From unknown Thu Aug 14 12:23:33 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#27923 <27923@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#27923 <27923@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry Reply-To: bug#27923 <27923@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 19:23:33 +0000 retitle 27923 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry reassign 27923 emacs submitter 27923 Geoff Kuenning severity 27923 minor tag 27923 moreinfo thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 02 16:41:54 2017 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Aug 2017 20:41:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38956 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dd0So-0000pC-Gn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2017 16:41:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40409) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dd0Sn-0000p0-Ql for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2017 16:41:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dd0Sh-0000Dg-BW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2017 16:41:48 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:43172) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dd0Sh-0000DY-7U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2017 16:41:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59602) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dd0Sf-0000wG-Dt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2017 16:41:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dd0Sb-0000AQ-Ui for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2017 16:41:45 -0400 Received: from mallet.cs.hmc.edu ([134.173.42.59]:57464) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dd0Sb-00007i-K2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2017 16:41:41 -0400 Received: by mallet.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix, from userid 13409) id 9617EDC15C5; Wed, 2 Aug 2017 13:41:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Geoff Kuenning To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2017 13:41:38 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) In 24.3.1, starting emacs with the "-iconic" switch causes the main emacs window to be sized to the width of the icon rather than the width specified in the X resource database. Interestingly, the height is still correct. Compare the window created by: $ emacs & with the one from: $ emacs -iconic & On my system, the output for "xrdb -query | grep -i emacs" is: gnuemacs.geometry: 80x78+1180+0 Emacs.Font: -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal-*-15-*-100-100-*-*-ISO8859-1 gnuemacs*cursorColor: red lemacs*cursorColor: red (I realize that some of these entries are obsolete...) In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.20.10) of 2017-07-05 on cloud131 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11803000 System Description: openSUSE Leap 42.2 Configured using: `configure '--with-pop' '--without-hesiod' '--with-kerberos' '--with-kerberos5' '--with-xim' '--with-wide-int' '--enable-autodepend' '--prefix=/usr' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--localstatedir=/var' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--with-x' '--with-sound' '--with-xpm' '--with-jpeg' '--with-tiff' '--with-gif' '--with-png' '--with-rsvg' '--with-dbus' '--without-gpm' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk3' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' '--x-includes=/usr/include' '--x-libraries=/usr/lib64' '--with-xft' '--with-libotf' '--with-m17n-flt' '--build=x86_64-suse-linux' 'build_alias=x86_64-suse-linux' 'CFLAGS=-fmessage-length=0 -grecord-gcc-switches -O2 -Wall -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fstack-protector -funwind-tables -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -g -D_GNU_SOURCE -pipe -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-unused-variable -Wno-unused-label -Wno-unprototyped-calls -fno-optimize-sibling-calls -DSYSTEM_PURESIZE_EXTRA=55000 -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=10000 ' 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O2 -Wl,--hash-size=65521'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: en_US.utf-8 value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LC_NUMERIC: POSIX value of $LANG: en_US.utf-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Text Minor modes in effect: desktop-save-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t auto-fill-function: do-auto-fill Recent input: M-x e m a c s - b u C-g M-x a p r o p o s b u g C-x o C-v C-v C-v C-v C-x 0 M-x r e p o r t Recent messages: Loading `uniquify': old-style backquotes detected! 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From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 17 05:22:38 2017 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2017 09:22:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41997 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1diH0g-0006n2-9u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2017 05:22:38 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:64753) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1diH0f-0006mp-7b for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2017 05:22:37 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([46.125.250.43]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Ldttv-1dIFzr0y2t-00j4P9; Thu, 17 Aug 2017 11:22:28 +0200 Message-ID: <5995604A.3050605@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 11:22:18 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Geoff Kuenning , 27923@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:qHQbM4NlKKyDlSbbzq0tXnowK4Gl1rXaSE4zQh/tRfdx+dgKE9g a8+2Y4oJ6rc8BcLKX40dYgbQrUcI9ouCvLGIdJSfP+iKRQxv6NCfv7faa/EpyjoDf3cmwS0 nCQYVSf2JF2doDrL9YK2306l8pjOWROynBwK5cUUOb5Kup3SjMkOckByryL1DdDxWclbOJU TSAxJ2dzGmqL7vpHpqZ5A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:bQqrnxvwOgA=:HxfdSmM7vygH+SVnl1l8Uj tI0yA/8tj5aE7t8EdRO/3qBQiVD5fgJJqjgr2FqNLaZW+751jnyKCVaf0uKgo7yizuwj0WQAX KM1KwRhxc1CEhEblAMZ1h2N9+7zqb9KPzLRfvahAffstJppBTnChHulx197acS7bNT4uqTqT/ HXamhyn4vrDTbY3PkAitgM2VgRZ//FIw835AAtFTVb6XmIEelmD6ejgHovAW4znfsX1539YrF i0WYfHqE8oLeJRVCcaZ1IFBsUkWgtBAQGeoi4LCSlDWQZHh98c3MJdyUn38wWfLJAPaK3vLz4 qEfFwSsIBqEX9LLDYcBLVJ1FXM/ioVDQeat1Ea+4RQr4ISh7eIWfgndOk8tjVhbrBMsyNt6Qq PaqvB8puaBtRQNpQFyjxqWrPVE3hPjcF8FfjcVngPwmprzJCWUbGqjd3vfVEdPXCtVIbrAROr J+GWJMl+IUqusDgeMxoMNQJJ2ONAjXsNp+LhOfhwYV1mboyAbDg2qDzhJ8BGe+08GE3muXidM SVdTlm3Ka+nhOwzw8E3k/m7eNNvPSiriWbfodLYKTNblkW85eHc6cCEV4GhYyI1xyCjgy2hd7 Wr21DwFdjtRPNVlZ8qyLRMwawNCQ+vKBJFgBRs/38RULxjGrBfKumHSzaNgZem/mQ0vomOpiX jScS0pVpN5Rg03FMVFpOG6t+ZkUpzeRQ5aii234KSsWTMRSDVjm2qtbYsyE8pWKhXYmA8jhZU 6IoJ4DCXtQq5B2clI2qGMn78eduXc/nsGTpKQy17A/1O6GrHCNVyw/rRMx5BGwyOq+QfolmdG XvZGT/d7qgewOqUnNRnVZ0HfevKdGCs7AlOXcZdY54n/w3bgfgOkIVUZO8qf0wYn6i2zXXu X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) > In 24.3.1, starting emacs with the "-iconic" switch causes the main > emacs window to be sized to the width of the icon rather than the width > specified in the X resource database. Interestingly, the height is > still correct. Compare the window created by: > > $ emacs & > > with the one from: > > $ emacs -iconic & > > On my system, the output for "xrdb -query | grep -i emacs" is: > > gnuemacs.geometry: 80x78+1180+0 > Emacs.Font: -misc-fixed-bold-r-normal-*-15-*-100-100-*-*-ISO8859-1 > gnuemacs*cursorColor: red > lemacs*cursorColor: red > > (I realize that some of these entries are obsolete...) Thanks for the report; apologizes for the late response. Are you sure that your display is at least 1900 pixels wide? If so, then when with emacs -Q you evaluate the form (setq default-frame-alist '((width . 80) (height . 78) (left . 1180) (font . "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal-*-15-*-100-100-*-*-ISO8859-1") (visibility . icon))) and subsequently do C-x 5 2 and deiconify the new frame, does it have the desired properties? Thanks, martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 19 05:55:50 2017 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2017 09:55:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45167 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dj0Tu-00037C-9D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2017 05:55:50 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:53894) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dj0Ts-00036y-Dc for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2017 05:55:48 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([46.125.249.118]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0ME47n-1dnAwe37wl-00HR9u; Sat, 19 Aug 2017 11:55:39 +0200 Message-ID: <59980B16.1020307@gmx.at> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 11:55:34 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Geoff Kuenning Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <5995604A.3050605@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:iHd0RnbsD2M57vlWy+TkTVgr/mVHlgleU+nDP2xLrlRY64g8sVO G0J91hNugr2wCzXCNnKvyHyGebNZLx78fMPDJMxeglPKgtnFzdi8s2wrnjsiv/EauDmfu4x ZTvbObmRarC+0JHMqEFEMCJVZgF2zLnAprredzdaoF6tggN/xskpI5jpPjxN5qwh6VGW16K eRR6rP8qFl3OYGnPXW1pQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:A2Q0klANQNY=:a3rEwVtM/03aT/TJKVs+M3 z+m1j6MyCJrtL14NC7fM7vCgluAi6n29wSdIOQeKI8IL1HM+j1EOWoAY3VdTmO9q0Wi1RDbHC r/gBMl9b+TJIdgsO78fmpg+5qRd5IY1NNLFcSzhxIkAuAuOENh3hdKWUHk0dZI+M7A/mNxajl 8hPXD7JDsJiaxIFvUnd9RZN0q25u8clQKJdlHNVQyGs+uCnwIrOGwYS8GUgl3R8rOfgD7+bsV aelDakZLRgZVpKQ0Qij4bwXdvt1pyN0/2H9AddYBygAISg4J8xEfLMnUZgK9/omf/bBpsRCeG MWjHV5aahxxOAuPuKWArVAcDXNf5BTgvjNtLza7IeB1vvqw44sUvkZhLQzDGUXkGx8WiI6Q8l 0ILFHSRqnRM6btdrCGFK1RgiHX30Z9DKKhSuBgHDowWAGwD9EKX1EdO4A8jJf08i/5nl4HFBX BqvGLS2pqjaZwpcA3MVN52OcCRJGFCP42PsjyNoHKtowHpVSB1l+m9H7bEOb+LXe9r/trGHdl Lc9g4FMVdGooW5URyZWXNlUYtcCieZKWL2yObJa7QBfGvxVJX+WqyVO+7DjC54152aNwZMZ7m b4++3RZwgqjSXlvWR9ZPVp2S034Dj//H/8hVE4FnXPYy3g94ud70cpamwYW4WX5mWvNCMQdGQ dCEIOSDyGxSDN6s8EYimBE+zdEk5ZO+RLDFNShlW3sgzRXidKTiRmzCh3CgeH7dl6m52LqigI x9e/v6jevH6KtyQtrXXY3cAxVFne8LnnQzFzZSUpoyq8+Uc3/gthvyahxOjkO3J2HnODqHMPE Dru+y0DxYQ7qPf7afZ2KgLCcg1P81b2HHYbe9Hkr56ZBEhi4G2glf/e/c6ScEWRe9LASqI+ X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) > My