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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) --94eb2c06388a5a2ac0055bcfc33c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Consider the following init file: ;; Begin (package-initialize) (add-to-list 'package-archives '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")) (unless (package-installed-p 'use-package) (package-refresh-contents) (package-install 'use-package)) (eval-when-compile (require 'use-package)) (use-package slime :ensure t) (setq custom-file "~/.emacs.d/custom.el") (load custom-file 'noerror) ;; End This will produce a following custom.el file: (custom-set-variables ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(package-selected-packages (quote (slime use-package))) '(tramp-syntax (quote default) nil (tramp))) (custom-set-faces ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. ) For some reason the tramp-syntax line gets added which causes TRAMP to load at startup, this didn't happen with GNU Emacs 25.3 and it slows down startup while it gets loaded unnecessarily. This only happens if I specify a custom-file location, if those two last lines are deleted then the TRAMP line doesn't get added to the init file: ;; Begin (package-initialize) (add-to-list 'package-archives '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")) (unless (package-installed-p 'use-package) (package-refresh-contents) (package-install 'use-package)) (eval-when-compile (require 'use-package)) (use-package slime :ensure t) (custom-set-variables ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(package-selected-packages (quote (slime use-package))) '(tramp-syntax (quote default) nil (tramp))) (custom-set-faces ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. ) ;; End So far this happens only with SLIME and Cider packages. In GNU Emacs 26.0.90 (build 1, i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.24) of 2017-10-13 built on lambda Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11905000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux unstable (sid) Recent messages: Loading /home/drot/.emacs.d/custom.el (source)... Loading tramp...done Loading /home/drot/.emacs.d/custom.el (source)...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Configured using: 'configure 'CFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-strong' --prefix=/home/drot/.local '--program-transform-name=s/^ctags$/ctags.emacs/'' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 LIBSYSTEMD LCMS2 Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t override-global-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils leuven-theme time-date elec-pair tramp tramp-compat tramp-loaddefs trampver ucs-normalize shell pcomplete parse-time format-spec advice cus-start cus-load slime compile etags xref project arc-mode archive-mode noutline outline pp comint ansi-color ring hyperspec thingatpt browse-url use-package diminish bind-key easy-mmode finder-inf info slime-autoloads package easymenu epg-config url-handlers url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs password-cache url-vars seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv cl-loaddefs cl-lib mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 8 266033 12419) (symbols 24 27060 1) (miscs 20 115 100) (strings 16 51982 2324) (string-bytes 1 1352983) (vectors 8 44214) (vector-slots 4 834834 14348) (floats 8 107 14) (intervals 28 261 0) (buffers 528 12)) --94eb2c06388a5a2ac0055bcfc33c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Consider the following = init file:

;; Begin
(package-initialize)
(add-to-list &#= 39;package-archives
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/"))


(unle= ss (package-installed-p 'use-package)
=C2=A0 (package-refresh-conten= ts)
=C2=A0 (package-install 'use-package))


(eval-when-com= pile
=C2=A0 (require 'use-package))


(use-package slime=C2=A0 :ensure t)

(setq custom-file "~/.emacs.d/custom.el"= ;)
(load custom-file 'noerror)
;; End

This wil= l produce a following custom.el file:

(custom-set-variables
=C2= =A0;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom.
=C2=A0;; If you edit it = by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
=C2=A0;; Your init file sh= ould contain only one such instance.
=C2=A0;; If there is more than one,= they won't work right.
=C2=A0'(package-selected-packages (quote= (slime use-package)))
=C2=A0'(tramp-syntax (quote default) nil (tra= mp)))
(custom-set-faces
=C2=A0;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom= .
=C2=A0;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.<= br>=C2=A0;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
=C2=A0= ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
=C2=A0)

=
For some reason the tramp-syntax line gets added which causes TRAMP t= o load at startup,
this didn't happen with GNU Emacs 25.3 and= it slows down startup while it gets loaded unnecessarily.
This on= ly happens if I specify a custom-file location, if those two last lines are= deleted then
the TRAMP line doesn't get added to the init fi= le:

;; Begin
=C2=A0(package-initialize)
(add-to-list = 9;package-archives
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/"))


(unle= ss (package-installed-p 'use-package)
=C2=A0 (package-refresh-conten= ts)
=C2=A0 (package-install 'use-package))


(eval-when-com= pile
=C2=A0 (require 'use-package))


(use-package slime=C2=A0 :ensure t)
(custom-set-variables
=C2=A0;; custom-set-variable= s was added by Custom.
=C2=A0;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess i= t up, so be careful.
=C2=A0;; Your init file should contain only one suc= h instance.
=C2=A0;; If there is more than one, they won't work righ= t.
=C2=A0'(package-selected-packages (quote (slime use-package)))=C2=A0'(tramp-syntax (quote default) nil (tramp)))
(custom-set-face= s
=C2=A0;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom.
=C2=A0;; If you edit= it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
=C2=A0;; Your init fil= e should contain only one such instance.
=C2=A0;; If there is more than = one, they won't work right.
=C2=A0)
;; End

<= /div>
So far this happens only with SLIME and Cider packages.
=

In GNU Emacs 26.0.90 (build 1, = i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.24)
=C2=A0of 2017-10-13 built on la= mbda
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', versio= n 11.0.11905000
System Description:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Debian GNU/Linux u= nstable (sid)

Recent messages:
Loading /home/drot/.emacs.d/custom= .el (source)...
Loading tramp...done
Loading /home/drot/.emacs.d/cust= om.el (source)...done
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system= , type C-h C-a.

Configured using:
=C2=A0'configure 'CFLAG= S=3D-march=3Dnative -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-strong'
=C2=A0--pref= ix=3D/home/drot/.local
=C2=A0'--program-transform-name=3Ds/^ctags$/c= tags.emacs/''

Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG = RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS NOTIFY
ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS L= IBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 LI= BSYSTEMD LCMS2

Important settings:
=C2=A0 value of $LANG: en_US.U= TF-8
=C2=A0 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Fundamen= tal

Minor modes in effect:
=C2=A0 shell-dirtrack-mode: t
=C2= =A0 override-global-mode: t
=C2=A0 tooltip-mode: t
=C2=A0 global-eldo= c-mode: t
=C2=A0 electric-indent-mode: t
=C2=A0 mouse-wheel-mode: t=C2=A0 file-name-shadow-mode: t
=C2=A0 global-font-lock-mode: t
=C2= =A0 auto-composition-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-encryption-mode: t
=C2=A0 au= to-compression-mode: t
=C2=A0 buffer-read-only: t
=C2=A0 line-number-= mode: t
=C2=A0 transient-mark-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None = found.

