From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 19 13:10:34 2017 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2017 17:10:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50607 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e5EL4-0006fv-0f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 13:10:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53583) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e5EL1-0006fh-VB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 13:10:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e5EKv-0002qQ-OH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 13:10:26 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:40404) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e5EKv-0002q3-Jv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 13:10:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44551) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e5EKu-0005FV-H2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 13:10:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e5EKr-0002nG-0d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 13:10:24 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:44573) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e5EKq-0002lq-KG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 13:10:20 -0400 Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v9JHAHwP001289 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 17:10:18 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v9JHAHhR020096 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 17:10:17 GMT Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v9JHAGb8001924 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 17:10:17 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3742fa68-5954-451f-b1b2-4cd2c49f9be9@default> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 10:10:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 26.0.90; Better `C-h k' help for mouse events X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4600.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Click `mouse-1' in the left fringe. While `mouse-1' is depressed, before you release it, you can see this in the echo area: left-fringe down-mouse-1- When you release `mouse-1' you get the `C-h k' help: (translated from ) at that spot runs the command mouse-set-point... The information about the click being in the fringe is lost - not presented. The binding of `mouse-1' is described. Well, OK, that's the key sequence that was bound to a command, so the help info is correct. But it would be helpful if we said something more specific than just "at that spot". Especially because the binding of a mouse press or click can be different at different "spots". Can we not say something like "in the left fringe" instead of "at that spot"? Similarly, if you click in the minibuffer or echo area or... Could we not mention where you clicked (or pressed or dragged)? In GNU Emacs 26.0.90 (build 3, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2017-10-13 built on LAPHROAIG Repository revision: 906224eba147bdfc0514090064e8e8f53160f1d4 Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 17 17:59:25 2022 Received: (at 28903) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2022 21:59:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58231 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nr5Dx-0002YU-CY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 17:59:25 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:58336) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nr5Dv-0002YA-4j for 28903@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 17:59:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Q7QTkEYd8J47jxGparCDJ6//rf81gP4LV9wpA2+Wm44=; b=PruynpV7HsF19R2ZDcW4bZHrq8 HgZrqn/66fRvAmdonSwx+nhUPiNTb4dnkRj4hcXnuuoOJSpk8MSKXLT9Jb5ciXqvCChiujEIaZUsf nxTRIEjZV10qZi/qi7ovRUzE7xZOTMzJsh+Jc6eKgmvyuBpHMxXE4YV//AJt4r40dd2Q=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nr5Dl-00089x-Ba; Tue, 17 May 2022 23:59:15 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#28903: 26.0.90; Better `C-h k' help for mouse events References: <3742fa68-5954-451f-b1b2-4cd2c49f9be9@default> X-Now-Playing: Peakes's _Peripheral Figures_: "Nameless Machines" Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 23:59:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3742fa68-5954-451f-b1b2-4cd2c49f9be9@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 19 Oct 2017 10:10:15 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87k0ajhlcg.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Drew Adams writes: > Click `mouse-1' in the left fringe. While `mouse-1' is depressed, before > you release it, you can see this in the echo area: > > left-fringe down-mouse-1- > > When you release `mouse-1' you get the [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 28903 Cc: 28903@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Drew Adams writes: > Click `mouse-1' in the left fringe. While `mouse-1' is depressed, before > you release it, you can see this in the echo area: > > left-fringe down-mouse-1- > > When you release `mouse-1' you get the `C-h k' help: > > (translated from ) at that spot runs > the command mouse-set-point... > > The information about the click being in the fringe is lost - not > presented. The binding of `mouse-1' is described. Well, OK, that's the > key sequence that was bound to a command, so the help info is correct. This has been fixed in the years since it was reported. 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