display is 3840x1200. I'm pretty sure that's wider than 1900. ;-) That's bad because it means we are in the area of one of the most elusive bugs I've seen over the past years. Your scenario has been already reported (with .emacs instead of using a resource file) as https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=24526 and probably also here https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=25943 The underlying problem seems to be that the geometry settings for an invisible or iconified frame get lost somewhere and are not processed (or even reverted) when the frame is made visible. On Windows, the bug manifests itself when specifying the geometry in the init file but not when the geometry is specified as command argument. On GNU/Linux the bug seems to depend on the window manager - I can't reproduce it here on Debian using Xfwm. > In your suggested test, yes, setting default-frame-alist and then > creating a new iconified frame does indeed give me the desired > properties. Which suggests that creating the initial frame with its dimensions is the culprit. What does M-: RET (frame-width) RET of the deformed frame print? > Please let me know if there are any additional tests you'd like me to perform. There are. First I would like to see whether the bug occurs with all possible invocation scenarios in the same way. Please invoke Emacs as emacs -Q --iconic --geometry 80x78+1180+0 --font "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal-*-15-*-100-100-*-*-ISO8859-1" as emacs -Q --iconic --load ~/init.el with init.el specified as (setq default-frame-alist '((width . 80) (height . 78) (left . 1180) (font . "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal-*-15-*-100-100-*-*-ISO8859-1"))) and as emacs -Q --load ~/init.el with init.el specified as (setq default-frame-alist '((width . 80) (height . 78) (left . 1180) (font . "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal-*-15-*-100-100-*-*-ISO8859-1") (visibility . icon))) and tell me whether the results are the same. Also, please tell me what your original scenario gives with the line specifying the font setting removed from the resource file. Thanks, martin PS: Please keep 27923@debbugs.gnu.org CC'd From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 14 19:12:55 2017 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2017 00:12:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40778 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eElK3-00017N-8V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:12:55 -0500 Received: from mallet.cs.hmc.edu ([134.173.42.59]:40774) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eElK0-00017E-PI for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:12:53 -0500 Received: from bow.cs.hmc.edu (bow-vpn.cs.hmc.edu [10.81.251.5]) by mallet.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A16ADC0676; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:12:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by bow.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix, from userid 13409) id 6797F6EA09C8; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:12:51 -0800 (PST) From: Geoff Kuenning To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <5995604A.3050605@gmx.at> <59980B16.1020307@gmx.at> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:12:51 -0800 In-Reply-To: <59980B16.1020307@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Sat, 19 Aug 2017 11:55:34 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hi, Martin, I apologize profusely for my unacceptably long delay in answering your questions; your message slipped by me and I only found it when I was cleaning up old emails. FWIW, when I was doing the tests below there was a brief flash on my screen each time I launched emacs, implying that the window is first mapped and then unmapped. I don't know of that's related to the problem. > emacs -Q --iconic --geometry 80x78+1180+0 --font > "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal-*-15-*-100-100-*-*-ISO8859-1" This works correctly, but the geometry reported by xwininfo is 79x77+100+0 (which is related to my Emacs.geometry Xrdb setting rather than my gnuemacs.geometry). > emacs -Q --iconic --load ~/init.el works entirely correctly with the first init.el (including correct X placement). > emacs -Q --load ~/init.el works entirely correctly with the second init.el. > Also, please tell me what > your original scenario gives with the line specifying the font > setting > removed from the resource file. That one still fails. >> My display is 3840x1200. I'm pretty sure that's wider than >> 1900. ;-) > > That's bad because it means we are in the area of one of the > most > elusive bugs I've seen over the past years. Your scenario has > been > already reported (with .emacs instead of using a resource file) > as > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=24526 > > and probably also here > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=25943 > > The underlying problem seems to be that the geometry settings > for an > invisible or iconified frame get lost somewhere and are not > processed > (or even reverted) when the frame is made visible. On Windows, > the bug > manifests itself when specifying the geometry in the init file > but not > when the geometry is specified as command argument. On > GNU/Linux the > bug seems to depend on the window manager - I can't reproduce it > here on > Debian using Xfwm. > >> In your suggested test, yes, setting default-frame-alist and >> then >> creating a new iconified frame does indeed give me the desired >> properties. > > Which suggests that creating the initial frame with its > dimensions is > the culprit. What does M-: RET (frame-width) RET of the > deformed frame > print? > >> Please let me know if there are any additional tests you'd like >> me to perform. > > There are. First I would like to see whether the bug occurs > with all > possible invocation scenarios in the same way. Please invoke > Emacs as > > emacs -Q --iconic --geometry 80x78+1180+0 --font > "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal-*-15-*-100-100-*-*-ISO8859-1" > > as > > emacs -Q --iconic --load ~/init.el > > with init.el specified as > > (setq default-frame-alist > '((width . 80) > (height . 78) > (left . 1180) > (font > . "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal-*-15-*-100-100-*-*-ISO8859-1"))) > > and as > > emacs -Q --load ~/init.el > > with init.el specified as > > (setq default-frame-alist > '((width . 80) > (height . 78) > (left . 1180) > (font > . "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal-*-15-*-100-100-*-*-ISO8859-1") > (visibility . icon))) > > and tell me whether the results are the same. Also, please tell > me what > your original scenario gives with the line specifying the font > setting > removed from the resource file. > > Thanks, martin > > PS: Please keep 27923@debbugs.gnu.org CC'd > -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@cs.hmc.edu http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~geoff/ An Internet that is not Open represents a potentially grave risk to freedoms of many sorts -- freedom of speech and other civil liberties, freedom of commerce, and more -- and that openness is what we must so diligently work to both preserve and expand. -- Lauren Weinstein From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 16 04:04:55 2017 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2017 09:04:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42537 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFG6R-0007Z7-2g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 04:04:55 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:57144) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFG6P-0007Yr-1Y for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 04:04:53 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([46.125.250.87]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M9sa0-1eLtvX3uci-00B4Rh; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 10:04:44 +0100 Message-ID: <5A0D54A1.3020307@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 10:04:33 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Geoff Kuenning Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <5995604A.3050605@gmx.at> <59980B16.1020307@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:2NRKSTbtuhTZHO2JQYNRZXSdnozGbONZgeVd0fZ9zKvfvcuaLAX HxkQTIHk7SG4t8t+H2KD8L9uthR7ve9HIcKPFAAk0cepAI3BXE2vEyQGUuG+MRB9Us+jNeO InFPsZh4acF12MiL6S4eK5noXuZSlQc2K0gEa1CVYpDY7++J8cfoEFR+CJxNKTpBTLdJLyP 8bLgICw9U5yoDAAmmVkdA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:AJxAAN4c+24=:iwXA2HOCXnFMLZggDNstJ0 1f/MzF+i3qTvMpwEGjOG98CipfjupzZCO2Af8tE/pv00fhwdaE29kBtcepvhdW6ovKAxNM6C1 Shi09VhTIW9/HrjHqjhFEw+uKLoq7aW9EZTdfGbmJhQrM3/26DLYHz6+Mua5CC6lAcVEZv4a/ 5Z4B4c8rQXK/3R8kbOF0hCNTYy65KZ+mPF090vc1Hd4rZy+Avoz5V1+IWYDhAB5Zs1ftGD01j TFvPOywnrsux2m548blJ46NMO0JjsiC2jL/BdUl7vk0MySQAViUtIv4INVxIlsSxuRGFcZpoG gykXV1f9RPDP1YBatqyzuXaCvu6Du9a7Q6XBNT3BD94cwQvghFJq0nW2+VkFgoP+wD6rbk0vd /8M/gWyI1n0qlPPslDD1Wz7g3aF/8GHFEdipvlXgLCYHUGnkTXLOi70M9JLViI8A0mr5ja1RM 9gjPwhRtVj/xQaOm6EwtxJEZpEN5rqAOzIe/hcfgNPDPDQ0VwXCRHgAYVVbZyQiF24pGtHv15 IzjQsS9cH7FPDXF/5pgkqp6NKVmK6wfD3PD6bmvT9N42aSfdBwQMV1S+20mKqD1abDRZKJFZ1 dTMe2zi0rQB97yHMN6IyLATEy47/v7jXlQv/C46PMx3HJrKhSLwpc4X10C/rajYNFf3vY1CtX POnWXkM/HcYIz3h9Kf6vb4eYC3fubIEkWlnPcIYWtAjfeu4knCxCXeOuwzooEthKIzUWb60ir y3fjNsc+MpHujzqZyK1qgDtZzPjfQRHpKeNZ726rU735OyfiEJ0iXI5lopwqdrNl8IT+XgnDP hh5Hu+qPQVwkdSGYQXszlaFwXXtwVVkSwKE2SflBUkAxTe2S/5FDEaXk35lzkPlh3PDxHIK X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) > FWIW, when I was doing the tests below there was a brief flash on my > screen each time I launched emacs, implying that the window is first > mapped and then unmapped. I don't know of that's related to the > problem. Do the flashes occur only when you load init.el or also when using the --iconic --geometry 80x78+1180+0 switches only? >> emacs -Q --iconic --geometry 80x78+1180+0 --font "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal-*-15-*-100-100-*-*-ISO8859-1" > > This works correctly, but the geometry reported by xwininfo is 79x77+100+0 (which is related to my Emacs.geometry Xrdb setting rather than my gnuemacs.geometry). Do you mean that both sizes are off by one - 80/79 and 78/77 ? What do M-: (frame-width) RET and M-: (frame-height) in such a frame give? Did you remove/comment out the resource settings? IIRC Emacs combines everything it finds and applies the last settings it read. >> emacs -Q --iconic --load ~/init.el > > works entirely correctly with the first init.el (including correct X placement). > >> emacs -Q --load ~/init.el > > works entirely correctly with the second init.el. So apart from the flashes these would be OK? >> Also, please tell me what >> your original scenario gives with the line specifying the font setting >> removed from the resource file. > > That one still fails. "still" in the sense that you get the same bad width? Does removing the font setting change _anything_ in the appearance of the frame? Thanks, martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 16 04:13:33 2017 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2017 09:13:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42548 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFGEn-0007mw-Bu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 04:13:33 -0500 Received: from mallet.cs.hmc.edu ([134.173.42.59]:38200) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFGEl-0007mj-Rl for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 04:13:32 -0500 Received: from bow.cs.hmc.edu (bow-vpn.cs.hmc.edu [10.81.251.5]) by mallet.