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny= dired dired-loaddefs
rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg gnus-util rmail= rmail-loaddefs
mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabb= rev gmm-utils
mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mai= l-prsvr
mail-utils leuven-theme time-date elec-pair tramp tramp-compattramp-loaddefs trampver ucs-normalize shell pcomplete parse-time
forma= t-spec advice cus-start cus-load slime compile etags xref project
arc-mo= de archive-mode noutline outline pp comint ansi-color ring
hyperspec thi= ngatpt browse-url use-package diminish bind-key easy-mmode
finder-inf in= fo slime-autoloads package easymenu epg-config url-handlers
url-parse au= th-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs
password-cache = url-vars seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv
cl-loaddefs cl-lib = mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook
vc-hooks lisp-float= -type mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd
tool-bar dnd fontset= image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace
newcomment text-mode eli= sp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page
menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch t= imer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock
font-lock syntax facemenu font-cor= e term/tty-colors frame cl-generic
cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vi= etnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebr= ew greek romanian slovak czech
european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese= composite charscript charprop
case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help si= mple abbrev obarray minibuffer
cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button face= s cus-face macroexp files
text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format= env code-pages mule
custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote db= usbind inotify lcms2
dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-set= ting move-toolbar gtk
x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs)<= br>
Memory information:
((conses 8 266033 12419)
=C2=A0(symbols 24= 27060 1)
=C2=A0(miscs 20 115 100)
=C2=A0(strings 16 51982 2324)
= =C2=A0(string-bytes 1 1352983)
=C2=A0(vectors 8 44214)
=C2=A0(vector-= slots 4 834834 14348)
=C2=A0(floats 8 107 14)
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--94eb2c06388a5a2ac0055bcfc33c-- From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:21:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28889: 26.0.90; TRAMP and custom file location References: In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Davor Rotim Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 10:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28889 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 28889@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 28889-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28889.150832350919343 (code B ref 28889); Wed, 18 Oct 2017 10:46:01 +0000 Received: (at 28889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2017 10:45:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47339 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e4lqW-00051v-Nk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:45:08 -0400 Received: from mail-wr0-f170.google.com ([209.85.128.170]:55039) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e4lqU-000519-Mn for 28889@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:45:07 -0400 Received: by mail-wr0-f170.google.com with SMTP id o44so4506928wrf.11 for <28889@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 18 Oct 2017 03:45:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=FEP1m2zkurAGrIJ3NVHJ83ly3WbtdkOE0D6VMWxH4aI=; b=cwwhnunUZBX8GUR8ufUszuWnXYhrguw5untu3YoPwookAskL8cppZMT5tx7RqCikAZ dP6mTGkj9jwoyQveSUasRowl/aPRpBxT90jxn22nPtYmzvFOqNtM7F+lQJ0EE0MpL+2M APPfgLPcj11Za6JmRrEFhGnaf49fumvpRwTVcc1Ep8aldxQk4IruLt+K/bCTOXMw2WI1 R9Wa3LYAevvM/taumvuxGi+pcIJE5qf8v9v+bcjQ1m/F/vlx1654NZIUeNjjO5U4R4tx +knWm8vbTmxbnWxrGWGmA/ZbVaQLsTj0BwSIpYCdeiOGwuaKcb5bZob8eJEqBjsdp8Qw vHhQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=FEP1m2zkurAGrIJ3NVHJ83ly3WbtdkOE0D6VMWxH4aI=; b=dna3d60AFJoPLtfTf28i9GoMOvwK0GylH+QDjSH8EhwsYJ4MYFlXxhm76PsTQDrfJ1 17iADWKDXmYNwev+rMDQpfeDAup6GXA5/FmUDuLhx/vAZ28EzO5WFE2EDI+Yu8RVGwqR xABSszQ/9BXTbgpospgkOU+qZXr8NMlE9/IiL1wjuw4T0575p/SvC9BKMbvASDB3A7j/ LKvPb2R71F7pULe//ShU56X5YIHAOA6TtipIOQVy8HrpBFxMvY8t7H9ZyYUowaaUUico lAL1HcE7bpdeO0l/X0eIbqYSBHQcUafQ4F4702OV94lWTceToL7vF53lLuQEdjr9C6Y8 CQLw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaXhPuSr+1qplbiMupzT91kLC1XIizDLWRCyMFphyaK/wVZGZ+bS 3ap8VULKi3uMjstyZtzHyfL//Qr2NESI5olcTdpJOg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+R6B+pDCn+DjuW0S8JK2fX+9XkpQdeE20PuZkEWRM/vHb3Qn2HwSOb1ARFhRxVdirNLz8zhoPDg06naBFdyY+8= X-Received: by 10.223.197.69 with SMTP id s5mr6888765wrf.120.1508323500661; Wed, 18 Oct 2017 03:45:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.150.88 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2017 03:45:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Davor Rotim Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 12:45:00 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403043e4fcc76a377055bcfee96" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) --f403043e4fcc76a377055bcfee96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Forgot to mention that this problem occurs even without use-package usage. The problem still persists even with the following init file: ;; Begin (package-initialize) (add-to-list 'package-archives '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")) (defun require-package (package) "Ensures that PACKAGE is installed." (unless (or (package-installed-p package) (require package nil 'noerror)) (unless (assoc package package-archive-contents) (package-refresh-contents)) (package-install package))) (require-package 'slime) (setq custom-file (locate-user-emacs-file "custom.el")) (load custom-file 'noerror) ;; End --f403043e4fcc76a377055bcfee96 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Forgot to mention that this problem occurs even witho= ut use-package usage.
The problem still persists even with the fo= llowing init file:

;; Begin
(package= -initialize)
(add-to-list 'package-archives
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 '("melpa"= . "https://melpa.org/packages= /"))

(defun require-package (package)
=C2=A0 "Ensur= es that PACKAGE is installed."
=C2=A0 (unless (or (package-installe= d-p package)
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (require package nil 'noerror))
=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 (unless (assoc package package-archive-contents)
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (package-refresh-contents))
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (package-= install package)))

(require-package 'slime)

(setq custom-= file (locate-user-emacs-file "custom.el"))
(load custom-file &= #39;noerror)
;; End
--f403043e4fcc76a377055bcfee96-- From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:21:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28889: 26.0.90; TRAMP and custom file location Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 16:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28889 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Davor Rotim Cc: 28889@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 28889-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28889.150860507614896 (code B ref 28889); Sat, 21 Oct 2017 16:58:02 +0000 Received: (at 28889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2017 16:57:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54515 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e5x5v-0003sC-Uu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2017 12:57:56 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:56112) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e5x5s-0003rw-EO for 28889@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2017 12:57:52 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.91.243.163]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lpspj-1dbY1m1paR-00fhjk; Sat, 21 Oct 2017 18:57:45 +0200 From: Michael Albinus References: Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 18:57:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Davor Rotim's message of "Wed, 18 Oct 2017 12:32:56 +0200") Message-ID: <87bml0qvzr.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:zTasu9HKIOdqpJVqp/w8dUte42n3jhjTGC5tmxBcF2gU8/gakPT cW1yyGbSLsggpvkvsftGgpCVAIp+TqQyf7+D83CgLbhoCPej40EZbLWgPm5zSrbo9qB5vzk pns+0XGhMrT+A2vc8aZyYAeBy4j89Avz180E7RxL6j/xEe6DZguNu7eMCl7/7PDeVckeKiM UM2JjcsGQsYQpv+a9tbjA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:TKMDaDMRHkQ=:O5zzdpjGpP3/F9fGmPGr2C BDPoDscRz/QLmEoc0YdoJdjWq2i36fvHQV/Okr5HcHZf5K/SNrshYL/nW3SIvjVayHyBnpEPP gKfIrMcRtgsmqzLVcnK+5Q0we2y+vutb9r95942vZjq6Y9yWPgfBBx1/NECTxpEg+5BDGnM40 Fa6zPGk5giMeBL2xGCxqFaLiuMXWqZYd3lB54A9rkREc0lawNfUyX92sWOd35hYX+kIsEWsZj l1DC2wnFeKBC+rXEF0Pjk+XtmOl6Iz3wSnCiYmwhVlNh/Pg0vU3aPJ/QUv9RQDdvraCFe4hTs PpBQLA7/Hp2J0g05RvWjU14AaK5oZ/Lbkp+y8TCcf7C0iqmeVFVGGxkQuvphfrkROT3ugroF7 heCP/khrMlvzHEj3SOj9P8PJ78dADO17Qr3aB1xYvkRgZcIcc9E+zC81yk++i1aKITfyrGAWV +4NBh++m+RYyoblF9Q3DCgCBggfXSRgXv6K8ITfqCjONCVEcTR2ifsRAjTcMOb371tg5HDgfm v4IO3iFEMocUYxz5qg1Xywow9a3DAhGgBhJ4SCB+o60IxY4SJvh5zZYAAgaCrY+BAljlbnWhf CGd2SfXMgBBj07E24SEVQezbX9etocFvJIG2Fw7E2hFl82fEdDCgou7avJkWyAj3fHWQILcZ/ sR9VmdjNEtS5sY9ovzYeWkOGlKF4akFuRWfA20LhUj13ffuLnM9iNGPHQaC1RRLXIPpwGJfF2 E2tfzhsxDdSK1GhLQFI4XcD3b9ZEYRq21BmAZQFtKSGOSWHVIHG773YmZdVvaJJ8Ob48xc6ou ANKrSxro2OFoc6cqYsWwD6sM1s1NWjknrhSvDxLeKM0Tz5N/+c= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Davor Rotim writes: Hi Davor, > This will produce a following custom.el file: > > (custom-set-variables > ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. > ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. > ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. > ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. > '(package-selected-packages (quote (slime use-package))) > '(tramp-syntax (quote default) nil (tramp))) > (custom-set-faces > ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. > ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. > ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. > ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. > ) > > For some reason the tramp-syntax line gets added which causes TRAMP to > load at startup, > this didn't happen with GNU Emacs 25.3 and it slows down startup while > it gets loaded unnecessarily. I've committed a patch to the emacs-26 branch, which ought to fix this. Could you pls check? Since autoloads are changed, it might be necessary to call 'make -C lisp autoloads' prior to the usual 'make' call. It would also be helpful if somebody could test whether Tramp still works proper for MS Windows; I have no chance to test this myself. Best regards, Michael. From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:21:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28889: 26.0.90; TRAMP and custom file location Resent-From: Davor Rotim Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28889 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Albinus Cc: 28889@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 28889-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28889.150867525713319 (code B ref 28889); Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:28:01 +0000 Received: (at 28889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Oct 2017 12:27:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54972 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6FLs-0003Sl-La for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 08:27:36 -0400 Received: from mail-wr0-f179.google.com ([209.85.128.179]:49646) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6FLr-0003SX-0L for 28889@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 08:27:35 -0400 Received: by mail-wr0-f179.google.com with SMTP id g90so14805163wrd.6 for <28889@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 05:27:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=OJoyZQoT8hQY6LnRTdVFLhXKXNlbP/Sl9XLPT8C1Qh8=; b=UDwdsU/wJcwyPCpdekSF3ZS1VkyBmFcDhaicusMFh3fQxPqt8o9NXVE5AUBWPnMUeI tGFFCdVqo51gBaWuvzhnXSMux9KWc6uwYXndK8i2ASlT6Q4KZwbDptIjEeo3VcYxlWA3 9VUglA3gd0aPgRjJMyw7khIRLd2hiCmUwvgVmg2rbgp76Bn12WHoSS9K202qMMab5FVm eANt8R2So4nLMZy53smH2wII4jC8Ez72VTaa2jDKD9LLkmZVJIUrGFMIR39AyPG7vezw H6FVqecYRs6G7wWZgKFAOyRTqtlgZPy/GxrrdW5+t9xlrxvSA9RTSTFDQzMWATUwUtJi T2Xg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=OJoyZQoT8hQY6LnRTdVFLhXKXNlbP/Sl9XLPT8C1Qh8=; b=OJHDL17Y1z6zEOMpDHHwu+brBgEqKMVWf4KAvl7PyXJ/WZV0XmvWqMeWtrKVSrBBe7 GjTfyRRN61sw4xEUNfP6zGmAHMqZf3Kq9hUGqWkEBXr4gs3Fs3hawrhWkWsW7K8iupQv mr8r+Tzd14qNQyIO4HFl7oAZ4djvcwiMfT1Iyi7g8Rw/6lkg9EmBpWvHyKd0rEs/0liH 1LnthR3uuaUzXPZGvwN5HQpLfjtcogOvdLtV3PljKt7OPb/5uLmBKVsSxNyQzkvrnPDq PSXE3qvZ3Vx1bZyjrgCn85CjLYeZT9STJ+7G8sfNzo1osUOmDMny8d9VAzaxfMxSjRZP oY8g== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaWIsaQnsRHA5E8ZxWA95wjQB5T/ZQM3fDNQIZTHyHTt7SOIn4VT rerS6XAQbKEsvuyq56PK5p/6Cav8bJukHXHr02A= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+Sh21DVQch4/Lf7w9DGTvRD4g21dx6f5kDC3NoN8YRPseTjFPIkuBVXeOqes+91P6Z/ILqjLGf0LHQY87YKsiI= X-Received: by 10.223.136.51 with SMTP id d48mr6163406wrd.150.1508675249283; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 05:27:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.150.88 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 05:27:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87bml0qvzr.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87bml0qvzr.fsf@gmx.de> From: Davor Rotim Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:27:28 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1149223850a483055c21d43f" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) --001a1149223850a483055c21d43f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello, I've committed a patch to the emacs-26 branch, which ought to fix > this. Could you pls check? > > Since autoloads are changed, it might be necessary to call 'make -C lisp > autoloads' prior to the usual 'make' call. > I've made a fresh clone of the emacs-26 branch today and built it. Last commit on the branch was: "3aee7be Avoid unnecessary rounding errors in timestamps" The issue still seems to persist (with or without make autoloads before running make). Thank you for your efforts, Davor Rotim --001a1149223850a483055c21d43f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,

