From unknown Tue Jun 24 17:25:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#28697: 25.3; eldoc changes mode-line settings Resent-From: Nick Helm Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 07:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 28697 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 28697@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.150710373510322 (code B ref -1); Wed, 04 Oct 2017 07:56:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Oct 2017 07:55:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47418 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dzeWk-0002gP-DV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Oct 2017 03:55:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46581) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dzeWh-0002g8-Lb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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I like to run Emacs with the mode-line turned off. When I evaluate an expression interactively, eldoc restores the mode-line without being asked and doesn't turn it off again when it's finished. Recipe: Emacs -Q (setq-default mode-line-format nil) mode-line-format -> nil M-: (+ 1 ;open an eval, the mode-line reappears with eldoc message ) RET ;complete the eval, a blank mode-line remains mode-line-format -> ("" (eldoc-mode-line-string (" " eldoc... I expect eldoc to respect my value of mode-line-format, or at least restore the orignal value when it finishes doing its thing. I had a look at eldoc.el and I think the problem lies in eldoc-minibuffer-message. The function uses listp to test for mode-line-format, forgetting (I assume!) that nil is also a valid list. The following tweak seems to fix the problem here: --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el 2017-10-04 15:17:48.000000000 +1300 +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el 2017-10-04 12:17:36.000000000 +1300 @@ -261,8 +261,8 @@ (or (window-in-direction 'above (minibuffer-window)) (minibuffer-selected-window) (get-largest-window))) - (unless (and (listp mode-line-format) - (assq 'eldoc-mode-line-string mode-line-format)) + (when (and mode-line-format + (not (assq 'eldoc-mode-line-string mode-line-format))) (setq mode-line-format (list "" '(eldoc-mode-line-string (" " eldoc-mode-line-string " ")) For cases where mode-line-format is non-nil, eldoc also leaves behind a buffer local value, rather than restoring the default (if there was one), but I guess that's a different issue. In GNU Emacs 25.3.3 (x86_64-apple-darwin16.7.0, Carbon Version 157 AppKit 1504.83) of 2017-09-28 built on oberon Windowing system distributor 'Apple Inc.', version 10.12.6 Configured using: 'configure --with-mac --enable-locallisppath=/usr/local/kemp-emacs/emacs-25.3-mac-6.8/share/emacs/site-lisp --infodir=/usr/local/kemp-emacs/emacs-25.3-mac-6.8/info/emacs --prefix=/usr/local/kemp-emacs/emacs-25.3-mac-6.8 --enable-mac-app=/usr/local/kemp-emacs/emacs-25.3-mac-6.8' Configured features: NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS Important settings: value of $LANG: en_NZ.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Text Minor modes in effect: savehist-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t mac-mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t visual-line-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: Opening nntp server on news.gmane.org...done No new newsgroups Checking new news... 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X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2017 09:26:03.5190 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: ed686f26-19e8-407b-91d0-7364c1c6f5cf X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: MEXPR01MB1062 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 at 20:55:04 +1300, Nick Helm wrote: > - (unless (and (listp mode-line-format) > - (assq 'eldoc-mode-line-string mode-line-format)) > + (when (and mode-line-format > + (not (assq 'eldoc-mode-line-string mode-line-format))) Sorry, I got the patch wrong. This one works a little better: --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el 2017-10-04 22:11:09.000000000 +1300 +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el 2017-10-04 22:10:32.000000000 +1300 @@ -261,12 +261,13 @@ (or (window-in-direction 'above (minibuffer-window)) (minibuffer-selected-window) (get-largest-window))) + (when mode-line-format (unless (and (listp mode-line-format) (assq 'eldoc-mode-line-string mode-line-format)) (setq mode-line-format (list "" '(eldoc-mode-line-string (" " eldoc-mode-line-string " ")) - mode-line-format))) + mode-line-format)))) (setq eldoc-mode-line-string (when (stringp format-string) (apply #'format-message format-string args))) From unknown Tue Jun 24 17:25:52 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Nick Helm Subject: bug#28697: closed (Re: bug#28697: 25.3; eldoc changes mode-line settings) Message-ID: References: <83tvysc2me.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 28697 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: patch Reply-To: 28697@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 08:44:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1508575442-23608-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1508575442-23608-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #28697: 25.3; eldoc changes mode-line settings which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 28697@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 28697: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D28697 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1508575442-23608-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 28697-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2017 08:43:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53064 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e5pNp-00068K-BC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2017 04:43:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:32823) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e5pNn-000688-Vp for 28697-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2017 04:43:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e5pNf-00057u-Oi for 28697-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Oct 2017 04:43:46 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51503) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e5pNf-00057m-Kp; Sat, 21 Oct 2017 04:43:43 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3498 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1e5pNf-0005my-1m; Sat, 21 Oct 2017 04:43:43 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 11:43:37 +0300 Message-Id: <83tvysc2me.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Nick Helm In-reply-to: (message from Nick Helm on Wed, 04 Oct 2017 22:25:41 +1300) Subject: Re: bug#28697: 25.3; eldoc changes mode-line settings References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 28697-done Cc: 28697-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Nick Helm > Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 22:25:41 +1300 > > Sorry, I got the patch wrong. This one works a little better: Thanks, pushed to the release branch. 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I like to run Emacs with the mode-line turned off. When I evaluate an expression interactively, eldoc restores the mode-line without being asked and doesn't turn it off again when it's finished. Recipe: Emacs -Q (setq-default mode-line-format nil) mode-line-format -> nil M-: (+ 1 ;open an eval, the mode-line reappears with eldoc message ) RET ;complete the eval, a blank mode-line remains mode-line-format -> ("" (eldoc-mode-line-string (" " eldoc... I expect eldoc to respect my value of mode-line-format, or at least restore the orignal value when it finishes doing its thing. I had a look at eldoc.el and I think the problem lies in eldoc-minibuffer-message. The function uses listp to test for mode-line-format, forgetting (I assume!) that nil is also a valid list. The following tweak seems to fix the problem here: --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el 2017-10-04 15:17:48.000000000 +1300 +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/eldoc.el 2017-10-04 12:17:36.000000000 +1300 @@ -261,8 +261,8 @@ (or (window-in-direction 'above (minibuffer-window)) (minibuffer-selected-window) (get-largest-window))) - (unless (and (listp mode-line-format) - (assq 'eldoc-mode-line-string mode-line-format)) + (when (and mode-line-format + (not (assq 'eldoc-mode-line-string mode-line-format))) (setq mode-line-format (list "" '(eldoc-mode-line-string (" " eldoc-mode-line-string " ")) For cases where mode-line-format is non-nil, eldoc also leaves behind a buffer local value, rather than restoring the default (if there was one), but I guess that's a different issue. In GNU Emacs 25.3.3 (x86_64-apple-darwin16.7.0, Carbon Version 157 AppKit 1504.83) of 2017-09-28 built on oberon Windowing system distributor 'Apple Inc.', version 10.12.6 Configured using: 'configure --with-mac --enable-locallisppath=/usr/local/kemp-emacs/emacs-25.3-mac-6.8/share/emacs/site-lisp --infodir=/usr/local/kemp-emacs/emacs-25.3-mac-6.8/info/emacs --prefix=/usr/local/kemp-emacs/emacs-25.3-mac-6.8 --enable-mac-app=/usr/local/kemp-emacs/emacs-25.3-mac-6.8' Configured features: NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS Important settings: value of $LANG: en_NZ.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Text Minor modes in effect: savehist-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t mac-mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t visual-line-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: Opening nntp server on news.gmane.org...done No new newsgroups Checking new news... 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