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Reply-To: bug#26947 <26947@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 01:49:13 +0000 retitle 26947 Preserve read-only when debugger with let-bound inhibit-read-= only t. reassign 26947 emacs submitter 26947 Keith David Bershatsky severity 26947 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 15 20:00:49 2017 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2017 00:00:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47162 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dAPuz-0004Dp-29 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2017 20:00:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58756) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dAPuw-0004Db-VF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2017 20:00:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dAPuq-00023s-R0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2017 20:00:41 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:36974) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dAPuq-00023m-NG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2017 20:00:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49719) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dAPup-0006G5-B6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2017 20:00:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dAPuk-00022m-F2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2017 20:00:39 -0400 Received: from gateway34.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.148.196]:32297) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dAPuk-0001yf-6g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2017 20:00:34 -0400 Received: from cm4.websitewelcome.com (unknown [108.167.139.16]) by gateway34.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA7851EAA6 for ; Mon, 15 May 2017 19:00:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator3053.hostgator.com ([50.87.144.69]) by cm4.websitewelcome.com with id Lo0G1v0191W3Awq01o0H7V; Mon, 15 May 2017 19:00:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lawlist.com ; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Subject:To:From:Message-ID:Date: Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=WXHDMk8oaJPo6XRvrpdPxDnhv01a3WzPD8e1izGrrxc=; b=GevYjAfbv0BRbAxHhzcD6Ti5X9 2tCLKYxaMvjcGEbNM77VVhcuuxk0+rX5j/gbbBS9x+8DnsGxmIrmERHgFOJhmqqLbMdzEo402tiXz BWNfHIXbJUoiDwTuxZJw5l0hMef8ITayR27xeN88bn/AGFTvRBJmJa9P9jM3p4azkcB8mxuGQSD5l nc7s6WA9tDVwHePojwmNiTnID/9cZQxI8ErWdqe3ueYoaMmAbJOEisdJrp2/xdMbHktr7zmGJged0 UnVn9Va1ZK0HrPa++xN/S9hPPFfHE9p8We48pSL5ZebrSiWoW4GW5QrgDa1gZVnl0MEHxL+VDC0tN 6NwaH06A==; Received: from cpe-45-48-239-195.socal.res.rr.com ([45.48.239.195]:52773 helo=server.local) by gator3053.hostgator.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dAPuR-000UCq-Ma for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2017 19:00:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 17:00:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: Keith David Bershatsky To: Emacs Bug Reports Subject: Preserve read-only when debugger with let-bound inhibit-read-only t. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator3053.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - lawlist.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 45.48.239.195 X-Exim-ID: 1dAPuR-000UCq-Ma X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: cpe-45-48-239-195.socal.res.rr.com (server.local) [45.48.239.195]:52773 X-Source-Auth: lawlist X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bGF3bGlzdDtsYXdsaXN0O2dhdG9yMzA1My5ob3N0Z2F0b3IuY29t X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Entering the debugger when inhibit-read-only is let-bound to `t` causes all buffers to be read/write even though they may have `buffer-read-only` set to `t`. Step #1: Launch with emacs -q. Step #2: Navigate to the `*scratch*` buffer and set to read-only with C-x C-q. Step #3: Evaluate: (let ((inhibit-read-only t)) (error "stop")) Step #4: Select the window display the `*scratch*` buffer and type something. All open buffers are read/write. Expected Behavior: Protect buffers that have previously been set to `buffer-read-only` with `t`. Workaround: Add the following to the outset of the function `debug`: (when inhibit-read-only (setq inhibit-read-only nil)) The workaround can be perfected to test for whether inhibit-read-only is let-bound to `t` and if it is then ... I say that just in case someone wants `inhibit-read-only` to always be `t` and in that case the debugger shouldn't turn it off. Here is the new thread on emacs.stackexchange.com: https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/32829/inhibit-read-only-affects-all-buffers-when-backtrace-buffer-is-open Thanks, Keith From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 17 09:34:25 2017 Received: (at 26947) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2017 13:34:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49758 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dAz5t-0005Ct-Hm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 May 2017 09:34:25 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:15453) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dAz5q-0005Cb-8a for 26947@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 May 2017 09:34:23 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0DoCQC2UBxZ/wsbNJ1cHAEBBAEBCgEBg1VChEuFWoV/kHMrAZVJgg+GHgQCAoVZQhYBAgEBAQEBAQFrKIUZAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSQuigAIr0eLBgEBAQcCJotYilUBBJ4QlQcYiG8zhkeURiYNJIEKLyAILoVygWYkiR4BAQE X-IPAS-Result: A0DoCQC2UBxZ/wsbNJ1cHAEBBAEBCgEBg1VChEuFWoV/kHMrAZVJgg+GHgQCAoVZQhYBAgEBAQEBAQFrKIUZAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSQuigAIr0eLBgEBAQcCJotYilUBBJ4QlQcYiG8zhkeURiYNJIEKLyAILoVygWYkiR4BAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.38,354,1491278400"; d="scan'208";a="312967485" Received: from 157-52-27-11.cpe.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([157.52.27.11]) by smtp.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 17 May 2017 09:34:15 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D12DC602D3; Wed, 17 May 2017 09:34:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Keith David Bershatsky Subject: Re: bug#26947: Preserve read-only when debugger with let-bound inhibit-read-only t. Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 09:34:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Keith David Bershatsky's message of "Mon, 15 May 2017 17:00:14 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26947 Cc: 26947@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > Entering the debugger when inhibit-read-only is let-bound to `t` causes all > buffers to be read/write even though they may have `buffer-read-only` set to > `t`. [...] > (when inhibit-read-only > (setq inhibit-read-only nil)) Actually, the better option is probably to (let ((inhibit-read-only nil)) around debug, like we already do with various other variables. Of course, this is a general problem with dynamic scoping. Maybe a better solution would be for `debug` to use another thread, so it's not affected by those dynamic bindings of the debugged code. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 17 14:06:06 2017 Received: (at 26947) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2017 18:06:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51263 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dB3Kn-0003W4-OH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 May 2017 14:06:05 -0400 Received: from gateway20.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.61.9]:12589) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dB3Km-0003Vv-04 for 26947@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 May 2017 14:06:04 -0400 Received: from cm15.websitewelcome.com (cm15.websitewelcome.com [100.42.49.9]) by gateway20.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C50F400C6CA6 for <26947@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 17 May 2017 13:06:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator3053.hostgator.com ([50.87.144.69]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id B3KydUeCki9UEB3KydAl29; Wed, 17 May 2017 13:06:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lawlist.com ; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Subject:Cc:To:From:Message-ID:Date: Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Tv0Puo0XlrVG2cUssvrVlCQROBsBWkLHJaF4V4+1db4=; b=Nna3GpyONm3nMAW+gYPYXhFZBL KYxmR9fx6UmzKba6xNxxlGjy7Gu7oJ98+TMxPH1t0IP8HeBcqkgtIS4cs1Y6M4EmOxgtcYAvTXWwe +fx/fZQAsKjoBBxLzg6bQRugc1YZ7ca7hfGf/oi4nyyyWkYZEHc1tJTUzYfFs7nGKw4g9vKNEvLsd 8KMb24QKe9PCuOq1BqTxtdmeXH8xrAVUull1khSXKIE8ueHUCICjLt0219sXtT7rxfNfudiZAXiwf ojj/H/daUJhWqpWPSDlCr/BFOU0nv4ErcH85Hpko0jXmMm4eZfYeF4300lCAa46P9k6Wj+ZvL6F/S NmUev+VQ==; Received: from [209.36.208.252] (port=49356 helo=mb.local) by gator3053.hostgator.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dB3Ki-00038f-NG; Wed, 17 May 2017 13:06:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 11:05:59 -0700 Message-ID: From: Keith David Bershatsky To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#26947: Preserve read-only when debugger with let-bound inhibit-read-only t. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator3053.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - lawlist.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 209.36.208.252 X-Exim-ID: 1dB3Ki-00038f-NG X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (mb.local) [209.36.208.252]:49356 X-Source-Auth: lawlist X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bGF3bGlzdDtsYXdsaXN0O2dhdG9yMzA1My5ob3N0Z2F0b3IuY29t X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26947 Cc: 26947@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Yes, let-binding is indeed better than using `setq`. Thank you. Keith ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; DATE: [05-17-2017 06:34:15] <17 May 2017 09:34:15 -0400> FROM: Stefan Monnier > > *** > > Actually, the better option is probably to > > (let ((inhibit-read-only nil)) > > around debug, like we already do with various other variables. > > *** From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 13 09:49:24 2021 Received: (at 26947) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Aug 2021 13:49:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40944 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mEXYl-0002HV-Uq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 09:49:24 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51890) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mEXYf-0002H9-Ns for 26947@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 09:49:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=s8SOHIlnaBBgfvKfK/Ykpy5IkKJZWJ1KGTVMYY/Q3+4=; b=g9WTuYtUMLYclx0DLsX1zlYqqC 2YWxgDaP1k1pECRzKY05ubjXXRtoVNZaVLaM/jMcDkWNUUxyhJrd0Te15IukqF9Nle+rkobbcSDSs 7ULnC3tjUYU42Px1X/bx006EevJ67iCp/6pkZUlyaz1B6BirormIYBwuievdudxtJLaw=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mEXYU-0004ZY-0i; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 15:49:06 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Keith David Bershatsky Subject: Re: bug#26947: Preserve read-only when debugger with let-bound inhibit-read-only t. References: Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 15:49:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Keith David Bershatsky's message of "Mon, 15 May 2017 17:00:14 -0700") Message-ID: <875yw9bgky.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Keith David Bershatsky writes: > Entering the debugger when inhibit-read-only is let-bound to `t` > causes all buffers to be read/write even though they may have > `buffer-read-only` set to `t`. > > Step #1: Launch with emacs -q. > [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26947 Cc: 26947@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Keith David Bershatsky writes: > Entering the debugger when inhibit-read-only is let-bound to `t` > causes all buffers to be read/write even though they may have > `buffer-read-only` set to `t`. > > Step #1: Launch with emacs -q. > > Step #2: Navigate to the `*scratch*` buffer and set to read-only with C-x C-q. > > Step #3: Evaluate: (let ((inhibit-read-only t)) (error "stop")) > > Step #4: Select the window display the `*scratch*` buffer and type > something. All open buffers are read/write. Full test case: (progn (setq debug-on-error t buffer-read-only t) (let ((inhibit-read-only t)) (error "stop"))) This should now be fixed in Emacs 28. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 13 09:50:34 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Aug 2021 13:50:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40948 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mEXZy-0002Jw-Hp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 09:50:34 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51906) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mEXZw-0002Ji-Vx for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 09:50:33 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=MhoXiEJFckJJ3Mi6Rpg0Hnws3duNmZjdDFNCmeqdZO0=; b=lrJ93MVoUwIWdnjzBOVJDKWP25 PZ0uZivg0Outi0Y2YBJ3o4/2HRDCMyk2ZE4oQeYFhWjgr9fat7NRPzaTQLJ0ad0lLq/E1j1E7PV8B HRzWf+xPVMBUtCd4kh3ovzva60+A/pSgs83TlAJyxN7h/g2/xddw8uYws+L57537/tK4=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mEXZp-0004aB-4x for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 15:50:27 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 15:50:23 +0200 Message-Id: <874kbtbgio.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #26947 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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