I've committed a patch to the emacs-26 branch, which ought to fix=
this. Could you pls check?

Since autoloads are changed, it might be necessary to call 'make -C lis= p
autoloads' prior to the usual 'make' call.

I've made a fresh clone of the emacs-26 branch today an= d built it.
Last commit on the branch was: "3aee7be Avoid un= necessary rounding errors in timestamps"
The issue still= seems to persist (with or without make autoloads before running make).

Thank you for your efforts,

= Davor Rotim
--001a1149223850a483055c21d43f-- From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:21:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28889: 26.0.90; TRAMP and custom file location In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28889 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Davor Rotim Cc: 28889@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 28889-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28889.15087488195222 (code B ref 28889); Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:54:01 +0000 Received: (at 28889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2017 08:53:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56599 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6YUN-0001MA-LW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 04:53:39 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:64216) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6YUL-0001Lr-TX for 28889@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 04:53:38 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.91.242.201]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MexaL-1dqxZz3USn-00Oa32; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:53:30 +0200 From: Michael Albinus References: <87bml0qvzr.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:53:29 +0200 Message-ID: <87po9eqm7q.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:1bvqCO/RgBN3E/iXvdMAwVx/RYtpxdlyi2W5clpGR2cZW76Cvka 7pStmyq7hWzjLwv+FXFH0SY2Ex9dP2CeSS6U1tcX++4MYsTcBT4svLOORoFwCJTtqroeRq7 MyWlrj50msE8egM096N6y3jMy1Afzlxvvb4izLTcQWwsbYV8jcMcoasdGuYBhPZkffqAryu Q0DuSQPx7UgqqSArxu07Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:M4PTsreM7O4=:Z4s55xmOqZkQzZ8mAurK5G U2Fl0mjI/Rw0LXN7Sprg4Phk8fkH7t/4/GERe/wTsjpJV5Lko611CsY5FZORrzLP79aLNBtuB jeA8HG2J1YCAulDutz8sxTlCTQ46nMqpeyOBUo6DmibDoWC/T7v3bga+k5quc/5EkT+AdmsDx eq+Ns2R2l8Qj1MFG4HfC8rk8EmtSmmaJIDarxK9zZYYZ7zdNomU++32dXyha/gfgw7bIH/19S kXNICpmzlHJYVCQUKO9FOqhmfsloTQSODj3Sw1wmzu6uIGwkdm3bCCIqAwRP+dF9yme9Z7Mnb PpJgzVm5w9jIRMRpo693oQRQDhRF7b7/h0D3l9sXGIBFWKG8vDXs1xGu2qP6MexLbx6uKzQZk 0rIphBK7WaKfrot/H3DMbg0SfRP6f55EcI3kO2NiGymaY5WZT2hi/o6zTf6JIH8x5jnfStNb8 1y4IfxEK6bOmWiSi9V0d28+f8yoJDXcn4ziEE7ryJO4cnQ7ybbeHNOQtw6ULn5eEMZE9qy9O9 TQUB2uMfCVirFzVT4yOgOCrLsseOjlv5NB45MajehBmoPbNjIh2SYfz8zk88xpxtrbUILg3el DWDd/LezJn+tUMudiQzXVEWN0JtOjb1/vOBga3rwUrNP74jtWjGsQzwlcNoLcQbCVw89FDQSM S0EQCbHnD6PGllQtiSsQE8m4Zu2H2R8thOd/iYyfgKxS2yCtuqCVgQuwf4AqPMS6dEMjlAcc0 6r9SCNEVeAj+MK4nYHv7DS50PtG8oTHeE1ezz7wVPOnCa2P207mSAS0nB8YsDOTeNqSxKoKDk OtThXrOrl69MwQpRFXaKKRfZm8UlwUxfrA0LMnK2hP+aJCkgio= X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) Davor Rotim writes: > Hello, Hi Davor, > I've made a fresh clone of the emacs-26 branch today and built it. > Last commit on the branch was: "3aee7be Avoid unnecessary rounding > errors in timestamps" > The issue still seems to persist (with or without make autoloads > before running make). I cannot reproduce this. I have moved my .emacs file away, and I have replaced it by what you have shown: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ~/> cat ~/.emacs ;; Begin (package-initialize) (add-to-list 'package-archives '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")) (unless (package-installed-p 'use-package) (package-refresh-contents) (package-install 'use-package)) (eval-when-compile (require 'use-package)) (use-package slime :ensure t) (setq custom-file "~/.emacs.d/custom.el") (load custom-file 'noerror) ;; End --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- There doesn't exist a custom.el file yet: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ~/> ls ~/.emacs.d/custom.el ls: cannot access '/home/albinus/.emacs.d/custom.el': No such file or directory --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Now I call emacs, change for test user option `ange-ftp-xfer-size-msgs', and close it afterwards. The custom.el does not contain any Tramp object: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ~/> ~/src/emacs-26/src/emacs ~/> cat ~/.emacs.d/custom.el (custom-set-variables ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(ange-ftp-xfer-size-msgs "^150 .* connection for .* (\\([0-9]+\\) bytes)")) (custom-set-faces ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. ) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > Thank you for your efforts, > > Davor Rotim Best regards, Michael. From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:21:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28889: 26.0.90; TRAMP and custom file location Resent-From: Davor Rotim Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28889 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Albinus Cc: 28889@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 28889-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28889.150876772111571 (code B ref 28889); Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:09:01 +0000 Received: (at 28889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2017 14:08:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57829 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6dPD-00030Y-NR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:08:41 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f41.google.com ([74.125.82.41]:55227) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6dPC-00030J-6x for 28889@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:08:38 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f41.google.com with SMTP id r68so10127357wmr.3 for <28889@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 07:08:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=RpRlevgQmsNuf35+RxrIeRFP0WOEbHcrLuF7lMp+va8=; b=osAZe5Anw700WOv4tL1/3wfdrMoywAP6G7IOsFMcyk47m89JeYAXSWLIGaplAHYEwn P9d8cYH3tDLGQbYbneKoPqmXi6TSDVahtZbTU0P/6WVAYB7Vn1zheKzHWRxOm8EcXeRr 9Skfp3rAVNPO93SXmwYN0CDEHo8DXhAChY5NsDEPDYritMwfRqPe8joGtBxm6LgWQMit Num7DCzk4ZbW1SkwZho6+bhzD7fGGsF0YDho5bZTSS0G2ITsZuI202D9ymyAcN0gdGc5 PtHwKTIXxODLxiwWUrQ2FKiIldsvmDyzlCdJ60neD0D1agfrD+2sMl1hPZs/lnaDV/11 rBww== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=RpRlevgQmsNuf35+RxrIeRFP0WOEbHcrLuF7lMp+va8=; b=I/zeBWSlwkWnwJeURhUwkI5fvNOujOwAP+Aw+PI0rIktObCWld1YNcVY/ygz7NMR9F kufoq+KBAWYdn1gj3gl90lBDzm8zr2SoiaHMVUn6msu8mO18A6jbRbr0PCk4/13FxBlJ XV1/oHTcgAnxDRWMET1d/KeeVrWBePRfzrG9VgMacF9bDw8hBgWh8EY8VrAoshVyWq50 +C981+zP190GhWlYfXO3d45YM3NAc3eZskwTDWn95lp0O1UmNwtgsJpYKlOnb1IwLQk3 LfAfjPx0UWLpXZ15K4gZ5LVVcd1QMSJCw1HA++NZg9inNPwX2b55s3VkRJFZsXAxUyi8 9nSg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaWfjZjv+sZLv643I7xEn2siHu/MMgy/OwYKgrMT8PNjemcq7Y2y ABWMOyWSIzFBxwnUS4DgA3D+soRWSkZzJ9+uH8w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+RcawDX+iReWMluVf6t2LgCkwRYo3K1abm0BKFlOmF7eTbtSjOQ0dFSWJXUw5BqMplMeasG3+DQFSgThExD18U= X-Received: by 10.28.216.137 with SMTP id p131mr5187143wmg.50.1508767712499; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 07:08:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.150.88 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 07:08:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87po9eqm7q.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87bml0qvzr.fsf@gmx.de> <87po9eqm7q.fsf@gmx.de> From: Davor Rotim Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:08:31 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1145fe108d6094055c375be2" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) --001a1145fe108d6094055c375be2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Michael, the fact that you don't have a "custom.el" written by the end of that init is a bit mysterious. Starting Emacs with the init file I posted will install "use-package" which in turn will install SLIME and at the end "use-package" will write the "package-selected-packages" variable into "custom.el". This has been the default behavior since GNU Emacs 25.1. Using the same init file this is how my ~/emacs.d/elpa directory looks like: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ~ $ ls -l .emacs.d/elpa/ total 28K drwxr-xr-x 4 drot drot 4.0K Oct 23 14:46 archives drwxr-xr-x 2 drot drot 4.0K Oct 23 14:46 bind-key-20161218.1520 drwxr-xr-x 2 drot drot 4.0K Oct 23 14:46 diminish-20170419.1036 drwx------ 3 drot drot 4.0K Oct 23 14:46 gnupg drwxr-xr-x 2 drot drot 4.0K Oct 23 14:46 macrostep-20161120.1306 drwxr-xr-x 5 drot drot 4.0K Oct 23 14:46 slime-20170929.1441 drwxr-xr-x 2 drot drot 4.0K Oct 23 14:46 use-package-20171013.1548 --8<---------------cut here---------------end------------->8--- And these are the contents of the custom.el file: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ~ $ cat .emacs.d/custom.el (custom-set-variables ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(package-selected-packages (quote (slime use-package))) '(tramp-syntax (quote default) nil (tramp))) (custom-set-faces ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. ) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- The TRAMP line still gets added. Even if I try without "use-package" the results are the same: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (package-initialize) (add-to-list 'package-archives '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")) (unless (package-installed-p 'slime) (package-refresh-contents) (package-install 'slime)) (setq custom-file (locate-user-emacs-file "custom.el")) (load custom-file 'noerror) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- The only "cure" for this is to use the new approach introduced with GNU Emacs 25.1: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (package-initialize) (add-to-list 'package-archives '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")) (setq package-selected-packages '(slime)) (unless package-archive-contents (package-refresh-contents)) (package-install-selected-packages) (setq custom-file (locate-user-emacs-file "custom.el")) (load custom-file 'noerror) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- This will avoid writing the custom.el file with the "package-selected-packages" variable since it's already there and no TRAMP variable will be added to the custom.el file. So in short, it seems that the "tramp-syntax" variable gets caught along with "package-selected-packages" and it gets written to the custom file whenever we use "package-install" or "use-package" (which also uses "package-install") instead of "package-install-selected-packages". This didn't happen wtih GNU Emacs 25.3, why it happens now I don't know. Thank you again, Davor Rotim --001a1145fe108d6094055c375be2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Michael,

