From unknown Mon Aug 18 18:01:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#27956: 26.0.50; Setting load-prefer-newer breaks Emacs startup Resent-From: Fabrice Popineau Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2017 18:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 27956 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 27956@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.15018727996134 (code B ref -1); Fri, 04 Aug 2017 18:54:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2017 18:53:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42041 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddhio-0001aq-W6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 14:53:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40988) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddhio-0001af-0J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 14:53:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddhih-0000sI-8n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 14:53:12 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:36122) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddhih-0000s9-60 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 14:53:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60122) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddhie-00089v-VK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 14:53:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddhid-0000pb-7P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 14:53:09 -0400 Received: from mail-qt0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::229]:38760) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddhid-0000pP-22 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 14:53:07 -0400 Received: by mail-qt0-x229.google.com with SMTP id t37so13919320qtg.5 for ; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 11:53:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=obJ3TE6cPZjaTRSPqldB3PYu+O10th+tw98LUp34xAQ=; b=OVP2sq8ISakpnsqv5ys0BwEN+8VUDrORoN2r/pxN7Y/2r2HdmkhqEqFQtxaHSm3j9i u4d+gE8OgeCoHdUkPMV9cFWBYUAv0INGwio7i4KOPJLhNp+j2mpj3NiMS/gDACVp7j9o Xd3+kHkrwizxrAIPM3dj7jNDwtQ/NXCbjyMnxQFe6IXD0bWtlKrTXNwgcsYBwOq90Dhp 99YMMzW9wLsVId7mwUSkvBYQ+Y9tIgVR2C7/D/xLMXZgVGi7yF+EPB3pM1SlWyDhGP/r MYv3fWUEGAOmr3ohz1+GPDe2P7RJdast1Gk/RooAMmefSKZUn+eyjJzrK1OaogtOmIg7 pmhQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=obJ3TE6cPZjaTRSPqldB3PYu+O10th+tw98LUp34xAQ=; b=ELogvtBbRdKyrvoLWXG6Ew7PnF5DuuY3HqvWjprf2+YR29pALt7/aDdMW2DuUxHZkV XcF+hibmHxhGaFYV8I6ECZ9CR6wh4nmnb9kUFbd+wLuKLqhvdfyAHCnSwaktzaq9j3IA k5iexGDZNmmQV/byb0IcLWHyQFOWvUe+fSmntWALri4PhNu/V5YeN33sdcjczfB9KpV7 giuDU22W93Dmw5JOVVPZbImsJmib4Csy0VqFPfUmtOzpHEA7qxBc6VgayBlGRMFFI3Fh VUI0GyiOqgZPauepTyZO1mNM3yOCZS6xgUcgrVG5EYIw8LsEPOEvSTAy22YTs8culz1I ZMmg== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5g4ib38Kks+Oc5a0SkbQsuRUPtB+rVZMpUaZzqzMyNTyLbOfNua kWAMap0eo2q8Ak3MBxilIUJ4w+JiYb17 X-Received: by 10.200.55.129 with SMTP id d1mr4687354qtc.167.1501872786116; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 11:53:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.82.21 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Aug 2017 11:52:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Fabrice Popineau Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 20:52:45 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11374c8aea16ff0555f201a9" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) --001a11374c8aea16ff0555f201a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" ;; Eval: (setq load-prefer-newer t) ;; and then for example: (delete-selection-mode t) results in an error and the following in the *Messages* buffer: insert-file-contents: Recursive load: "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/debug.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/delsel.el.gz" In GNU Emacs 26.0.50 (build 5, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2017-08-04 built on LOBSANG Repository revision: 6127f5901726740dad461b7b08c0095a65c737d5 Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.16251 Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. about-emacs: Wrong type argument: number-or-marker-p, nil Type C-x 1 to delete the help window. Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/MingW64 --with-jpeg --with-xpm --with-png --with-tiff --with-rsvg --with-xml2 --with-gnutls --with-imagemagick --without-dbus --enable-checking=no 'CFLAGS=-I/mingw64/include -fomit-frame-pointer -O3 -g0 -mtune=corei7' CPPFLAGS=-I/mingw64/include LDFLAGS=-L/mingw64/lib' Configured features: JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS Important settings: value of $LANG: fr_FR locale-coding-system: cp1252 Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message subr-x puny seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv dired dired-loaddefs format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg epg-config gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils apropos help-fns radix-tree help-mode easymenu cl-loaddefs cl-lib time-date mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp disp-table term/w32-win w32-win w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote w32notify w32 multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 101172 9279) (symbols 56 20314 1) (miscs 48 54 140) (strings 32 30898 815) (string-bytes 1 803193) (vectors 16 14252) (vector-slots 8 485738 7358) (floats 8 56 88) (intervals 56 898 13) (buffers 992 13)) --001a11374c8aea16ff0555f201a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

