From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:55:59 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#27627: 25.1; M VC RET doesn't give access to the VC manual Resent-From: Juliusz Chroboczek Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 20:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 27627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 27627@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.149954602432467 (code B ref -1); Sat, 08 Jul 2017 20:34:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jul 2017 20:33:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58188 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dTwQB-0008Rb-OJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:33:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34221) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dTve3-0007Hu-9t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:43:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTvdx-0000ln-7Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:43:53 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:59337) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTvdx-0000lj-3q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:43:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53425) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTvdw-0005Ix-54 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:43:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTvds-0000lA-Se for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:43:52 -0400 Received: from korolev.univ-paris7.fr ([194.254.61.138]:53386) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTvds-0000ku-Ig for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:43:48 -0400 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [81.194.30.253]) by korolev.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay1/56228) with ESMTP id v68JRRQD013239 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2017 21:27:28 +0200 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62781EB2F8 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2017 21:27:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at math.univ-paris-diderot.fr Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id sv24tjai--WT for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2017 21:27:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from trurl.irif.fr (unknown [78.194.40.74]) (Authenticated sender: jch) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 53A7DEB2F0 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2017 21:27:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 21:27:25 +0200 Message-ID: <871spqlof6.wl-jch@irif.fr> From: Juliusz Chroboczek User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [194.254.61.138]); Sat, 08 Jul 2017 21:27:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at korolev with ID 5961321F.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 5961321F.001 from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/null/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 5961321F.001 on korolev.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:33:42 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) Very minor issue, but one I constantly get bitten by. Typing M-x info Emacs RET m VC RET doesn't give access to the VC manual. You have to do M-x info Emacs RET m Vers RET I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in thinking of VC as VC, not as "Version Control". Thanks, -- Juliusz From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:55:59 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#27627: 25.1; M VC RET doesn't give access to the VC manual Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 02:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Juliusz Chroboczek Cc: 27627@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 27627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27627.149956751219361 (code B ref 27627); Sun, 09 Jul 2017 02:32:02 +0000 Received: (at 27627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2017 02:31:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58284 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dU20m-00052C-Cg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 22:31:52 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42528) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dU20k-00051z-HN for 27627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 22:31:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dU20a-00022u-AI for 27627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 22:31:45 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47994) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dU20a-00022q-6c; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 22:31:40 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2891 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dU20Z-0006xI-IG; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 22:31:39 -0400 Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 05:31:31 +0300 Message-Id: <83shi6jq7w.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <871spqlof6.wl-jch@irif.fr> (message from Juliusz Chroboczek on Sat, 08 Jul 2017 21:27:25 +0200) References: <871spqlof6.wl-jch@irif.fr> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 21:27:25 +0200 > From: Juliusz Chroboczek > > Typing > > M-x info Emacs RET m VC RET > > doesn't give access to the VC manual. You have to do > > M-x info Emacs RET m Vers RET > > I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in thinking of VC as VC, not as "Version > Control". Try M-x info Emacs RET i VC TAB From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:55:59 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#27627: 25.1; M VC RET doesn't give access to the VC manual Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 14:12:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Juliusz Chroboczek Cc: 27627@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 27627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27627.149960947130830 (code B ref 27627); Sun, 09 Jul 2017 14:12:01 +0000 Received: (at 27627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2017 14:11:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58984 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dUCvX-00081C-3K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 10:11:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43526) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dUCvV-00080w-93 for 27627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 10:11:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUCvN-000228-3d for 27627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 10:11:04 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53133) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUCvN-000221-11; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 10:11:01 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3106 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dUCvM-00024C-Bd; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 10:11:00 -0400 Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 17:10:53 +0300 Message-Id: <83pod9k8eq.