From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:02:58 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#28727 <28727@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#28727 <28727@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Profiles with intentionally out of date packages are upgraded to the newest version Reply-To: bug#28727 <28727@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 21:02:58 +0000 retitle 28727 Profiles with intentionally out of date packages are upgraded= to the newest version reassign 28727 guix submitter 28727 Ben Woodcroft severity 28727 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 07 02:15:02 2017 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2017 06:15:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53694 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e0iO6-0003yy-5w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 02:15:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59636) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e0iO4-0003yE-DU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 02:15:00 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e0iNy-0004mc-5d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 02:14:55 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37989) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e0iNy-0004mI-1h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 02:14:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50607) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e0iNw-0005He-Te for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 02:14:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e0iNr-0004fv-Um for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 02:14:52 -0400 Received: from mailhub1.soe.uq.edu.au ([130.102.132.208]:41073 helo=newmailhub.uq.edu.au) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e0iNr-0004bi-CX for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 02:14:47 -0400 Received: from smtp1.soe.uq.edu.au (smtp1.soe.uq.edu.au [10.138.113.40]) by newmailhub.uq.edu.au (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v976EeJ3030178 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2017 16:14:40 +1000 Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([123.200.134.98]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.soe.uq.edu.au (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v976Ec8h025795 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2017 16:14:39 +1000 To: bug-guix@gnu.org From: Ben Woodcroft Subject: Profiles with intentionally out of date packages are upgraded to the newest version Message-ID: <96695834-ef08-db88-32b8-3b61066bb6f1@uq.edu.au> Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2017 16:14:38 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-UQ-FilterTime: 1507356881 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on UQ Mailhub X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Hi, I have a profile with python@2 in it, and running 'guix package -u' updates it to python@3, which isn't what I want. I cannot run 'guix package -i python@2 -u' because then it tries to install both python@2 and python@3, which conflicts. I can workaround this using 'guix package -u; guix package -i python@2'. That isn't ideal (wasteful downloading of substitute, extra entries in the generations list, etc), but is workable for me, making this a low priority bug for me. Ideally, I would expect that because I specified python@2 first, guix should not try to install python@3. However, this difficult because IIUC the packages which were specified to be included are not stored anywhere, and I suppose it would entail changes to the manifest format also. So, how to handle this? Thanks, ben From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 07 15:32:39 2017 Received: (at 28727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2017 19:32:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55024 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e0upz-000188-HS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 15:32:39 -0400 Received: from mail-lf0-f46.google.com ([209.85.215.46]:48783) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e0upy-00017o-7f for 28727@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 15:32:38 -0400 Received: by mail-lf0-f46.google.com with SMTP id a69so518728lfe.5 for <28727@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 12:32:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=2sHYCB1YwsfyT/0eUURU9E8byFUEQwQvaVzZI6VfKZU=; b=PaPHyvri8QxqxCOXXkr3/LSywI+2dqmWIQzBNkM0K/C+h0AFprmp8xmvm0EHSeYl9j eeGGrH4mK25Y/uDT3Sz4GjjskHnHDeK0tQckrRiG9v63D9+q15ExY1uCvpImVkQirDpd vMVkzrDqTgfaBUA19TSEqzS9I+q6Tl/TN/a1dvCm4eaD8WcGV3A01E7Kt3m4GFnMKwhA YYjl1R1f/MfgOHMNJQgVP5UeFIcsWvSTlhBnBMJD+YJL3VHL2Nf3j32hDFXR+gvNWeMs mF+eOtXB+8FXRBArI6fTD6FYm6OqwXU1dzi/vLJWFZySfm4Vh0eiCYXFD85cbZUDqR/g oPMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=2sHYCB1YwsfyT/0eUURU9E8byFUEQwQvaVzZI6VfKZU=; b=GxucJMEBxmHWIYQZLKQztkXeUzIyslrbXrur8Yx7fzd0BSIIs3D9XLQykGi12enXnj jZ5j81cbXwIRxZdnYuoq7Fyqu5/J2FZ8q62T+Ae6yK9nHFCFCZWEtGZGs4ANsyQu8Dz5 5BvArzOIolYlED3m9Dqk/5VMtoyZjiQvFqwoowQJKNv2cGd7xud1nRHAfErSWrRWBqJa 1PNVe949Qgxo1kBHnVrr67nmJSj5nPqyEzj/8iX53sTqgIQf48rz+2pEqbW8rpSAxWr4 HoZeu/QoUkuTdlqjv6pxDa50M9e14rCx7o58f00KlnKaXLasBSQTJRFx3m5AvUUbl4T0 t8uw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaWZty/He4doC7mwbRpv0KXRcNMQz3qupFBaOxU7LDZ3MSCPdTx5 3GXetRcp0pU0T65uCsPeZlJ5zg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDwFEdEPIen9T34Q/nMbOIq2i+uqP7FhOEf1gaiv1p7jDzI3lJgofxLvz3em2Ry6JBJqIbHpg== X-Received: by 10.25.147.65 with SMTP id v62mr2116949lfd.126.1507404752016; Sat, 07 Oct 2017 12:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leviafan ([217.107.194.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q190sm743390lfe.51.2017.10.07.12.32.30 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 07 Oct 2017 12:32:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Kost To: Ben Woodcroft Subject: Re: bug#28727: Profiles with intentionally out of date packages are upgraded to the newest version References: <96695834-ef08-db88-32b8-3b61066bb6f1@uq.edu.au> Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2017 22:32:29 +0300 In-Reply-To: <96695834-ef08-db88-32b8-3b61066bb6f1@uq.edu.au> (Ben Woodcroft's message of "Sat, 7 Oct 2017 16:14:38 +1000") Message-ID: <87o9pivjn6.