From unknown Sun Sep 14 03:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#26508: another patch for efaq-w32.texi Resent-From: Tak Kunihiro Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 04:45:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 26508 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 26508@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.149223145929046 (code B ref -1); Sat, 15 Apr 2017 04:45:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2017 04:44:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47695 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czFZK-0007YQ-SK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 00:44:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52707) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czFZH-0007Y9-A2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 00:44:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1czFZB-0001HL-1D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 00:44:09 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:48852) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1czFZA-0001H6-Uf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 00:44:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43672) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1czFZ9-00064l-Vm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 00:44:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1czFZ3-00017b-J6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 00:44:08 -0400 Received: from mxl065v65.mxlogic.net ([208.81.65.65]:36948 helo=s14p02o142.mxlogic.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1czFZ3-000119-2N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 00:44:01 -0400 Received: from unknown [42.127.236.175] (EHLO mlsec.cc.okayama-u.ac.jp) by s14p02o142.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.5.0-1675) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id d05a1f85.0.491199.00-397.1053892.s14p02o142.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Fri, 14 Apr 2017 22:43:57 -0600 (MDT) X-MXL-Hash: 58f1a50d176a1e3b-60783b1cb2feeed6989a573d81c33d00d18f51b8 Received: from alml002.ouadm.okayama-u.ac.jp (unknown [42.127.236.168]) by mlsec.cc.okayama-u.ac.jp with smtp id 5c77_5f27_084b15be_01fb_4d63_b7e6_9843a63a5391; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 13:43:52 +0900 Received: from localhost (p256188-ipngn200208tottori.tottori.ocn.ne.jp [180.36.253.188]) by alml002.ouadm.okayama-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B7C64C0924; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 13:43:53 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 13:43:52 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20170415.134352.60114286.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> From: Tak Kunihiro X-Mailer: Mew version 6.7 on Emacs 24.5 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="--Next_Part(Sat_Apr_15_13_43_52_2017_759)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 11 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 4 Rules triggered EDT_SA_AU_PASS=0, EDT_SA_DN_PASS=0, EDT_SA_TS_PASS=0, RV5999=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <5999> : inlines <5807> : streams <1741247> : uri <2409875> X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.2 cv=U+7iNaju c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=8LLPK8U+aGQ6qN8QlyMYtQ==] X-AnalysisOut: [:117 a=8LLPK8U+aGQ6qN8QlyMYtQ==:17 a=AzvcPWV-tVgA:10 a=P8T] X-AnalysisOut: [PXs49BXSqs1Si_x0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=RT3BTomLdKag4f6Tjy] X-AnalysisOut: [AA:9] X-Spam: [F=0.5000000000; CM=0.500; MH=0.500(2017041407); S=0.356(2015072901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [42.127.236.175] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) ----Next_Part(Sat_Apr_15_13_43_52_2017_759)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the most appropriate directory to start with by C-x C-f is, %HOME% directory. I add a paragraph to do so even with emacs -Q. ----Next_Part(Sat_Apr_15_13_43_52_2017_759)-- Content-Type: Text/X-Patch; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="efaq-w32.texi.patch" --- efaq-w32.texi 2017-04-15 07:41:13.130868400 +0900 +++ efaq-w32-b.texi 2017-04-15 13:29:42.148704100 +0900 @@ -320,6 +320,10 @@ @file{addpm.exe}, which is usually installed into the same @file{bin} directory with @file{emacs.exe}. +You can change directory to start with by @kbd{C-x C-f}. Set `Start in' +of the shortcut installed in your Start Menu, for example, to +environment variable such as @code{%HOME%}. + @node Image support @section How do I get image support? @cindex images, installing libraries for ----Next_Part(Sat_Apr_15_13_43_52_2017_759)---- From unknown Sun Sep 14 03:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#26508: another patch for efaq-w32.texi Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 07:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 26508 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Tak Kunihiro Cc: 26508@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 26508-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B26508.149224183619585 (code B ref 26508); Sat, 15 Apr 2017 07:38:01 +0000 Received: (at 26508) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2017 07:37:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47780 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czIGh-00055o-VJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 03:37:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54030) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czIGf-00055a-To for 26508@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 03:37:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1czIGW-000405-VG for 26508@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 03:37:08 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42154) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1czIGW-0003zy-SA; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 03:37:04 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4093 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1czIGV-0003EH-Rp; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 03:37:04 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 10:37:30 +0300 Message-Id: <83a87iglz9.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <20170415.134352.60114286.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> (message from Tak Kunihiro on Sat, 15 Apr 2017 13:43:52 +0900 (JST)) References: <20170415.134352.60114286.