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87podarkux.wl-jch@irif.fr> (message from Juliusz Chroboczek on Sun, 09 Jul 2017 12:00:06 +0200) References: <871spqlof6.wl-jch@irif.fr> <83shi6jq7w.fsf@gnu.org> <87podarkux.wl-jch@irif.fr> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 12:00:06 +0200 > From: Juliusz Chroboczek > CC: 27627@debbugs.gnu.org > > > M-x info Emacs RET i VC TAB > > This sends me to "vc-annotate", which is better but still not the expected > result. I think you pressed RET instead of TAB. From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:55:59 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#27627: 25.1; M VC RET doesn't give access to the VC manual Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 14:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Juliusz Chroboczek Cc: 27627@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 27627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27627.14996118331987 (code B ref 27627); Sun, 09 Jul 2017 14:51:01 +0000 Received: (at 27627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2017 14:50:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59003 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dUDXb-0000Vy-VM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 10:50:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57146) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dUDXZ-0000Vl-Bp for 27627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 10:50:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUDXQ-0006Sa-9n for 27627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 10:50:24 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53615) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUDXQ-0006SN-65; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 10:50:20 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3136 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dUDXP-0002HW-AK; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 10:50:19 -0400 Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 17:50:13 +0300 Message-Id: <83inj1k6l6.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <877ezhsmq1.wl-jch@irif.fr> (message from Juliusz Chroboczek on Sun, 09 Jul 2017 16:34:30 +0200) References: <871spqlof6.wl-jch@irif.fr> <83shi6jq7w.fsf@gnu.org> <87podarkux.wl-jch@irif.fr> <83pod9k8eq.fsf@gnu.org> <877ezhsmq1.wl-jch@irif.fr> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 16:34:30 +0200 > From: Juliusz Chroboczek > > >> This sends me to "vc-annotate", which is better but still not the expected > >> result. > > > I think you pressed RET instead of TAB. > > Yes, I did. TAB gives me a large list of completions, which reminds me to > type « Version Control » instead. It bites me every time. There are a few items in the list that begin with "VC". > Eli, is it possible to add a synonym to a menu entry in Info? No. In any case, the usual recommended way of looking up something in an Info manual is by using Info-index ('i'), not by using menus. So I just added an index entry to the manual; now you can type "i VC RET" (with "VC" in upper-case) and get yourself landed where you wanted. If this is sufficient, we can close this bug report. From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:55:59 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Juliusz Chroboczek Subject: bug#27627: closed (Re: bug#27627: 25.1; M VC RET doesn't give access to the VC manual) Message-ID: References: <83fue5k1yw.fsf@gnu.org> <871spqlof6.wl-jch@irif.fr> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 27627 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 27627@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 16:31:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1499617862-10650-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1499617862-10650-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #27627: 25.1; M VC RET doesn't give access to the VC manual which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 27627@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 27627: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D27627 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1499617862-10650-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 27627-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2017 16:30:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59045 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dUF6A-0002kt-65 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 12:30:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36605) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dUF68-0002kg-CD for 27627-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 12:30:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUF60-0007om-4N for 27627-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 12:30:11 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54586) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUF60-0007ob-2E; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 12:30:08 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3176 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dUF5z-0007tz-6o; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 12:30:07 -0400 Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 19:29:59 +0300 Message-Id: <83fue5k1yw.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Juliusz Chroboczek In-reply-to: <8737a5skpm.wl-jch@irif.fr> (message from Juliusz Chroboczek on Sun, 09 Jul 2017 17:17:57 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#27627: 25.1; M VC RET doesn't give access to the VC manual References: <871spqlof6.wl-jch@irif.fr> <83shi6jq7w.fsf@gnu.org> <87podarkux.wl-jch@irif.fr> <83pod9k8eq.fsf@gnu.org> <877ezhsmq1.wl-jch@irif.fr> <83inj1k6l6.fsf@gnu.org> <8737a5skpm.wl-jch@irif.fr> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27627-done Cc: 27627-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 17:17:57 +0200 > From: Juliusz Chroboczek > Cc: 27627@debbugs.gnu.org > > > In any case, the usual recommended way of looking up something in an > > Info manual is by using Info-index ('i') > > I'll try to correct my bad habits, then. ;-) > > If this is sufficient, we can close this bug report. > > Ok. Thanks, closing. ------------=_1499617862-10650-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jul 2017 20:33:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58188 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dTwQB-0008Rb-OJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:33:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34221) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dTve3-0007Hu-9t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:43:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTvdx-0000ln-7Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:43:53 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:59337) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTvdx-0000lj-3q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:43:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53425) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTvdw-0005Ix-54 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:43:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTvds-0000lA-Se for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:43:52 -0400 Received: from korolev.univ-paris7.fr ([194.254.61.138]:53386) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTvds-0000ku-Ig for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:43:48 -0400 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [81.194.30.253]) by korolev.