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Reply-To: bug#26786 <26786@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2025 12:02:32 +0000 retitle 26786 [PATCH] gnu: emacs-org: Update to 20170502. reassign 26786 guix-patches submitter 26786 Vasile Dumitrascu severity 26786 normal tag 26786 patch thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 05 13:43:29 2017 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 May 2017 17:43:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56653 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d6hGL-0005lW-Jo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 13:43:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56275) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d6hGJ-0005lJ-LP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 13:43:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d6hGD-0000FI-If for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 13:43:22 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:60040) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d6hGD-0000FA-FM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 13:43:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47229) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d6hGC-0007iA-3H for guix-patches@gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 13:43:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d6hG7-0000D4-7e for guix-patches@gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 13:43:20 -0400 Received: from nm39-vm6.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ([212.82.97.165]:33698) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d6hG6-0000CK-U2 for guix-patches@gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 13:43:15 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1494006193; bh=QcRiWWI1ciOZEfdfhhUNVt9xOq/C0TdZUEuoG4QJTwo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=sGg/efiT7/o92+qC2vJLjvwmb2giDryRHsqUZ3o9nLLbDIc/R5c9xIwSOutwkSF9G+8mUI1+9dpuvwDjk+m68pEyNx0iVakiPaAOKH0BZ3qg+eCrIaeFsD9dIYCo6nH6G3XErMisPLpSBiWAl++NwStvLHAaisU4mE82G5+Uf+0h+MwG4g54Xse8+Ha+82Mx7kM2Xgmn3pAGgKK+TteElaNURNuaIfkCSNiTPiUIFEOo4RvvFiG1wdjCZbMrqe1uYma0YBX8dgap+12ZnZP4eK9IPV3aLYpH1eS9AMSnyfv2eQ75rUpHLod6cCUD7e0tGOh2vlerI2LPFCM5EhwoDg== Received: from [212.82.98.55] by nm39.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2017 17:43:13 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.111] by tm8.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2017 17:43:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp148.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2017 17:43:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 221935.29720.bm@smtp148.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: PT95vZIVM1krhamvC.YHqOiVuVphD2kQXeY.7vltgTLFfMs u11_lSHj.kZ1wvg1LRqiu540UX81mbArtVCDBwxYhln4tNMEAJJDek4O3gpQ Wxfx1MFLl_gMCsOO7OiGJuY9ZyCqsc13sgO4ioVUkvDICb8zncEhe1oQtjgx b73OuOMUDhZxQItzmzim6ohX0SXUBwV0SKmaVz3cYHJWD0XzGGU.NPW9O353 tTCsRgAJbsM7xcD9HrBrUtfet.VAcYREqaVJ.rmlIDXcYv21knKbohWfo0Zl m9TcdLn3SqOdW5xAPnH5UK2MpjYKBx5PJJaqvJXg5VrCDgoEvys1.i7Sq2I2 GskM_V0wwdVhZWlpjn2mf2SLDe6XaCmCYYuFP15M5sFK.kHEInvvCMrWaRHY 7KAE0uT.TzqHYm4UVGulmJ.boo7bGplCX_74tKfCNxLZ5jV2du_teSdBJGlK PGR98ywIcNzti.prvsmvIkYd3qqJzjz2zq4rX86rCBYTEg7I4u3buy2N_EeI qmxvmW6DBOBBH8yObFIpNfU2_2KphSX2lN2yiQzXgA1TZSc9VWAWUDVhRxVw u X-Yahoo-SMTP: o_FQ6XmswBD7.E8YdI7Y9Z.SpA-- From: Vasile Dumitrascu To: guix-patches@gnu.org Subject: [PATCH] gnu: emacs-org: Update to 20170502. Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 19:43:09 +0200 Message-Id: <20170505174309.12870-1-va511e@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.11.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Vasile Dumitrascu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) * gnu/packages/emacs.scm (emacs-org): Update to 20170502. --- gnu/packages/emacs.scm | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/gnu/packages/emacs.scm b/gnu/packages/emacs.scm index 74f0ff8b5..04ceb0e4d 100644 --- a/gnu/packages/emacs.scm +++ b/gnu/packages/emacs.scm @@ -3574,14 +3574,14 @@ passive voice.") (define-public emacs-org (package (name "emacs-org") - (version "20170210") + (version "20170502") (source (origin (method url-fetch) (uri (string-append "http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/org-" version ".tar")) (sha256 (base32 - "15415wh3w8d4c8hd7qfrfdjnjb1zppmrkg8cdp7hw2ilyr90c0bn")))) + "12inz804j55ycprb2m3ay54d1bhwhjssmn5nrfm7cfklyhfsy27s")))) (build-system emacs-build-system) (home-page "http://orgmode.org/") (synopsis "Outline-based notes management and organizer") -- 2.11.0 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 05 16:45:56 2017 Received: (at 26786-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 May 2017 20:45:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56841 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d6k6u-00027N-N1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 16:45:56 -0400 Received: from o133.p8.mailjet.com ([87.253.233.133]:36932) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <265df8fb.AEMAKBlDVHMAAAAAAAAAAAO79XUAAAACwQwAAAAAAAW9WABZDOSB@bnc3.mailjet.com>) id 1d6k6t-00027E-34 for 26786-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 16:45:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; d=bnc3.mailjet.com; i=arunisaac=3Dsystemreboot.net@bnc3.mailjet.com; s=mailjet; h=message-id:mime-version:from:to:subject:date:list-unsubscribe:in-reply-to: references:x-csa-complaints:x-mj-mid:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kbtHVh2IVdZpPBoK7Ct4XWBr6l8=; b=GfsKlIyhFgmG1lOMhcbc9Jh2f5boEC1I/GV/HsJ1gdTsn6r2ygxLLCX6T zTOHI8aRlW/KI+59QrxrSLtNKP+5VJng2HvCYVh6LdPAYxV+JztRw5+tMNJo sKeJ1IzNAP6vriO8sc5x6f55WEXsCQf0AiVnU2/slRywy9R+th7ypY= Message-Id: <265df8fb.AEMAKBlDVHMAAAAAAAAAAAO79XUAAAACwQwAAAAAAAW9WABZDOSB@mailjet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Arun Isaac To: 26786-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#26786: [PATCH] gnu: emacs-org: Update to 20170502. Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 02:15:22 +0530 In-reply-to: <20170505174309.12870-1-va511e@yahoo.com> References: <20170505174309.12870-1-va511e@yahoo.com> X-CSA-Complaints: whitelist-complaints@eco.de X-MJ-Mid: AEMAKBlDVHMAAAAAAAAAAAO79XUAAAACwQwAAAAAAAW9WABZDOSB3ZwWHU16TqSQ5xeVUedORAAFgUc Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Pushed, thanks! I think we should build directly from org's release tarball at http://orgmode.org/org-9.0.6.tar.gz instead of using the ELPA tarball. It somehow feels like we are not building from source but rather relying on a prepackaged tarball from ELPA. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Pushed, thanks! I think we should build directly from org's release tarball at http://orgmode.org/org-9.0.6.tar.gz instead of using the ELPA tarball. It somehow feels like we are not building from source but rather relying on a prepackaged tarball from ELPA. However, Nicolas Goaziou, the org mode maintainer, disagrees. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg01395.html [...] Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [87.253.233.133 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.2 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see ] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 RBL: Very Good reputation (+4) [87.253.233.133 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.0 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid Pushed, thanks! I think we should build directly from org's release tarball at http://orgmode.org/org-9.0.6.tar.gz instead of using the ELPA tarball. It somehow feels like we are not building from source but rather relying on a prepackaged tarball from ELPA. However, Nicolas Goaziou, the org mode maintainer, disagrees. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg01395.h= tml = From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 05 18:07:09 2017 Received: (at 26786) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 May 2017 22:07:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56882 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d6lNU-0003zM-SH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 18:07:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60299) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d6lNT-0003z9-Vl for 26786@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 18:07:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d6lNK-0004Rv-Fh for 26786@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 18:07:02 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41659) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d6lMu-0004AY-AF; Fri, 05 May 2017 18:06:32 -0400 Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]:47348 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1d6lMt-00089g-O5; Fri, 05 May 2017 18:06:32 -0400 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: 26786@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#26786: [PATCH] gnu: emacs-org: Update to 20170502. References: <20170505174309.12870-1-va511e@yahoo.com> <265df8fb.AEMAKBlDVHMAAAAAAAAAAAO79XUAAAACwQwAAAAAAAW9WABZDOSB@mailjet.com> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 17 =?utf-8?Q?Flor=C3=A9al?= an 225 de la =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 00:06:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <265df8fb.AEMAKBlDVHMAAAAAAAAAAAO79XUAAAACwQwAAAAAAAW9WABZDOSB@mailjet.com> (Arun Isaac's message of "Sat, 06 May 2017 02:15:22 +0530") Message-ID: <87r303x8ka.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26786 Cc: arunisaac@systemreboot.net, va511e@yahoo.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Arun Isaac skribis: > I think we should build directly from org's release tarball at > http://orgmode.org/org-9.0.6.tar.gz instead of using the ELPA > tarball. It somehow feels like we are not building from source but > rather relying on a prepackaged tarball from ELPA. However, Nicolas > Goaziou, the org mode maintainer, > disagrees. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg01395= .html I find Nicolas=E2=80=99s argument above (that building from ELPA makes the recipe trivial) pretty convincing. Why would you suggest using the tarball from orgmode.org? Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat May 06 00:07:43 2017 Received: (at 26786) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 May 2017 04:07:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57018 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d6r0R-0000qH-6P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 May 2017 00:07:43 -0400 Received: from o153.p8.mailjet.com ([87.253.233.153]:58434) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <8082ba63.AEQAKHOcDVMAAAAAAAAAAAO7_ZEAAAACwQwAAAAAAAW9WABZDUwM@bnc3.mailjet.com>) id 1d6r0P-0000q9-Rq for 26786@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 May 2017 00:07:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; d=bnc3.mailjet.com; i=arunisaac=3Dsystemreboot.net@bnc3.mailjet.com; s=mailjet; h=message-id:mime-version:from:to:subject:date:list-unsubscribe:in-reply-to: references:x-csa-complaints:x-mj-mid:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WfQdI7EJs8wYn4pgUXs6wo7ORxA=; b=GN9pCHmQkYUEFo/Dvbjv99NNijZUcvHjFKwt6A9aiqVe5AfTqEzdBYBAn RL9w5pfDKDZriYNfIgaQKmLwvhm66X7bgOctw+CXXCqq49jLPW8+OREVUzvO nsayd3V7aupsBPEBsFVYpOTHGg823QvKLD3Dj43ybxm8toWPWYtFNc= Message-Id: <8082ba63.AEQAKHOcDVMAAAAAAAAAAAO7_ZEAAAACwQwAAAAAAAW9WABZDUwM@mailjet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Arun Isaac To: 26786@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#26786: [PATCH] gnu: emacs-org: Update to 20170502. Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 09:37:08 +0530 In-reply-to: <87r303x8ka.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20170505174309.12870-1-va511e@yahoo.com> <265df8fb.AEMAKBlDVHMAAAAAAAAAAAO79XUAAAACwQwAAAAAAAW9WABZDOSB@mailjet.com> <87r303x8ka.fsf@gnu.org> X-CSA-Complaints: whitelist-complaints@eco.de X-MJ-Mid: AEQAKHOcDVMAAAAAAAAAAAO7_ZEAAAACwQwAAAAAAAW9WABZDUwMt4nDJ7sdQ9S09QcMIYJy9gAFgUc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26786 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) >> I think we should build directly from org's release tarball at >> http://orgmode.org/org-9.0.6.tar.gz instead of using the ELPA >> tarball. It somehow feels like we are not building from source but >> rather relying on a prepackaged tarball from ELPA. However, Nicolas >> Goaziou, the org mode maintainer, >> disagrees. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg01395.html > > I find Nicolas’s argument above (that building from ELPA makes the > recipe trivial) pretty convincing. > > Why would you suggest using the tarball from orgmode.org? It seems like we are depending on an intermediary (ELPA) instead of directly building from the original source. I feel that Guix packages should not depend on other repositories (like ELPA). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat May 06 09:47:17 2017 Received: (at 26786) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 May 2017 13:47:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57322 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d703J-0007v7-37 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 May 2017 09:47:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56226) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d703H-0007ut-JN for 26786@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 May 2017 09:47:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d7037-0008PZ-El for 26786@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 May 2017 09:47:09 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49944) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d7037-0008PV-BY; Sat, 06 May 2017 09:47:05 -0400 Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]:49442 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1d7036-0007b7-RB; Sat, 06 May 2017 09:47:05 -0400 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Arun Isaac Subject: Re: bug#26786: [PATCH] gnu: emacs-org: Update to 20170502. References: <20170505174309.12870-1-va511e@yahoo.com> <265df8fb.AEMAKBlDVHMAAAAAAAAAAAO79XUAAAACwQwAAAAAAAW9WABZDOSB@mailjet.com> <87r303x8ka.fsf@gnu.org> <8082ba63.AEQAKHOcDVMAAAAAAAAAAAO7_ZEAAAACwQwAAAAAAAW9WABZDUwM@mailjet.com> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 17 =?utf-8?Q?Flor=C3=A9al?