;; Eval:
(setq load-prefer-n= ewer t)
;; and then for example:
(delete-selection-mode= t)

results in an error and the following in the *= Messages* buffer:

insert-file-contents: Recursive = load: "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz"= ;, "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/debug.el.gz&= quot;, "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz&quo= t;, "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz",= "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", &q= uot;c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "= ;c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/delsel.el.gz"

In GNU Emacs 26.0.50 (build 5, x86_64-w64-mingw= 32)
=C2=A0of 2017-08-04 built on LOBSANG
Repository rev= ision: 6127f5901726740dad461b7b08c0095a65c737d5
Windowing system = distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.16251
Recent = messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, typ= e C-h C-a.
about-emacs: Wrong type argument: number-or-marker-p, = nil
Type C-x 1 to delete the help window.

Configured using:
=C2=A0'configure --prefix=3D/MingW64 --wi= th-jpeg --with-xpm --with-png
=C2=A0--with-tiff --with-rsvg --wit= h-xml2 --with-gnutls --with-imagemagick
=C2=A0--without-dbus --en= able-checking=3Dno 'CFLAGS=3D-I/mingw64/include
=C2=A0-fomit-= frame-pointer -O3 -g0 -mtune=3Dcorei7' CPPFLAGS=3D-I/mingw64/include
=C2=A0LDFLAGS=3D-L/mingw64/lib'

Config= ured features:
JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND NOTIFY AC= L GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS

Important settings:
=C2=A0 value of $LANG: fr_FR
=C2= =A0 locale-coding-system: cp1252

Major mode: Lisp = Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
=C2= =A0 tooltip-mode: t
=C2=A0 global-eldoc-mode: t
=C2=A0 = eldoc-mode: t
=C2=A0 electric-indent-mode: t
=C2=A0 mou= se-wheel-mode: t
=C2=A0 tool-bar-mode: t
=C2=A0 menu-ba= r-mode: t
=C2=A0 file-name-shadow-mode: t
=C2=A0 global= -font-lock-mode: t
=C2=A0 font-lock-mode: t
=C2=A0 blin= k-cursor-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-composition-mode: t
=C2=A0= auto-encryption-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-compression-mode: t
=C2=A0 line-number-mode: t
=C2=A0 transient-mark-mode: t
<= div>
Load-path shadows:
None found.

<= /div>
Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message subr-= x puny seq byte-opt gv
bytecomp byte-compile cconv dired dired-lo= addefs format-spec rfc822 mml
mml-sec password-cache epa derived = epg epg-config gnus-util rmail
rmail-loaddefs mm-decode mm-bodies= mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231
mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sen= dmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums
mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils ap= ropos help-fns radix-tree help-mode
easymenu cl-loaddefs cl-lib t= ime-date mule-util tooltip eldoc electric
uniquify ediff-hook vc-= hooks lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp
disp-table term/w32-= win w32-win w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd
fontset image r= egexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment
text-mode elis= p-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar
rfn-eshadow ise= arch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock
syntax face= menu font-core term/tty-colors frame cl-generic cham georgian
utf= -8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean
jap= anese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european
ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop
= case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray minibuffer
cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files
text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule=
custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote w32notify w32 m= ulti-tty
make-network-process emacs)

Mem= ory information:
((conses 16 101172 9279)
=C2=A0(symbol= s 56 20314 1)
=C2=A0(miscs 48 54 140)
=C2=A0(strings 32= 30898 815)
=C2=A0(string-bytes 1 803193)
=C2=A0(vector= s 16 14252)
=C2=A0(vector-slots 8 485738 7358)
=C2=A0(f= loats 8 56 88)
=C2=A0(intervals 56 898 13)
=C2=A0(buffe= rs 992 13))

