From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:17:59 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar Reply-To: Peter Dyballa , 2811@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:10:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 2811 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.12382850868817 (code B ref -1); Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:10:04 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 29 Mar 2009 00:04:46 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2T04gtF008811 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:04:44 -0700 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:57129 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LniW1-0001Ol-Tv for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:04:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LniVz-0004U2-FL for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:04:41 -0400 Received: from mout5.freenet.de ([195.4.92.95]:55734) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LniVz-0004Tc-3y for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:04:39 -0400 Received: from [195.4.92.22] (helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mout5.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LniVw-0002Xe-1c for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:04:36 +0100 Received: from p5b23ef12.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.239.18]:57040 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LniVv-0005mG-Cf for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:04:35 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: Peter Dyballa Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:04:27 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Hello! I have "localised" calendar by teaching it German, for example to =20 when outputting holidays: Mi, 25. Februar 2009: Aschermittwoch So, 8. M=C3=A4rz 2009: Internationaler Frauentag Fr, 20. M=C3=A4rz 2009: Fr=C3=BChlings-Tagundnachtgleiche = um 12 Uhr 43 So, 29. M=C3=A4rz 2009: Daylight Saving Time Begins 02 Uhr = 00 Mi, 1. April 2009: 1. April ... So, 25. Oktober 2009: Daylight Saving Time Ends 03 Uhr 00 Only the date when Daylight Saving Time starts or ends are in =20 English =E2=80=93 since s few months, I think, then already in version =20= 23.0.60 (as my old copy from January shows). Before they of course =20 were Germanised too: So, 29. M=C3=A4rz 2009: Sommerzeit beginnt um 02 Uhr 00 In GNU Emacs 23.0.91.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, GTK+ Version 2.14.7) of 2009-03-28 on Latsche.local Windowing system distributor `The XFree86 Project, Inc', version =20 11.0.40400000 configured using `configure '--without-sound' '--without-pop' '--=20 with-dbus' '--with-libotf' '--with-xpm' '--with-jpeg' '--with-tiff' =20 '--with-gif' '--with-png' '--x-includes=3D/opt/local/include' '--x-=20 libraries=3D/opt/local/lib' '--enable-locallisppath=3D/Library/=20 Application Support/Emacs/calendar23:/Library/Application Support/=20 Emacs' 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=3D/opt/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/local/lib/=20 pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig' 'CFLAGS=3D-Wno-pointer-sign -H -pipe -=20 fPIC -mcpu=3D7450 -mtune=3D7450 -fast -mpim-altivec -ftree-vectorize -=20= foptimize-register-move -freorder-blocks -freorder-blocks-and-=20 partition -fthread-jumps -fpeephole -fno-crossjumping' 'LDFLAGS=3D-=20 dead_strip -multiply_defined suppress' 'CPPFLAGS=3D'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Calendar Minor modes in effect: TeX-PDF-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t -- Greetings Pete =C2=BB=C2=BF=CA=87=C4=B1=CC=A3 =C9=99snq=C9=90 =CA=87,u=C9=90=C9=94 no=CA=8E= =C9=9F=C4=B1=CC=A3 =C9=93u=C4=B1=CC=A3=C9=A5=CA=87=CA=8Eu=C9=90 s=C4=B1=CC=A3 poo=C9=93 = =CA=87=C9=90=C9=A5=CA=8D=C2=AB From rgm@gnu.org Wed Apr 1 17:26:00 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 2 Apr 2009 00:26:00 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n320PvcX028408 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:25:58 -0700 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LpAkl-000886-GL; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:25:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18900.1555.420787.17426@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:25:55 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control message X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes unarchive 1423 forcemerge 1423 2847 severity 2817 wishlist reassign 2815 emacs,calendar severity 2815 minor reassign 2811 emacs,calendar From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:17:59 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (Emacs bug Tracking System) To: Peter Dyballa Subject: bug#2811 closed by Glenn Morris (Re: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar) Message-ID: References: X-Emacs-PR-Message: they-closed 2811 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,calendar Reply-To: 2811@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:40:04 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1238654404-30417-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1238654404-30417-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report which was filed against the emacs,calendar package: #2811: 23.0.91; calendar It has been closed by Glenn Morris . Their explanation is attached below along with your original report. If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a better one in a separate message then please contact Glenn Morris by replying to this email. --=20 2811: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D2811 Emacs Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1238654404-30417-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 2811-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 2 Apr 2009 06:35:30 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n326ZRSu030283 for <2811-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:35:28 -0700 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LpGWL-0001tk-3F; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 02:35:25 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 2811-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar References: X-Spook: MD4 Consul Abbas espionage Arnett tempest event security X-Ran: kX(uX}cAi(,I)R-OV$(`"_k%YgEN (Peter