the fact that you don't have a "custom.el" written by the e= nd of that init is a bit mysterious.
Starting Emacs with the init = file I posted will install "use-package" which in turn will insta= ll SLIME
and at the end "use-package" will write the &qu= ot;package-selected-packages" variable into "custom.el".
This has been the default behavior since GNU Emacs 25.1.
Us= ing the same init file this is how my ~/emacs.d/elpa directory looks like:<= br>
--8<---------------cut here---------------start-------------= >8---
~ $ ls -l .emacs.d/elpa/
total 28K
drwxr-xr-x 4 drot drot= 4.0K Oct 23 14:46 archives
drwxr-xr-x 2 drot drot 4.0K Oct 23 14:46 bin= d-key-20161218.1520
drwxr-xr-x 2 drot drot 4.0K Oct 23 14:46 diminish-20= 170419.1036
drwx------ 3 drot drot 4.0K Oct 23 14:46 gnupg
drwxr-xr-x= 2 drot drot 4.0K Oct 23 14:46 macrostep-20161120.1306
drwxr-xr-x 5 drot= drot 4.0K Oct 23 14:46 slime-20170929.1441
drwxr-xr-x 2 drot drot 4.0K = Oct 23 14:46 use-package-20171013.1548
--8<---------------= cut here---------------end------------->8---

An= d these are the contents of the custom.el file:

--8<-------------= --cut here---------------start------------->8---
~ $ cat .emacs.= d/custom.el
(custom-set-variables
=C2=A0;; custom-set-variables was a= dded by Custom.
=C2=A0;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, s= o be careful.
=C2=A0;; Your init file should contain only one such insta= nce.
=C2=A0;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
= =C2=A0'(package-selected-packages (quote (slime use-package)))
=C2= =A0'(tramp-syntax (quote default) nil (tramp)))
(custom-set-faces=C2=A0;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom.
=C2=A0;; If you edit it = by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
=C2=A0;; Your init file sh= ould contain only one such instance.
=C2=A0;; If there is more than one,= they won't work right.
=C2=A0)
--8<---------------cut = here---------------end--------------->8---

The TRAMP l= ine still gets added.
Even if I try without "use-package"= ; the results are the same:

--8<---------------cut here----------= -----start------------->8---
(package-initialize)
(add-to-lis= t 'package-archives
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/"))

(unles= s (package-installed-p 'slime)
=C2=A0 (package-refresh-contents)
= =C2=A0 (package-install 'slime))

(setq custom-file (locate-user-= emacs-file "custom.el"))
(load custom-file 'noerror)
--= 8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---<= div>

The only "cure" for this is to use t= he new approach introduced with GNU Emacs 25.1:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8= ---
(package-initialize)
(add-to-list 'package-archives
=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 '(&q= uot;melpa" . "https://mel= pa.org/packages/"))

(setq package-selected-packages '(s= lime))

(unless package-archive-contents
=C2=A0 (package-refresh-c= ontents))
(package-install-selected-packages)

(setq custom-file (= locate-user-emacs-file "custom.el"))
(load custom-file 'no= error)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end------------= --->8---

This will avoid writing the custom.el = file with the "package-selected-packages" variable since it's= already there
and no TRAMP variable will be added to the custom.= el file.
So in short, it seems that the "tramp-syntax" = variable gets caught along with "package-selected-packages"
=
and it gets written to the custom file whenever we use "package-i= nstall" or "use-package" (which also uses "package-inst= all")
instead of "package-install-selected-packages= ".
This didn't happen wtih GNU Emacs 25.3, why it happen= s now I don't know.