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88852DC065D; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 01:13:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by bow.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix, from userid 13409) id 5AA9E6EA07D5; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 01:13:30 -0800 (PST) From: Geoff Kuenning To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <5995604A.3050605@gmx.at> <59980B16.1020307@gmx.at> <5A0D54A1.3020307@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 01:13:30 -0800 In-Reply-To: <5A0D54A1.3020307@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Thu, 16 Nov 2017 10:04:33 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Caveat: the testing has all been on my desktop at work, so I can't run new tests at this instant and am working from memory. > Do the flashes occur only when you load init.el or also when > using the > --iconic --geometry 80x78+1180+0 switches only? My memory is that they happen at all times when using --iconic. >>> emacs -Q --iconic --geometry 80x78+1180+0 --font >>> "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal-*-15-*-100-100-*-*-ISO8859-1" >> >> This works correctly, but the geometry reported by xwininfo is >> 79x77+100+0 (which is related to my Emacs.geometry Xrdb setting >> rather than my gnuemacs.geometry). > > Do you mean that both sizes are off by one - 80/79 and 78/77 ? > What do Yes, the size should be 80x78 and instead comes up as 79x77. Weird, huh? > M-: (frame-width) RET > > and > > M-: (frame-height) I'll try to remember to try those tomorrow. > in such a frame give? Did you remove/comment out the resource > settings? > IIRC Emacs combines everything it finds and applies the last > settings it > read. When running without -Q, I used grep to remove resource settings from my master parameter file and reloaded that into X11 with xrdb. >>> emacs -Q --iconic --load ~/init.el >> >> works entirely correctly with the first init.el (including >> correct X >> placement). >> >>> emacs -Q --load ~/init.el >> >> works entirely correctly with the second init.el. > > So apart from the flashes these would be OK? Yes. And I never would have noticed the flashes if I hadn't been testing; they're under 1/10 second and happen when I'm logging in every morning. >>> Also, please tell me what >>> your original scenario gives with the line specifying the font >>> setting >>> removed from the resource file. >> >> That one still fails. > > "still" in the sense that you get the same bad width? Does > removing the > font setting change _anything_ in the appearance of the frame? Yes, the same bad width. I'll check carefully tomorrow to see whether there is any frame change. -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@cs.hmc.edu http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~geoff/ Statistics don't bore people, people bore people. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 16 04:29:23 2017 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2017 09:29:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42572 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFGU7-0008EH-Dl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 04:29:23 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:63885) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFGU5-0008E4-DR for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 04:29:21 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([46.125.250.87]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M7HGA-1f9xuR1MhS-00x69y; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 10:29:13 +0100 Message-ID: <5A0D5A5E.4080405@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 10:29:02 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Geoff Kuenning Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <5995604A.3050605@gmx.at> <59980B16.1020307@gmx.at> <5A0D54A1.3020307@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:v7YZ58/nmoWPwS2GRRxd70l5g0AdDuYQB5acUjxsMEOZuVU1VBX rKyRaJ9wG72F1IKGD2P07YJO8y5lE2NxVGCuPNXBcwbAgfgjVqQFKa3189UI1y3Qcu5uwmb O7yWQCRC8xd8SravQrNh5AeVR+n2Pxr58pVcw4kRBIDOdAE3P7c08rr4bGF6F/IhU7P021a d9d4bjVehTg0f3Or6k0Sw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:sH5J50Z5P9M=:XVjbGRq52y2kGAzdhyxaZE 59knHbCPPkBtOJrDEXdpa7y84kt0meQHUN7LToSCWUxoifHWhq8k16xGfGcyJbNhoLYDXD5O8 QHw+JzoWweKZ1vBi02QcxxVqT9se1YbU2O+LMDZU4JPP0KEcKs/MApHn8LxA9tV3Y67eGDd2h 7ay5jK/4UkGzPyLgWxsDinCil8cs9NgPKjGm1cruletBCUULXyFV2RHYop9Fs4UrTAu5WthNv ddCTHLnQbYck2VWuq98QcC6SeROwmOyBrmlUs9ns5TaPDe+k8ZiOt96gTbQ3Y4horm0N2aU45 JPJCItyBMuoBvZ4hBYN77iUY19pz/TojIoU8+/DTu8EaBKBAEd6G2sioIPxuQD+3eagmekTm5 31b45rBIJRvVaWikkeehzGsr8S7yVoTBanFtg/uvWcXZnjIS63UC1kd2RaPjT1h1EZwc3xCA+ s3OOddmvtTM0cfXyrZgp26UZxg0lwuCesbPjcZ0E7ebYSSGB9vXFuQOIbRq0DRzxjOJKQo48s HJvrw5cZ0vs3vNpBPsl3SvIoQpR3Zo1qXnRUnAgJPe3vctbuMdAixI8lGvdu1x4L+o/z9Uvmd acKAOn8OmYciQQvEzIlm1WzejIvtEfgSXrte5wH7L4zjA4Zg6+7S71ar65LwJ4ARQU7/XbonT zoMTNxk1LBWyDpnVBY1jDRK/SocffZsRXo3pH8Su0lOdu3MXXXqSASNp0weJVqgXnkJ+YwG8r ATJk6yFLoOTz1fUW3W9+uj2nOc4XQVXk2g19yR9plhUY+keU/7qEKsdGy/SER3pc8fxeHzVH6 p8a+iMNivG3A+Nd72J1ALxuQRBGj06r6UhbO3Z1Ubfz4gypXDN+dXQLFwxrr3QqY6GW4pcq X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) >> Do you mean that both sizes are off by one - 80/79 and 78/77 ? What do > > Yes, the size should be 80x78 and instead comes up as 79x77. Weird, huh? There might be some snafu with how to count in toolbar, menubar and scrollbar. >> M-: (frame-width) RET >> >> and >> >> M-: (frame-height) > > I'll try to remember to try those tomorrow. Please do that. It will tell us what Emacs thinks about the "realized" size. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 16 18:16:11 2017 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2017 23:16:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44005 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFTOE-0000HB-PW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:16:11 -0500 Received: from mallet.cs.hmc.edu ([134.173.42.59]:49028) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFTOC-0000Gz-MG for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:16:09 -0500 Received: from bow.cs.hmc.edu (bow-vpn.cs.hmc.edu [10.81.251.5]) by mallet.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419C5DC15FC; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 15:16:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by bow.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix, from userid 13409) id 2FD6D6EA0987; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 15:16:07 -0800 (PST) From: Geoff Kuenning To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <5995604A.3050605@gmx.at> <59980B16.1020307@gmx.at> <5A0D54A1.3020307@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 15:16:07 -0800 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) (frame-width) and (frame-height) give 80 and 78, respectively. And I double-checked that xwininfo indeed says 79x77+100+0. (This is when starting with -Q, --iconic, --geometry, --font, and my default resources.) If I grep all emacs-related resources from my xrdb file and reload it, starting with the same command gives the same inconsistency between frame-width/height and xwininfo. Perhaps the width issue is because one character space is allocated to the scrollbar? I also tried removing both emacs-related and font-related resources from the RDB, again getting the width/height inconsistency. But just to make sure we're talking about the same thing, in all of these cases emacs is coming up with a correct window size after I deiconify it. Hmmm, though...I just discovered that "emacs -Q --iconic" produces a different result: it creates an 80x35 frame (79x34 according to xwininfo) even when my xrdb contains both an Emacs.geometry of 80x78+100+0 and a slightly conflicting gnuemacs.geometry of 80x78+1180+0. (I have no clue why I have both!) This implies that there's something in my .emacs that's relevant. I did some binary searching and narrowed it down to a relatively small area. However, in the process I discovered that there must be a race, because on a hunch I tried launching twice with no change in my .emacs, and once was OK and once produced the narrow window. Anyway, I finally got down to the following two lines: (menu-bar-mode -1) (set-default-font (x-get-resource "Font" "")) With both of those present, I get the absurdly narrow frame. If I remove the first, then I get a frame that's 38x78. If I leave the first and remove the second, I get a teeny frame that's too small to type in, but xwininfo reports it as 1x1 (so suppose emacs thinks it's 2x2). And if I remove both, I get a properly sized frame. (This is all with my xrdb restored, BTW.) But that's not the strangest part. I cut my .emacs down to JUST those two lines, and things then worked