--001a11374c8aea16ff0555f201a9-- From unknown Mon Aug 18 18:01:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#27956: 26.0.50; Setting load-prefer-newer breaks Emacs startup Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 06:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27956 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Fabrice Popineau Cc: 27956@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 27956-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27956.15019141454696 (code B ref 27956); Sat, 05 Aug 2017 06:23:02 +0000 Received: (at 27956) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2017 06:22:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42362 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddsTg-0001Df-Fw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 02:22:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42559) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddsTf-0001DR-5M for 27956@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 02:22:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddsTV-00016m-Pe for 27956@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 02:22:17 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58363) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddsTV-00016e-N1; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 02:22:13 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1059 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ddsTU-0002ml-Vo; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 02:22:13 -0400 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 09:22:03 +0300 Message-Id: <83r2wqwn3o.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Fabrice Popineau on Fri, 4 Aug 2017 20:52:45 +0200) References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Fabrice Popineau > Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 20:52:45 +0200 > > ;; Eval: > (setq load-prefer-newer t) > ;; and then for example: > (delete-selection-mode t) > > results in an error and the following in the *Messages* buffer: > > insert-file-contents: Recursive load: "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/debug.el.gz", > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/delsel.el.gz" I don't see this in Emacs 25.2, and I don't have the current master installed to test there. So maybe this is a new thing on master. From unknown Mon Aug 18 18:01:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#27956: 26.0.50; Setting load-prefer-newer breaks Emacs startup Resent-From: Fabrice Popineau Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 07:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27956 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 27956@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 27956-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27956.15019172749607 (code B ref 27956); Sat, 05 Aug 2017 07:15:01 +0000 Received: (at 27956) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2017 07:14:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42397 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtI9-0002Ut-KH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:14:33 -0400 Received: from mail-qk0-f177.google.com ([209.85.220.177]:35407) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtI7-0002Ug-Kg for 27956@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:14:32 -0400 Received: by mail-qk0-f177.google.com with SMTP id d145so19725089qkc.2 for <27956@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 00:14:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=nbJUfmiW08SHvb+A3EXfuX3mrFCkSw3PH1lFIFfwY0Q=; b=fwQlcbMfOODJehHrtRySlK+Q8ilnBe+oTn1VLPLxnTicie7FrZtrs5zFRa6DNnkEyX kzb01k7KydnA6e78MvWtr85Ednrs/TXktRCnLFRzPJhOYkU03McuMBdadvIgczEzp2hV xtWcrGnax5h9qrm0xtfJD5iuxIgSKtl87MnCb7gA0kOF6OduvFZYbsCyBWXRlu9KZnQx 4VGaw9aF0FlH/xpa1w3yoCW732Cg4dQg77JO5cflkuBekbvQ55VmMT/gpeDrFxCknew1 JR2lt7zTaZcwQQNifUEcVa1dWA+HrOwSKbhMBFC9YMudMB+HDUjLo56fEEBMZRbM97e8 zcjg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nbJUfmiW08SHvb+A3EXfuX3mrFCkSw3PH1lFIFfwY0Q=; b=Psa6pbNfVhNQaCyUpBuIGIdcqGqe1lDf3/sVMCaZOM7rvRAJ1Mp+dowWCtxiMABVfM dfP5sRA1gnlnZkzpDV8XwCQzc5mLgka9fLSmUxyKBeGDKQeH1FTCTPV6A4NoGPWNJ8Lr pLc/iFj/9QD3t05fN5v3/xFzvIRrNG96XXiTaCUJSRMmeOSEVyhD7+9kgrNS0rXOfBPh IApgE7TGcBh8lYS9qbsBEvELp9MRyjuTMnFbu5VvZXFM6FAHHgeaBFYaBK5IXILsw1Ge PbGsto5Rs/WvslWW9+s4GF/Br7zDqTEkZmkVJ5ZIq0lE+CSdV+YZT3/cX+nsScInAXna Ib+w== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5gSktQk73rJA6wa4HcWfSo5hB8dApcldGYO+P6RtTN/UeRQqG6n zVtwN5G7QwBrwY/ib0ghIOXF7XlSAw== X-Received: by 10.55.46.5 with SMTP id u5mr5918058qkh.217.1501917266220; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 00:14:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.82.21 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Aug 2017 00:14:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83r2wqwn3o.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83r2wqwn3o.fsf@gnu.org> From: Fabrice Popineau Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 09:14:05 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114f14e0229d840555fc5d1b" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) --001a114f14e0229d840555fc5d1b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I had to "touch /path/to/emacs/lisp/files/*.elc" after installation to fix it. 2017-08-05 8:22 GMT+02:00 Eli Zaretskii : > > From: Fabrice Popineau > > Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 20:52:45 +0200 > > > > ;; Eval: > > (setq load-prefer-newer t) > > ;; and then for example: > > (delete-selection-mode t) > > > > results in an error and the following in the *Messages* buffer: > > > > insert-file-contents: Recursive load: "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/ > emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/debug.el.gz", > > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/delsel.el.gz" > > I don't see this in Emacs 25.2, and I don't have the current master > installed to test there. So maybe this is a new thing on master. > --001a114f14e0229d840555fc5d1b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had to "touch /path/to/emacs/lisp/files/*.elc"= after installation to fix it.



