssl. > test-zoho () { local server=pop.zoho.com local port=995 socat - OPENSSL:${server}:${port} echo "socat done" openssl s_client -quiet -connect ${server}:${port} echo "openssl done" } > $ test-zoho > 2017/10/20 17:54:09 socat[29967] E SSL_connect(): error:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed socat done depth=2 C = US, O = "thawte, Inc.", OU = Certification Services Division, OU = "(c) 2006 thawte, Inc. - For authorized use only", CN = thawte Primary Root CA verify return:1 depth=1 C = US, O = "thawte, Inc.", OU = Domain Validated SSL, CN = thawte DV SSL CA - G2 verify return:1 depth=0 CN = *.zoho.com verify return:1 +OK POP3 mx.zohomail.com v1.0 server ready <10427.1508514850321@mx.zohomail.com> user XYZ +OK pass ABC +OK quit +OK mx.zohomail.com Service closing transmission channel openssl done Unfortunately I don't know too much about tls, and will be of limited help here, but my guess is there's something slightly wrong with the pop.zoho.com certificate, something that openssl is letting slide, but socat and gnutls aren't happy about. > my guess is there's something slightly wrong > with the pop.zoho.com certificate, something > that openssl is letting slide, but socat and > gnutls aren't happy about. What exactly is openssl? Can I use that instead of gnutls? >> my guess is there's something slightly wrong >> with the pop.zoho.com certificate, something >> that openssl is letting slide, but socat and >> gnutls aren't happy about. > What exactly is openssl? Can I use that > instead of gnutls? My understanding (and again, I know very little about these things) is that the two programs are roughly equivalent: they handle creating and checking TLS certificates, and creating and handling TLS-encrypted connections to remote servers. I actually was just assuming you are using gnutls, you can probably check the libgnutls-version. You can also try setting gnutls-log-level to 3 or 4 and fetching mail, and see if anything interesting pops up in *Messages*. The bad news is that I tried this: gnutls-cli --port 995 pop.zoho.com And it connected just fine. You might try that, and going through with the login procedure. > the two programs are roughly equivalent: they > handle creating and checking TLS > certificates, and creating and handling > TLS-encrypted connections to remote servers. OK, then how do I specify openssl should be used instead? Worth a shot... A search with `apropos-value' and "gnutls" reveals starttls-gnutls-program "gnutls-cli" tls-program ("gnutls-cli --insecure -p %p %h" "gnutls-cli --insecure -p %p %h --protocols ssl3" "openssl s_client -connect %h:%p -no_ssl2 -ign_eof") Neither set by me, but can be incorrect anyway, of course. Eheh. > I actually was just assuming you are using > gnutls, you can probably check the > libgnutls-version. If you mean ... then: $ gnutls-cli --version gnutls-cli 3.3.8 > You can also try setting gnutls-log-level to > 3 or 4 and fetching mail, and see if anything > interesting pops up in *Messages*. This does, over and over again: gnutls.c: [3] ASSERT: gnutls_buffers.c:547 gnutls.c: [3] (Emacs) retry: Resource temporarily unavailable, try again. gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) non-fatal error: Resource temporarily unavailable, try again. gnutls.c: [3] ASSERT: gnutls_buffers.c:1104 > The bad news is that I tried this: > gnutls-cli --port 995 pop.zoho.com > And it connected just fine. You might try > that, and going through with the > login procedure. Login procedure works, the rest seems fine (?). >> the two programs are roughly equivalent: >> they handle creating and checking TLS >> certificates, and creating and handling >> TLS-encrypted connections to remote servers. > OK, then how do I specify openssl should be > used instead? Worth a shot... A search with > `apropos-value' and "gnutls" reveals > starttls-gnutls-program "gnutls-cli" > tls-program ("gnutls-cli --insecure -p %p %h" > "gnutls-cli --insecure -p %p %h --protocols > ssl3" "openssl s_client -connect %h:%p > -no_ssl2 -ign_eof") Maybe change this variable so that only the "openssl" string is in there? > If you mean ... then: > $ gnutls-cli --version gnutls-cli 3.3.8 I meant that if the variable libgnutls-version was non-nil, it probably meant you were using gnutls. But the variables you found above are more relevant. >> You can also try setting gnutls-log-level to >> 3 or 4 and fetching mail, and see if >> anything interesting pops up in *Messages*. > > This does, over and over again: > > gnutls.c: [3] ASSERT: gnutls_buffers.c:547 > > gnutls.c: [3] (Emacs) retry: Resource > temporarily unavailable, try again. > gnutls.c: [1] (Emacs) non-fatal error: > Resource temporarily unavailable, try again. > gnutls.c: [3] ASSERT: gnutls_buffers.c:1104 > The bad news is that I tried this: >> gnutls-cli --port 995 pop.zoho.com >> And it connected just fine. You might try >> that, and going through with the login >> >procedure. > > Login procedure works, the rest seems fine > (?). Another post on the topic: I'm gonna use this thread to dump everything related to this issue. At least then I have it all in one place. I've had the issue for several years off and on, on several computers even with slightly different OSs (Debian and Raspbian) so it is starting to get embarrassing. Mail source (pop :user XYZ :password ABC :server pop.zoho.com :port 995 :stream ssl) failed: (error USER XYZ not valid) and gnutls.c: [0] (Emacs) fatal error: The TLS connection was non-properly terminated. 