From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:14:53 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#28069 <28069@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#28069 <28069@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 25.1; TLS connection information cannot be entirely read Reply-To: bug#28069 <28069@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:14:53 +0000 retitle 28069 25.1; TLS connection information cannot be entirely read reassign 28069 emacs submitter 28069 Markus Triska severity 28069 normal tag 28069 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 12 18:21:17 2017 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Aug 2017 22:21:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58541 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dgemT-0007RJ-MS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 18:21:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51021) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dgemR-0007RD-PM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 18:21:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dgemL-0001l1-8W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 18:21:10 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:35133) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dgemL-0001kw-58 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 18:21:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41985) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dgemJ-0008RF-W2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 18:21:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dgemG-0001kC-Rw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 18:21:07 -0400 Received: from metalevel.at ([78.46.218.83]:38470) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dgemG-0001iu-L8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 18:21:04 -0400 Received: from mt-mbpro.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by metalevel.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BBFAA0273 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2017 00:21:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mt-mbpro.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 501) id 3E47BCD1DD4; Sun, 13 Aug 2017 00:21:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Markus Triska To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.1; TLS connection information cannot be entirely read Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 00:21:00 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) When I do M-x gnus RET, Gnus is started as expected, and a buffer is shown that contains a warning about the connection security level with respect to the server I am connecting to (news.gmane.org). In my particular case, the visible portion of the text ends with: The TLS connection to news.gmane.org:nntp is insecure for the following reasons: certificate signer was not found (self-signed) This last sentence appears at the very bottom of the buffer. Potentially, the buffer contains more text which I do not see. In fact, since the buffer speaks of "reasons", I expect that there are more. The minibuffer displays: Continue connecting? (No, Session only, Always) At this point, I would like to visit the buffer that displays the warning, in order to scroll and see whether it contains more text. However, I cannot do that: Any attempt to switch buffers or scroll the other buffer appears to be overridden by the minibuffer prompt, forcing a decision at this point. Even after I answer in one of the three ways, I cannot go back and see the warning that was previously displayed. If possible, please allow for inspecting the full warning in some way. Thank you and all the best, Markus In GNU Emacs 25.1.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin15.3.0, X toolkit, Xaw scroll bars) of 2016-08-12 built on mt-mbpro Repository revision: 98b01dd1ef004b79de4998691a84bed6ea1ca0ba Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11502000 Configured using: 'configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid --without-ns --with-x11 LDFLAGS=-L/opt/local/lib CFLAGS=-I/opt/local/include' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS LUCID X11 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 14 10:40:09 2017 Received: (at 28069) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2017 14:40:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35331 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dhGXI-0004Fm-Vs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 10:40:09 -0400 Received: from mail-qk0-f172.google.com ([209.85.220.172]:38227) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dhGXH-0004FT-H0 for 28069@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 10:40:08 -0400 Received: by mail-qk0-f172.google.com with SMTP id x191so51193578qka.5 for <28069@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 07:40:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lifelogs.com; s=google; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:mail-copies-to:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=L86YZVZM/aEzSsPdoOyCvo8XQezLZC/tUSAa1I4LDO8=; b=FS6bGwoNgtOCT3w4+4wM7tihUIBPWUa9+2UHUXA6Mpczu1OuyqAlVAAoRJ5Kb2cZKp 3dndm2lIeo9DNnkKmFinJWvbp3JfB0m2ozkN16xIggBii1gLFsSSEGZQPeBjnXYO3N6R ZWJBb49B4tHY9AemsQjjh2I+OnfO1yuoZ7aCU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references :mail-copies-to:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=L86YZVZM/aEzSsPdoOyCvo8XQezLZC/tUSAa1I4LDO8=; b=NxHJC9BJgMK1/C48KxLxuqaLQZ4KwmlNnu6ZroE8/lq1+KBxZkXWw0BN11mjZYkEUa d9yQ/fN5j1ki/C+Q0tL5s/wXfInHXt5LWeyso+UzSwoT2hHjGPtMJtNT5WValg1Lr5z9 yPsPdV0pCoJd594V6aYNhyudtojj4NDMdehS3cb0g5fWEduzN1speTIjGsbrlfA7NgA5 2IAhOQLX5Tsc7hPFSw1fcn/TPk2jTpbjSmQWD9haJhmBcd+JGu7e3ef2NeDf8voRrulJ b8wkctXD7KFmG7GajzQFl32JidwbozFVvKqr08CjIveRQT2kE7ytD4n0a3MpjRFQf0g6 /WYg== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5h59RgAsQFJHEfyBXCd8h71nlgKt3ypZwrGsEAQTuCi42GAu6yM fiSs0rJi0kjjkttuNRg0Cg== X-Received: by 10.55.19.104 with SMTP id d101mr8208568qkh.296.1502721601268; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flea (c-76-28-41-155.hsd1.ma.comcast.net. [76.28.41.155]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v50sm5134079qtb.10.2017.08.14.07.39.59 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 14 Aug 2017 07:39:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Zlatanov To: Markus Triska , John Wiegley Subject: Re: bug#28069: 25.1; TLS connection information cannot be entirely read Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos References: X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 10:39:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Markus Triska's message of "Sun, 13 Aug 2017 00:21:00 +0200") Message-ID: <87valqmcw1.fsf@lifelogs.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 28069 Cc: 28069@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 00:21:00 +0200 Markus Triska wrote: ... MT> certificate signer was not found (self-signed) MT> This last sentence appears at the very bottom of the buffer. ... MT> At this point, I would like to visit the buffer that displays the MT> warning, in order to scroll and see whether it contains more text. MT> However, I cannot do that: Any attempt to switch buffers or scroll the MT> other buffer appears to be overridden by the minibuffer prompt Hi Markus, we're talking in emacs-devel about including and using John Wiegley's alert.el in the core, which would give us better ways to display the TLS/NSM warnings and interactions. So while that's not an immediate resolution to your issue, I wanted to let you know it's on the horizon. Ted From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 24 02:34:32 2019 Received: (at 28069) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Sep 2019 06:34:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37462 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iCePA-0007rF-61 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 02:34:32 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:56584) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iCeP8-0007r5-Tt for 28069@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 02:34:31 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iCeP4-0002Fb-N2; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 08:34:29 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Markus Triska Subject: Re: bug#28069: 25.1; TLS connection information cannot be entirely read References: Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 08:34:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Markus Triska's message of "Sun, 13 Aug 2017 00:21:00 +0200") Message-ID: <877e5y42z1.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Markus Triska writes: > In my particular case, the visible portion of the text ends with: > > The TLS connection to news.gmane.org:nntp is insecure for the > following reasons: > > certificate signer was not found (self-si [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 28069 Cc: 28069@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Markus Triska writes: > In my particular case, the visible portion of the text ends with: > > The TLS connection to news.gmane.org:nntp is insecure for the > following reasons: > > certificate signer was not found (self-signed) > > This last sentence appears at the very bottom of the buffer. > Potentially, the buffer contains more text which I do not see. In fact, > since the buffer speaks of "reasons", I expect that there are more. > > The minibuffer displays: > > Continue connecting? (No, Session only, Always) > > At this point, I would like to visit the buffer that displays the > warning, in order to scroll and see whether it contains more text. I've now changed this to allow scrolling if the window is too small in Emacs 27. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 24 02:34:42 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Sep 2019 06:34:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37465 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iCePK-0007ri-Hw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 02:34:42 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:56598) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iCePJ-0007rb-3c for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 02:34:41 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iCePB-0002Fi-CW for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 08:34:35 +0200 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 08:34:32 +0200 Message-Id: <875zli42yv.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #28069 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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