2017-08-05 8:22 GMT+02:00 = Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
= > From: Fabrice Popineau <fabrice.popineau@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 20:52:45 +0200
>
> ;; Eval:
> (setq load-prefer-newer t)
> ;; and then for example:
> (delete-selection-mode t)
>
> results in an error and the following in the *Messages* buffer:
>
> insert-file-contents: Recursive load: "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz",
> "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/= debug.el.gz",
> "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.e= l.gz",
> "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.e= l.gz",
> "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.e= l.gz",
> "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.e= l.gz",
> "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/delsel.el.g= z"

I don't see this in Emacs 25.2, and I don't have the current master=
installed to test there.=C2=A0 So maybe this is a new thing on master.

--001a114f14e0229d840555fc5d1b-- From unknown Mon Aug 18 18:01:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#27956: 26.0.50; Setting load-prefer-newer breaks Emacs startup Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 07:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27956 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Fabrice Popineau Cc: 27956@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 27956-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27956.150191822311080 (code B ref 27956); Sat, 05 Aug 2017 07:31:01 +0000 Received: (at 27956) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2017 07:30:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42401 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtXT-0002se-3N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:30:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34660) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtXQ-0002sQ-IJ for 27956@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:30:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtXH-00060k-4F for 27956@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:30:15 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36368) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtXH-00060b-1P; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:30:11 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1160 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtXG-00051e-85; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:30:10 -0400 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 10:30:02 +0300 Message-Id: <83h8xmwjyd.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Fabrice Popineau on Sat, 5 Aug 2017 09:14:05 +0200) References: <83r2wqwn3o.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Fabrice Popineau > Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 09:14:05 +0200 > Cc: 27956@debbugs.gnu.org > > I had to "touch /path/to/emacs/lisp/files/*.elc" after installation to fix it. ??? Do you mean that compressing files with gzip doesn't preserve their time stamps? It does here. The gzip manual specifically says: `gzip' reduces the size of the named files using Lempel-Ziv coding (LZ77). Whenever possible, each file is replaced by one with the extension `.gz', while keeping the same ownership modes, access and modification times. What version of gzip did you use? 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Do you mean that compressing files with gzip doesn't preserve > their time stamps? It does here. The gzip manual specifically says: > > `gzip' reduces the size of the named files using Lempel-Ziv coding > (LZ77). Whenever possible, each file is replaced by one with the > extension `.gz', while keeping the same ownership modes, access and > modification times. > > What version of gzip did you use? > Ok, you are right. There is a version 1.6 of gzip.exe distributed with TeXLive that has interfered here. It doesn't preserve timestamps when compressing files. This is definitely a problem, but not in emacs. The 1.8 gzip.exe from MSYS2 does preserve timestamps. Sorry for the noise. --001a114005b6e93ac60555fccf83 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2017-08-05 9:30 GMT+02:00 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
=
> From: Fabrice Popineau <fabrice.popineau@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 09:14:05 +0200
> Cc: 27956@debbugs.gnu.org=
>
> I had to "touch /path/to/emacs/lisp/files/*.elc" after = installation to fix it.