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay1/56228) with ESMTP id v68JRRQD013239 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2017 21:27:28 +0200 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62781EB2F8 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2017 21:27:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at math.univ-paris-diderot.fr Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id sv24tjai--WT for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2017 21:27:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from trurl.irif.fr (unknown [78.194.40.74]) (Authenticated sender: jch) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 53A7DEB2F0 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2017 21:27:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 21:27:25 +0200 Message-ID: <871spqlof6.wl-jch@irif.fr> From: Juliusz Chroboczek To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.1; M VC RET doesn't give access to the VC manual User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [194.254.61.138]); Sat, 08 Jul 2017 21:27:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at korolev with ID 5961321F.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 5961321F.001 from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/null/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 5961321F.001 on korolev.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 16:33:42 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) Very minor issue, but one I constantly get bitten by. Typing M-x info Emacs RET m VC RET doesn't give access to the VC manual. You have to do M-x info Emacs RET m Vers RET I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in thinking of VC as VC, not as "Version Control". Thanks, -- Juliusz ------------=_1499617862-10650-1-- From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:55:59 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#27627: 25.1; M VC RET doesn't give access to the VC manual Resent-From: Juliusz Chroboczek Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 16:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 27627@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 27627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27627.149961846311509 (code B ref 27627); Sun, 09 Jul 2017 16:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 27627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2017 16:41:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59051 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dUFGZ-0002zZ-9k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 12:41:03 -0400 Received: from korolev.univ-paris7.fr ([194.254.61.138]:46816) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dU90e-0000IQ-Ti for 27627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 06:00:13 -0400 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [81.194.30.253]) by korolev.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay1/56228) with ESMTP id v69A07uC012797; Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:00:08 +0200 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94630EB2CC; Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:00:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at math.univ-paris-diderot.fr Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id rmJfckRit0H8; Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:00:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from trurl.irif.fr (unknown [78.194.40.74]) (Authenticated sender: jch) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 824D1EB274; Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:00:06 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 12:00:06 +0200 Message-ID: <87podarkux.wl-jch@irif.fr> From: Juliusz Chroboczek In-Reply-To: <83shi6jq7w.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871spqlof6.wl-jch@irif.fr> <83shi6jq7w.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [194.254.61.138]); Sun, 09 Jul 2017 12:00:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at korolev with ID 5961FEA7.004 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 5961FEA7.004 from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/null/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 5961FEA7.004 on korolev.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 12:41:01 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > M-x info Emacs RET i VC TAB This sends me to "vc-annotate", which is better but still not the expected result. -- Juliusz From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:55:59 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#27627: 25.1; M VC RET doesn't give access to the VC manual Resent-From: Juliusz Chroboczek Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 16:42:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 27627@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 27627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27627.149961848311537 (code B ref 27627); Sun, 09 Jul 2017 16:42:03 +0000 Received: (at 27627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2017 16:41:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59053 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dUFGs-000301-Nj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 12:41:22 -0400 Received: from korolev.univ-paris7.fr ([194.254.61.138]:59794) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dUDyI-00018l-Uc for 27627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Jul 2017 11:18:07 -0400 Received: from potemkin.univ-paris7.fr (potemkin.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:1]) by korolev.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay1/56228) with ESMTP id v69FI0Zg014279 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 9 Jul 2017 17:18:00 +0200 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [81.194.30.253]) by potemkin.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay2/56228) with ESMTP id v69FHw3r011762; Sun, 9 Jul 2017 17:18:00 +0200 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD09EB2D0; Sun, 9 Jul 2017 17:17:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at math.univ-paris-diderot.fr Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id WO4vDvs7PccZ; Sun, 9 Jul 2017 17:17:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from trurl.irif.fr (unknown [78.194.40.74]) (Authenticated sender: jch) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E162BEB274; Sun, 9 Jul 2017 17:17:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 17:17:57 +0200 Message-ID: <8737a5skpm.wl-jch@irif.fr> From: Juliusz Chroboczek In-Reply-To: <83inj1k6l6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871spqlof6.wl-jch@irif.fr> <83shi6jq7w.fsf@gnu.org> <87podarkux.wl-jch@irif.fr> <83pod9k8eq.fsf@gnu.org> <877ezhsmq1.wl-jch@irif.fr> <83inj1k6l6.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:2]); Sun, 09 Jul 2017 17:18:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (potemkin.univ-paris7.fr [194.254.61.141]); Sun, 09 Jul 2017 17:18:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at korolev with ID 59624928.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-Miltered: at potemkin with ID 59624926.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 59624928.002 from potemkin.univ-paris7.fr/potemkin.univ-paris7.fr/null/potemkin.univ-paris7.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 59624926.000 from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/null/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 59624928.002 on korolev.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 59624926.000 on potemkin.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 12:41:22 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > So I just added an index entry to the manual; now you can type "i VC > RET" (with "VC" in upper-case) and get yourself landed where you wanted. Thanks. > In any case, the usual recommended way of looking up something in an > Info manual is by using Info-index ('i') I'll try to correct my bad habits, then. > If this is sufficient, we can close this bug report. Ok. -- Juliusz