fine. More testing eventually gave me the following .emacs file (this is 100% of the contents): (if nil (setq load-path (append (mapcar '(lambda (value) (if (and (stringp value) (not (string-match "^/usr/local/" value)) (string-match "^/usr/" value)) (replace-match "/usr/local/" t t value) value)) load-path) load-path))) (menu-bar-mode -1) (set-default-font (x-get-resource "Font" "")) Obviously, the first bit of code doesn't get executed. But if I remove it, launching in iconic mode works! Having it there makes stuff break. Note that the .emacs above is 532 bytes. Is there an ancient 512-byte buffer somewhere? I tried replacing the "if nil" part with 512 semicolons, but that didn't produce an error. Color me confused... >> FWIW, when I was doing the tests below there was a brief flash >> on my >> screen each time I launched emacs, implying that the window is >> first >> mapped and then unmapped. I don't know of that's related to >> the >> problem. > > Do the flashes occur only when you load init.el or also when > using the > --iconic --geometry 80x78+1180+0 switches only? > >>> emacs -Q --iconic --geometry 80x78+1180+0 --font >>> "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal-*-15-*-100-100-*-*-ISO8859-1" >> >> This works correctly, but the geometry reported by xwininfo is >> 79x77+100+0 (which is related to my Emacs.geometry Xrdb setting >> rather than my gnuemacs.geometry). > > Do you mean that both sizes are off by one - 80/79 and 78/77 ? > What do > > M-: (frame-width) RET > > and > > M-: (frame-height) > > in such a frame give? Did you remove/comment out the resource > settings? > IIRC Emacs combines everything it finds and applies the last > settings it > read. > >>> emacs -Q --iconic --load ~/init.el >> >> works entirely correctly with the first init.el (including >> correct X >> placement). >> >>> emacs -Q --load ~/init.el >> >> works entirely correctly with the second init.el. > > So apart from the flashes these would be OK? > >>> Also, please tell me what >>> your original scenario gives with the line specifying the font >>> setting >>> removed from the resource file. >> >> That one still fails. > > "still" in the sense that you get the same bad width? Does > removing the > font setting change _anything_ in the appearance of the frame? > > Thanks, martin > -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@cs.hmc.edu http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~geoff/ A programmer who can't write readable prose is as incompetent as one who can't produce working code. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 16 18:20:28 2017 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2017 23:20:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44011 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFTSO-0000NG-EM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:20:28 -0500 Received: from mallet.cs.hmc.edu ([134.173.42.59]:49104) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFTSM-0000N8-8q for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:20:26 -0500 Received: from bow.cs.hmc.edu (bow-vpn.cs.hmc.edu [10.81.251.5]) by mallet.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D9BDC15FC; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 15:20:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by bow.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix, from userid 13409) id 91BBB6EA0987; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 15:20:25 -0800 (PST) From: Geoff Kuenning To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <5995604A.3050605@gmx.at> <59980B16.1020307@gmx.at> <5A0D54A1.3020307@gmx.at> <5A0D5A5E.4080405@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 15:20:25 -0800 In-Reply-To: <5A0D5A5E.4080405@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Thu, 16 Nov 2017 10:29:02 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) One other thing: I just checked the actual width of my frame by typing 80 characters, and it's 80 characters even though xwininfo is reporting 79. So I think this is either an actual xwininfo bug, or a minor interaction between emacs and X that causes the character size of a pixel window to be seen slightly incorrectly. >>> Do you mean that both sizes are off by one - 80/79 and 78/77 ? >>> What do >> >> Yes, the size should be 80x78 and instead comes up as >> 79x77. Weird, huh? > > There might be some snafu with how to count in toolbar, menubar > and > scrollbar. > >>> M-: (frame-width) RET >>> >>> and >>> >>> M-: (frame-height) >> >> I'll try to remember to try those tomorrow. > > Please do that. It will tell us what Emacs thinks about the > "realized" > size. > > martin > -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@cs.hmc.edu http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~geoff/ The P in "PDF" is a lie. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 17 03:52:28 2017 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2017 08:52:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44179 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFcNv-0007J9-Ve for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 03:52:28 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:57966) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFcNt-0007It-IJ for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 03:52:26 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([46.125.250.116]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MdEsh-1eX0Xc3DsJ-00IRRW; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 09:52:15 +0100 Message-ID: <5A0EA33D.2080004@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 09:52:13 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Geoff Kuenning Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <5995604A.3050605@gmx.at> <59980B16.1020307@gmx.at> <5A0D54A1.3020307@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:pP8pM2IZmQD0oxQjz3/H9/nkeUY+dvOYI1tORtMvEqO5UqKEbXS 6UI1BTfagnZ7kZ5+jIF4w7saT3a3zgt1MvwMwS4k3dQ/xDJSJG4btCCXDWUdVlp+SlKkuJI a7RCzuDdIgn8I0AoSZkCfAe/HSyiES9X0bcXnyeKNsWwpKBlxjzoytlse2DaXuWmsuc+tOA mb8nb3wKmaCLSrOWfToTQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:3L2sAgrkHgU=:+NRzyOvoYkLwUX5BSgAKpt 7UMC7uWg5iHOpmUnQSf06Hl/ceuqFxx/2QbTmMglzAbGCryG0OFsH8SaTiEcrFReUzAKib9+g SDsxLVFtzPiOmZxiR6YqzWw3FT222exD9KW6NLNAIpOVYl8GUUYm0yrZyO9Zl2rUqN79Tr5bH HLE6hzZRt6drZ9Gnu+lFxlpns3qhKhDfkgKdQC/CwpMyxugxe6KpDTMLCwYFAVXmusccgUcel HK7QDuFcsRXFoGZUu9R/6nb9G/b5wzjME2TMrwjhjK0AzcZtWJ3WiyrHIOnlZGglFHeBLxgvk fWcdrooYoGqXc6J0MRF7SWP37zh6DOV1UrDQGwjwfriTQ/dM3914FVaE6c+8nE7rJeIQeukFH np67WTmFRqyiRU4fPWTg/9UX6sdNHaVQ4elmrkwX3vaUWS8U7b5tEYsVj+ViZXkjmbqI9WPqz V2As8Oq3HixLSLg3YKH5iLRMlAnUYCRlmHthh5vE6yvkJbgRf2AW8kgG9hrz3cdI9VliN1aDx +ml0JY7aX7q4E9AVh6NjDhi6UgrTLboFrqQz2P6XOyiYNbfGrpX8f87PBCXLgvcPfqf02Wjxg 88RermVcuwhG6+w4tGFUVUGBPwlfBEKMquerDgyPk5KVyp5rs1OzVEy2JzbU7OaHWZE0ro9n0 8kWGjP2mOdpBPVlqJnqFtydHbA/nyEmrGQcm80M/9VaGuCSIF2MGJ3fhvitj2E+D6Ftf5ACis i2lN9+JsIOazvb+TjZfORsLCzVADvO+LvuVtGss6HU0bfqbUlHZMiDS6Uaalk9DdtSocXbty6 jWRXuSMKGHaigkfYob9IEsSYWPCEBo4olY6WsqnzKj3F2PvKcEZcMPOu2BeXWMADTl8KlAk X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) > (frame-width) and (frame-height) give 80 and 78, respectively. And I > double-checked that xwininfo indeed says 79x77+100+0. (This is when > starting with -Q, --iconic, --geometry, --font, and my default > resources.) With Emacs you traditionally set (via 'set-frame-height' and 'set-frame-width') and retrieve (via 'frame-height' and 'frame-width') the size of a somehwat fictitious area which includes one scroll bar and fringes sometimes a toolbar and a menubar. With GTK builds, tool- and menubar are usually not counted so I don't understand the 78/77 difference in your case but the 80/79 difference should be explainable by the presence of a scrollbar. All values are rounded to the frame's default character size. Usually, comparing xwininfo output with what Emacs tells you is confusing at least. > If I grep all emacs-related resources from my xrdb file and reload it, > starting with the same command gives the same inconsistency between > frame-width/height and xwininfo. Perhaps the width issue is because > one character space is allocated to the scrollbar? I think so too. > But just to make sure we're talking about the same thing, in all of > these cases emacs is coming up with a correct window size after I > deiconify it. I'm not sure I understand the last sentence. Correct in the sense that the main window displays 80x78 characters? > Hmmm, though...I just discovered that "emacs -Q --iconic" produces a > different result: it creates an 80x35 frame (79x34 according to > xwininfo) even when my xrdb contains both an Emacs.geometry of > 80x78+100+0 and a slightly conflicting gnuemacs.geometry of > 80x78+1180+0. (I have no clue why I have both!) This implies that > there's something in my .emacs that's relevant. You mean there's something in your .emacs that gets you a different height: 80/79 without loading .emacs and 35/34 with loading .emacs? > I did some binary searching and narrowed it down to a relatively small > area. However, in the process I discovered that there must be a race, > because on a hunch I tried launching twice with no change in my > .emacs, and once was OK and once produced the narrow window. I'm confused now - is the 35/34 above the width or the height of the frame? > Anyway, I finally got down to the following two lines: > > (menu-bar-mode -1) > (set-default-font (x-get-resource "Font" "")) > With both of those present, I get the absurdly narrow frame. If I > remove the first, then I get a frame that's 38x78. If I leave the > first and remove the second, I get a teeny frame that's too small to > type in, but xwininfo reports it as 1x1 (so suppose emacs thinks it's > 2x2). And if I remove both, I get a properly sized frame. (This is > all with my xrdb restored, BTW.) Sounds weird. BTW what does evaluating (x-get-resource "Font" "") return? > But that's not the strangest part. I cut my .emacs down to JUST those > two lines, and things then worked fine. More testing eventually gave me > the following .emacs file (this is 100% of the contents): > > (if nil > (setq load-path (append > (mapcar > '(lambda (value) > (if (and (stringp value) > (not (string-match "^/usr/local/" value)) > (string-match "^/usr/" value)) > (replace-match "/usr/local/" t t value) > value)) > load-path) > load-path))) > (menu-bar-mode -1) > (set-default-font (x-get-resource "Font" "")) > > Obviously, the first bit of code doesn't get executed. But if I remove > it, launching in iconic mode works! Having it there makes stuff break. > > Note that the .emacs above is 532 bytes. Is there an ancient 512-byte > buffer somewhere? I tried replacing the "if nil" part with 512 > semicolons, but that didn't produce an error. We occasionally use(d) a 512 byte limit to search for the occurrence of something in a file but I see no connection to your case. > Color me confused... Maybe the best thing to do at this moment is that you try with a later version of Emacs, 25.3 at least. My GNU/Linux machine crashed a few years ago and I still did not restore my older Emacs versions including that of Emacs 24. Also, on Windows the --iconic switch did not even work with Emacs 24, so maybe in this area something has changed on GNU/Linux as well. If you upgrade, we could try to synchronize our observations better. Note that on GNU/Linux it's already an enormous pain to compare the behavior of the same version of Emacs under two different window managers. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 17 03:53:21 2017 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2017 08:53:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44183 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFcOn-0007Ke-Bc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 03:53:21 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:56212) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFcOl-0007KR-Le for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 03:53:20 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([46.125.250.116]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M6P5z-1f8IHM2Stf-00yMwV; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 09:53:11 +0100 Message-ID: <5A0EA36C.8040904@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 09:53:00 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Geoff Kuenning Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <5995604A.3050605@gmx.at> <59980B16.1020307@gmx.at> <5A0D54A1.3020307@gmx.at> <5A0D5A5E.4080405@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:CDT/lYfXofaavGdkXZKTHrZUe5rXrZ0ZB8OUVB9wh0vYh1KD/KK G+g2r9y3GDawX49CinN3Y1e84IhKkIgvgvSWYvJLVoZSbSMJNBB+f/PgW8Yb5pj6GKyA+ZA BzAYeDzUp+IgtLn/3B2RcDnn0c6eMq4V0ZKHxXRWwaG/efKyeRbA0/S3qQAo3DMfLDmu5Bl IUaVCLK5bGVRlxTiFRysg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:xJD5u3FNgOU=:eFQkWSCICpsTrro2OYJnQx +Nt8wVGxzOAI9acXWnaUEhYue1tvDSqA47kpVW081ZWOZaJz/BMVn32iSwm+BJzWS5nfWDjsf wj1gJypGrMgQGXjgU6M4/x7sPiMbapgGfIKO253Ttby/Wc+U55XOnaWZMa8GK0Dg7VR03P+35 Uz6gndepEwLr6oCPbsIpyR06RoW/oRFptBtshKDgITQxQShD+MkeiVuonF4Q8cJfIbpIZgLnL wlJrCuwQV0fVqsqToUYzyzZ8XHrxjKOL+BXBpn3Rr9G5snLrlnKqPx5+DGxQIZpD2jY4Tqtrg HNmJe4/qKT0kkEguKPg5z1wUIEWzn2mT89lmQOAf7Zl0ZCiWvrrJBgAS2pzedbf29JfuUTM2i vVU2yBt6imA5JJTIT2HoZSp9j280F9ySJiQCoBOmu+0IG9TJAWAZnOURADQZwpv9H3lm6Dm3P x2akRZo2YxhuJT89pk5gEIQJ2d3NJSWRk+8V7KiJEObYcn7ANBjs5/A+KdoJwTdHGXCdghUpO 7oU9CYedNk3fH9pxSEnwF823X2AvkyIy8Lvz+eSXC80xYN9qTe4wOkRFd7keBDS6Ib5Lu6nrQ 0hst3jv7jg3daOoVQs4Kry2pRU6bn530yET0dOTQU9f8gW4CikKkbY3DEYZnXE30vIWN9dIwV AotZyINBEa5VabmsS9Lhmd2q/pvJ56UV5EWp/v+kyvf75VCu707H8C6qN2lDfgPtoKuinestq b3m3MFCShvPh9uf8oHv7cXhWD/BFFT50obpg+SUVScRLXLC0tPM+pdWUpzF9w7WzoPRfQyI2a 5kIzlZfBtVMx0To8Vkujk1C+19VinXsg2Lamv/DgyFx85WaDqh0q/sI5mFEwY6a7XHP98rpHf ttaTWlH+5fQUtdFQk6Sg== X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) > One other thing: I just checked the actual width of my frame by typing > 80 characters, and it's 80 characters even though xwininfo is > reporting 79. So I think this is either an actual xwininfo bug, or a > minor interaction between emacs and X that causes the character size > of a pixel window to be seen slightly incorrectly. The inherent idea here is that when Emacs comes up with a one-window frame that does not contain a minibuffer window, the sizes specified by 'frame-width' and 'frame-height' match the maximum number of characters on one line and the maximum number of lines that can be displayed in that frame's window. For each and every build of Emacs on every platform and regardless of which other GUI elements are present. So, for example, when you add/remove scrollbars or change the default font of a frame, Emacs usually asks the window manager to change the size of the (window manager) window to keep the number of lines/columns of the frame constant. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 17 03:59:39 2017 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2017 08:59:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44187 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFcUt-0007TF-0f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 03:59:39 -0500 Received: from mallet.cs.hmc.edu ([134.173.42.59]:56086) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFcUq-0007T5-Ir for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 03:59:37 -0500 Received: from bow.cs.hmc.edu (bow-vpn.cs.hmc.edu [10.81.251.5]) by mallet.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7496DC15FC; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 00:59:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by bow.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix, from userid 13409) id AFE526EA0987; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 00:59:34 -0800 (PST) From: Geoff Kuenning To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <5995604A.3050605@gmx.at> <59980B16.1020307@gmx.at> <5A0D54A1.3020307@gmx.at> <5A0EA33D.2080004@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 00:59:34 -0800 In-Reply-To: <5A0EA33D.2080004@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Fri, 17 Nov 2017 09:52:13 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) >> But just to make sure we're talking about the same thing, in >> all of >> these cases emacs is coming up with a correct window size after >> I >> deiconify it. > > I'm not sure I understand the last sentence. Correct in the > sense that > the main window displays 80x78 characters? Yes, that's right. Whenever I refer to "works right" I mean that if I launch with -iconic and then de-iconify, I get a window that's the size I expect. >> Hmmm, though...I just discovered that "emacs -Q --iconic" >> produces a >> different result: it creates an 80x35 frame (79x34 according to >> xwininfo) even when my xrdb contains both an Emacs.geometry of >> 80x78+100+0 and a slightly conflicting gnuemacs.geometry of >> 80x78+1180+0. (I have no clue why I have both!) This implies >> that >> there's something in my .emacs that's relevant. > > You mean there's something in your .emacs that gets you a > different > height: 80/79 without loading .emacs and 35/34 with loading > .emacs? I didn't identify the source of the problem, but yes. BTW, that email was a bit of a stream of consciousness: I was typing it as I was doing experiments and being interrupted over the course of a few hours. > >> area. However, in the process I discovered that there must be >> a race, >> because on a hunch I tried launching twice with no change in my >> .emacs, and once was OK and once produced the narrow window. > > I'm confused now - is the 35/34 above the width or the height of > the > frame? Sorry, bad typing on my part. 35/34 was the height. >> Anyway, I finally got down to the following two lines: >> >> (menu-bar-mode -1) >> (set-default-font (x-get-resource "Font" "")) > >> With both of those present, I get the absurdly narrow frame. >> If I >> remove the first, then I get a frame that's 38x78. If I leave >> the >> first and remove the second, I get a teeny frame that's too >> small to >> type in, but xwininfo reports it as 1x1 (so suppose emacs >> thinks it's >> 2x2). And if I remove both, I get a properly sized frame. >> (This is >> all with my xrdb restored, BTW.) > > Sounds weird. BTW what does evaluating (x-get-resource "Font" > "") > return? I'll give that a shot tomorrow. >> But that's not the strangest part. I cut my .emacs down to >> JUST those >> two lines, and things then worked fine. More testing >> eventually gave me >> the following .emacs file (this is 100% of the contents): >> >> (if nil >> (setq load-path (append >> (mapcar >> '(lambda (value) >> (if (and (stringp value) >> (not (string-match >> "^/usr/local/" value)) >> (string-match "^/usr/" >> value)) >> (replace-match "/usr/local/" t t >> value) >> value)) >> load-path) >> load-path))) >> (menu-bar-mode -1) >> (set-default-font (x-get-resource "Font" "")) >> >> Obviously, the first bit of code doesn't get executed. But if >> I remove >> it, launching in iconic mode works! Having it there makes >> stuff break. >> >> Note that the .emacs above is 532 bytes. Is there an ancient >> 512-byte >> buffer somewhere? I tried replacing the "if nil" part with 512 >> semicolons, but that didn't produce an error. > > We occasionally use(d) a 512 byte limit to search for the > occurrence of > something in a file but I see no connection to your case. > >> Color me confused... > > Maybe the best thing to do at this moment is that you try with a > later > version of Emacs, 25.3 at least. My GNU/Linux machine crashed a > few > years ago and I still did not restore my older Emacs versions > including > that of Emacs 24. Also, on Windows the --iconic switch did not > even > work with Emacs 24, so maybe in this area something has changed > on > GNU/Linux as well. If you upgrade, we could try to synchronize > our > observations better. Note that on GNU/Linux it's already an > enormous > pain to compare the behavior of the same version of Emacs under > two > different window managers. It may not happen until the Christmas break, but I'm sure I can manage to get the latest version installed. It would be wonderful if the bug went away on its own! -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@cs.hmc.edu http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~geoff/ Substitute "damn" every time you're inclined to write "very;" your editor will delete it and the writing will be just as it should be. -- Mark Twain