GNU bug report logs - #2835
23.0.92; Info is missing help for some mac specific variables.

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Reported by: David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>

Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:55:04 UTC

Severity: minor

Tags: notabug

Done: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>

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From: David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>
To: emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org
Subject: 23.0.92; Info is missing help for some mac specific variables.
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:33:47 -0700
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The following variables exist but are not documented in the emacs info:

mac-allow-anti-aliasing  mac-command-modifier
mac-control-modifier     mac-function-modifier
mac-option-modifier

They are originally from the carbon port and they used to be documented.
The info section that describes them seems to have been removed,
probably when the nextstep port took over. They are still relevant
should be documented.

-David


In GNU Emacs 23.0.92.1 (i386-apple-darwin9.6.0, NS apple-appkit-949.43)
 of 2009-03-31 on black.local
Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.949
configured using `configure  '--with-ns''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: nil
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: nil
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Emacs-Lisp

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From: David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>
To: 2835 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#2835: 23.0.92; Info is missing help for some mac specific
 variables.
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:17:35 -0700
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I was poking around and noticed that the mac-* have been renamed to ns-* 
names. They are still not documented, however. Sorry to cause any confusion 
by refering to their old names.
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From: Jason Rumney <jasonr <at> gnu.org>
To: David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>, 2835 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#2835: 23.0.92;	Info is missing help for some mac specific
 variables.
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:55:52 +0800
David Caldwell wrote:
> The following variables exist but are not documented in the emacs info:
>
> mac-allow-anti-aliasing

Other font backends that support anti-aliasing use an :antialias 
property on the font to disable or use a different type of antialiasing 
for that font. There are a lot of extra font properties like this that 
aren't documented either, especially in the xft and w32 font backends.





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From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu <at> math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
To: Jason Rumney <jasonr <at> gnu.org>, 2835 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>
Subject: Re: bug#2835: 23.0.92;	Info is missing help for some mac specific variables.
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:22:37 +0900
>>>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:55:52 +0800, Jason Rumney <jasonr <at> gnu.org> said:

>> The following variables exist but are not documented in the emacs
>> info:
>> 
>> mac-allow-anti-aliasing

Confusingly, this is not a variable that controls anti-aliasing, but
it changes a font rendering engine so it uses lighter anti-aliasing.
This facility seems to be deprecated as of Mac OS X 10.5, so I'd
suggest removing this variable together with the corresponding NS
variable, ns-use-qd-smoothing.

> Other font backends that support anti-aliasing use an :antialias
> property on the font to disable or use a different type of
> antialiasing for that font. There are a lot of extra font properties
> like this that aren't documented either, especially in the xft and
> w32 font backends.

Still this applies to another NS variable, ns-antialias-text.

				     YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
				mituharu <at> math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp




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From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu <at> math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
To: 2835 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Jason Rumney <jasonr <at> gnu.org>, David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org>
Subject: Re: bug#2835: 23.0.92;	Info is missing help for some mac specific variables.
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:02:11 +0900
>>>>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:22:37 +0900, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu <at> math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> said:

>>> The following variables exist but are not documented in the emacs
>>> info:
>>> 
>>> mac-allow-anti-aliasing

> Confusingly, this is not a variable that controls anti-aliasing, but
> it changes a font rendering engine so it uses lighter anti-aliasing.

Sorry, this description itself seems to be confusing.  I meant, "if
the variable is set to non-nil, it selects another font rendering
engine whose rendering results in lighter anti-aliasing."

				     YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
				mituharu <at> math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp




bug reassigned from package `emacs' to `emacs,documentation'. Request was from Juanma Barranquero <lekktu <at> gmail.com> to control <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com. (Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:45:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Adrian Robert <adrian.b.robert <at> gmail.com>
To: 2835 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Info is missing help for some mac specific variables
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 22:49:44 +0700
The mac-xxx variables are there for legacy support.  They are  
documented if you do Ctrl-h v, but I'm not sure it's appropriate to  
document them in the info manual.

Also, mac-allow-anti-aliasing appears to be an alias for ns-antialias- 
text, which does switch on/off antialiasing.

ns-use-qd-smoothing controls the use of the QuickDraw engine, which  
was also a kind of legacy support for those transitioning from Carbon  
emacs, which at one time used QuickDraw rendering exclusively.  Since  
that changed long ago it is indeed probably best to remove this now  
-- the results don't really look good enough to justify it  
independently.

Would be good to standardize antialiasing control -- if all other  
backends use :antialias, NS should probably change to use it too, and  
then it should be documented globally.




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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Adrian Robert <adrian.b.robert <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 2835 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Info is missing help for some mac specific variables
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:05:09 +0200
Adrian Robert <adrian.b.robert <at> gmail.com> writes:

> The mac-xxx variables are there for legacy support.  They are
> documented if you do Ctrl-h v, but I'm not sure it's appropriate to
> document them in the info manual.

I agree, so I'm closing this bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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bug closed, send any further explanations to 2835 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and David Caldwell <david <at> porkrind.org> Request was from Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:06:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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