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-0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim-ubuntu ([149.5.228.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p49sm27845415wrc.61.2017.10.30.01.33.37 for <28971@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Oct 2017 01:33:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim References: <86a80ixvmy.fsf@zoho.com> Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 09:33:34 +0100 In-Reply-To: <86a80ixvmy.fsf@zoho.com> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Mon, 23 Oct 2017 07:48:05 +0200") Message-ID: <87h8uhavc1.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Emanuel Berg writes: > This does, over and over again: > > gnutls.c: [3] ASSERT: gnutls_buffers.c:547 > > gnutls.c: [3] (Emacs) retry: Resource > temporarily unavailable, try again. gnutls.c: > [1] (Emacs) non-fatal error: Resource > temporarily unavailable, try again. gnutls.c: > [3] ASSERT: gnutls_buffers.c:1104 > >> The bad news is that I tried this: >> gnutls-cli --port 995 pop.zoho.com >> And it connected just fine. You might try >> that, and going through with the >> login procedure. > You're using the builtin GNUTLS support. There have been a number of fixes to it over the years, so it could be worth trying emacs-26. If that's not possible, the alternative is to switch to using the external gnutls-cli command instead. Something like (defun gnutls-available-p () nil) before you load gnus should do the trick. Regards Robert From unknown Mon Aug 11 19:03:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28971: 24.4; Gnus TLS/SSL POP issue In-Reply-To: <86a80ixvmy.fsf@zoho.com> Resent-From: Emanuel Berg Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 01:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28971 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 28971@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.151010298924411 (code B ref -1); Wed, 08 Nov 2017 01:04:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2017 01:03:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57292 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eCElp-0006Le-BF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:03:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40322) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eCEBL-0005Le-UR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 19:25:28 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eCEBF-0002YD-Sz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 19:25:22 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:54403) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eCEBF-0002Xx-G4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 19:25:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59526) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eCEBE-00036V-E1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 19:25:21 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eCEBB-0002Ve-1s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 19:25:20 -0500 Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=49441 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eCEBA-0002Ui-R2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 19:25:16 -0500 Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eCEAz-00074L-Ka for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2017 01:25:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Emanuel Berg Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 00:46:34 +0100 Lines: 18 Message-ID: <86tvy5bqjp.fsf@zoho.com> References: <86a80ixvmy.fsf@zoho.com> <87h8uhavc1.