??? Do you mean that compressing files with gzip doesn't preserv= e
their time stamps?=C2=A0 It does here.=C2=A0 The gzip manual specifically s= ays:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0`gzip' reduces the size of the named files using Le= mpel-Ziv coding
=C2=A0 (LZ77).=C2=A0 Whenever possible, each file is replaced by one with t= he
=C2=A0 extension `.gz', while keeping the same ownership modes, access = and
=C2=A0 modification times.

What version of gzip did you use?

Ok, y= ou are right. There is a version 1.6 of gzip.exe =C2=A0distributed with TeX= Live that has interfered here.
It doesn't preserve timest= amps when compressing files. This is definitely a problem, but not in emacs= .

The 1.8 gzip.exe from MSYS2 does preserve timest= amps.

Sorry for the noise.


--001a114005b6e93ac60555fccf83-- From unknown Mon Aug 18 18:01:15 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Fabrice Popineau Subject: bug#27956: closed (Re: bug#27956: 26.0.50; Setting load-prefer-newer breaks Emacs startup) Message-ID: References: <83fud6wixz.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 27956 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 27956@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 07:53:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1501919582-13092-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1501919582-13092-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #27956: 26.0.50; Setting load-prefer-newer breaks Emacs startup which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 27956@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 27956: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D27956 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1501919582-13092-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 27956-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2017 07:52:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42410 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtsb-0003OC-BI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:52:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48846) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtsZ-0003Nz-Uy for 27956-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:52:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtsR-0006xL-Ko for 27956-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:52:06 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38023) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtsR-0006wy-Hj; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:52:03 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1340 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtsP-0007Z7-1m; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:52:02 -0400 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 10:51:52 +0300 Message-Id: <83fud6wixz.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Fabrice Popineau In-reply-to: (message from Fabrice Popineau on Sat, 5 Aug 2017 09:46:11 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#27956: 26.0.50; Setting load-prefer-newer breaks Emacs startup References: <83r2wqwn3o.fsf@gnu.org> <83h8xmwjyd.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27956-done Cc: 27956-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Fabrice Popineau > Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 09:46:11 +0200 > Cc: 27956@debbugs.gnu.org > > `gzip' reduces the size of the named files using Lempel-Ziv coding > (LZ77). Whenever possible, each file is replaced by one with the > extension `.gz', while keeping the same ownership modes, access and > modification times. > > What version of gzip did you use? > > Ok, you are right. There is a version 1.6 of gzip.exe distributed with TeXLive that has interfered here. > It doesn't preserve timestamps when compressing files. This is definitely a problem, but not in emacs. > > The 1.8 gzip.exe from MSYS2 does preserve timestamps. Heh, I have MSYS Gzip 1.3.5 and GnuWin32 Gzip 1.2.4 here, and they both preserve timestamps. So I guess what you have is some botched port of Gzip. > Sorry for the noise. No sweat. 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) --001a11374c8aea16ff0555f201a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" ;; Eval: (setq load-prefer-newer t) ;; and then for example: (delete-selection-mode t) results in an error and the following in the *Messages* buffer: insert-file-contents: Recursive load: "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/debug.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/delsel.el.gz" In GNU Emacs 26.0.50 (build 5, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2017-08-04 built on LOBSANG Repository revision: 6127f5901726740dad461b7b08c0095a65c737d5 Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.16251 Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. about-emacs: Wrong type argument: number-or-marker-p, nil Type C-x 1 to delete the help window. Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/MingW64 --with-jpeg --with-xpm --with-png --with-tiff --with-rsvg --with-xml2 --with-gnutls --with-imagemagick --without-dbus --enable-checking=no 'CFLAGS=-I/mingw64/include -fomit-frame-pointer -O3 -g0 -mtune=corei7' CPPFLAGS=-I/mingw64/include LDFLAGS=-L/mingw64/lib' Configured features: JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS Important settings: value of $LANG: fr_FR locale-coding-system: cp1252 Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message subr-x puny seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv dired dired-loaddefs format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg epg-config gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils apropos help-fns radix-tree help-mode easymenu cl-loaddefs cl-lib time-date mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp disp-table term/w32-win w32-win w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote w32notify w32 multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 101172 9279) (symbols 56 20314 1) (miscs 48 54 140) (strings 32 30898 815) (string-bytes 1 803193) (vectors 16 14252) (vector-slots 8 485738 7358) (floats 8 56 88) (intervals 56 898 13) (buffers 992 13)) --001a11374c8aea16ff0555f201a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

