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Wrong documentation for .emacs lookup on Windows

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From: Björn Lindqvist <bjourne <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Wrong documentation for .emacs lookup on Windows
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 18:08:23 +0200

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Information in these pages is incorrect:

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Windows-HOME.html
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq-w32/Location-of-init-file.html

In my case .emacs is at "C:\Users\bjorn\AppData\Roaming\.emacs" Emacs does
not set the value of the HOME variable to that location:

(getenv "HOME")
"C:\\Users\\bjorn"

And "Within Emacs, <~> at the beginning of a file name is expanded to your
HOME directory, so you can always find your .emacs file by typing the
command C-x C-f ~/.emacs." is therefore not true:

(expand-file-name "~/.emacs")
"c:/Users/bjorn/.emacs"


-- 
mvh/best regards Björn Lindqvist

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Message #8 received at 27589 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Björn Lindqvist <bjourne <at> gmail.com>
To: 27589 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#27589: Wrong documentation for .emacs lookup on Windows
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 18:16:21 +0200

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Oops, forgot to mention version 24.5.1. Also if I try to open the file
"c:/Users/bjorn/AppData/Roaming/.emacs" something weird happens and Emacs
redirects me to the file "c:/Users/bjorn/.emacs" instead.

2017-07-05 18:08 GMT+02:00 Björn Lindqvist <bjourne <at> gmail.com>:

> Information in these pages is incorrect:
>
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/
> Windows-HOME.html
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq-
> w32/Location-of-init-file.html
>
> In my case .emacs is at "C:\Users\bjorn\AppData\Roaming\.emacs" Emacs
> does not set the value of the HOME variable to that location:
>
> (getenv "HOME")
> "C:\\Users\\bjorn"
>
> And "Within Emacs, <~> at the beginning of a file name is expanded to your
> HOME directory, so you can always find your .emacs file by typing the
> command C-x C-f ~/.emacs." is therefore not true:
>
> (expand-file-name "~/.emacs")
> "c:/Users/bjorn/.emacs"
>
>
> --
> mvh/best regards Björn Lindqvist
>



-- 
mvh/best regards Björn Lindqvist

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Message #11 received at 27589 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Björn Lindqvist <bjourne <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 27589 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#27589: Wrong documentation for .emacs lookup on Windows
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2017 20:10:06 +0300

> From: Björn Lindqvist <bjourne <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 18:08:23 +0200
> 
> Information in these pages is incorrect:
> 
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Windows-HOME.html
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq-w32/Location-of-init-file.html
> 
> In my case .emacs is at "C:\Users\bjorn\AppData\Roaming\.emacs" Emacs does not set the value of the
> HOME variable to that location:
> 
> (getenv "HOME")
> "C:\\Users\\bjorn"
> 
> And "Within Emacs, <~> at the beginning of a file name is expanded to your HOME directory, so you can
> always find your .emacs file by typing the command C-x C-f ~/.emacs." is therefore not true:
> 
> (expand-file-name "~/.emacs")
> "c:/Users/bjorn/.emacs"

The information in the manual is correct, I just verified it both in
Emacs 24.5 and 25.  The problems that you see are most probably due to
some local issue on your system, like ownership of directories or some
environment variable.

And btw, what version of Windows is that?  And how are you invoking
Emacs? from some shell prompt, from a desktop shortcut, from a
task-bar shortcut, or some other way?

Message #14 received at 27589 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Björn Lindqvist <bjourne <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 27589 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#27589: Wrong documentation for .emacs lookup on Windows
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 00:09:26 +0200

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Sorry, this was a PEBKAC. I had used  (setenv "HOME" (concat (getenv
"HOMEDRIVE") (getenv "HOMEPATH"))) to set the HOME environment variable
from within emacs which I now understand is a terrible idea.

2017-07-05 19:10 GMT+02:00 Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>:

> > From: Björn Lindqvist <bjourne <at> gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 18:08:23 +0200
> >
> > Information in these pages is incorrect:
> >
> > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/
> Windows-HOME.html
> > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq-
> w32/Location-of-init-file.html
> >
> > In my case .emacs is at "C:\Users\bjorn\AppData\Roaming\.emacs" Emacs
> does not set the value of the
> > HOME variable to that location:
> >
> > (getenv "HOME")
> > "C:\\Users\\bjorn"
> >
> > And "Within Emacs, <~> at the beginning of a file name is expanded to
> your HOME directory, so you can
> > always find your .emacs file by typing the command C-x C-f ~/.emacs." is
> therefore not true:
> >
> > (expand-file-name "~/.emacs")
> > "c:/Users/bjorn/.emacs"
>
> The information in the manual is correct, I just verified it both in
> Emacs 24.5 and 25.  The problems that you see are most probably due to
> some local issue on your system, like ownership of directories or some
> environment variable.
>
> And btw, what version of Windows is that?  And how are you invoking
> Emacs? from some shell prompt, from a desktop shortcut, from a
> task-bar shortcut, or some other way?
>



-- 
mvh/best regards Björn Lindqvist

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Message #19 received at 27589-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Björn Lindqvist <bjourne <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 27589-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#27589: Wrong documentation for .emacs lookup on Windows
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 09:47:29 +0300

> From: Björn Lindqvist <bjourne <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 00:09:26 +0200
> Cc: 27589 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Sorry, this was a PEBKAC. I had used (setenv "HOME" (concat (getenv "HOMEDRIVE") (getenv
> "HOMEPATH"))) to set the HOME environment variable from within emacs which I now understand is a
> terrible idea.

Thanks, I'm therefore closing the bug report.

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