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:Mbrft5Y0WraYLP7CAzeoOc2isfY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:03:08 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) Robert Pluim wrote: > You're using the builtin GNUTLS support. > There have been a number of fixes to it over > the years, so it could be worth trying > emacs-26. If that's not possible, the > alternative is to switch to using the > external gnutls-cli command instead. > Something like > > (defun gnutls-available-p () nil) OK, I'll try both suggestions and get back to you on gmane.emacs.gnus.general ! -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 From unknown Mon Aug 11 19:03:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28971: 24.4; Gnus TLS/SSL POP issue In-Reply-To: <86a80ixvmy.fsf@zoho.com> Resent-From: Emanuel Berg Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 01:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28971 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 28971@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.151010299024418 (code B ref -1); Wed, 08 Nov 2017 01:04:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2017 01:03:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57294 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eCElp-0006Lg-RD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:03:10 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41783) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eCEKz-0005hg-G8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 19:35:25 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eCEKt-0006Dr-DE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 19:35:20 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:52522) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eCEKt-0006Dd-8T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 19:35:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60981) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eCEKs-0003kL-0k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 19:35:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eCEKo-00068k-QY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 19:35:17 -0500 Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=37677 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eCEKo-00067t-JV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 19:35:14 -0500 Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eCEKe-0003vJ-LE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2017 01:35:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Emanuel Berg Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 01:28:42 +0100 Lines: 14 Message-ID: <86y3nhaa11.fsf@zoho.com> References: <86a80ixvmy.fsf@zoho.com> <87h8uhavc1.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:MvqHKdiXupxKR9SPcz4kMcXNAjE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:03:08 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) Robert Pluim wrote: > (defun gnutls-available-p () nil) This doesn't seem to have solved the problem Opening TLS connection to `pop.zoho.com'... Opening TLS connection with `gnutls-cli --insecure -p 995 pop.zoho.com'...done Opening TLS connection to `pop.zoho.com'...done Mail source (pop :user ABC :password XYZ :server pop.zoho.com :port 995 :stream ssl) failed: (error USER ABC not valid) -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 From unknown Mon Aug 11 19:03:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28971: 24.4; Gnus TLS/SSL POP issue Resent-From: Noam Postavsky Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 02:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28971 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 28971@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 28971-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28971.151028097511458 (code B ref 28971); Fri, 10 Nov 2017 02:30:03 +0000 Received: (at 28971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Nov 2017 02:29:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32992 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eCz4Z-0002yk-BI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2017 21:29:35 -0500 Received: from mail-it0-f43.google.com ([209.85.214.43]:46474) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eCz4X-0002yY-RA for 28971@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2017 21:29:34 -0500 Received: by mail-it0-f43.google.com with SMTP id f187so13795456itb.1 for <28971@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 09 Nov 2017 18:29:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=+WiJI930I2qgaY+mvjJc8o03lUc7n2lEojYIGL0HanQ=; b=q6o4QVx14NLh6H7XSOxuO/mxdNv9Vt7/5b3HCVivGjrQKgvP/xBL3O8YehxFR7O+nk /++osc83rRwVCq9pm9SlAaontKri5FA0ioBZvMcFXrs+cy6pA5hK/LF72z1qSxiwcGN8 yMOQxi9HAdpprHx3QVmKGJH2xO/2Vm6HxDbNINRX5ME9RY9Lepqd/92ez30utVywZIzN h9lbeojYt4o+MDVYoz57oxVEshZc07QvGaB6z9mYFD49F8LK38c4PTGzqWdFJMCojfYl U535bxKhVK1/jWhQL/EWr8Z1rinbNrf5S9IpR4bgz28wk1iy8/LeAKpEDbr09slfUxZT GNQA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=+WiJI930I2qgaY+mvjJc8o03lUc7n2lEojYIGL0HanQ=; b=PgeTs7ikI+ItHQ3y/7KE0OOxo7Az9F3ULxmRi7/n0dzxqjIMhl8hlYqK3ftTcc9MrS WKqCGXd5CBig0C30NS/Fdsl/xcjx9iuKkCpqBSFeU9kz79GMo5pTEEJpw4pUFjwnP2q6 kMqEYzFgSDpx7IDKQhx44OUSiCP71qXkaejSjWiQJmJkEXACHFn+fkPsy2jntxYTPMfv cBrt8qMBd1brf72wdzzFkfwptM8B9qIH33uDiBFRGpK5W1OgLRg+VTv4oKa440W/Ht7L