;; Eval:
(setq load-prefer-n= ewer t)
;; and then for example:
(delete-selection-mode= t)

results in an error and the following in the *= Messages* buffer:

insert-file-contents: Recursive = load: "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz"= ;, "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/debug.el.gz&= quot;, "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz&quo= t;, "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz",= "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", &q= uot;c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "= ;c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/delsel.el.gz"

In GNU Emacs 26.0.50 (build 5, x86_64-w64-mingw= 32)
=C2=A0of 2017-08-04 built on LOBSANG
Repository rev= ision: 6127f5901726740dad461b7b08c0095a65c737d5
Windowing system = distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.16251
Recent = messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, typ= e C-h C-a.
about-emacs: Wrong type argument: number-or-marker-p, = nil
Type C-x 1 to delete the help window.

Configured using:
=C2=A0'configure --prefix=3D/MingW64 --wi= th-jpeg --with-xpm --with-png
=C2=A0--with-tiff --with-rsvg --wit= h-xml2 --with-gnutls --with-imagemagick
=C2=A0--without-dbus --en= able-checking=3Dno 'CFLAGS=3D-I/mingw64/include
=C2=A0-fomit-= frame-pointer -O3 -g0 -mtune=3Dcorei7' CPPFLAGS=3D-I/mingw64/include
=C2=A0LDFLAGS=3D-L/mingw64/lib'

Config= ured features:
JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND NOTIFY AC= L GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS

Important settings:
=C2=A0 value of $LANG: fr_FR
=C2= =A0 locale-coding-system: cp1252

Major mode: Lisp = Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
=C2= =A0 tooltip-mode: t
=C2=A0 global-eldoc-mode: t
=C2=A0 = eldoc-mode: t
=C2=A0 electric-indent-mode: t
=C2=A0 mou= se-wheel-mode: t
=C2=A0 tool-bar-mode: t
=C2=A0 menu-ba= r-mode: t
=C2=A0 file-name-shadow-mode: t
=C2=A0 global= -font-lock-mode: t
=C2=A0 font-lock-mode: t
=C2=A0 blin= k-cursor-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-composition-mode: t
=C2=A0= auto-encryption-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-compression-mode: t
=C2=A0 line-number-mode: t
=C2=A0 transient-mark-mode: t
<= div>
Load-path shadows:
None found.

<= /div>
Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message subr-= x puny seq byte-opt gv
bytecomp byte-compile cconv dired dired-lo= addefs format-spec rfc822 mml
mml-sec password-cache epa derived = epg epg-config gnus-util rmail
rmail-loaddefs mm-decode mm-bodies= mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231
mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sen= dmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums
mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils ap= ropos help-fns radix-tree help-mode
easymenu cl-loaddefs cl-lib t= ime-date mule-util tooltip eldoc electric
uniquify ediff-hook vc-= hooks lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp
disp-table term/w32-= win w32-win w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd
fontset image r= egexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment
text-mode elis= p-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar
rfn-eshadow ise= arch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock
syntax face= menu font-core term/tty-colors frame cl-generic cham georgian
utf= -8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean
jap= anese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european
ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop
= case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray minibuffer
cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files
text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule=
custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote w32notify w32 m= ulti-tty
make-network-process emacs)

Mem= ory information:
((conses 16 101172 9279)
=C2=A0(symbol= s 56 20314 1)
=C2=A0(miscs 48 54 140)
=C2=A0(strings 32= 30898 815)
=C2=A0(string-bytes 1 803193)
=C2=A0(vector= s 16 14252)
=C2=A0(vector-slots 8 485738 7358)
=C2=A0(f= loats 8 56 88)
=C2=A0(intervals 56 898 13)
=C2=A0(buffe= rs 992 13))

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