Dyballa's message of "Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:04:27 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter Dyballa wrote: > Only the date when Daylight Saving Time starts or ends are in=20=20 > English =E2=80=93 since s few months, I think, then already in version=20= =20 > 23.0.60 (as my old copy from January shows). This report lacks details, but I believe this is fixed now. ------------=_1238654404-30417-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 29 Mar 2009 00:04:46 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2T04gtF008811 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:04:44 -0700 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:57129 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LniW1-0001Ol-Tv for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:04:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LniVz-0004U2-FL for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:04:41 -0400 Received: from mout5.freenet.de ([195.4.92.95]:55734) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LniVz-0004Tc-3y for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:04:39 -0400 Received: from [195.4.92.22] (helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mout5.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LniVw-0002Xe-1c for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:04:36 +0100 Received: from p5b23ef12.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.239.18]:57040 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LniVv-0005mG-Cf for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:04:35 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org From: Peter Dyballa Subject: 23.0.91; calendar Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:04:27 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Hello! I have "localised" calendar by teaching it German, for example to =20 when outputting holidays: Mi, 25. Februar 2009: Aschermittwoch So, 8. M=C3=A4rz 2009: Internationaler Frauentag Fr, 20. M=C3=A4rz 2009: Fr=C3=BChlings-Tagundnachtgleiche = um 12 Uhr 43 So, 29. M=C3=A4rz 2009: Daylight Saving Time Begins 02 Uhr = 00 Mi, 1. April 2009: 1. April ... So, 25. Oktober 2009: Daylight Saving Time Ends 03 Uhr 00 Only the date when Daylight Saving Time starts or ends are in =20 English =E2=80=93 since s few months, I think, then already in version =20= 23.0.60 (as my old copy from January shows). Before they of course =20 were Germanised too: So, 29. M=C3=A4rz 2009: Sommerzeit beginnt um 02 Uhr 00 In GNU Emacs 23.0.91.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, GTK+ Version 2.14.7) of 2009-03-28 on Latsche.local Windowing system distributor `The XFree86 Project, Inc', version =20 11.0.40400000 configured using `configure '--without-sound' '--without-pop' '--=20 with-dbus' '--with-libotf' '--with-xpm' '--with-jpeg' '--with-tiff' =20 '--with-gif' '--with-png' '--x-includes=3D/opt/local/include' '--x-=20 libraries=3D/opt/local/lib' '--enable-locallisppath=3D/Library/=20 Application Support/Emacs/calendar23:/Library/Application Support/=20 Emacs' 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=3D/opt/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/local/lib/=20 pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig' 'CFLAGS=3D-Wno-pointer-sign -H -pipe -=20 fPIC -mcpu=3D7450 -mtune=3D7450 -fast -mpim-altivec -ftree-vectorize -=20= foptimize-register-move -freorder-blocks -freorder-blocks-and-=20 partition -fthread-jumps -fpeephole -fno-crossjumping' 'LDFLAGS=3D-=20 dead_strip -multiply_defined suppress' 'CPPFLAGS=3D'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Calendar Minor modes in effect: TeX-PDF-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t -- Greetings Pete =C2=BB=C2=BF=CA=87=C4=B1=CC=A3 =C9=99snq=C9=90 =CA=87,u=C9=90=C9=94 no=CA=8E= =C9=9F=C4=B1=CC=A3 =C9=93u=C4=B1=CC=A3=C9=A5=CA=87=CA=8Eu=C9=90 s=C4=B1=CC=A3 poo=C9=93 = =CA=87=C9=90=C9=A5=CA=8D=C2=AB ------------=_1238654404-30417-1-- From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:17:59 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#2811: closed by Glenn Morris (Re: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar) Reply-To: Peter Dyballa , 2811@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:50:06 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2811 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,calendar X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 2811-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2811.123871223411094 (code B ref 2811); Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:50:06 +0000 Received: (at 2811) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 2 Apr 2009 22:43:54 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, IMPRONONCABLE_1,MURPHY_WRONG_WORD1,MURPHY_WRONG_WORD2 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mout5.freenet.de (mout5.freenet.de [195.4.92.95]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n32Mhnjd011054 for <2811@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:43:51 -0700 Received: from [195.4.92.22] (helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mout5.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1LpVdU-0003DW-Ut for 2811@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:43:48 +0200 Received: from p5b23e040.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.224.64]:51035 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LpVdU-0003Vc-JX for 2811@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:43:48 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Peter Dyballa Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 00:43:41 +0200 To: 2811@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Am 02.04.2009 um 08:40 schrieb Emacs bug Tracking System: >> Only the date when Daylight Saving Time starts or ends are in >> English =96 since s few months, I think, then already in version >> 23.0.60 (as my old copy from January shows). > > This report lacks details, but I believe this is fixed now. No, it has not. Possible details: load-path has on top a directory where Germanised versions of some =20 calendar ELisp files exist: /Library/Application Support/Emacs/calendar23: total 712 drwxrwxr-x 10 root admin 340 2 Apr 22:22 . drwxrwxr-x 148 pete admin 5032 29 M=E4r 00:58 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 11164 16 Jan 22:55 cal-menu.el -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 15962 25 Jan 11:20 cal-move.el -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 7342 16 Jan 22:58 cal-x.el -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 109844 28 M=E4r 21:58 = calendar.el -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 108934 2 Apr 22:22 diary-lib.el -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 38696 2 Apr 22:18 holidays.el -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 16925 28 M=E4r 22:07 lunar.el -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 44565 16 Jan 23:22 solar.el Some differences in holidays.el (mine vs. original): 331c304 < (format "Sommerzeit beginnt um %s" --- > (format "Daylight Saving Time Begins %s" 336c309 < (format "Sommerzeit endet um %s" --- > (format "Daylight Saving Time Ends %s" 354a328,329 > holiday-hebrew-holidays holiday-islamic-holidays > holiday-bahai-holidays holiday-oriental-holidays The differences in line numbers are due to having more holidays here. -- Greetings Pete "No man was ever taken to hell by a woman unless he already had a =20 ticket in his pocket, or at least had been fooling around with =20 timetables." =96 Archie Goodwin From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:17:59 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#2811: closed by Glenn Morris (Re: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar) Reply-To: Glenn Morris , 2811@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:35:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2811 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,calendar X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 2811-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2811.123871483523710 (code B ref 2811); Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:35:03 +0000 Received: (at 2811) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 2 Apr 2009 23:27:15 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n32NRCnI023701 for <2811@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:27:13 -0700 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LpWJT-0004th-FP; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:27:11 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Peter Dyballa Cc: 2811@debbugs.gnu.org References: X-Spook: lock picking SEAL Team 6 SAPO assassinate oil import Lon X-Ran: nEN:s0/DA_"J1"?v"Q]roSnwUK;!hq-7&^S5UB`TrmtYof6+f}<]{6;sj

A=#q3$&Aa_ X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:27:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Peter Dyballa's message of "Fri, 3 Apr 2009 00:43:41 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Peter Dyballa wrote: > load-path has on top a directory where Germanised versions of some > calendar ELisp files exist: Oh, how obvious. > Some differences in holidays.el (mine vs. original): > > 331c304 > < (format "Sommerzeit beginnt um %s" > --- > > (format "Daylight Saving Time Begins %s" > 336c309 > < (format "Sommerzeit endet um %s" > --- > > (format "Daylight Saving Time Ends %s" > 354a328,329 > > holiday-hebrew-holidays holiday-islamic-holidays > > holiday-bahai-holidays holiday-oriental-holidays You seem to be attempting to redefine autoloaded variables that are dumped in loaddefs.el. This isn't going to work. Why don't you just use (setq calendar-holidays ...) as normal? From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:17:59 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#2811: closed by Glenn Morris (Re: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar) Reply-To: Peter Dyballa , 2811@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:10:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2811 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,calendar X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 2811-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2811.12387457121270 (code B ref 2811); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:10:05 +0000 Received: (at 2811) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 3 Apr 2009 08:01:52 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mout4.freenet.de (mout4.freenet.de [195.4.92.94]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3381mWD001264 for <2811@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 01:01:50 -0700 Received: from [195.4.92.17] (helo=7.mx.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1LpeLS-0006Zx-Ac; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:01:46 +0200 Received: from p5b23e4e9.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.228.233]:51051 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 7.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1LpeLR-0005Bb-WB; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:01:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Cc: 2811@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Peter Dyballa Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:01:38 +0200 To: Glenn Morris X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Am 03.04.2009 um 01:27 schrieb Glenn Morris: > Why don't you just use (setq calendar-holidays ...) as normal? I'm using them in the site init file. And additionally I want German =20 text. This worked for almost 20 years now ... Actually it's only the =20 "Daylight Saving Time Begins" and "Daylight Saving Time Ends" which =20 don't translate. -- Greetings Pete The world would be a better place if Larry Wall had been born in =20 Iceland, or any other country where the native language actually has =20 syntax. =96 Peter da Silva From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:17:59 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#2811: closed by Glenn Morris (Re: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar) Reply-To: Glenn Morris , 2811@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:10:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2811 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,calendar X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 2811-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2811.123877826924133 (code B ref 2811); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:10:04 +0000 Received: (at 2811) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 3 Apr 2009 17:04:29 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n33H4Qaj024127 for <2811@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:04:27 -0700 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Lpmoa-0003hi-Dt; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:04:24 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Peter Dyballa Cc: 2811@debbugs.gnu.org References: X-Spook: Roswell FSF emc oil subversive eternity server ASO Bin X-Ran: otX+:ZT2O;g?zgvED^l2<%4YONYzM]w-=:T28`M0/5K=r=|)4EmXmSR9@I^c`?IyiEv^7# X-Hue: yellow X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:04:24 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Peter Dyballa's message of "Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:01:38 +0200") Message-ID: <07zlexlld3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Peter Dyballa wrote: > Am 03.04.2009 um 01:27 schrieb Glenn Morris: > >> Why don't you just use (setq calendar-holidays ...) as normal? > > I'm using them in the site init file. And additionally I want German > text. I don't see the relevance of either of these facts. The recommended way to do this is to use (setq calendar-holidays ...), whether in your .emacs or site init file. Copying an entire lisp file and making selective changes is never going to be the recommended method of doing anything. > This worked for almost 20 years now ... Actually it's only the > "Daylight Saving Time Begins" and "Daylight Saving Time Ends" which > don't translate. I must misunderstand, because I can't see how what you describe would ever work. solar-holidays is an autoloaded defcustom (and was in Emacs 21.4 as well). This means the definition is in loaddefs.el, and hence gets dumped into the executable. Hence in `emacs -Q', solar-holidays is already defined, with the original value. If you then attempt to load a changed holidays.el, the second defcustom has no effect on the previously defined value. You need to use a setq. (Personally, I wish these and other defcustoms were not autoloaded, but people are used to them being so, so it's impossible to change.) From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:17:59 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#2811: closed by Glenn Morris (Re: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar) Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 2811@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:40:08 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2811 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,calendar X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 2811-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2811.12387945002805 (code B ref 2811); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:40:08 +0000 Received: (at 2811) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 3 Apr 2009 21:35:00 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca (chene.dit.umontreal.ca [132.204.246.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n33LYuK9002791 for <2811@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:34:58 -0700 Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n33LYtrX023003; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:34:55 -0400 Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8811980CBE; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:34:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Glenn Morris Cc: 2811@debbugs.gnu.org, Peter Dyballa Message-ID: References: <07zlexlld3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:34:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <07zlexlld3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:04:24 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-NAI-Spam-Level: * X-NAI-Spam-Score: 1 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered TO_ALIAS_IN_SUBJ=1, RV3246=0 > (Personally, I wish these and other defcustoms were not autoloaded, > but people are used to them being so, so it's impossible to change.) It can be changed alright. People will complain, tho. Clearly, it cannot be changed during the pretest. Stefan "who dislikes autoloaded vars" From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:17:59 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#2811: closed by Glenn Morris (Re: bug#2811: 23.0.91; calendar) Reply-To: Peter Dyballa , 2811@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:05:07 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2811 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,calendar X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 2811-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2811.12387957379479 (code B ref 2811); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:05:07 +0000 Received: (at 2811) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 3 Apr 2009 21:55:37 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [195.4.92.90]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n33LtXQK009471 for <2811@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:55:34 -0700 Received: from [195.4.92.17] (helo=7.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1LprMK-0001UY-E7; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:55:32 +0200 Received: from p5b23f9f6.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.249.246]:56233 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 7.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #79) id 1LprMJ-0001bE-Ts; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:55:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <07zlexlld3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <07zlexlld3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2BE80A7E-97C1-4D97-A58D-49EFB99071B8@Freenet.DE> Cc: 2811@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Dyballa Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:55:23 +0200 To: Glenn Morris X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Am 03.04.2009 um 19:04 schrieb Glenn Morris: >> This worked for almost 20 years now ... Actually it's only the >> "Daylight Saving Time Begins" and "Daylight Saving Time Ends" which >> don't translate. > > I must misunderstand, because I can't see how what you describe would > ever work. > I think I was wrong: I had for long time "patched" the ELisp source files, which I gave up some time after GNU Emacs 23.0.0 came out. Maybe these "translations" were left, overlooked, in the sources. Last autumn I checked out GNU Emacs 23.0.xy completely for some reasons, and in January I noticed that the "translations" were gone ... -- Greetings Pete Behold the warranty ... the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.