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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) --001a11374c8aea16ff0555f201a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" ;; Eval: (setq load-prefer-newer t) ;; and then for example: (delete-selection-mode t) results in an error and the following in the *Messages* buffer: insert-file-contents: Recursive load: "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/debug.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/delsel.el.gz" In GNU Emacs 26.0.50 (build 5, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2017-08-04 built on LOBSANG Repository revision: 6127f5901726740dad461b7b08c0095a65c737d5 Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.16251 Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. about-emacs: Wrong type argument: number-or-marker-p, nil Type C-x 1 to delete the help window. Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/MingW64 --with-jpeg --with-xpm --with-png --with-tiff --with-rsvg --with-xml2 --with-gnutls --with-imagemagick --without-dbus --enable-checking=no 'CFLAGS=-I/mingw64/include -fomit-frame-pointer -O3 -g0 -mtune=corei7' CPPFLAGS=-I/mingw64/include LDFLAGS=-L/mingw64/lib' Configured features: JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS Important settings: value of $LANG: fr_FR locale-coding-system: cp1252 Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message subr-x puny seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv dired dired-loaddefs format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg epg-config gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils apropos help-fns radix-tree help-mode easymenu cl-loaddefs cl-lib time-date mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp disp-table term/w32-win w32-win w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote w32notify w32 multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 101172 9279) (symbols 56 20314 1) (miscs 48 54 140) (strings 32 30898 815) (string-bytes 1 803193) (vectors 16 14252) (vector-slots 8 485738 7358) (floats 8 56 88) (intervals 56 898 13) (buffers 992 13)) --001a11374c8aea16ff0555f201a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

;; Eval:
(setq load-prefer-n= ewer t)
;; and then for example:
(delete-selection-mode= t)

results in an error and the following in the *= Messages* buffer:

insert-file-contents: Recursive = load: "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz"= ;, "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/debug.el.gz&= quot;, "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz&quo= t;, "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz",= "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", &q= uot;c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", "= ;c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/delsel.el.gz"

In GNU Emacs 26.0.50 (build 5, x86_64-w64-mingw= 32)
=C2=A0of 2017-08-04 built on LOBSANG
Repository rev= ision: 6127f5901726740dad461b7b08c0095a65c737d5
Windowing system = distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.16251
Recent = messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, typ= e C-h C-a.
about-emacs: Wrong type argument: number-or-marker-p, = nil
Type C-x 1 to delete the help window.

Configured using:
=C2=A0'configure --prefix=3D/MingW64 --wi= th-jpeg --with-xpm --with-png
=C2=A0--with-tiff --with-rsvg --wit= h-xml2 --with-gnutls --with-imagemagick
=C2=A0--without-dbus --en= able-checking=3Dno 'CFLAGS=3D-I/mingw64/include
=C2=A0-fomit-= frame-pointer -O3 -g0 -mtune=3Dcorei7' CPPFLAGS=3D-I/mingw64/include
=C2=A0LDFLAGS=3D-L/mingw64/lib'

Config= ured features:
JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND NOTIFY AC= L GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS

Important settings:
=C2=A0 value of $LANG: fr_FR
=C2= =A0 locale-coding-system: cp1252

Major mode: Lisp = Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
=C2= =A0 tooltip-mode: t
=C2=A0 global-eldoc-mode: t
=C2=A0 = eldoc-mode: t
=C2=A0 electric-indent-mode: t
=C2=A0 mou= se-wheel-mode: t
=C2=A0 tool-bar-mode: t
=C2=A0 menu-ba= r-mode: t
=C2=A0 file-name-shadow-mode: t
=C2=A0 global= -font-lock-mode: t
=C2=A0 font-lock-mode: t
=C2=A0 blin= k-cursor-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-composition-mode: t
=C2=A0= auto-encryption-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-compression-mode: t
=C2=A0 line-number-mode: t
=C2=A0 transient-mark-mode: t
<= div>
Load-path shadows:
None found.

<= /div>
Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message subr-= x puny seq byte-opt gv
bytecomp byte-compile cconv dired dired-lo= addefs format-spec rfc822 mml
mml-sec password-cache epa derived = epg epg-config gnus-util rmail
rmail-loaddefs mm-decode mm-bodies= mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231
mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sen= dmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums
mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils ap= ropos help-fns radix-tree help-mode
easymenu cl-loaddefs cl-lib t= ime-date mule-util tooltip eldoc electric
uniquify ediff-hook vc-= hooks lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp
disp-table term/w32-= win w32-win w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd
fontset image r= egexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment
text-mode elis= p-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar
rfn-eshadow ise= arch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock
syntax face= menu font-core term/tty-colors frame cl-generic cham georgian
utf= -8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean
jap= anese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european
ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop
= case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray minibuffer
cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files
text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule=
custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote w32notify w32 m= ulti-tty
make-network-process emacs)