Je7l7B5t2YPhvq3yDAfJa5XcjqArxqXsi76OSW2vIUDNVmQikwO2GAziMPt5S9l8Huo9 LCnA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX4rYC76Wbo6epkJCN1Q0G2+oqRkvJQ5+wT+nHQ3eNHsBxdgK8+Y 0xeMEA0lkizcKr5fYPw/E6RrLQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+RON5Bambp4yj9yY2DrLy4gp0xk63/t3tvlFSywBRVRZ9folo4H8l3P+1xPiuiNiI1pVyPMNQ== X-Received: by 10.36.14.207 with SMTP id 198mr2699215ite.66.1510280968119; Thu, 09 Nov 2017 18:29:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebian ([45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id r65sm1791633ith.3.2017.11.09.18.29.26 for <28971@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 09 Nov 2017 18:29:27 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky References: <86a80ixvmy.fsf@zoho.com> <87h8uhavc1.fsf@gmail.com> <86y3nhaa11.fsf@zoho.com> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2017 21:29:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: <86y3nhaa11.fsf@zoho.com> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Wed, 08 Nov 2017 01:28:42 +0100") Message-ID: <87mv3u3lyx.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) Emanuel Berg writes: >> (defun gnutls-available-p () nil) > > This doesn't seem to have solved the problem > > Opening TLS connection to `pop.zoho.com'... > Opening TLS connection with `gnutls-cli --insecure -p 995 pop.zoho.com'...done > Opening TLS connection to `pop.zoho.com'...done > Mail source (pop :user ABC :password XYZ :server pop.zoho.com :port 995 :stream ssl) failed: (error USER ABC not valid) You may also need to customize `tls-program' to use the `openssl' command. Although I think external-program based tls is kind of flaky, so I don't how much you can really expect from it. From unknown Mon Aug 11 19:03:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28971: 24.4; Gnus TLS/SSL POP issue Resent-From: Robert Pluim Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 09:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28971 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 28971@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.15103075829967 (code B ref -1); Fri, 10 Nov 2017 09:54:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Nov 2017 09:53:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33170 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eD5zh-0002ab-PI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 04:53:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47852) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eD5zg-0002aI-5R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 04:53:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eD5za-0005jn-1q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 04:52:55 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:43774) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eD5zZ-0005jP-UU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 04:52:53 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38823) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eD5zY-0008DZ-4X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 04:52:53 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eD5zX-0005gU-90 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 04:52:52 -0500 Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]:36823) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eD5zX-0005fO-2j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 04:52:51 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id r68so1507933wmr.1 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 01:52:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:references:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=7suQYZFyPhUboZo2OVTkth61/2rBykzpoA+dnN9oiSY=; b=C+o7vMFsVp91x8NQBafoJlzNh9T/bGf2y68HJk7xqRhND+AYdJcNWxq8Dj+9ko9o4g No6VOPb3zSfCTT4HxHXtGCUJk+/z55qsdP4amBOsbk57RCogx74DOxaGUoKJXrdBEyjk Ql3CsBM7gsw5VXsrMU1nogl0HdTQ/nwTa+QvFc686hZLyUsE1RKBDKSJ1jIhN8+i9RJn YGfNlEloduz2eXNWWF867kSDF28XHsPsynm0cYayEjcoky+oYGt/oUK4S//zbjt3bG/4 GIxCcM5GICqLdDI86g//mCmdx00OfKdYJ8df1ZUMu26q/++GgcOTPpb9f42leR5HHamJ lwtg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:references:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=7suQYZFyPhUboZo2OVTkth61/2rBykzpoA+dnN9oiSY=; b=sJHR7A8tgl1ByD1O2exE0XbW10O0KkhVD/7ggh7i3aQ5B2Pjc7egcfOWKdsds7iahG O7bgmM7PxXCDJYd89ECJcmLpjmtNBwNmIEKT7xIPErT4+IVIvR1cNa106Y3Ugncd8MnJ /aBnvGCAR6/Gt95bGaEf1xrQy2tgXZiemQqKsrn74Xl10FPxuRpSdCwCRvBKIH5UQkDi RTMVFbQvJtksT/f2aywrhrM8mDbU4pHoIIk7NXeqXaoxc16Y/x0/Uyzr9+2VLqaE7LSv FSVFQY8aQvbu9YiLeplnE6xXWHiD8Rxs5Ounb46JU71zI8AZQF6+yEltfq/ToepuNw07 BCqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6P/SE6uHSF1lacG9yyg0EMZG4C3ogTHLEC+yK1I5q5xPGANxMH eznJpHdnO3xhFz9NgrAXyU2hPpIw X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+Tjp6gC3DQG7bHMGNA48SwSpbyCzLTbF54QtEvQAzWzgEaYtKUmG4wZVmVs5n60W3VORK2Iyw== X-Received: