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[PATCH] gnu: emacs-org: Update to 20170502.

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From: Vasile Dumitrascu <va511e <at> yahoo.com>
To: guix-patches <at> gnu.org
Cc: Vasile Dumitrascu <va511e <at> yahoo.com>
Subject: [PATCH] gnu: emacs-org: Update to 20170502.
Date: Fri,  5 May 2017 19:43:09 +0200

* gnu/packages/emacs.scm (emacs-org): Update to 20170502.
---
 gnu/packages/emacs.scm | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/gnu/packages/emacs.scm b/gnu/packages/emacs.scm
index 74f0ff8b5..04ceb0e4d 100644
--- a/gnu/packages/emacs.scm
+++ b/gnu/packages/emacs.scm
@@ -3574,14 +3574,14 @@ passive voice.")
 (define-public emacs-org
   (package
     (name "emacs-org")
-    (version "20170210")
+    (version "20170502")
     (source (origin
               (method url-fetch)
               (uri (string-append "http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/org-"
                                   version ".tar"))
               (sha256
                (base32
-                "15415wh3w8d4c8hd7qfrfdjnjb1zppmrkg8cdp7hw2ilyr90c0bn"))))
+                "12inz804j55ycprb2m3ay54d1bhwhjssmn5nrfm7cfklyhfsy27s"))))
     (build-system emacs-build-system)
     (home-page "http://orgmode.org/")
     (synopsis "Outline-based notes management and organizer")
-- 
2.11.0

Message #10 received at 26786-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Arun Isaac <arunisaac <at> systemreboot.net>
To: 26786-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#26786: [PATCH] gnu: emacs-org: Update to 20170502.
Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 02:15:22 +0530

Pushed, thanks!

I think we should build directly from org's release tarball at
http://orgmode.org/org-9.0.6.tar.gz instead of using the ELPA
tarball. It somehow feels like we are not building from source but
rather relying on a prepackaged tarball from ELPA. However, Nicolas
Goaziou, the org mode maintainer,
disagrees. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg01395.html

Message #13 received at 26786 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: ludo <at> gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: 26786 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: arunisaac <at> systemreboot.net, va511e <at> yahoo.com
Subject: Re: bug#26786: [PATCH] gnu: emacs-org: Update to 20170502.
Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 00:06:29 +0200

Arun Isaac <arunisaac <at> systemreboot.net> skribis:

> I think we should build directly from org's release tarball at
> http://orgmode.org/org-9.0.6.tar.gz instead of using the ELPA
> tarball. It somehow feels like we are not building from source but
> rather relying on a prepackaged tarball from ELPA. However, Nicolas
> Goaziou, the org mode maintainer,
> disagrees. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg01395.html

I find Nicolas’s argument above (that building from ELPA makes the
recipe trivial) pretty convincing.

Why would you suggest using the tarball from orgmode.org?

Ludo’.

Message #16 received at 26786 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Arun Isaac <arunisaac <at> systemreboot.net>
To: 26786 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#26786: [PATCH] gnu: emacs-org: Update to 20170502.
Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 09:37:08 +0530

>> I think we should build directly from org's release tarball at
>> http://orgmode.org/org-9.0.6.tar.gz instead of using the ELPA
>> tarball. It somehow feels like we are not building from source but
>> rather relying on a prepackaged tarball from ELPA. However, Nicolas
>> Goaziou, the org mode maintainer,
>> disagrees. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg01395.html
>
> I find Nicolas’s argument above (that building from ELPA makes the
> recipe trivial) pretty convincing.
>
> Why would you suggest using the tarball from orgmode.org?

It seems like we are depending on an intermediary (ELPA) instead of
directly building from the original source. I feel that Guix packages
should not depend on other repositories (like ELPA).

Message #19 received at 26786 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: ludo <at> gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Arun Isaac <arunisaac <at> systemreboot.net>
Cc: 26786 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#26786: [PATCH] gnu: emacs-org: Update to 20170502.
Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 15:47:01 +0200

Arun Isaac <arunisaac <at> systemreboot.net> skribis:

>>> I think we should build directly from org's release tarball at
>>> http://orgmode.org/org-9.0.6.tar.gz instead of using the ELPA
>>> tarball. It somehow feels like we are not building from source but
>>> rather relying on a prepackaged tarball from ELPA. However, Nicolas
>>> Goaziou, the org mode maintainer,
>>> disagrees. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg01395.html
>>
>> I find Nicolas’s argument above (that building from ELPA makes the
>> recipe trivial) pretty convincing.
>>
>> Why would you suggest using the tarball from orgmode.org?
>
> It seems like we are depending on an intermediary (ELPA) instead of
> directly building from the original source. I feel that Guix packages
> should not depend on other repositories (like ELPA).

I agree with this sentiment, but my understanding is that ELPA is not
really an “intermediary”: package maintainers upload directly there, and
some upload only there.  So I think it’s OK.  Thoughts?

Ludo’.

Message #22 received at 26786 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Arun Isaac <arunisaac <at> systemreboot.net>
To: 26786 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#26786: [PATCH] gnu: emacs-org: Update to 20170502.
Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 22:29:49 +0530

>>>> I think we should build directly from org's release tarball at
>>>> http://orgmode.org/org-9.0.6.tar.gz instead of using the ELPA
>>>> tarball. It somehow feels like we are not building from source but
>>>> rather relying on a prepackaged tarball from ELPA. However, Nicolas
>>>> Goaziou, the org mode maintainer,
>>>> disagrees. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg01395.html
>>>
>>> I find Nicolas’s argument above (that building from ELPA makes the
>>> recipe trivial) pretty convincing.
>>>
>>> Why would you suggest using the tarball from orgmode.org?
>>
>> It seems like we are depending on an intermediary (ELPA) instead of
>> directly building from the original source. I feel that Guix packages
>> should not depend on other repositories (like ELPA).
>
> I agree with this sentiment, but my understanding is that ELPA is not
> really an “intermediary”: package maintainers upload directly there, and
> some upload only there.  So I think it’s OK.  Thoughts?

Yeah, it's not a big deal. We could think of ELPA as some kind of "dual
hosting", instead of as an "intermediary".

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