From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 17 04:24:05 2017 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2017 09:24:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44233 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFcsX-00084B-CD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 04:24:05 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:64513) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFcsV-00083e-Lp for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 04:24:04 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([46.125.250.116]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LdLw5-1exj7S1szB-00iPPZ; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:23:55 +0100 Message-ID: <5A0EAAAA.7000402@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:23:54 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Geoff Kuenning Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <5995604A.3050605@gmx.at> <59980B16.1020307@gmx.at> <5A0D54A1.3020307@gmx.at> <5A0EA33D.2080004@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:SBm5CaI8RvWn6+1TzWFcK6TmMVM8nFJFqlj2z91RCx37A0IbY0U DEl1/o0ogbKMECfAbJmuhpBJU+nm8Jbr9B7dzS+HTVmH1pc2QukfMDknTgyFfEdLTcpCgXa dq0FPSoSShjifsyoKkSknTUUFhHEM3xd+udGdu5BesTFrpqmkOk006uIRrE6xl3lmT9Kdig WXnfxpYKBINotyRDEts/w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:BuimPN5WUN8=:nIuqLvwHVKbf2pNiQ+F5vq KZHBIsoXieIXH2KTWDSiIZPzKlacXkEVaV8RtYaKRCDTcRhfDz9t2Uz9k3zpIpcvB60NkvCz0 3CCgnnQg7qcZeKaSld/AfI3E6Cwb5Yt7zCK6qYr6Bi9net7AyTm/uSVvtE3G/FRelGL4lS5Pl dWiC4RETxqcBGNeNGFjzzdqEOyIxnP7aCALbgPL+kDQV3TsTxcIhDP3qxf+mqxsE0IEbHSkCB nRvy0gMUYwnnpNUWbUoHz/XUtcNM6EtjN7yXSaYtv/uXKQoGCKyhXr1GrXakEvhgGuhQwGW5B KxommRl+/q9DMEeV51C0r1Eas7US2KroNvYdOo8/s6c6YZopT+lJMmvC1NWg+tIKJvcwozJH2 kbQ7IfOANsn8Yyj4HR4cQIDHE/UDuGlAzu5G4V1kVeMWNjfGjlyveeW+EIJ//LGKBhZSrs8p1 Kw+0xV3E0iBnhJC0lmYCYpOPIT5O7KTiwaGybHFVu7itlXAwpGfrK1SJTIRx83WmnqaSEidgF nQWmQhqL9Zw0nmFV8wd6ed6Lif+6EQMKOx8IBOTvzvPLvI/m8KZX1+uddieWbb6pSrSuLgFQm FMZfow7q7uIYdm6ml33ar/gwDGhj4agk1XA7R8vsSolTjKI8ZKxppm7826Zv7pfKccuMeytI2 Tq6uuIyMJlhGsxwUFxE7ulh2V5Kn8918PvANEhcfhLGrw/qC4uwrCrG3bkUXD5BOFIiLHi/nY Un9dAya+kfl81fvuvZk1HpS5thnXdJEQ0UW3wy0ICuEnZZDQiqbQ9MIIY4v0Wda4CBk+Irt6O zsCR7P+Z33Kl9zMCLm8gGbtGVQ8b9YlzeMpZ2FcbYXbyZU0CxHyrVii4ej0EViU1WtcYSUc X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > Sorry, bad typing on my part. 35/34 was the height. > >>> Anyway, I finally got down to the following two lines: >>> >>> (menu-bar-mode -1) >>> (set-default-font (x-get-resource "Font" "")) >> >>> With both of those present, I get the absurdly narrow frame. If I >>> remove the first, then I get a frame that's 38x78. If I leave the >>> first and remove the second, I get a teeny frame that's too small to >>> type in, but xwininfo reports it as 1x1 (so suppose emacs thinks it's >>> 2x2). And if I remove both, I get a properly sized frame. (This is >>> all with my xrdb restored, BTW.) So are you getting a weird height, a weird width, independently both or simultaneously both? > It may not happen until the Christmas break, but I'm sure I can manage > to get the latest version installed. This would be currently 26.0.90 which also has a quite extensive set of functions to measure frame sizes and how they developed when starting Emacs. > It would be wonderful if the bug > went away on its own! Do they ever? martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 17 04:31:37 2017 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2017 09:31:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44237 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFczp-0008Fh-4L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 04:31:37 -0500 Received: from mallet.cs.hmc.edu ([134.173.42.59]:56466) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eFczn-0008FZ-He for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 04:31:35 -0500 Received: from bow.cs.hmc.edu (bow-vpn.cs.hmc.edu [10.81.251.5]) by mallet.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9AF9DC13DB; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 01:31:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by bow.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix, from userid 13409) id 745776EA0987; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 01:31:34 -0800 (PST) From: Geoff Kuenning To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <5995604A.3050605@gmx.at> <59980B16.1020307@gmx.at> <5A0D54A1.3020307@gmx.at> <5A0EA33D.2080004@gmx.at> <5A0EAAAA.7000402@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 01:31:34 -0800 In-Reply-To: <5A0EAAAA.7000402@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:23:54 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) >> Sorry, bad typing on my part. 35/34 was the height. >> >>>> Anyway, I finally got down to the following two lines: >>>> >>>> (menu-bar-mode -1) >>>> (set-default-font (x-get-resource "Font" "")) >>> >>>> With both of those present, I get the absurdly narrow >>>> frame. If I >>>> remove the first, then I get a frame that's 38x78. If I >>>> leave the >>>> first and remove the second, I get a teeny frame that's too >>>> small to >>>> type in, but xwininfo reports it as 1x1 (so suppose emacs >>>> thinks it's >>>> 2x2). And if I remove both, I get a properly sized >>>> frame. (This is >>>> all with my xrdb restored, BTW.) > > So are you getting a weird height, a weird width, independently > both or > simultaneously both? Sometimes normal height, tiny width (that's what prompted the original bug report). Sometimes both weird height and weird width. I don't think I've seen a normal width with a weird height but I might be misremembering. >> It would be wonderful if the bug >> went away on its own! > > Do they ever? Heisenbugs! More seriously, not without help from talented developers... -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@cs.hmc.edu http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~geoff/ It's is not, it isn't ain't, and it's it's, not its, if you mean it is. If you don't, it's its. Then too, it's hers. It isn't her's. It isn't our's either. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Geoff Kuenning writes: > In 24.3.1, starting emacs with the "-iconic" switch causes the main > emacs window to be sized to the width of the icon rather than the width > specified in the X resource database. Interestingly, t [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Geoff Kuenning writes: > In 24.3.1, starting emacs with the "-iconic" switch causes the main > emacs window to be sized to the width of the icon rather than the width > specified in the X resource database. Interestingly, the height is > still correct. Compare the window created by: > > $ emacs & > > with the one from: > > $ emacs -iconic & (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved at the time.) I tried reproducing this on Debian/bullseye with Gnome Shell, and I didn't see any differences in the frame sizes here, but perhaps it's dependent on the window manager. Are you still seeing this problem in recent Emacs versions? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 21 10:32:32 2022 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2022 15:32:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38645 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMAfw-0006db-G5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 10:32:32 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:40012) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMAfv-0006dB-08 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 10:32:31 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=prF1+VLgNWm/TAsLurQOj91SxKXvvhIto+HTnOV1QnM=; b=h/wU9eLS/7q1FHQrepBQ+LRLvz kvwWtPrqNzo4Yc5iWfEnKi/T9n329QDMc3Pbv8My/rCaarBG5jhJi6eT4wpLg4zo0vACVk56ZDb0w /isFwP5s7+KrV69p8Vh5Y3BcaiiYGZx0BKDiTgQYjCMqC808wAiWAETEPkGzvk1FVr3Q=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nMAfm-0000Ux-MJ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 16:32:25 +0100 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 16:32:22 +0100 Message-Id: <87wnhogrqx.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #27923 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 27923 + moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 27923 + moreinfo quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 21 17:53:52 2022 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2022 22:53:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39376 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMHZ2-0004r2-Hp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:53:52 -0500 Received: from mallet.cs.hmc.edu ([134.173.42.59]:59352) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMHZ0-0004qs-Rl for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:53:51 -0500 Received: from bow.cs.hmc.edu (bow-vpn.cs.hmc.edu [10.81.251.5]) by mallet.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C6BDC03D2; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 14:53:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by bow.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix, from userid 13409) id 5D4E3B3C0AC5; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 14:53:48 -0800 (PST) From: Geoff Kuenning To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <87y224grr6.fsf@gnus.org> User-Mail-Address: geoff@cs.hmc.edu Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 14:53:48 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87y224grr6.