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 28727 Cc: 28727@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) Ben Woodcroft (2017-10-07 16:14 +1000) wrote: > Hi, Hello, > I have a profile with python@2 in it, and running 'guix package -u' > updates it to python@3, which isn't what I want. I cannot run 'guix > package -i python@2 -u' because then it tries to install both python@2 > and python@3, which conflicts. > > I can workaround this using 'guix package -u; guix package -i > python@2'. That isn't ideal (wasteful downloading of substitute, extra > entries in the generations list, etc), but is workable for me, making > this a low priority bug for me. > > Ideally, I would expect that because I specified python@2 first, guix > should not try to install python@3. However, this difficult because IIUC > the packages which were specified to be included are not stored > anywhere, and I suppose it would entail changes to the manifest format > also. So, how to handle this? Not sure if you find the following workaround useful, but you may just make your own python package and install it instead: (define-public my-python-2 (package (inherit python-2) (name "python2"))) Since this "python2" has only version 2, it will never be upgraded to version 3. I mean there will be "python2@2" but not "python2@3", so if you install it ("guix package -i python2"), "guix package -u" will update it to the current version of the python-2 series. -- Alex From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 09 04:05:05 2017 Received: (at 28727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Oct 2017 08:05:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57083 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e1T3h-0007T4-F7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Oct 2017 04:05:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49847) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e1T3f-0007SX-QF for 28727@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Oct 2017 04:05:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e1T3X-0006rZ-Cp for 28727@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Oct 2017 04:04:58 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53126) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e1T3X-0006rU-9d; Mon, 09 Oct 2017 04:04:55 -0400 Received: from [193.50.110.231] (port=48122 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1e1T3W-0001ID-4k; Mon, 09 Oct 2017 04:04:54 -0400 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Ben Woodcroft Subject: Re: bug#28727: Profiles with intentionally out of date packages are upgraded to the newest version References: <96695834-ef08-db88-32b8-3b61066bb6f1@uq.edu.au> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 18 =?utf-8?Q?Vend=C3=A9miaire?= an 226 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 10:04:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <96695834-ef08-db88-32b8-3b61066bb6f1@uq.edu.au> (Ben Woodcroft's message of "Sat, 7 Oct 2017 16:14:38 +1000") Message-ID: <87fuas926z.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 28727 Cc: 28727@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Hello, Ben Woodcroft skribis: > I have a profile with python@2 in it, and running 'guix package -u' > updates it to python@3, which isn't what I want. I cannot run 'guix > package -i python@2 -u' because then it tries to install both python@2 > and python@3, which conflicts. > > I can workaround this using 'guix package -u; guix package -i > python@2'. That isn't ideal (wasteful downloading of substitute, extra > entries in the generations list, etc), but is workable for me, making > this a low priority bug for me. There=E2=80=99s this possibility: guix package -u . -r python -i python@2 I admit it=E2=80=99s a bit contrived though. There are several ways to address it: 1. Rename our Python 2.x package =E2=80=9Cpython2=E2=80=9D. 2. Add a property to the =E2=80=98python=E2=80=99 package that describes = it as part of the =E2=80=9C2.=E2=80=9D series, and have the upgrade mechanism honor = that property by upgrading to a version prefixed with =E2=80=9C2.=E2=80=9D. #1 is obviously easier (it triggers a lot of rebuild though). Thoughts? Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 24 12:48:11 2019 Received: (at 28727-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 May 2019 16:48:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47182 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hUDMZ-0001qS-5G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 May 2019 12:48:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60766) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hUDMX-0001qE-JD for 28727-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 May 2019 12:48:09 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42985) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hUDMM-0003Nt-IZ; Fri, 24 May 2019 12:48:00 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=37150 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hUDMM-00061K-1Q; Fri, 24 May 2019 12:47:58 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Ben Woodcroft Subject: Re: bug#28727: Profiles with intentionally out of date packages are upgraded to the newest version References: <96695834-ef08-db88-32b8-3b61066bb6f1@uq.edu.au> <87fuas926z.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 18:47:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87fuas926z.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Mon, 09 Oct 2017 10:04:52 +0200") Message-ID: <874l5jsssj.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 28727-done Cc: 28727-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi, ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) skribis: > There=E2=80=99s this possibility: > > guix package -u . -r python -i python@2 > > I admit it=E2=80=99s a bit contrived though. > > There are several ways to address it: > > 1. Rename our Python 2.x package =E2=80=9Cpython2=E2=80=9D. That was done long ago, so I=E2=80=99m closing this bug. Ludo=E2=80=99. From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:02:58 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2019 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator