From unknown Thu Aug 14 18:37:05 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#28104 <28104@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#28104 <28104@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 25.2; autoload defcustom should put safe-local-variable Reply-To: bug#28104 <28104@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 01:37:05 +0000 retitle 28104 25.2; autoload defcustom should put safe-local-variable reassign 28104 emacs submitter 28104 Allen Li severity 28104 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 15 17:30:50 2017 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2017 21:30:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39814 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dhjQH-0005gK-6o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 17:30:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39836) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dhjQF-0005gC-TZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 17:30:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dhjQ9-00048h-OP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 17:30:42 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:42229) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dhjQ9-00047c-68 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 17:30:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59006) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dhjQ7-0007t6-Up for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 17:30:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dhjQ6-000427-Da for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 17:30:39 -0400 Received: from mail-qt0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::229]:36710) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dhjQ6-0003yi-3I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 17:30:38 -0400 Received: by mail-qt0-x229.google.com with SMTP id v29so11387098qtv.3 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 14:30:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ao5dpdqCW6vZFxlsmatZE+WaBo9sTm2Cnw4sEXUCPQc=; b=m9uFou+IOZ9wGwBSVGPrXhiTzzInBhPTvTvjnVavul+Ld6UGOfEReGKMA2In+dgbxp 2sBTWXhpx3jzFQMU6CadO7QcCkL9ut6V2cIsOFNRupzfYPhKbQSUDdDpwKU8lXVpVduk WUqvzpBfmf87U02Bc/dfRRPmyt9XqCovALFdanPjOrbHz1LYqH34UhuLqRgy0Vwkf9Du L1KusX4OOFHSwIM/SquicPa5CrP/qYCAN/LeII4movakkDTm/Famu6QqX/LZ7C3emy0b i8pg08Du1bCxQkwKyyBTKWvhBb1PS4w6aRgZoUZbSIuKIctwBDpb5xClB5IDe1qeHi4d kBBw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ao5dpdqCW6vZFxlsmatZE+WaBo9sTm2Cnw4sEXUCPQc=; b=oOI/OLhb2WJG8aTZw6WSp9a4H8FBRBuh1hSuqlixClVDrWlFvliw/4Qr93C0iWWl4w X2fKqySDAwrKd/nVG6CQ3GFPXJTfe2KG5m2V+iKecP3Gag7fy4Ptk0W2q9ixvHvEEtSt 4BcBx8ph/Jbs6AOmY+g3mRyDRgHBFIVzGJWJo0DXp6piXooThfMUxoySfd69Xmxml8ms CkTqpz57hy0xuXJzSiLAsjQG5VFP7Doet0t18YXbX/jIpOdKhs3gvteL+HN6yiAOHDKf HX2w2vS81J0Hht5FK7+YgqCFwLXcp3H992ZqnsbK39zv9rM5JR3CUqWDVlIvRRO8f0Eb QYcQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5gK6q1K6vc+B755tWHee5Z0Kso86d+akBZj5NgUf28icugd3Y31 KOA+9FLl+e/c5JFANYAPrqg0I+abTw2sahY= X-Received: by 10.200.55.129 with SMTP id d1mr41184254qtc.167.1502832635762; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 14:30:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.52.237 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 14:30:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Allen Li Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 14:30:35 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: 25.2; autoload defcustom should put safe-local-variable To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Generating autoloads for a defcustom form will not put safe-local-variable. Given: ;;;###autoload (defcustom mir-python-hanging-indent-levels 1 "Number of =E2=80=98python-indent-offset=E2=80=99 to use for hanging inde= ntation." :type 'integer :safe 'integerp) This generates the following autoloads: (defvar mir-python-hanging-indent-levels 1 "\ Number of =E2=80=98python-indent-offset=E2=80=99 to use for hanging indenta= tion.") (custom-autoload 'mir-python-hanging-indent-levels "mir-python" t) It would be useful to also include: (put 'mir-python-hanging-indent-levels 'safe-local-variable 'integerp) Otherwise, Emacs will complain about file local variables that are safe if you do not (require 'foo) in advance, which is very annoying. In GNU Emacs 25.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.8), modified by Debian Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11803000 System Description: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 15 19:58:04 2017 Received: (at 28104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2017 23:58:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40019 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dhlil-0005fB-5i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 19:58:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38893) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dhlij-0005ef-8X for 28104@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 19:58:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dhlid-0001Bq-Ce for 28104@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 19:57:56 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46023) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dhliZ-0001A1-JA; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 19:57:51 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dhliZ-0006cH-3M; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 19:57:51 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Allen Li Subject: Re: bug#28104: 25.2; autoload defcustom should put safe-local-variable References: X-Spook: Border Patrol Home grown FDA Cops Kosovo data haven AQIM X-Ran: '_nzry>(b8OEUYRR<0PhF9V-,U8{.&dR'4d/mrSrP~HzFI}Z+%_yB#L@:y*)d2r+^Q-{|b X-Hue: cyan X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 19:57:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Allen Li's message of "Tue, 15 Aug 2017 14:30:35 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 28104 Cc: 28104@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) It's rare to need to autoload a defcustom. If you need to autoload the safety property, specify it separately, and autoload just that statement. Otherwise I suppose you could wrap the defcustom in a progn and autoload the whole thing. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 15 23:30:02 2017 Received: (at 28104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2017 03:30:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40097 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dhp1u-00040C-42 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 23:30:02 -0400 Received: from mail-qt0-f176.google.com ([209.85.216.176]:33921) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dhp1r-0003zY-R4 for 28104@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 23:30:00 -0400 Received: by mail-qt0-f176.google.com with SMTP id s6so14520653qtc.1 for <28104@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 20:29:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=WKRLkIiPY92mM4VozLFuNOFVITTZ7hOY8MNQKqUdgDo=; b=YtFomZ6NtSj7+v5kAVzGc7F38GdzIhWVQM8psxEOQJl1fcoocHLQMRB34UHtV0CKc+ 5RDt4i3BA80Ag1OfMgQXrvky233HTGoTnSPkb0s41mtQJZwXVOAQ+SrBwv/NKrTRmrAu 2zdJLG3MonRNxoqovsuWTKybR0jHdLDPa3kZomq8w+dxI7TJiXsv7oHvVqEM0FIm/XFj oKJaBlEA3++frewuULUUcef3nQwH4zumyZtVFdJZ7MNm86ggZKhpJKzwRnxNmslY1ANH U7nI7X0hLd2O455zeVAL8RvAT+nvqoVoCyB/fOCSJFrN8rgJfqUnKLTq3JYy6izIeUh5 Sirg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=WKRLkIiPY92mM4VozLFuNOFVITTZ7hOY8MNQKqUdgDo=; b=Sb4S7Z3yz/suRf+nlK5++GzIm08Z2lEkZxnslZrTDydNc7cvfsyQfopjvjk77xDCP7 GjzvYUo3tVzgR5TJflUQV0b8jgXhSjtHkETpS+7gvvdekDBAqMxPhRweSzKDq2I6Cjft D4YluGOS+p41Vawj8c/OvpVejahuxOQXWX+MwD+IGHTWgtD36gz9zUpC9kUSC8sOBudm guacXlNajmbLV92jvqZ70l1wX1wQUZ2iyqqqlmhf3enhVOH6bxmOQ82qdC46ddN0gPP+ 3mRqc5MgQN5wDlSwe8Tpd0YWES2w3rs+2DzgikRctguyB4JePtHTAwqOmA0QeRZxYRJB cdfg== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5gjbiju41ExAk95Bfa6pq56IGwfBBbNcJVAjs15l5iIIhSBfzA2 GIxhc+mYCynSGYpk6ZvaH/5H8O8G6Q== X-Received: by 10.237.42.226 with SMTP id t89mr393266qtd.242.1502854194149; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 20:29:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.52.237 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 20:29:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Allen Li Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 20:29:53 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#28104: 25.2; autoload defcustom should put safe-local-variable To: Glenn Morris Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 28104 Cc: 28104@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: > > It's rare to need to autoload a defcustom. What are some intended use cases for an autoloaded defcustom? For me, applying safe-local-variable seems like a leading use case. I'm fine with writing (defcustom foo nil "Doc" :safe 'symbolp) ;;;###autoload (put 'foo 'safe-local-variable 'symbolp) But that seems redundant, and especially so in such use cases where you would want to autoload the defcustom. ;;;###autoload (defcustom foo nil "Doc" :safe 'symbolp) ;;;###autoload (put 'foo 'safe-local-variable 'symbolp) You could omit the :safe in defcustom, I suppose, but the inconsistency bugs me; defcustom can be autoloaded and defcustom can set safe-local-variable, but not both at the same time. It makes either feature feel like it was tacked on as an afterthought and not part of a homogeneous whole. > If you need to autoload the safety property, specify it separately, > and autoload just that statement. Otherwise I suppose you could wrap > the defcustom in a progn and autoload the whole thing. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Allen Li writes: > You could omit the :safe in defcustom, I suppose, but the > inconsistency bugs me; defcustom can be autoloaded and defcustom can > set safe-local-variable, but not both at the same time. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 28104 Cc: 28104@debbugs.gnu.org, Glenn Morris X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Allen Li writes: > You could omit the :safe in defcustom, I suppose, but the > inconsistency bugs me; defcustom can be autoloaded and defcustom can > set safe-local-variable, but not both at the same time. Yeah, I think it makes sense to propagate the :safe setting to the loaddefs file when doing this (even if it's slightly unusual). 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