Thank you again,
=

Davor Rotim
--001a1145fe108d6094055c375be2-- From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:21:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28889: 26.0.90; TRAMP and custom file location Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28889 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Davor Rotim Cc: 28889@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 28889-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28889.150876838412558 (code B ref 28889); Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:20:02 +0000 Received: (at 28889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2017 14:19:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57835 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6dZw-0003GU-3e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:19:44 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:50171) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6dZu-0003GF-6O for 28889@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:19:42 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.91.242.201]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Ln8gj-1dY6he06xx-00hPTV; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:19:35 +0200 From: Michael Albinus References: <87bml0qvzr.fsf@gmx.de> <87po9eqm7q.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:19:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Davor Rotim's message of "Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:08:31 +0200") Message-ID: <87h8uqgd56.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:HMdAcqcbgd5OrNQr9TPm4pZznKx280KgnqN9xSQDbeekk3NQGGu aj5GqaAWLTedP3WjtkMmGwD9c4es01JmaO5TzNtGozqQi2+3c3bM/+oPZYweF3Ma6MjC6vs Kv52u97azbMTUR8e6Wr8pwU5Xy2gvQF9SXpoc7fUDDZ3y1DBNmezykrklAYosZRut5SkKXM hCZfJUte/o4g/LzfzyFsA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:KOCNX4n7oKE=:GUm1Aot62+o11Gu5nTsFLH vlxgRmRB2kG4SCohwXtVOq4E3MwBmqTLQmcnninwF9DJY999XAbgTJEUSpltzgId2XtYmB/5q NzN0SmtWgPyQakNc4H/Ckb531txRqoQ46uVtad6POcc4jYc8Cm7c6bKIIR/s8iaY3Rm0U2v3a ybWirHH9/iPxWroMfq69f1uSVb+2/xyoyKGZ9uwBYRo/Wh7GmGxDAmvoT/GOfYPSF6sQlrV95 exFcgobCJ89wavu+1A5PFiUsVZKiJB/heYyVZcOcUTV1N8kXuTB30Ba06ZeVkqJx6L1GpBJj9 jrZizauVP+vWaRd2EgGFQfgyq8reBXeIm4hg7+Z41msd18RNc+ZGYYhJO7inGajrTaKuo9MWY uTwEeYjyO79xXN96epCzerSnnoIXfiFmiMF2VJw3zJoAokvkoxO5GrIncc0zcHb5dzg7U7kKp J1Hy19wTItHE3LxEskpuIi7/LcRcpbIS3sQ9NyWprLGcgamXAN9qamCFtb8azqxWqiSGKI2VA AKjqDBmxU4KstRE45VoIzmHRQmikfn2E0loIdSZPyCuJ5xVGL7tWpxRWR2PEW/CaVFCIbjhZs 6oxwEMuUHfkJ+MiiFCdJqREYsWaQhrHNMgZWUZI5pPqJtIeh5HWCygqjMYpRPU7UlT8g5B6Xf hiiHRzhgxXafJvfD5rL2yPjWs2ed0AwOmeoO/TCX2rwuaE5Akbtv3UGMnofR22d+OBw+PTdHp XNq6mZt5epWXWQ0slVvcEQiOfURxfM4wA0EzEUhgB+3xU08PkPH4mG1G1l/gPJALgRHWIkCT7 m7yj5dN/xKPvfI7c5cNRLAY/tlD9ModNpa8KniswmtBGpcZ6vY= X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) Davor Rotim writes: > Hi Michael, Hi Davor, > the fact that you don't have a "custom.el" written by the end of that > init is a bit mysterious. Have you started with a non-existing custom.el, as I did? I believe, Emacs remembers existing settings at startup. > Thank you again, > > Davor Rotim Best regards, Michael. From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:21:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28889: 26.0.90; TRAMP and custom file location Resent-From: Davor Rotim Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28889 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Albinus Cc: 28889@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 28889-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28889.150876884013227 (code B ref 28889); Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:28:02 +0000 Received: (at 28889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2017 14:27:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57839 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6dhH-0003RH-SG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:27:20 -0400 Received: from mail-wr0-f181.google.com ([209.85.128.181]:51001) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6dhG-0003R5-SM for 28889@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:27:19 -0400 Received: by mail-wr0-f181.google.com with SMTP id p96so3710964wrb.7 for <28889@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 07:27:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=sfLBMwoCgU4TORwZlmQvMJO58NeHbVnCefB+a7I7V2I=; b=sPQKLK4YNd2LwEVx5R6BrUbIB+8YEihXoQUlQhV6XBBQuaJmOGVkUIZ6Mczyt2+VMX fEYUfzsT5dM7pgnFCDYMDYzbC8uWIfOsirp5JU1i08GwOd2h3cieOSS1QiqdbU0k+AQn gSLZ5qR73j9KnxxNBkx6wL5n0ib0r3pi+2+55+Zg7sTtIt7XL2YFNCuP+wpmYj9/pY/P hGYpqLgzepLHLMv5GW4NII74SPt4F2FKYaih8pko3E04ac5+1UBiLOv2S7K8xGqu+FAt H9HHkwBclAT0TJHEw/yXqbDatjUm+YUdC1n8qZkFLygwbmYpvodphwGWsYZvAQGFiUJQ X9jw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=sfLBMwoCgU4TORwZlmQvMJO58NeHbVnCefB+a7I7V2I=; b=TaGIE40CQAXsQyKXUsUQ5iPe4N/vov/ooJw0j4pbTPpEHxv7QQEwFjzxa1oOnNq5Rp w32OpLu9adKwZU/aPIF1AqGJd4M1F311nFwBcS8ou9wsRvAL442DWF0mooET+CDWQtF2 2G8z+z24N7YvrcfTOnyaD5VcGrIf5cpeX67Bu1SBNNi8KSffJNaZRJuNhiBGHQTFoZBJ JmwQ6KgUNuKiX8WZ9+Vxyp5Jne/kVp7xGOFNAfOqaP2We06Dj9KLzlXmSK3quXH9HdxE zWTr4SLwB6El339EdKbVQGk7hGNSmG6q2gcWt6oQ1Mp2rI6N6yjebgpIvl+sq4O7+mLC 6sNA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaX2VTQjTe6BT+7s9PqmyWlS9UE2IZ5piVq9cjBuoy5u+8Wv+trB FdyCnkCEy4v5CPt/WP5GsyENV34ZnVqJN+CYbsY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+TVdrgu6+y5aF4rWISMs76iZgL27e+gTXjxwUBNqrGIVmw/Pdws2rPNqjpB7+pAJFmpF3TN2T8qcUkH2/7sedo= X-Received: by 10.223.136.51 with SMTP id d48mr8813832wrd.150.1508768833169; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 07:27:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.150.88 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 07:27:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87h8uqgd56.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87bml0qvzr.fsf@gmx.de> <87po9eqm7q.fsf@gmx.de> <87h8uqgd56.fsf@gmx.de> From: Davor Rotim Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:27:12 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11492238596e0c055c379ec7" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) --001a11492238596e0c055c379ec7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Michael, Have you started with a non-existing custom.el, as I did? I believe, > Emacs remembers existing settings at startup. Yes that is correct, this was starting only with init.el present in the ~/emacs.d directory. package.el will create custom.el after that to write the "package-selected-packages" variable. Kind regards, Davor Rotim --001a11492238596e0c055c379ec7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Michael,

Have you started with a non-existing custom.el, as I = did? I believe,
Emacs remembers existing settings at startup.

Yes that is correct, this was starting only with init.el present in the = ~/emacs.d directory.
package.el will create custom.el after that = to write the "package-selected-packages" variable.
=
Kind regards,

