From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:28:24 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#28341 <28341@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#28341 <28341@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: RFE: focusing on source vs. symptoms (reducing duplicate error ouput) Reply-To: bug#28341 <28341@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 05:28:24 +0000 retitle 28341 RFE: focusing on source vs. symptoms (reducing duplicate erro= r ouput) reassign 28341 coreutils submitter 28341 L A Walsh severity 28341 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 03 18:07:18 2017 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Sep 2017 22:07:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47006 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dod30-0000Uh-1o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 18:07:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36697) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dod2y-0000UU-DW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 18:07:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dod2o-0004Ry-KV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 18:07:11 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37854) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dod2o-0004Ro-Gk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 18:07:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55896) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dod2j-0001nY-QZ for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 18:07:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dod2f-0004MK-4O for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 18:07:01 -0400 Received: from ishtar.tlinx.org ([173.164.175.65]:49364 helo=Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dod2e-0004IX-NS for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2017 18:06:57 -0400 Received: from [192.168.3.12] (Athenae [192.168.3.12]) by Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org (8.14.7/8.14.4/SuSE Linux 0.8) with ESMTP id v83M6ntT011908 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2017 15:06:52 -0700 Message-ID: <59AC7CF9.7070103@tlinx.org> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2017 15:06:49 -0700 From: L A Walsh User-Agent: Thunderbird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Subject: RFE: focusing on source vs. symptoms (reducing duplicate error ouput) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org id v83M6ntT011908 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) (Originally posted w/2 separable issues merged: splitting.) =20 In copying to a directory from a file system that has no unix permission bits (from one that does), one gets many duplicate error messages. Ex, copying from from a standard linux file system to a VFAT FS, cp reported: =20 > cp -a Valkyrja /l/ cp: preserving permissions for =E2=80=98/l/Valkyrja/folder.jpg=E2=80=99: = Not supported cp: preserving permissions for =E2=80=98/l/Valkyrja/01 Valkyrja(=E3=83=B4= =E3=82=A1=E3=83=AB=E3=82=AD=E3=83=AA=E3=82=A2).=20 flac=E2=80=99: Not supported cp: preserving permissions for =E2=80=98/l/Valkyrja/02 =E5=A6=96=E7=B2=BE= =E5=B8=9D=E5=9C=8B.flac=E2=80=99: Not=20 supported cp: preserving permissions for =E2=80=98/l/Valkyrja/Scans/mo07.jpg=E2=80=99= : Not supported cp: preserving permissions for =E2=80=98/l/Valkyrja/Scans/mo05.jpg=E2=80=99= : Not supported cp: preserving permissions for =E2=80=98/l/Valkyrja/Scans/mo06.jpg=E2=80=99= : Not supported cp: preserving permissions for =E2=80=98/l/Valkyrja/Scans/mo01.jpg=E2=80=99= : Not supported ... If Target file system doesn't support preserving permissions, it would be more useful to issue 1 error message for the _source_ of the problem (the directory) than 100's to 1000's of messages for each failure (symptoms of problem). Maybe something along the lines of (w/optional clarification in parens): > cp -a Valkyrja /l/ cp: preserving permissions for destination '/l/': Not supported. (per-file permissions-Not-supported messages suppressed) Thanks... linda From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 04 13:38:38 2017 Received: (at 28341) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2017 17:38:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49182 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dovKY-0000J1-Oi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2017 13:38:38 -0400 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:46170) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dovKX-0000Io-3u for 28341@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2017 13:38:37 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3094A1609D7; Mon, 4 Sep 2017 10:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id WKK86fxgCJVH; Mon, 4 Sep 2017 10:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A8C1609D8; Mon, 4 Sep 2017 10:38:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id jxJOhC0DRZsL; Mon, 4 Sep 2017 10:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [47.153.184.153]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 865C11609CF; Mon, 4 Sep 2017 10:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#28341: RFE: focusing on source vs. symptoms (reducing duplicate error ouput) To: L A Walsh , 28341@debbugs.gnu.org References: <59AC7CF9.7070103@tlinx.org> From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 10:38:25 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59AC7CF9.7070103@tlinx.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 28341 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) L A Walsh wrote: > If Target file system doesn't support preserving permissions, > it would be more useful to issue 1 error message for the > _source_ of the problem (the directory) That would be more useful in some circumstances. However, I expect some people are used to the longstanding behavior, which is more in line with what POSIX requires. We could add an option to supress chatter, though. 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