Mem= ory information:
((conses 16 101172 9279)
=C2=A0(symbol= s 56 20314 1)
=C2=A0(miscs 48 54 140)
=C2=A0(strings 32= 30898 815)
=C2=A0(string-bytes 1 803193)
=C2=A0(vector= s 16 14252)
=C2=A0(vector-slots 8 485738 7358)
=C2=A0(f= loats 8 56 88)
=C2=A0(intervals 56 898 13)
=C2=A0(buffe= rs 992 13))

--001a11374c8aea16ff0555f201a9-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 05 02:22:24 2017 Received: (at 27956) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2017 06:22:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42362 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddsTg-0001Df-Fw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 02:22:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42559) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddsTf-0001DR-5M for 27956@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 02:22:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddsTV-00016m-Pe for 27956@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 02:22:17 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58363) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddsTV-00016e-N1; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 02:22:13 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1059 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ddsTU-0002ml-Vo; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 02:22:13 -0400 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 09:22:03 +0300 Message-Id: <83r2wqwn3o.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Fabrice Popineau In-reply-to: (message from Fabrice Popineau on Fri, 4 Aug 2017 20:52:45 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#27956: 26.0.50; Setting load-prefer-newer breaks Emacs startup References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27956 Cc: 27956@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Fabrice Popineau > Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 20:52:45 +0200 > > ;; Eval: > (setq load-prefer-newer t) > ;; and then for example: > (delete-selection-mode t) > > results in an error and the following in the *Messages* buffer: > > insert-file-contents: Recursive load: "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/debug.el.gz", > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/delsel.el.gz" I don't see this in Emacs 25.2, and I don't have the current master installed to test there. So maybe this is a new thing on master. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 05 03:14:33 2017 Received: (at 27956) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2017 07:14:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42397 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtI9-0002Ut-KH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:14:33 -0400 Received: from mail-qk0-f177.google.com ([209.85.220.177]:35407) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtI7-0002Ug-Kg for 27956@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:14:32 -0400 Received: by mail-qk0-f177.google.com with SMTP id d145so19725089qkc.2 for <27956@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 00:14:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=nbJUfmiW08SHvb+A3EXfuX3mrFCkSw3PH1lFIFfwY0Q=; b=fwQlcbMfOODJehHrtRySlK+Q8ilnBe+oTn1VLPLxnTicie7FrZtrs5zFRa6DNnkEyX kzb01k7KydnA6e78MvWtr85Ednrs/TXktRCnLFRzPJhOYkU03McuMBdadvIgczEzp2hV xtWcrGnax5h9qrm0xtfJD5iuxIgSKtl87MnCb7gA0kOF6OduvFZYbsCyBWXRlu9KZnQx 4VGaw9aF0FlH/xpa1w3yoCW732Cg4dQg77JO5cflkuBekbvQ55VmMT/gpeDrFxCknew1 JR2lt7zTaZcwQQNifUEcVa1dWA+HrOwSKbhMBFC9YMudMB+HDUjLo56fEEBMZRbM97e8 zcjg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nbJUfmiW08SHvb+A3EXfuX3mrFCkSw3PH1lFIFfwY0Q=; b=Psa6pbNfVhNQaCyUpBuIGIdcqGqe1lDf3/sVMCaZOM7rvRAJ1Mp+dowWCtxiMABVfM dfP5sRA1gnlnZkzpDV8XwCQzc5mLgka9fLSmUxyKBeGDKQeH1FTCTPV6A4NoGPWNJ8Lr pLc/iFj/9QD3t05fN5v3/xFzvIRrNG96XXiTaCUJSRMmeOSEVyhD7+9kgrNS0rXOfBPh IApgE7TGcBh8lYS9qbsBEvELp9MRyjuTMnFbu5VvZXFM6FAHHgeaBFYaBK5IXILsw1Ge PbGsto5Rs/WvslWW9+s4GF/Br7zDqTEkZmkVJ5ZIq0lE+CSdV+YZT3/cX+nsScInAXna Ib+w== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5gSktQk73rJA6wa4HcWfSo5hB8dApcldGYO+P6RtTN/UeRQqG6n zVtwN5G7QwBrwY/ib0ghIOXF7XlSAw== X-Received: by 10.55.46.5 with SMTP id u5mr5918058qkh.217.1501917266220; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 00:14:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.82.21 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Aug 2017 00:14:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83r2wqwn3o.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83r2wqwn3o.fsf@gnu.org> From: Fabrice Popineau Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 09:14:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#27956: 26.0.50; Setting load-prefer-newer breaks Emacs startup To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114f14e0229d840555fc5d1b" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27956 Cc: 27956@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) --001a114f14e0229d840555fc5d1b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I had to "touch /path/to/emacs/lisp/files/*.elc" after installation to fix it. 2017-08-05 8:22 GMT+02:00 Eli Zaretskii : > > From: Fabrice Popineau > > Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 20:52:45 +0200 > > > > ;; Eval: > > (setq load-prefer-newer t) > > ;; and then for example: > > (delete-selection-mode t) > > > > results in an error and the following in the *Messages* buffer: > > > > insert-file-contents: Recursive load: "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/ > emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/debug.el.gz", > > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz", > > "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/delsel.el.gz" > > I don't see this in Emacs 25.2, and I don't have the current master > installed to test there. So maybe this is a new thing on master. > --001a114f14e0229d840555fc5d1b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had to "touch /path/to/emacs/lisp/files/*.elc"= after installation to fix it.



