GNU bug report logs - #28777
Clarifying the temporary documentation update marks in etc/NEWS

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Phil Sainty <psainty <at> orcon.net.nz>

Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 10:17:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Done: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>

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From: Phil Sainty <psainty <at> orcon.net.nz>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Clarifying the temporary documentation update marks in etc/NEWS
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 23:16:16 +1300
On 10/10/17 04:32, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> +++
>
> This indication means the change is already described in the manual.
> But since the patch doesn't include any doc changes except NEWS, I
> presume you decided this shouldn't be mentioned in the manual (and
> I agree), so the indication should be "---" instead.

I conclude that I'm a little confused about the description of the
two marks.  I had intentionally used "+++" because "all necessary
documentation updates are complete" (but I can see now that this
could make "---" redundant, unless both marks were used together).

etc/NEWS says:

> +++ indicates that all necessary documentation updates are complete.
>     (This means all relevant manuals in doc/ AND lisp doc-strings.)
> --- means no change in the manuals is needed.

If I now understand correctly, "---" means that all relevant lisp doc
strings have been updated, and "+++" means the same thing and that
there have additionally been updates to the manual?

If so, then I think this text could be clarified:

> +++ indicates that all necessary documentation updates are complete.
>     (This means all relevant manuals in doc/ AND lisp doc-strings.)
> --- indicates that all lisp doc-string updates are complete and
>     that no change in the manuals is needed.


-Phil





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Message #8 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Phil Sainty <psainty <at> orcon.net.nz>
Cc: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: Clarifying the temporary documentation update marks in etc/NEWS
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 15:25:38 +0300
> From: Phil Sainty <psainty <at> orcon.net.nz>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 23:16:16 +1300
> 
> etc/NEWS says:
> 
> > +++ indicates that all necessary documentation updates are complete.
> >     (This means all relevant manuals in doc/ AND lisp doc-strings.)
> > --- means no change in the manuals is needed.
> 
> If I now understand correctly, "---" means that all relevant lisp doc
> strings have been updated, and "+++" means the same thing and that
> there have additionally been updates to the manual?
> 
> If so, then I think this text could be clarified:

Thanks, I've clarified it.




bug closed, send any further explanations to 28777 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Phil Sainty <psainty <at> orcon.net.nz> Request was from Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:38:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Wed, 08 Nov 2017 12:24:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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