GNU bug report logs - #2873
Keybinding info for remapped commands could be more useful

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Reported by: Nikolaj Schumacher <me <at> nschum.de>

Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:15:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Fixed in version 23.2

Done: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>

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From: Nikolaj Schumacher <me <at> nschum.de>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Keybinding info for remapped commands could be more useful
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:11:03 +0200
When using a command, Emacs conveniently flashes the keybinding.

For remapped commands, the message is not as useful:
  You can run the command `command' with <remap> <original-command>

It would probably be better to offer the binding of original-command
instead.

regards,
Nikolaj Schumacher





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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: "'Nikolaj Schumacher'" <me <at> nschum.de>, <2873 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>,
        <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: RE: bug#2873: Keybinding info for remapped commands could be more useful
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:12:08 -0700
> When using a command, Emacs conveniently flashes the keybinding.
> For remapped commands, the message is not as useful:
>   You can run the command `command' with <remap> <original-command>
> 
> It would probably be better to offer the binding of original-command
> instead.

Sounds related to bug #788, which mentioned the same problem for key mentions in
menu items.






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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 2873 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, "'Nikolaj Schumacher'" <me <at> nschum.de>,
        <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#2873: Keybinding info for remapped commands could be more useful
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:31:28 -0400
>> When using a command, Emacs conveniently flashes the keybinding.
>> For remapped commands, the message is not as useful:
>> You can run the command `command' with <remap> <original-command>
>> 
>> It would probably be better to offer the binding of original-command
>> instead.

> Sounds related to bug #788, which mentioned the same problem for key mentions in
> menu items.

Indeed.  Back then I suggested to move the fix into where-is-internal
and this bug report seems to show that it would indeed be a good idea.


        Stefan








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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: "'Stefan Monnier'" <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: <2873 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, "'Nikolaj Schumacher'" <me <at> nschum.de>,
        <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: RE: bug#2873: Keybinding info for remapped commands could be more useful
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:58:01 -0700
> >> When using a command, Emacs conveniently flashes the keybinding.
> >> For remapped commands, the message is not as useful:
> >> You can run the command `command' with <remap> <original-command>
> >> 
> >> It would probably be better to offer the binding of 
> >> original-command instead.
> 
> > Sounds related to bug #788, which mentioned the same 
> > problem for key mentions in menu items.
> 
> Indeed.  Back then I suggested to move the fix into where-is-internal
> and this bug report seems to show that it would indeed be a good idea.

Yidong recently made a temporary fix of #788: removing the key mention from such
menu items. If and when the bug gets fixed properly, we need to remember to
revert that temporary fix, so such keys will appear again (but properly) in menu
items. 

Dunno how you note such things so they aren't forgotten later - perhaps a
comment in the code?






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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: <2873 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>,
        "'Stefan Monnier'" <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>, "'Nikolaj Schumacher'" <me <at> nschum.de>
Subject: RE: bug#2873: Keybinding info for remapped commands could be more useful
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:04:28 -0700
> > >> When using a command, Emacs conveniently flashes the keybinding.
> > >> For remapped commands, the message is not as useful:
> > >> You can run the command `command' with <remap> <original-command>
> > >> 
> > >> It would probably be better to offer the binding of 
> > >> original-command instead.
> > 
> > > Sounds related to bug #788, which mentioned the same 
> > > problem for key mentions in menu items.
> > 
> > Indeed.  Back then I suggested to move the fix into 
> > where-is-internal and this bug report seems to show that
> > it would indeed be a good idea.
> 
> Yidong recently made a temporary fix of #788: removing the 
> key mention from such menu items. If and when the bug gets
> fixed properly, we need to remember to revert that temporary
> fix, so such keys will appear again (but properly) in menu
> items. 

BTW, somehow we already DTRT for `C-h f bar', for a command `bar' that is
remapped from command `foo'. The key bindings mentioned for `bar' are correct -
it doesn't just say that `bar' is remapped from `foo'.






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From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: 2873-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#2873: Keybinding info for remapped commands could be more
	useful
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 02:38:44 -0400
Version: 23.2

Looks like this was fixed in Emacs 23.2.




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