2017-08-05 8:22 GMT+02:00 = Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
= > From: Fabrice Popineau <fabrice.popineau@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 20:52:45 +0200
>
> ;; Eval:
> (setq load-prefer-newer t)
> ;; and then for example:
> (delete-selection-mode t)
>
> results in an error and the following in the *Messages* buffer:
>
> insert-file-contents: Recursive load: "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.el.gz",
> "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/= debug.el.gz",
> "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.e= l.gz",
> "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.e= l.gz",
> "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.e= l.gz",
> "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/jka-compr.e= l.gz",
> "c:/MSys64/MingW64/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/delsel.el.g= z"

I don't see this in Emacs 25.2, and I don't have the current master=
installed to test there.=C2=A0 So maybe this is a new thing on master.

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Do you mean that compressing files with gzip doesn't preserve their time stamps? It does here. The gzip manual specifically says: `gzip' reduces the size of the named files using Lempel-Ziv coding (LZ77). Whenever possible, each file is replaced by one with the extension `.gz', while keeping the same ownership modes, access and modification times. What version of gzip did you use? 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Do you mean that compressing files with gzip doesn't preserve > their time stamps? It does here. The gzip manual specifically says: > > `gzip' reduces the size of the named files using Lempel-Ziv coding > (LZ77). Whenever possible, each file is replaced by one with the > extension `.gz', while keeping the same ownership modes, access and > modification times. > > What version of gzip did you use? > Ok, you are right. There is a version 1.6 of gzip.exe distributed with TeXLive that has interfered here. It doesn't preserve timestamps when compressing files. This is definitely a problem, but not in emacs. The 1.8 gzip.exe from MSYS2 does preserve timestamps. Sorry for the noise. --001a114005b6e93ac60555fccf83 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2017-08-05 9:30 GMT+02:00 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
=
> From: Fabrice Popineau <fabrice.popineau@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 09:14:05 +0200
> Cc: 27956@debbugs.gnu.org=
>
> I had to "touch /path/to/emacs/lisp/files/*.elc" after = installation to fix it.

??? Do you mean that compressing files with gzip doesn't preserv= e
their time stamps?=C2=A0 It does here.=C2=A0 The gzip manual specifically s= ays:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0`gzip' reduces the size of the named files using Le= mpel-Ziv coding
=C2=A0 (LZ77).=C2=A0 Whenever possible, each file is replaced by one with t= he
=C2=A0 extension `.gz', while keeping the same ownership modes, access = and
=C2=A0 modification times.

What version of gzip did you use?

Ok, y= ou are right. There is a version 1.6 of gzip.exe =C2=A0distributed with TeX= Live that has interfered here.
It doesn't preserve timest= amps when compressing files. This is definitely a problem, but not in emacs= .

The 1.8 gzip.exe from MSYS2 does preserve timest= amps.

Sorry for the noise.


--001a114005b6e93ac60555fccf83-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 05 03:52:13 2017 Received: (at 27956-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2017 07:52:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42410 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtsb-0003OC-BI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:52:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48846) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtsZ-0003Nz-Uy for 27956-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:52:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtsR-0006xL-Ko for 27956-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:52:06 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38023) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtsR-0006wy-Hj; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:52:03 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1340 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ddtsP-0007Z7-1m; Sat, 05 Aug 2017 03:52:02 -0400 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 10:51:52 +0300 Message-Id: <83fud6wixz.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Fabrice Popineau In-reply-to: (message from Fabrice Popineau on Sat, 5 Aug 2017 09:46:11 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#27956: 26.0.50; Setting load-prefer-newer breaks Emacs startup References: <83r2wqwn3o.fsf@gnu.org> <83h8xmwjyd.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27956-done Cc: 27956-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Fabrice Popineau > Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 09:46:11 +0200 > Cc: 27956@debbugs.gnu.org > > `gzip' reduces the size of the named files using Lempel-Ziv coding > (LZ77). Whenever possible, each file is replaced by one with the > extension `.gz', while keeping the same ownership modes, access and > modification times. > > What version of gzip did you use? > > Ok, you are right. There is a version 1.6 of gzip.exe distributed with TeXLive that has interfered here. > It doesn't preserve timestamps when compressing files. This is definitely a problem, but not in emacs. > > The 1.8 gzip.exe from MSYS2 does preserve timestamps. Heh, I have MSYS Gzip 1.3.5 and GnuWin32 Gzip 1.2.4 here, and they both preserve timestamps. So I guess what you have is some botched port of Gzip. > Sorry for the noise. No sweat. Closing. From unknown Mon Aug 18 18:01:21 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2017 11:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator