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25.2; Please don't curly quote example code in docstring.

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From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 25.2; Please don't curly quote example code in docstring.
Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 20:39:10 +0200

When copying/pasting example code with quotes from a docstring, user have
to replace curly quotes "’" by real quote "'" before evaling code which
is a regression IMO.

e.g     
   (defvar bar 1)
   (foo ’bar)

progn: Symbol’s value as variable is void: ’bar

because ’bar is read as ’bar instead of (quote bar).

Thanks.




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Message #8 received at 26998 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 26998 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#26998: 25.2;
 Please don't curly quote example code in docstring.
Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 15:39:51 -0400

Thierry Volpiatto wrote:

> When copying/pasting example code with quotes from a docstring, user have
> to replace curly quotes "'" by real quote "'" before evaling code which
> is a regression IMO.
>
> e.g     
>    (defvar bar 1)
>    (foo 'bar)

Is the above supposed to be part of a doc-string?
A complete example is always helpful:

(defvar my-var nil
 "Blah.
Do stuff:
  (defvar bar 1)
  (foo \\='bar)
  (foo 'bar)
")
C-h v my-var

So I guess all existing lisp doc-strings everywhere are supposed to be
audited for use of ' and \= escapes added where needed.
(I believe it has been done for code in Emacs.)
This has been discussed several times over on this and other Emacs lists,
so there probably isn't anything new left to say.

Message #11 received at 26998 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, 26998 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#26998: 25.2;
 Please don't curly quote example code in docstring.
Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 06:51:57 +0200

Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

> So I guess all existing lisp doc-strings everywhere are supposed to be
> audited for use of ' and \= escapes added where needed.

Ok thanks.

> (I believe it has been done for code in Emacs.)

Not sure but IIRC I saw these quotes in some places in the info pages as
well.

> This has been discussed several times over on this and other Emacs lists,

I don't follow anymore those lists, is this documented somewhere ?

-- 
Thierry
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Message #14 received at 26998 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, 26998 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#26998: 25.2;
 Please don't curly quote example code in docstring.
Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 07:03:14 +0200

Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

> So I guess all existing lisp doc-strings everywhere are supposed to be
> audited for use of ' and \= escapes added where needed.

Also I guess this is not compatible with older emacs ?...

-- 
Thierry
Gpg Key fingerprint = 6CEC 7081 AB33 E251 4AB8  5FC2 28D1 7F53 59F2 9997

Message #17 received at 26998 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, 26998 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#26998: 25.2;
 Please don't curly quote example code in docstring.
Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 07:13:25 +0200

Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

> so there probably isn't anything new left to say.

I found `text-quoting-style' which is nil by default which seems to be
same as 'curve, setting it to 'grave fixed my docstrings, would be great
to make 'grave the default.

-- 
Thierry
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Message #20 received at 26998 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: npostavs <at> users.sourceforge.net
To: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, 26998 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#26998: 25.2;
 Please don't curly quote example code in docstring.
Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 18:44:54 -0400

Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> I don't follow anymore those lists, is this documented somewhere ?

See `(elisp) Keys in Documentation'.

>> So I guess all existing lisp doc-strings everywhere are supposed to be
>> audited for use of ' and \= escapes added where needed.
>
> Also I guess this is not compatible with older emacs ?...

Actually, I see it's documented as far back as 19.34 (earliest tag I can
find...).

> I found `text-quoting-style' which is nil by default which seems to be
> same as 'curve, setting it to 'grave fixed my docstrings, would be great
> to make 'grave the default.

Even if 'grave' was the default, the docstrings with unescaped quotes
would still be broken for people who chose 'curve'.

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