by 10.80.153.48 with SMTP id k45mr1780988edb.208.1510307569267; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 01:52:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from rpluim-ubuntu ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a090:b8fc:8a5f:ba53:2fa6]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k5sm6656714edc.61.2017.11.10.01.52.47 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Nov 2017 01:52:48 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Pluim References: <86a80ixvmy.fsf@zoho.com> <87h8uhavc1.fsf@gmail.com> <86y3nhaa11.fsf@zoho.com> Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:52:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: <86y3nhaa11.fsf@zoho.com> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Wed, 08 Nov 2017 01:28:42 +0100") Message-ID: <871sl68nps.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Emanuel Berg writes: > Robert Pluim wrote: > >> (defun gnutls-available-p () nil) > > This doesn't seem to have solved the problem > > Opening TLS connection to `pop.zoho.com'... > Opening TLS connection with `gnutls-cli --insecure -p 995 pop.zoho.com'...done > Opening TLS connection to `pop.zoho.com'...done > Mail source (pop :user ABC :password XYZ :server pop.zoho.com :port 995 :stream ssl) failed: (error USER ABC not valid) That looks like your username/password is being rejected by the remote POP server. There may be a buffer somewhere showing exactly what the server said. Robert From unknown Mon Aug 11 19:03:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28971: 24.4; Gnus TLS/SSL POP issue Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 21:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28971 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Pluim Cc: 28971@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 28971-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28971.152348183711535 (code B ref 28971); Wed, 11 Apr 2018 21:24:02 +0000 Received: (at 28971) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Apr 2018 21:23:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46613 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6NDh-0002zx-6j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 17:23:57 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:45206) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6NDe-0002zo-UF for 28971@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 17:23:55 -0400 Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6NDb-0000ST-Vk; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 23:23:54 +0200 Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f6NDW-0002WS-5c; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 23:23:46 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <86a80ixvmy.fsf@zoho.com> <87h8uhavc1.fsf@gmail.com> <86y3nhaa11.fsf@zoho.com> <871sl68nps.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 23:23:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: <871sl68nps.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:52:47 +0100") Message-ID: <87vacxxwri.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Robert Pluim writes: > Emanuel Berg writes: > >> Robert Pluim wrote: >> >>> (defun gnutls-available-p () nil) >> >> This doesn't seem to have solved the problem >> >> Opening TLS connection to `pop.zoho.com'... >> Opening TLS connection with `gnutls-cli --insecure -p 995 pop.zoho.com'...done >> Opening TLS connection to `pop.zoho.com'...done >> Mail source (pop :user ABC :password XYZ :server pop.zoho.com :port 995 :stream ssl) failed: (error USER ABC not valid) > > That looks like your username/password is being rejected by the remote > POP server. There may be a buffer somewhere showing exactly what the > server said. This doesn't seem to be an Emacs issue, so I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 11 17:23:58 2018 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Apr 2018 21:23:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46616 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6NDi-00030D-Gu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 17:23:58 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:45221) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6NDh-0002zy-On for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 17:23:58 -0400 Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6NDf-0000Yg-G6 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 23:23:57 +0200 Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f6NDZ-0002WV-NQ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 23:23:49 +0200 To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #28971 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 23:23:49 +0200 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 28971 notabug close 28971