= an 225 de la =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 15:47:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8082ba63.AEQAKHOcDVMAAAAAAAAAAAO7_ZEAAAACwQwAAAAAAAW9WABZDUwM@mailjet.com> (Arun Isaac's message of "Sat, 06 May 2017 09:37:08 +0530") Message-ID: <874lwyw10q.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26786 Cc: 26786@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Arun Isaac skribis: >>> I think we should build directly from org's release tarball at >>> http://orgmode.org/org-9.0.6.tar.gz instead of using the ELPA >>> tarball. It somehow feels like we are not building from source but >>> rather relying on a prepackaged tarball from ELPA. However, Nicolas >>> Goaziou, the org mode maintainer, >>> disagrees. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg013= 95.html >> >> I find Nicolas=E2=80=99s argument above (that building from ELPA makes t= he >> recipe trivial) pretty convincing. >> >> Why would you suggest using the tarball from orgmode.org? > > It seems like we are depending on an intermediary (ELPA) instead of > directly building from the original source. I feel that Guix packages > should not depend on other repositories (like ELPA). I agree with this sentiment, but my understanding is that ELPA is not really an =E2=80=9Cintermediary=E2=80=9D: package maintainers upload direct= ly there, and some upload only there. So I think it=E2=80=99s OK. Thoughts? Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat May 06 13:00:31 2017 Received: (at 26786) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 May 2017 17:00:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58468 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d734J-0006el-DB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 May 2017 13:00:31 -0400 Received: from o164.p9.mailjet.com ([87.253.234.164]:39226) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d734H-0006bu-8O for 26786@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 May 2017 13:00:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; d=bnc3.mailjet.com; i=arunisaac=3Dsystemreboot.net@bnc3.mailjet.com; s=mailjet; h=message-id:mime-version:from:to:subject:date:list-unsubscribe:in-reply-to: references:x-csa-complaints:x-mj-mid:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dYCzUC53JNzu058v9ICvKVD+CXg=; b=BNvw1VgK3cWilXWB8Wraoatrkba9FhhtboxzMgtRxQtpiwizfrOBtX3rr cD7Xz68q6JKwipLcKixfGg4HbMZNUguKSDGN3qGgneimpF+V/DDj+20ktibg Q2qJJI4aVqni1NBd4JAVpD2Xn2OpXIfNXqwVl0eXV0cHQBRZaKZFwM= Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Arun Isaac To: 26786@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#26786: [PATCH] gnu: emacs-org: Update to 20170502. Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 22:29:49 +0530 In-reply-to: <874lwyw10q.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20170505174309.12870-1-va511e@yahoo.com> <265df8fb.AEMAKBlDVHMAAAAAAAAAAAO79XUAAAACwQwAAAAAAAW9WABZDOSB@mailjet.com> <87r303x8ka.fsf@gnu.org> <8082ba63.AEQAKHOcDVMAAAAAAAAAAAO7_ZEAAAACwQwAAAAAAAW9WABZDUwM@mailjet.com> <874lwyw10q.fsf@gnu.org> X-CSA-Complaints: whitelist-complaints@eco.de X-MJ-Mid: AEAAJ6mx4OQAAAAAAAAAAAO7_ZEAAAACwQwAAAAAAAW9WABZDgEsha8PjzuhQoevgNvc_ekdywAFgUc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26786 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) >>>> I think we should build directly from org's release tarball at >>>> http://orgmode.org/org-9.0.6.tar.gz instead of using the ELPA >>>> tarball. It somehow feels like we are not building from source but >>>> rather relying on a prepackaged tarball from ELPA. However, Nicolas >>>> Goaziou, the org mode maintainer, >>>> disagrees. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg01395.html >>> >>> I find Nicolas’s argument above (that building from ELPA makes the >>> recipe trivial) pretty convincing. >>> >>> Why would you suggest using the tarball from orgmode.org? >> >> It seems like we are depending on an intermediary (ELPA) instead of >> directly building from the original source. I feel that Guix packages >> should not depend on other repositories (like ELPA). > > I agree with this sentiment, but my understanding is that ELPA is not > really an “intermediary”: package maintainers upload directly there, and > some upload only there. So I think it’s OK. Thoughts? Yeah, it's not a big deal. We could think of ELPA as some kind of "dual hosting", instead of as an "intermediary". 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