Davor Rotim
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--001a11492238596e0c055c379ec7-- From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:21:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28889: 26.0.90; TRAMP and custom file location Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28889 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Davor Rotim Cc: 28889@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 28889-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28889.150876939614132 (code B ref 28889); Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:37:01 +0000 Received: (at 28889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2017 14:36:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57845 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6dqF-0003fr-P4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:36:35 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:57184) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6dqD-0003fe-QL for 28889@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:36:34 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.91.242.201]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lh6sJ-1dS1cr2KEJ-00oYhs; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:36:26 +0200 From: Michael Albinus References: <87bml0qvzr.fsf@gmx.de> <87po9eqm7q.fsf@gmx.de> <87h8uqgd56.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:36:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Davor Rotim's message of "Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:27:12 +0200") Message-ID: <87d15egcd2.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:iZv3HpHJBAge+SKmRefEhDwdw92Ac3bHXchnEHsgA2KY/mBnxcQ lIYLE/M5FIXdGrATwmaLRysmGUQ6Gs7HoaL8LKSlatgyeWqwplsXMjBoAC3fVYWBwZIoD3h xLLf+Vm4cUmZxY2V8JYyG3M4q6C/lJtXYgRYy99+f2IVQmkdIOtTCyUHFlx64mctdmugEA4 08Ryqn8Nt8v/2SCElr0sA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:1pMdIuY2djE=:TuhS45/COEL6Sz0XU4ZQGj 1fhixSAfMNT6GHHldvheBoFQ+VTU5ePzm9FoKJ8UInGoBKMbj4GDa96zRlImDpCunIgkXGX0r 6Vgwo7AtLaUXHnNJocmG8GLJ/wM+eGt1Kof8JQQUrGfPG+n1NL8tIfyGYNHS1DxJGJd2dKsG6 mOZJRlCaa6lDflVIH+5ocvmvHH4hR3/7anqaGy1AbXT6Jm93CMpF6/yJ5ia+GAxQYb4TqQrQ+ 5WtB0UP3F1dyFygnBWcUM8YLHOD7DAmc1Shvmz8/Ubs4WrHBrDnT6PY/F6GBJluP/1APbmj2h AYgmFwVgFNsrq5gqa4OOtvXqmGBpo+8vzHsCXjKE9+5SqbmuJB+feuWOruxJd7lBtjNBTgscw NHsJ0doDQt4nHZNLiYHNHinRKAJESgxk3m4FKU5md1pxYDX6RSQ63KslymuSfx1qWh9hZufuj 2GSjgbFzWFhGOVq7dlsufIQIugee9wuw+logjsKmFFkEgBrunKdSx9aII/2Mb0gIgxMCGj021 tvXGsaapnYbf/ILqvNfmtbggL+WIwqEBg5g5DlvCePpISlvtnit8Q2RlaUZgJ2+2zuadCi9IH 3a4lMO6pEF+fG52tz7vVOB/EujE7rmPQ5TK5V1AQwuoCEaxPwhz9tS1MfqR4orZOwpcunuzwH /QuG+RyGrCNADVFD02PPI5gooApXbihmdK3InaxpEZvD5Bz3PzIraer6+7BqGAzdMZlJNoiUY GpwVh0kVGRJaRD+sFKh92n2vqa25jI2ruCzzx+Nw6aCslbTm/buYZ9R1CO5m9zycNZfvQf91A QDKJGgDLM/lEuXwRveN36PULII6i3sDjLWISsHOaH1NMCW6ubA= X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) Davor Rotim writes: > Hi Michael, Hi Davor, > Yes that is correct, this was starting only with init.el present in > the ~/emacs.d directory. > package.el will create custom.el after that to write the > "package-selected-packages" variable. But I still don't get why Tramp is added to `custom-set-variables' in your case. Maybe a side effect of a loaded package? Could you temporarily move away ~/.emacs.d/elpa, and remove ~/.emacs.d/custom.el prior starting Emacs? And could we concentrate on testing just Emacs 26.0.90? > Kind regards, > > Davor Rotim Best regards, Michael. From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:21:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28889: 26.0.90; TRAMP and custom file location Resent-From: Davor Rotim Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28889 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Albinus Cc: 28889@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 28889-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28889.150877049815788 (code B ref 28889); Mon, 23 Oct 2017 14:55:01 +0000 Received: (at 28889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2017 14:54:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57855 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6e82-00046a-LM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:54:58 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f51.google.com ([74.125.82.51]:54076) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6e80-00046N-4z for 28889@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:54:56 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f51.google.com with SMTP id q132so10361378wmd.2 for <28889@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 07:54:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=RuiDEVcrm7G4ObAzzzHd38+v7bJUUmW4NX19IcC1HDw=; b=RnXM/kGTaYxsEZjGP6FEEq2rJ4PmZsq9Go/L0+9/MeK/1Zg2eYjOXlazZbTo356z/u oEN/2fU8B3BxAdCoxAwyWuwZ1I2bnQJ96BmLML6qqf2Bf4vp8eStfB4q6IoFQA4Fq5/O jM6wql6E4oHRfE93kDG5dQJQFKy0pbmdu3cScEEXxu/AC5O3TLTX4K2MGzX3ABqDDQWE plocb2mzn9qFldC1OvdgqOx8gdcfkw0+28avI5QggPdfni2iLSoiJ+mdiRA9zpZSh4G5 i+KkgXVg8yNWmCXxH8uVZE4+hChUP/E9TqPoiuAotUc93jvS1LALMCzFUYheB1JnxjyN elmw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=RuiDEVcrm7G4ObAzzzHd38+v7bJUUmW4NX19IcC1HDw=; b=jyAo2anNnm1ssGNz4A1aZGe3J+cZaNwQTlBfPnCereM6FXIXQot+2OC4JIuH6yDRTl nL9GnehCVZnHoNQhdvumxd7zTaUx/wXBtxwY/nowL69mpGD106/tF8Ocq22K5/6fZsis sWop41UjUWHj6H/s88cesQLN072q1sfySwplawaQrYAiPTc+LUK4EaWH81v/aQahHDPs +2FaZ2nMJovDt1PYUWyz4qTxDHHrej9gr9AApGARhw+ZyvB40WjBKzJktoPT7qDiVWPE SX0+V9Y4i3Qgh+IsyHKqROMTQCmHnzMw+eqP5AMAUmwWnwG2TG1A5N8NL4JFfG2ERIEr fkBw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUjhoRtQwgnRA6HxowNZY98fMWOaPqUqXZARe5rm1Lm2yj9dkxY CqSeAlf8riIxZcjROpp6W8Ji/LiB9hE76j3eqFY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+SWsBNQNOTO8QF8ap2nyULYlJTlk9R5E7zmgN/FCuss1GoCX+ynrfp5cJbwPWSztsEqGS5NLqbruXGaKrKJ12A= X-Received: by 10.28.206.142 with SMTP id e136mr5188465wmg.27.1508770490413; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 07:54:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.150.88 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 07:54:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87d15egcd2.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87bml0qvzr.fsf@gmx.de> <87po9eqm7q.fsf@gmx.de> <87h8uqgd56.fsf@gmx.de> <87d15egcd2.fsf@gmx.de> From: Davor Rotim Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:54:49 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c192b2020f828055c380117" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) --94eb2c192b2020f828055c380117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Michael, First image displays what I have in the directory and version: https://0x0.st/sr3V.png Second image displays what I have in the init: https://0x0.st/sr3W.png I run emacs -nw and it installs SLIME: https://0x0.st/sr3J.png Final image is what I have when I quit Emacs: https://0x0.st/sr3v.png I have no previous versions of Emacs installed. Kind regards, Davor Rotim --94eb2c192b2020f828055c380117 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Michael,

First image= displays what I have in the directory and version:

Second image displays what I have in the init:

I run emacs -nw and it installs SLIME:

Final= image is what I have when I quit Emacs:

I have= no previous versions of Emacs installed.

