From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:34:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#27492: 24.5; doc string of `kmacro-start-macro' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 23:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 27492 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 27492@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.149843311531648 (code B ref -1); Sun, 25 Jun 2017 23:26:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2017 23:25:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37767 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dPGu2-0008EO-MP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 19:25:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37159) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dPGu0-0008EA-DR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 19:25:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dPGtu-0000SC-CP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 19:25:07 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:33854) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dPGtu-0000S2-9V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 19:25:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56362) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dPGtt-000130-7m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 19:25:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dPGto-0000QW-0h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 19:25:05 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:45476) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dPGtn-0000Ps-Me for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 19:24:59 -0400 Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v5PNOtVH029021 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 23:24:56 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v5PNOt5B028851 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 23:24:55 GMT Received: from abhmp0002.oracle.com (abhmp0002.oracle.com [141.146.116.8]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v5PNOsBE030576 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 23:24:55 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 16:24:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6770.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) This part is incorrect: "Use \\[kmacro-name-last-macro] to give it a permanent name." There is nothing permanent about the name. Just say give it a name. In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2015-04-11 on LEG570 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/usr --host=3Di686-pc-mingw32' From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:34:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#27492: 24.5; doc string of `kmacro-start-macro' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 23:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27492 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 27492@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 27492-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27492.149843345032219 (code B ref 27492); Sun, 25 Jun 2017 23:31:02 +0000 Received: (at 27492) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2017 23:30:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37772 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dPGzS-0008Na-C3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 19:30:50 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:35940) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dPGzR-0008NN-0t for 27492@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 19:30:49 -0400 Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v5PNUgmC006842 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for <27492@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 23:30:42 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v5PNUg5K018764 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for <27492@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 23:30:42 GMT Received: from abhmp0002.oracle.com (abhmp0002.oracle.com [141.146.116.8]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v5PNUg2p032662 for <27492@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 23:30:42 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <26578868-ffc9-4c27-8d21-d25d10e3bb55@default> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 16:30:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6770.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Sorry, I should have included the doc strings of these functions, which also erroneously speak of making the name "permanent": kmacro-call-macro kmacro-end-and-call-macro Note, by the way, that the Emacs manual presentation of keyboard macros does not use the word "permanent". There should be no reason to do that. From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:34:10 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Drew Adams Subject: bug#27492: closed (Re: bug#27492: 24.5; doc string of `kmacro-start-macro') Message-ID: References: <838tjganfk.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 27492 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 27492@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 08:26:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1500711962-24716-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1500711962-24716-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #27492: 24.5; doc string of `kmacro-start-macro' which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 27492@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 27492: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D27492 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1500711962-24716-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 27492-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jul 2017 08:25:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51840 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dYpix-0006Po-Cy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jul 2017 04:25:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33944) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dYpiv-0006Pb-KP for 27492-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jul 2017 04:25:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dYpin-0006LF-BX for 27492-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jul 2017 04:25:12 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42181) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dYpin-0006Kv-7V; Sat, 22 Jul 2017 04:25:09 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3345 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dYpim-0008Cj-LR; Sat, 22 Jul 2017 04:25:08 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 11:25:03 +0300 Message-Id: <838tjganfk.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-reply-to: <26578868-ffc9-4c27-8d21-d25d10e3bb55@default> (message from Drew Adams on Sun, 25 Jun 2017 16:30:40 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: bug#27492: 24.5; doc string of `kmacro-start-macro' References: <26578868-ffc9-4c27-8d21-d25d10e3bb55@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -7.8 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 27492-done Cc: 27492-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -7.8 (-------) > Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 16:30:40 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > > Sorry, I should have included the doc strings of these functions, > which also erroneously speak of making the name "permanent": > > kmacro-call-macro > kmacro-end-and-call-macro Thanks, fixed. ------------=_1500711962-24716-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 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Sun, 25 Jun 2017 23:24:55 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 16:24:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.5; doc string of `kmacro-start-macro' X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6770.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) This part is incorrect: "Use \\[kmacro-name-last-macro] to give it a permanent name." There is nothing permanent about the name. Just say give it a name. In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2015-04-11 on LEG570 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/usr --host=3Di686-pc-mingw32' ------------=_1500711962-24716-1--