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 21 Feb 2022 16:32:13 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Well...yes and no. The "absurdly narrow" problem is gone. But if I start emacs with -iconic, the window *height* is now off (it's slightly too tall, by 1-2 lines, so that it goes off the screen since I use a full-height window). Without -iconic it is correctly sized for my screen. FWIW I use the sawfish window manager (because it's programmable via lisp...perhaps there are other emacs users who like lisp? *grin*). > Geoff Kuenning writes: > >> In 24.3.1, starting emacs with the "-iconic" switch causes the >> main >> emacs window to be sized to the width of the icon rather than >> the width >> specified in the X resource database. Interestingly, the >> height is >> still correct. Compare the window created by: >> >> $ emacs & >> >> with the one from: >> >> $ emacs -iconic & > > (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't > resolved > at the time.) > > I tried reproducing this on Debian/bullseye with Gnome Shell, > and I > didn't see any differences in the frame sizes here, but perhaps > it's > dependent on the window manager. > > Are you still seeing this problem in recent Emacs versions? > > -- > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no > -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@cs.hmc.edu http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~geoff/ One could not be a successful scientist without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of scientists, a goodly number of scientists are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. -- James Watson From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 21 20:46:20 2022 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2022 01:46:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39565 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMKFs-0004Ez-TU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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The "absurdly narrow" problem is gone. But if I > start emacs with -iconic, the window *height* is now off (it's > slightly too tall, by 1-2 lines, so that it goes off the screen since > I use a full-height window). Without -iconic it is correctly sized > for my screen. What happens if you put (setq frame-resize-pixelwise t) In your early-init.el file? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 22 08:25:05 2022 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2022 13:25:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40303 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMVA8-0004mx-TO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:25:05 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51178) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMVA5-0004mI-AM for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:25:04 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=YwWgA6cg+L59W0s3eT0pi0m70+SdZoKGWO9uN5yriIE=; b=I5taiaonUxegAZUqCwi5UouCPJ 8KPo+m9MtXt1qZBJLv1Vx8PaRomp6jFXd2gLh7fl5AtV30ju8kUktTfGQgMg/Fetr+ixKSID8Er0U fAdokvDB9FCgWWXlGh8B2NRFFfCYTITmyCPCuNDnURZZmajmSoKeyHKURgEQMdeT9wuM=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nMV9w-0005eg-Ac; Tue, 22 Feb 2022 14:24:55 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Geoff Kuenning Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <87y224grr6.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAGFBMVEW0pIzo07P34L34 5MTbyKqXindUS0T/////d/kTAAAAAWJLR0QHFmGI6wAAAAd0SU1FB+YCFg0LO1lcqqAAAAG7SURB VDjLdZRBcsMwCEU900n3EC5gJSewcwFcpets5HU39v2P0A9IcpO2rCQ9IfiAPQyciFNK84sNBtJv mwy8Gk4u/wJ7irpJbuYxsFXfLfcCG4ZTKfPkQAAkK9+3vazlUTrAqZDK8rm7raVMBgivKBzy+fQe ZG8euG0+yTxWAw8Ho8JBkNQBwmOMXDWAoy8Dy9hkcA2+79szONfY675NB5AD7AF0VJybwEsFWwNZ 1WpCfELcreyleLoBoCNzL6KiiA88BSGolyZovObMzDP6AVCviXXm6g5pNkBZqw4ApMg8cjxFrYnS pTroDWTxnqlUkKODECJqLVNU7fYBYNeQFe7hOHzT7S2A3UdDKABjSOYG/KlRKJbnBsinoSsnvgRA c+2tBlCDmpV68Lw0kJeWruVrAiqg86UBzImXOEIIHx4meqFY0qHcVIjGFKNEPTicLUiddgzS8ZSo V8pzRXE8eE0KUsjmHksKgTV1+IRAIHyU+HBiQ7aXkJOtcQE8T0qSYy5kacDCWz96PIBHrTkqvgD6 YzYvFfjWdYRXA+oTkTDaUj+VAHZoM/XzL2CgztqzGdA/AD979P8Q8TcQI9y9ApBXFwAAACV0RVh0 ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMi0wMi0yMlQxMzoxMTo1OSswMDowMNYVbtYAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9k aWZ5ADIwMjItMDItMjJUMTM6MTE6NTkrMDA6MDCnSNZqAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Richard 'Rabbit' Brown's _Anthology of American Folk Music: Songs (1)_: "James Alley Blues" Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 14:24:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Geoff Kuenning's message of "Mon, 21 Feb 2022 14:53:48 -0800") Message-ID: <87bkyzc9uk.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Geoff Kuenning writes: > Well...yes and no. The "absurdly narrow" problem is gone. But if I > start emacs with -iconic, the window *height* is now off (it's > slightly too tall, by 1-2 lines, so that it goes off the screen [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Geoff Kuenning writes: > Well...yes and no. The "absurdly narrow" problem is gone. 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Must be a window manager interaction thing -- with Gnome Shell the size of the frame is identical whether I start with -iconic or not. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 23 04:28:51 2022 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2022 09:28:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43806 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMnx5-0005ca-CF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2022 04:28:51 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:38399) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMnx3-0005cF-Uo for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2022 04:28:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1645608521; bh=RJiTAV2q1+RLdJvnqJWpzyG9ix2PEXF3WFqAduFmMho=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=irUfoSCeXUUGR9Pk+nPT36GREPW5qS46kEVfEfCwNk0Mb0inQXPj8bSOmpsOkB6Y2 Ud+QXIoS30lqgGCgd4aN2O5qBMIb3l1K09FWfe1y/JSg179bbGsQZjXFLxl5h1FXYg 5rUmlqq6H4sh27BGjlMxp9XnWuFuc1U7L5KnivJE= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([213.142.97.235]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MwfWU-1oBiXz1WUU-00y68L; Wed, 23 Feb 2022 10:28:41 +0100 Message-ID: <56241bad-fe75-0238-8b56-53b4fee53a1d@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 10:28:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry Content-Language: en-US To: Geoff Kuenning , Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87y224grr6.fsf@gnus.org> From: martin rudalics In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:3vgLWaZrFzM0SR4hRRfiy9HwOUBnrPl2Xrph6PmYtUviLQDERLf bqcNOk+GixPy2ppMdbBtcCzLj3B0cZcTyxCOA2sQkG2vVFgnmQ1hyQQcLLmLQGr2vgtldXP M4K1ii2oDaQlCFP4t408M/QlHo3EPgY1vRaD2dHSzdn1fFCK5/ghakdc2lyIk+Q9J5Lx1sB 0u5FNyk9GeTUfbQrfNe0w== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:VXiQ71zil1U=:MFV6Ll131hCb0qs/BN5kEr 5mSRnoEWzVOD2aluoiyCY/+mFZT+nS9vEMlh8a4clbcX0L9/F8PYFGwwgYFqS3Mci+xmwJIVs YIWkJ3vW1C3Ih8StX47M4svCtRqU83OKvHC/aHRu/x3pJObDGWfIODCZy2CAwVcb7Sj4tTodX lbL9vuG8jTR6bEvCk6aG99q0EUGutBQ5tUb9X7yTmOsjHWgR+TDNv35B5UYcMf0xa/0PLCQa7 wec4MC9FKclD9OnnvUHa/RMm4ejpUJaftS8MkooXf34V5JQGfAcHWSxduTVMrX5tETCdzDyNS laeyatPIsYTI5S6VcCxuJjdQqADwp2OWZaoXJWwoP72qcVpZjSqjb5UvWAOsCO5/dvhqkG1N3 wFcsYIlAOvHB7tgol4c7ujsUOSder6GgOCvCtKobUY6IJ+9HA9P6i1GsQsHvJJmOd/isye4EV MCSQmXGOT/GStacTo5TmSV5GxJvS6L5/DWO0U5H/9UJ5tLibvXNS7Y6zVaOdjpTJh7cjjEvhU 2n2MPEFxfQ44jCsvNTDZaBF8bvIdZD4mG9DJn64kDVdeI8/e7quRqycfAemkTZkVlHqB8Ve98 vFm1y3iqwzRcfwAeD86uhM7kUOx/DYNUsNe83XOymjhwUT52aRBaJ51dMYfEdLE9a/wHcZKxx VqRwku+mRM1H/riWX2KEa97xnkgDVcZSSmvOAJ0K0BV+6Qe3I45QrfWZI4PVrBGPBR7W3WwA4 vpSWJDHVDjGpo4Ulb6v4z/ERRYmcR+qkDBNAPaCTFYhAGCE6P7agznp+w+SfH4vxGswxfQtAz oKjpvOIs3cU+7RkuHfEwmsbKZW2/Bz2806wJNRColMgAzVqlKbv1sMmFEuzq6S11kEG/sJRsn MknMPk12I4jrE8+qc8451ZFg5pXe0h770sb6/vU/ar2rQ0WjCsu8H2WijfRAUlMZBbmPk6LII kbyLI/4ZnvJ2cQwPX5f/PAiFMGvnpe54+zyfIi9HUly52L+ctgXT7MQV7VfrNBswo2vXFIROK so65/Ns8DfiH/NEwzXhPib4BmGAPjKybqLudfdKjX8M5icmAaGgkOjKbpHIi6BMoK6/VSndSA 6U07HEgrVRDCDs= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Well...yes and no. The "absurdly narrow" problem is gone. But if I > start emacs with -iconic, the window *height* is now off (it's > slightly too tall, by 1-2 lines, so that it goes off the screen since > I use a full-height window). Without -iconic it is correctly sized > for my screen. In which Emacs version do you see this? martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 23 17:17:53 2022 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2022 22:17:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46763 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMzxI-0008D8-Pk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2022 17:17:52 -0500 Received: from mallet.cs.hmc.edu ([134.173.42.59]:36044) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMzxG-0008Cy-EU for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2022 17:17:50 -0500 Received: from bow.cs.hmc.edu (bow-vpn.cs.hmc.edu [10.81.251.5]) by mallet.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21531DC057E; Wed, 23 Feb 2022 14:17:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by bow.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix, from userid 13409) id EDD6CB3C0614; Wed, 23 Feb 2022 14:17:47 -0800 (PST) From: Geoff Kuenning To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <87y224grr6.fsf@gnus.org> <56241bad-fe75-0238-8b56-53b4fee53a1d@gmx.at> User-Mail-Address: geoff@cs.hmc.edu Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 14:17:47 -0800 In-Reply-To: <56241bad-fe75-0238-8b56-53b4fee53a1d@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Wed, 23 Feb 2022 10:28:38 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) I'm running 25.3.1. >> Well...yes and no. The "absurdly narrow" problem is gone. But >> if I >> start emacs with -iconic, the window *height* is now off (it's >> slightly too tall, by 1-2 lines, so that it goes off the screen >> since >> I use a full-height window). Without -iconic it is correctly >> sized >> for my screen. > > In which Emacs version do you see this? > > martin > -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@cs.hmc.edu http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~geoff/ If it's visually ugly, it's almost certainly a bad design. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 24 04:16:17 2022 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2022 09:16:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47503 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nNAET-00014g-DB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2022 04:16:17 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:43404) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nNAES-00014T-2Q for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2022 04:16:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=6xzDb/oN+s5YJU9tyeE+2/riHGRNxVJ5A6JxiXUYCE4=; b=HIATy+n0tL0YdsdeYr3+lEAAKp EqpXv1I1BrKIwXsJVarxu+nUi8i7pvuS/Vo6447SnCnCm46O/cbM/mGHUs8jhEj+BsS0aOwqXvKkz rmyfm/nPIXFuL0wEy+B0DNnyTb20rWptw//DHj7jUYzK1SIH7dIldbNcMSgYCwhjcbsk=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nNAEJ-0003pD-1O; Thu, 24 Feb 2022 10:16:09 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Geoff Kuenning Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <87y224grr6.fsf@gnus.org> <56241bad-fe75-0238-8b56-53b4fee53a1d@gmx.at> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEWJgHTa2NZIQTr/ ///FtiXEAAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+YCGAg1E8s4rP8AAAF7SURBVCjPfdDBThsxEAbg 2Sitqj1FUYxETyQHlPopXJQg2NMW7aCyp4AaKexTOFWMopx6SDivo1KZ/yk7dlALF+b2ee3Z+YcU /y9KmDJPuGLqeznxhqQEoTzuDAVdOeztzf3H4SJ+UdTzk6fT7BYI+Y767eTkzs2w9xEI2X65EDQR yEbLBnjWggDq+DvBhZL/jC38TBpI6z5aq/1cAwlBMD17AdbwfJ6uHVlS0zdTv4Xpfn/GTmDUWDX2 PggG/KM3ck220BF+/mu0NHQS8RhmYxoWCBBsoT9ZAQ4o1lYVOk/INOyuGFYH5HrzVDiG5NnaPja+ HrCW2Ns95RtfXnOTO3pA0PDfrrhOkPKXzFWpaGXp3+TkXkc4oByk9bopV8QlZC8CkrdcBrRBxWuy AgF6CV+Z68/487iLkM4XV1h1IyrxZY3VwEX4Od+c4bd2MkGHMjZUtxDIaGs2WY0E6RoKmye00Btb x9kFEgdfBD/tB3LWmPcivIaEkZf4C95g2gEFswnBAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIyLTAy LTI0VDA4OjUzOjE5KzAwOjAwzyT0ogAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMi0wMi0yNFQwODo1 MzoxOSswMDowML55TB4AAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Bobbie Gentry's _The Girl From Chickasaw County (6): Fancy_: "Fancy (Mono Radio Edit)" Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 10:16:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Geoff Kuenning's message of "Wed, 23 Feb 2022 14:17:47 -0800") Message-ID: <87bkyw4obt.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Geoff Kuenning writes: > I'm running 25.3.1. Could you test with a recent Emacs version instead? Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org, martin rudalics X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Geoff Kuenning writes: > I'm running 25.3.1. Could you test with a recent Emacs version instead? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 24 04:19:56 2022 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2022 09:19:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47525 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nNAI0-0001At-ID for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2022 04:19:56 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:59977) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nNAHz-0001AY-CV for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2022 04:19:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1645694387; bh=tJ3r22EfvXGJgxUi1reag9Oy/5swZOaqzPUNNTC97Sk=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=ZE4aUMSS5vARi/bL8YgYOmO3BXLwDGB+clsfhnukHHr80SN+pCHtGL6Xx5p0KxpxH vqc/pvmoe9oiy0/Afv7ZmAhyz8kB9lBWmJHTyMqMxwFgDfZ+lQ6NGREFwIMu2+GvtR kzKSN61h9bRU0K8UVLHstDdRxaJ0GVviChj+IX3o= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([212.95.5.227]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MAfYm-1nYBpr1sDo-00B3tQ; Thu, 24 Feb 2022 10:19:47 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 10:19:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry Content-Language: en-US To: Geoff Kuenning References: <87y224grr6.fsf@gnus.org> <56241bad-fe75-0238-8b56-53b4fee53a1d@gmx.at> From: martin rudalics In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ovDOruY5qO0ZG4z8kh1sjE9CuYoW3BxLKXinFkFxOAnFsb8aqk6 swKjr9Xi2EjxWI1lAlJgzaq3Z+kJE5LIylRffB3cBHyQYya2+GcfbO+thqSOzHLr61/7WJq jU8NJ2WePpnEy5Hh1j3LYRJ0DxaJ7SxiFgxNFGFn6wzAClnlB0OMY98dW+hYeJ0VWZvFgOH hYu2MIfGKqUxVCVhyxOzg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:MqoDObXXq4c=:UHcyUQ+yDCUFLETby9yjvI mFuz3NU1n3s9DWRgTQz/q7JANwnIZJeDXtZqojgRsjz7TIwzrJHL1GWldeEKt3RxXQCkDGyk+ pARpvSkIsHXe2vBDEDeDX967NonL8m/7sgpBHj7JlJm848QS9/lCChit50dRovGA5kRIXxX+4 4nn7FuSQ0JQrRGbp9544ik564W1t1sv8ByQQ9GOfiMEaYmEIMtlmck6ksLfEKpo3pl1qqfD7g TxVtdA0KHAfl5V7zJbJ4X5AWMftiLnebb2BJ68g94ZiQOXNqIqRo9U2Yqjt7hyvtRz8ycHJ8t FZfrW2eqp+RVie2o5iSZUSyzt5N7c9FBbCO9rat5Qoteh30TaWKOnhQyhlsnMHzuHrH6jMwbf 1BnuMxCxXcwn6ZRvbNKwfetZ34d9+7bn1MnKT953Yqn7ODIn5wekP7QReMNeK8hUgU7M+Yn5Z PsiFywcC6qPb4ltaBfpxwhvGyjSCFOey1IYaiiZFoxPgefEiJyH+jslhgLOdG+oHV0NS5sGJX /Nr5Mz9fEXIa+ju+B2EmtNSmY/iMgsFHqHVh52gnGCw36s379TAjae5kWJoz29nWUtEOjdWV9 fhTyk/mJmeWwGP57xkc/xTFluTMiJWWc1ZCukvdNsxOw2th5fda9Ei3bi2wxm38uHv6BIsp8g /NjUtEq6/E0O5oOGErQ3jTmiHgb5WGwuIDF+dHJyoOjuU4hGvdX8mqXNIlnjL6i0osKuIZzld 9lvHRoa1ZyCLESr+rbGRe1SlQ2m8kaGnWZb5osdO/sNMI/+0r686QgUae1nAuSRtSBq7z5x86 ALMenRkHRgiXstlHSFa2XlcRWNaTZwkZn2tq/6A8pktK9kekCFGv1MdXZncUxmMuJKe/bx8kL yTL3Cptx6JBEYFcStXEau+ex5R5aF3OK7IPGITiIGsYxw1CUYcybvt04ONW1NCdyr5Yp/F54O 9auTPEOJ+e62l2H4O6ILWePG+ymHwAxucJo2dfI7jUcWg3usnkjK6YYXZSlnTA85+Bd+dlws+ R5XJpW+J2Mns/azGmCTxEkv0/Hh6BQyitxiKkX66TYlAdwckMXJX6kqZsovOen6p7FK0h7mZi safux9R7Oj9elE= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > I'm running 25.3.1. > >>> Well...yes and no. The "absurdly narrow" problem is gone. But if I >>> start emacs with -iconic, the window *height* is now off (it's >>> slightly too tall, by 1-2 lines, so that it goes off the screen since >>> I use a full-height window). Without -iconic it is correctly sized >>> for my screen. >> >> In which Emacs version do you see this? We tried to fix that in what will become Emacs 28.1. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 24 12:55:23 2022 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2022 17:55:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50334 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nNIKo-00059Y-T0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2022 12:55:23 -0500 Received: from mallet.cs.hmc.edu ([134.173.42.59]:33082) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nNIKm-00059P-VK for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2022 12:55:21 -0500 Received: from bow.cs.hmc.edu (bow-vpn.cs.hmc.edu [10.81.251.5]) by mallet.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672A7DC0094; Thu, 24 Feb 2022 09:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by bow.cs.hmc.edu (Postfix, from userid 13409) id 58722B3C0AC5; Thu, 24 Feb 2022 09:55:19 -0800 (PST) From: Geoff Kuenning To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <87y224grr6.fsf@gnus.org> <56241bad-fe75-0238-8b56-53b4fee53a1d@gmx.at> <87bkyw4obt.fsf@gnus.org> User-Mail-Address: geoff@cs.hmc.edu Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 09:55:19 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87bkyw4obt.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 24 Feb 2022 10:16:06 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27923 Cc: 27923@debbugs.gnu.org, martin rudalics X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >From Lars: > Could you test with a recent Emacs version instead? Unfortunately that would be pretty painful; an emacs installation has enough complex dependencies that replacing my distro's version would be risky. I don't think I have the time right now to do that. >From Martin: > We tried to fix that in what will become Emacs 28.1. In that case, and given that it seems to work for you, I think it might be best to just close this old bug report as "cannot reproduce". It's a small problem at worst and probably not worth spending a lot of your time chasing it when it might already be fixed. -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@cs.hmc.edu http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~geoff/ The "M" in XML stands for _markup_. If you don't have anything outside the angle brackets, you probably shouldn't be using XML. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 24 13:07:19 2022 Received: (at 27923) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2022 18:07:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50352 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nNIWM-0005T5-OP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2022 13:07:18 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48384) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nNIWL-0005Sn-A7 for 27923@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2022 13:07:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Hh6fmKlC9uL3HfOqkO1e6U1rOSS6Hntc/J3aR82cGO0=; b=UwimGimhdkmY3BLsUiW+ppl1nE 8rkM8X74n7GbcTytzO+H3gZLz4msnMdFWTxne5MSXbNdCZLhnDOM/Np6MshY8kk2k2Y7447OWNs4E CbdY/arNcNG8WNRkfDhtsEcC6dlW1SHEV3MSOxDb/SQuAz2VL2sSs3hJ/7rG/vvfR2tQ=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nNIWC-0000OJ-5s; Thu, 24 Feb 2022 19:07:10 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Geoff Kuenning Subject: Re: bug#27923: 24.3; -iconic switch screws up geometry References: <87y224grr6.fsf@gnus.org> <56241bad-fe75-0238-8b56-53b4fee53a1d@gmx.at> <87bkyw4obt.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAG1BMVEWYi3bcy67p1bPf zK5fVk1KQjyEeWpDPDb///9hueWkAAAAAWJLR0QIht6VegAAAAd0SU1FB+YCGA4vFZb7j6MAAAGq SURBVDjLrZRbTsMwEEUDiviOmQ1QewXj2QCPOPyCGpMNVKygabfPnbEdgVq+wFKiyMd33k5346+v 7hew+yMIzhZJAU6YhEUoDv1Y1pMBwZ4TIO8APvCkDcCKmhoM3DVFUOAbmPvpGxAnjpz6mOd+bgD2 hYP66BS442F6qYoY4SJEgDnlm9yPFcStPgoel+kKGFNejmv/Xk1tYEwp59OY3n8qQprGDMUF8IdP BWu+BCgTbOWlgtBAQuIAH4f9z7IHhJTzOT8NlyArehta5kIiUXbhFSDP+VQUkbBpqwCgVAFJBYvt r8u63ynQ6mprOZTzeF4eFLBoRyAz5+benEMRqqmk9tGnZEAHwQgDzMgxTa/PBlg252M+r+NyXPZF oVPFpK3FutPXbQPwDZ0X8uy4jShZHo7JiszItgFXBrRMl4RtqMkSxGTpPG5driCqgL2NuqoN4JuC lpE9ObjiGLkBNaU+2Vkg2utd1wHo+WghCXM5U0ApL+sVUrYBuzV6S8o+UwOtVr59xG+mgloupbQb VkwRgie53xSQGEDkejL4WAQBZxTQ9R/A/4EvkUS/H2sl77AAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIw MjItMDItMjRUMTQ6NDc6MjErMDA6MDC9lJoRAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIyLTAyLTI0 VDE0OjQ3OjIxKzAwOjAwzMkirQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Delma Lachney and Blind Uncle Gaspard's _Anthology of American Folk Music: Social Music (1)_: "La Danseuse" Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 19:07:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Geoff Kuenning's message of "Thu, 24 Feb 2022 09:55:19 -0800") Message-ID: <87o82w16lw.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Geoff Kuenning writes: > In that case, and given that it seems to work for you, I think it > might be best to just close this old bug report as "cannot reproduce". OK; closing this bug report, then. 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