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Davor Rotim
--94eb2c192b2020f828055c380117-- From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:21:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28889: 26.0.90; TRAMP and custom file location Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28889 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Davor Rotim Cc: 28889@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 28889-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28889.150877271419194 (code B ref 28889); Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:32:01 +0000 Received: (at 28889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2017 15:31:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57873 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6ehm-0004zW-0F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 11:31:54 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:62003) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6ehk-0004zI-0K for 28889@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 11:31:52 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.91.242.201]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MPZuP-1eBLXN2fQn-004kQx; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:31:44 +0200 From: Michael Albinus References: <87bml0qvzr.fsf@gmx.de> <87po9eqm7q.fsf@gmx.de> <87h8uqgd56.fsf@gmx.de> <87d15egcd2.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:31:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Davor Rotim's message of "Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:54:49 +0200") Message-ID: <878tg1hodc.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:PeZbkTOwIX+USQ4mvTr4LltGlsYWQ18YTmV+avS9/81X3m6mH9W 06kRNzx4For4n63xVDCL5OpZ/nF4Dx9TVHDAo2GOFOtNaUTbNNYKHxvrkMHM+wRp7iFWJrn d43hn8fHvbdSAs8jTUWZarapg4IyBjD2jT4abP6Ee4lxVoUej/BVKSNRfuAHp1PTVpVG/q3 UAet15VmX4+9rTwLaFmXQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:pimxqyBmbus=:8Z//KBu5YXRyNtDOILB+yv QS91ilq51MjL4u6iRwmHIM/DiX44A4+WETinjv5vge3uQk4gy3bat8JP84ayRdYoXHSXzdWQK 4WWnMBTfFI6+G/+aJqP4XVkQ2mqkIQwoVFrJ5VyWPPNdPhhFeTPTfpYjL0UIv5pBBFsUlQt3C eZzapjY5p53DImkN/EE66wXfF+eQ6mwNzGwaLyEtwIHf4LzYIJSYh0rYtmpJCjAHBxjgCtRun BmfYv3WYqlgtJ26bPX9KEy0j/OoAT0urpVCSx1NoL0dzYitzXdTPhJYTh7k6XnoNFCG10uQqt 05ImEDTW0vXKWRYr6Fm1CRVG5115C0H+OcweLiTlb85822PM4fAJmdra7CkQWaVysbjt2lVLs lVDLH3HGY9c2YNYin0vjT5safO1mx/2y9tkijlrmwC3NUW0DK5wHwq+ipZHKScCvqhBR27VjI dQf+iDjftprnWm1RNEvyfVb+jTWQsdhVxZdg4wRXN0pwnF8pwPip169oWZIS4b9jgaIURoO1t 1HRZ7pAUI7eeqpT6cnL//5OGNm/p1TtoHCC3cmSsRa4UKgm4mry8hayAsaFXJevWaodY+GcRn bCG00ZPoa75gCDfjLcJ7eLiJGIYtUzSYmEq15lT99U/ryOdg+PYbhAxtze0WBx6KgAjrCU6Cf qZOD5AVr951i/5dK5udL6NcFqOWk8EBJ7H7Xu3zqeN7I+pvuaL2J01uD1bDG/tHI8NKLs8VLg 6wjmj8Ru5lRJ8IWzh+KDRWRQoVosmNA9FTAXOsKSSov/qOumxGKvi4ENyly4ArC4OgQEiLY0r BOKPYjvTMyqKsuc0KyrBOn6DdyLBNJGL9mW8cIkcGApf+8F+Kw= X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) Davor Rotim writes: > Hi Michael, Hi Davor, > First image displays what I have in the directory and version: > https://0x0.st/sr3V.png > > Second image displays what I have in the init: > https://0x0.st/sr3W.png > > I run emacs -nw and it installs SLIME: > https://0x0.st/sr3J.png > > Final image is what I have when I quit Emacs: > https://0x0.st/sr3v.png > > I have no previous versions of Emacs installed. Everything looks good. But we see different results. Let's play with "emacs -Q". I do the following: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ rm ~/.emacs.d/custom.el $ ~/src/emacs-26/src/emacs -Q --eval '(setq custom-file "~/.emacs.d/custom.el" user-init-file "/dev/null")' --eval "(custom-set-variables '(smtpmail-smtp-service 25))" --eval "(require 'cus-edit)" --eval "(custom-save-all)" $ cat ~/.emacs.d/custom.el --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- You see, there is no custom Tramp setting, just `smtpmail-smtp-service' which I have taken as example. Now, you must run the settings in your init files line by line, and try to find out which form is adding the Tramp user option. I would claim that Tramp itself is innocent. > Kind regards, > > Davor Rotim Best regards, Michael. From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:21:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28889: 26.0.90; TRAMP and custom file location Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28889 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Davor Rotim Cc: 28889@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 28889-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28889.150877462521974 (code B ref 28889); Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:04:01 +0000 Received: (at 28889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2017 16:03:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57883 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6fCb-0005iM-1c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 12:03:45 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:57956) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6fCZ-0005i7-5y for 28889@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 12:03:43 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.91.242.201]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MWkep-1diHcx0GDL-00XqFs; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 18:03:36 +0200 From: Michael Albinus References: <87bml0qvzr.fsf@gmx.de> <87po9eqm7q.fsf@gmx.de> <87h8uqgd56.fsf@gmx.de> <87d15egcd2.fsf@gmx.de> <878tg1hodc.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 18:03:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: <878tg1hodc.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:31:43 +0200") Message-ID: <874lqphmw9.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:0xe2859ApJVvxELjvZI1BM9FSED2ky4BkSi888O8c4qBVkuVbeA +n9VJLAowUD1e9qKEfbJXfntFB807AMOBbC+P1JSXYkebcsnq8REshU0989iTmJKAlw07mo D8UTY+utycwxZZEkZ3ASren4Cb2+Dtbulj10R9wcjUkkitRJjxX42OkYME4E4dHOf+PVm0H mTQ49qYNd507uFju1QVyQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:UHJZOVW/3jc=:MhrMSN/ty8kfXYUdE9QFzU wEO1SC+iQSR034m0a+FBCVVyCaQGK29Xp258bc5QR4EeJQO3/O9VPiUC1hVcFfIga0nyl6Fyd 0phFbsAze/SFQlAfZkpnix2FcFuR/vUc6VQbnLIicTknJK9dlghDu8PguIJmI+MFsl7ltkwQH qs/yMrBHsWXrQZob2oWxB8R+DjxbtIB1WihkM3SXla75Wumu8tsNFO6R0DTRIyrrNvAURO5ZD OsG8Fw0I1saHX8NCN1mzMinEdFixo6R76EXuxRgiqqo9CMWbV5/v6at87BrvWXYYZlNk+HxVx IZGiUUq/ZxT25HTT34t0+N18dPxpMh8wDmFZ9o4tgF//LF5T9XBI569e6Zg22oJ6+AZGil8n2 QfhLDYAWhlzN+PvMLfVJa1Cly2EZtoSiFeyZVIQrRVuYJsqBYyMthKQ1ZJ4VFnCqBINDJ4Zbo H/NPAc5W2eT5FESSrg3QxFxL9ChPFers4iCg9vWOe3Q6tPs6LpY9DFrbVpWORiSibvPtVkwvP Xp7bNXCeLLy6Hf+8BmHfycoHwHv0IflSviKN9pbo/7XbbAmGJqwYXVvz0uVkPykarRrM4rH/r 92XFTO6kIC33Kmz5vWf+HqxHmbIv+cG3EW/DaFHRE/5nzZ1YhXwDxiaobqIOwUPCF5Exbzm7T Jddn+27JxToMtvDXB3pXHucZE9m41JCCfMGMBfBd09g02Bd9/FYpZL6EYfL15hiXh8ePkgNlU xTWaRS9FBu1DgnkmTSAp/7Ufg8PCP9AMrOJXuSZRBlYSGl9U3cpb7K2zmj0IiC+K1SfeOGVA+ /U5xZm2E6VhlffDXt3ew4w/rFZHub8aTREMQu7RGoO+zqIFE0A= X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) Michael Albinus writes: Hi Davor, > I would claim that Tramp itself is innocent. Wait, maybe I've found something which is related. I've committed a new patch to the emacs-26 branch; could you pls check with this? Best regards, Michael. From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:21:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28889: 26.0.90; TRAMP and custom file location Resent-From: Davor Rotim Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28889 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Albinus Cc: 28889@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 28889-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28889.150877807827291 (code B ref 28889); Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:02:02 +0000 Received: (at 28889) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2017 17:01:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57912 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6g6I-000767-4n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 13:01:18 -0400 Received: from mail-wr0-f176.google.com ([209.85.128.176]:45262) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6g6H-00075t-3D for 28889@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 13:01:17 -0400 Received: by mail-wr0-f176.google.com with SMTP id y9so5888205wrb.2 for <28889@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:01:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=HkcRYHwCaySUCEMVLyLtvbh5tMkjvd+Zfz0dhUXs8Ow=; b=a2LKINd5FM/QJE1f0+I7d503wy8C7unuG2Gy0bkN5IYZEwnh/VBT7VB+OlDW76kgMq K0hjiXDd2CDFpOuJkg3U0+SqjAw8yHz5mMYhAJmjLcWwGaqxiPtlmVK6cPB0J21F/znx Bh2d3tt3Tj2BDW3fWSClbPhfp5nGs68q1oyoOUUDWFIcrx8gSy7mz/ppLKjV62iHa+GW xmRNYUiVNmSRQHkl+giMAQzDGpH38H8yZHMq9H0mTUIyga/7e/SJNnjWXhRmSl1IYgMk Ye6dH20FoRqVRpmz3TqDcqrjZpXg2tc1dDkA1b8qkuMXPNzbk+4xWvEN11XUVUYXYd+K NJpg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=HkcRYHwCaySUCEMVLyLtvbh5tMkjvd+Zfz0dhUXs8Ow=; b=WC1AuZPBpddprAZMr6+EinWVCvZ9L7KbR3NKzgNj75diTzu2nsvdAsE5AkpMFGvKbp VbaLcno8ufj5kgI2AZSqfvVh7QTt5ILqjg1/mPkIt7pLVmOOMWc0J4JZSHpsrZfB44Mb ERp0pKeNCcSMoewYxeiFm1a9BgiGi/8ZwcvcctlCkkuRYKMGIjkA2JnFwG+iL/UaQnFy o3voROYGH1AU6x/QhiNbtkqx+O5UPUec+qPdqVRoCbvCxB9FDT7UxfPMXmOZoRe7k/Wv pm9U2iw0UtxLC39LT7TkJyhijAi2pQrtwZh1wHASysaJH95vaGA1i+4haxQtAgm5iA1L i2vA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUZCXqBaM3fuG+3RolCG1dse7fcbTmil4RJF2iKvX2u96Q/Ysqz YULdXBP+gYmBfAmodqR1rk7FZC/Pj5y2twZtJ1o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+SxbI51Rp/jJDWgS55HjqXsFAqsl13EKOcYtGuSWsWhP960igT31T7cXEHC2Ajb08qK9n2Rx7mCeTg5Wk32Iuo= X-Received: by 10.223.144.226 with SMTP id i89mr11550141wri.217.1508778071207; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:01:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.150.88 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 10:01:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <874lqphmw9.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87bml0qvzr.fsf@gmx.de> <87po9eqm7q.fsf@gmx.de> <87h8uqgd56.fsf@gmx.de> <87d15egcd2.fsf@gmx.de> <878tg1hodc.fsf@gmx.de> <874lqphmw9.fsf@gmx.de> From: Davor Rotim Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 19:01:10 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c05f482fab46a055c39c4c0" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) --94eb2c05f482fab46a055c39c4c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Michael, I can confirm that your latest commit fixed the issue. Thanks once again, Davor Rotim --94eb2c05f482fab46a055c39c4c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Hi Michael,

I can confirm that your latest commit fixed the issue.

