From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:31:35 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#2757 <2757@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#2757 <2757@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: remove vc-file-not-found-hook in 23.2 Reply-To: bug#2757 <2757@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2025 18:31:35 +0000 retitle 2757 remove vc-file-not-found-hook in 23.2 reassign 2757 emacs submitter 2757 Dan Nicolaescu severity 2757 wishlist thanks From dann@godzilla.ics.uci.edu Mon Mar 23 10:36:15 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 23 Mar 2009 17:36:15 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2NHaDlr023888 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:36:14 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Llo4K-0006oa-Ja for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:36:12 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Llo4G-0006nK-JM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:36:12 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36673 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Llo4G-0006nH-FX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:36:08 -0400 Received: from sallyv2.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.120]:39413) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Llo4F-0001Db-TT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:36:08 -0400 Received: from godzilla.ics.uci.edu (godzilla.ics.uci.edu [128.195.10.101]) by sallyv2.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n2NHYR5p016859 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dann@localhost) by godzilla.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id n2NHYRqF011668; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200903231734.n2NHYRqF011668@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> From: Dan Nicolaescu To: bug-gnu-emacs Subject: disable (or deprecate) vc-file-not-found-hook for 23.1 X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Lines: 11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: n2NHYR5p016859 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@godzilla.ics.uci.edu X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) The vc-file-not-found-hook behavior is only used by RCS, and it is a strange wart anyway. IMO we should remove vc-file-not-found-hook from file-not-found-hook by default for 23.1 and even remove the `find-file-not-found-hook' VC method. We can put instructions in NEWS that if people want the old behavior, they can add vc-rcs-file-not-found-hook to find-file-not-found hook. This hook adds a cost every time when opening a non-VC managed file. From monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA Mon Mar 23 12:18:27 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 23 Mar 2009 19:18:27 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2NJIO4o019063 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:18:25 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LlpfD-0000ze-R4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:18:23 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Llpf9-0000x8-AH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:18:23 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46573 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Llpf8-0000x2-Vh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:18:19 -0400 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:40128) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Llpf8-0006j5-J8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:18:18 -0400 Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n2NJIC6j001767; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:18:12 -0400 Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A91DB80B49; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:18:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Dan Nicolaescu Cc: 2757@debbugs.gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs Subject: Re: bug#2757: disable (or deprecate) vc-file-not-found-hook for 23.1 Message-ID: References: <200903231734.n2NHYRqF011668@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:18:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200903231734.n2NHYRqF011668@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> (Dan Nicolaescu's message of "Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:34:27 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3237=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 > IMO we should remove vc-file-not-found-hook from file-not-found-hook by > default for 23.1 and even remove the `find-file-not-found-hook' VC > method. Let's remove it in Emacs-23.2. > This hook adds a cost every time when opening a non-VC managed file. Really? It should only be triggered when opening a non-existent file. Stefan From dann@godzilla.ics.uci.edu Mon Mar 23 14:54:56 2009 Received: (at 2757) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 23 Mar 2009 21:54:56 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from barrelv2.ics.uci.edu (barrelv2.ics.uci.edu [128.195.1.114]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2NLsmni028506; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:54:49 -0700 Received: from godzilla.ics.uci.edu (godzilla.ics.uci.edu [128.195.10.101]) by barrelv2.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2NLsZuj014195; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dann@localhost) by godzilla.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id n2NLsY5M014942; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200903232154.n2NLsY5M014942@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> From: Dan Nicolaescu To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 2757@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2757: disable (or deprecate) vc-file-not-found-hook for 23.1 References: <200903231734.n2NHYRqF011668@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:18:11 -0400") Lines: 18 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: n2NLsZuj014195 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@godzilla.ics.uci.edu retitle 2757 remove vc-file-not-found-hook in 23.2 quit Stefan Monnier writes: > > IMO we should remove vc-file-not-found-hook from file-not-found-hook by > > default for 23.1 and even remove the `find-file-not-found-hook' VC > > method. > > Let's remove it in Emacs-23.2. Fine, adjusted the subject accordingly. > > This hook adds a cost every time when opening a non-VC managed file. > > Really? It should only be triggered when opening a non-existent file. You're right. From lekktu@gmail.com Wed Mar 25 03:09:20 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Mar 2009 10:09:20 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.1 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from barrelv2.ics.uci.edu (barrelv2.ics.uci.edu [128.195.1.114]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n5QNsMMa029606 for <2757-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:54:24 -0700 Received: from godzilla.ics.uci.edu (godzilla.ics.uci.edu [128.195.10.101]) by barrelv2.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5QNs1XP026208; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dann@localhost) by godzilla.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id n5QNrxbh008540; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200906262353.n5QNrxbh008540@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> From: Dan Nicolaescu To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 2757-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2757: disable (or deprecate) vc-file-not-found-hook for 23.1 References: <200903231734.n2NHYRqF011668@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:18:11 -0400") Lines: 10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: n5QNs1XP026208 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@godzilla.ics.uci.edu Stefan Monnier writes: > > IMO we should remove vc-file-not-found-hook from file-not-found-hook by > > default for 23.1 and even remove the `find-file-not-found-hook' VC > > method. > > Let's remove it in Emacs-23.2. 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