Thanks once again,

Davor Rotim
--94eb2c05f482fab46a055c39c4c0-- From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:21:36 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Davor Rotim Subject: bug#28889: closed (Re: bug#28889: 26.0.90; TRAMP and custom file location) Message-ID: References: <87zi8hg424.fsf@gmx.de> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 28889 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 28889@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:36:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1508780162-5147-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1508780162-5147-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #28889: 26.0.90; TRAMP and custom file location which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 28889@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 28889: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D28889 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1508780162-5147-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 28889-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2017 17:35:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57951 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6gdp-0001Kk-V6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 13:35:58 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:63932) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6gdn-0001KV-Sa for 28889-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 13:35:56 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.91.242.201]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LnPSg-1dYBxq2fXC-00hiAt; Mon, 23 Oct 2017 19:35:48 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Davor Rotim Subject: Re: bug#28889: 26.0.90; TRAMP and custom file location References: <87bml0qvzr.fsf@gmx.de> <87po9eqm7q.fsf@gmx.de> <87h8uqgd56.fsf@gmx.de> <87d15egcd2.fsf@gmx.de> <878tg1hodc.fsf@gmx.de> <874lqphmw9.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 19:35:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Davor Rotim's message of "Mon, 23 Oct 2017 19:01:10 +0200") Message-ID: <87zi8hg424.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:85YXoUadyHQ9PVWdZxxEiZPWcp4cL1rElTHZmSXSm8k78BWcbgX 0MvmLEQwXKbB2FB0qyB1iG1Zf/to8Ihb8KlsFB4k20kezWL/BuBhOFDE60ARCpsbvwzLnRV TARaHcB06ph8FkpKzHD+WAxzu5w8J8gTFyfIW+2W0Hf2vXnUBvcJjLkkYDSdwsHjoS/cEcW VbuG+KdqYADmZyMSY24Cg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:y4mSxyKPDpE=:cp7m+drk3gy4PdA6QowI5/ ocykxdKQmU13s4hdkBqrHaU6rd0iKgT487FM48SBsl83Wh5eKr2/hYcuaICz98d3YJMQRoSKg aKfWwjEOV6+vCNyGMUivoM0KhuraB1I8W37zmrXAeo98i8WadJmZDQmY2hBFqb6OHiYgsskkk haoI0ECZRSntM4y+kWSYWpkf3EZFq4xaRNAPX2f4BL6THy8lgU/b3IC/nhdkM3tcrNTNvCgE6 6sCm+EAlfOGltQkEGWxi1dS6wTS7qgGoLb0Hww9pH4nSw1NBzOSn+vbjn/OL3M2MDtkD1hxsc edz89wCeWFJMvru0OJze4sUp+o79oYaiZMy7iDjAaZMnKWBeDFIvFCRZhvaCrSVflfbH2H0eA IJAmKu22XQYq+ufPWiYtm8dQEptQJ84WutX3bQkd2nfRh1k02S7IoaV+SNyqESKj+VJcJu6VE QXFznTb9Ao+qkeiLgDT0G2xcnnsTmr60+jl6bSbrR9usm5TdnPGa6khMtHTv9NtBFIP2TmZig IL/av/GTwhQgbBVvfHb3oGfiXaBXmlVFpbnEWqY7IWlLAGbILQroBvZR91pf53TdTXtzBAIbp Xu3vVuD6kz05FtUzgnkwummPiQlou6olCWdBTiT0DBvaFz2slpQAbEhdXgK73K4AgJEMpz5JC Ju3XMophTeg2gh4FX4FG42Ug9iWLbtaBb3Nfi0FFhx5PpZpptDn+hAch2P14a4LqFGmedR+D1 GDQA6F0tvuuxX8uh7V2YPRDgoFFFXMkkZbAaOJI8gkZmMnn75A9M0DTzX9FuQamVutEDI1Vs9 XlXTtV3YzbbRwyQBCRVU3lmtMkUHEkcj21TnF8tFrwT+BLqFvw= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 28889-done Cc: 28889-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Version: 26.1 Davor Rotim writes: > Hi Michael, Hi Davor, > I can confirm that your latest commit fixed the issue. 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) --94eb2c06388a5a2ac0055bcfc33c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Consider the following init file: ;; Begin (package-initialize) (add-to-list 'package-archives '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")) (unless (package-installed-p 'use-package) (package-refresh-contents) (package-install 'use-package)) (eval-when-compile (require 'use-package)) (use-package slime :ensure t) (setq custom-file "~/.emacs.d/custom.el") (load custom-file 'noerror) ;; End This will produce a following custom.el file: (custom-set-variables ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(package-selected-packages (quote (slime use-package))) '(tramp-syntax (quote default) nil (tramp))) (custom-set-faces ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. ) For some reason the tramp-syntax line gets added which causes TRAMP to load at startup, this didn't happen with GNU Emacs 25.3 and it slows down startup while it gets loaded unnecessarily. This only happens if I specify a custom-file location, if those two last lines are deleted then the TRAMP line doesn't get added to the init file: ;; Begin (package-initialize) (add-to-list 'package-archives '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")) (unless (package-installed-p 'use-package) (package-refresh-contents) (package-install 'use-package)) (eval-when-compile (require 'use-package)) (use-package slime :ensure t) (custom-set-variables ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(package-selected-packages (quote (slime use-package))) '(tramp-syntax (quote default) nil (tramp))) (custom-set-faces ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. ) ;; End So far this happens only with SLIME and Cider packages. In GNU Emacs 26.0.90 (build 1, i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.24) of 2017-10-13 built on lambda Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11905000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux unstable (sid) Recent messages: Loading /home/drot/.emacs.d/custom.el (source)... Loading tramp...done Loading /home/drot/.emacs.d/custom.el (source)...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Configured using: 'configure 'CFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-strong' --prefix=/home/drot/.local '--program-transform-name=s/^ctags$/ctags.emacs/'' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 LIBSYSTEMD LCMS2 Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t override-global-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils leuven-theme time-date elec-pair tramp tramp-compat tramp-loaddefs trampver ucs-normalize shell pcomplete parse-time format-spec advice cus-start cus-load slime compile etags xref project arc-mode archive-mode noutline outline pp comint ansi-color ring hyperspec thingatpt browse-url use-package diminish bind-key easy-mmode finder-inf info slime-autoloads package easymenu epg-config url-handlers url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs password-cache url-vars seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv cl-loaddefs cl-lib mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 8 266033 12419) (symbols 24 27060 1) (miscs 20 115 100) (strings 16 51982 2324) (string-bytes 1 1352983) (vectors 8 44214) (vector-slots 4 834834 14348) (floats 8 107 14) (intervals 28 261 0) (buffers 528 12)) --94eb2c06388a5a2ac0055bcfc33c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Consider the following = init file:

;; Begin
(package-initialize)
(add-to-list &#= 39;package-archives
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/"))


(unle= ss (package-installed-p 'use-package)
=C2=A0 (package-refresh-conten= ts)
=C2=A0 (package-install 'use-package))


(eval-when-com= pile
=C2=A0 (require 'use-package))


(use-package slime=C2=A0 :ensure t)

(setq custom-file "~/.emacs.d/custom.el"= ;)
(load custom-file 'noerror)
;; End

This wil= l produce a following custom.el file:

(custom-set-variables
=C2= =A0;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom.
=C2=A0;; If you edit it = by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
=C2=A0;; Your init file sh= ould contain only one such instance.
=C2=A0;; If there is more than one,= they won't work right.
=C2=A0'(package-selected-packages (quote= (slime use-package)))
=C2=A0'(tramp-syntax (quote default) nil (tra= mp)))
(custom-set-faces
=C2=A0;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom= .
=C2=A0;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.<= br>=C2=A0;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
=C2=A0= ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
=C2=A0)

=
For some reason the tramp-syntax line gets added which causes TRAMP t= o load at startup,
this didn't happen with GNU Emacs 25.3 and= it slows down startup while it gets loaded unnecessarily.
This on= ly happens if I specify a custom-file location, if those two last lines are= deleted then
the TRAMP line doesn't get added to the init fi= le:

;; Begin
=C2=A0(package-initialize)
(add-to-list = 9;package-archives
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/"))


(unle= ss (package-installed-p 'use-package)
=C2=A0 (package-refresh-conten= ts)
=C2=A0 (package-install 'use-package))


(eval-when-com= pile
=C2=A0 (require 'use-package))


(use-package slime=C2=A0 :ensure t)
(custom-set-variables
=C2=A0;; custom-set-variable= s was added by Custom.
=C2=A0;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess i= t up, so be careful.
=C2=A0;; Your init file should contain only one suc= h instance.
=C2=A0;; If there is more than one, they won't work righ= t.
=C2=A0'(package-selected-packages (quote (slime use-package)))=C2=A0'(tramp-syntax (quote default) nil (tramp)))
(custom-set-face= s
=C2=A0;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom.
=C2=A0;; If you edit= it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
=C2=A0;; Your init fil= e should contain only one such instance.
=C2=A0;; If there is more than = one, they won't work right.
=C2=A0)
;; End

<= /div>
So far this happens only with SLIME and Cider packages.
=

In GNU Emacs 26.0.90 (build 1, = i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.24)
=C2=A0of 2017-10-13 built on la= mbda
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', versio= n 11.0.11905000
System Description:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Debian GNU/Linux u= nstable (sid)

Recent messages:
Loading /home/drot/.emacs.d/custom= .el (source)...
Loading tramp...done
Loading /home/drot/.emacs.d/cust= om.el (source)...done
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system= , type C-h C-a.

Configured using:
=C2=A0'configure 'CFLAG= S=3D-march=3Dnative -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-strong'
=C2=A0--pref= ix=3D/home/drot/.local
=C2=A0'--program-transform-name=3Ds/^ctags$/c= tags.emacs/''

Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG = RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS NOTIFY
ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS L= IBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 LI= BSYSTEMD LCMS2

Important settings:
=C2=A0 value of $LANG: en_US.U= TF-8
=C2=A0 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Fundamen= tal

Minor modes in effect:
=C2=A0 shell-dirtrack-mode: t
=C2= =A0 override-global-mode: t
=C2=A0 tooltip-mode: t
=C2=A0 global-eldo= c-mode: t
=C2=A0 electric-indent-mode: t
=C2=A0 mouse-wheel-mode: t=C2=A0 file-name-shadow-mode: t
=C2=A0 global-font-lock-mode: t
=C2= =A0 auto-composition-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-encryption-mode: t
=C2=A0 au= to-compression-mode: t
=C2=A0 buffer-read-only: t
=C2=A0 line-number-= mode: t
=C2=A0 transient-mark-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None = found.

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny= dired dired-loaddefs
rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg gnus-util rmail= rmail-loaddefs
mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabb= rev gmm-utils
mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mai= l-prsvr
mail-utils leuven-theme time-date elec-pair tramp tramp-compattramp-loaddefs trampver ucs-normalize shell pcomplete parse-time
forma= t-spec advice cus-start cus-load slime compile etags xref project
arc-mo= de archive-mode noutline outline pp comint ansi-color ring
hyperspec thi= ngatpt browse-url use-package diminish bind-key easy-mmode
finder-inf in= fo slime-autoloads package easymenu epg-config url-handlers
url-parse au= th-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs
password-cache = url-vars seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv
cl-loaddefs cl-lib = mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook
vc-hooks lisp-float= -type mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd
tool-bar dnd fontset= image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace
newcomment text-mode eli= sp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page
menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch t= imer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock
font-lock syntax facemenu font-cor= e term/tty-colors frame cl-generic
cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vi= etnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
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