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 13:43:52 +0900 (JST) > From: Tak Kunihiro > Cc: tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp > > I think the most appropriate directory to start with by C-x C-f is, > %HOME% directory. Why do you think so? One use case where this could get in the way is if the user uses the Desktop library to recreate their sessions, and has different .emacs.desktop files in several directories; then starting Emacs from one of those directories will recreate the particular session pertinent for that directory (think or a project and its top-level directory, for example). > I add a paragraph to do so even with emacs -Q. > > --- efaq-w32.texi 2017-04-15 07:41:13.130868400 +0900 > +++ efaq-w32-b.texi 2017-04-15 13:29:42.148704100 +0900 > @@ -320,6 +320,10 @@ > @file{addpm.exe}, which is usually installed into the same @file{bin} > directory with @file{emacs.exe}. > > +You can change directory to start with by @kbd{C-x C-f}. Set `Start in' > +of the shortcut installed in your Start Menu, for example, to > +environment variable such as @code{%HOME%}. Once again, this is described in the Emacs User Manual, so any clarifications and additions should go there. In general, we should make most of the information be available in the manuals, rather than in the FAQ. The FAQ is much less organized than a manual, because the FAQ is generally a collection of mostly unrelated howto's and tricks, whereas the manual has a more defined structure and organization, so it's easier to search and is likely to have related info near the one you find. Thanks. From unknown Sun Sep 14 03:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#26508: another patch for efaq-w32.texi Resent-From: Tak Kunihiro Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:43:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 26508 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: eliz@gnu.org Cc: 26508@debbugs.gnu.org, tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp Received: via spool by 26508-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B26508.149224934730952 (code B ref 26508); Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:43:03 +0000 Received: (at 26508) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2017 09:42:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47859 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czKDr-000837-3A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 05:42:27 -0400 Received: from mxl065v67.mxlogic.net ([208.81.65.67]:52660 helo=s14p02o144.mxlogic.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czKDp-00082z-4f for 26508@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 05:42:26 -0400 Received: from unknown [42.127.236.175] (EHLO mlsec.cc.okayama-u.ac.jp) by s14p02o144.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.5.0-1675) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id afae1f85.0.515731.00-388.1085479.s14p02o144.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Sat, 15 Apr 2017 03:42:21 -0600 (MDT) X-MXL-Hash: 58f1eafd54449d19-f1f2651fec19a667971b3e0a6b3ab54bf85914e1 Received: from alml002.ouadm.okayama-u.ac.jp (unknown [42.127.236.168]) by mlsec.cc.okayama-u.ac.jp with smtp id 0fd5_5f14_d3333efa_b6c9_4e5e_81ab_4044d6545c96; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:42:15 +0900 Received: from localhost (p256188-ipngn200208tottori.tottori.ocn.ne.jp [180.36.253.188]) by alml002.ouadm.okayama-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 63CAD4C0924; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:42:16 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:42:14 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20170415.184214.426417894.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> From: Tak Kunihiro In-Reply-To: <83a87iglz9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20170415.134352.60114286.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> <83a87iglz9.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.7 on Emacs 24.5 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 11 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 4 Rules triggered EDT_SA_AU_PASS=0, EDT_SA_DN_PASS=0, EDT_SA_TS_PASS=0, RV5999=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <5999> : inlines <5807> : streams <1741276> : uri <2409977> X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.2 cv=MPYQoIRl c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=8LLPK8U+aGQ6qN8QlyMYtQ==] X-AnalysisOut: [:117 a=8LLPK8U+aGQ6qN8QlyMYtQ==:17 a=ZPSk82zQDygA:10 a=Azv] X-AnalysisOut: [cPWV-tVgA:10 a=-UO-z0zt9coL4XuaD8oA:9 a=UAVRJdkkkM0A:10] X-Spam: [F=0.5000000000; CM=0.500; MH=0.500(2017041502); S=0.321(2015072901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [42.127.236.175] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) >> +You can change directory to start with by @kbd{C-x C-f}. Set `Start in' >> +of the shortcut installed in your Start Menu, for example, to >> +environment variable such as @code{%HOME%}. > > Once again, this is described in the Emacs User Manual, so any > clarifications and additions should go there. I see. I confirm it is shown in `(emacs) Windows Startup'. I was not careful. Sorry for that and I take the patch back. How do you think adding examples in the 1st item of `(emacs) Windows Startup'? When I started to use Emacs on Windows, its configuration was REALLY hard, and examples should have helped. > To control where that is, right-click on the shortcut, select > “Properties”, and in the “Shortcut” tab modify the “Start in” field > to your liking. > To control where that is, right-click on the shortcut, select > “Properties”, and in the “Shortcut” tab modify the “Start in” field > to your liking such as %HOME%, %USERPROFILE%, or c:\Users\USERNAME. From unknown Sun Sep 14 03:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#26508: another patch for efaq-w32.texi Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 10:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 26508 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Tak Kunihiro Cc: 26508@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 26508-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B26508.14922513291444 (code B ref 26508); Sat, 15 Apr 2017 10:16:02 +0000 Received: (at 26508) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2017 10:15:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47874 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czKjp-0000ND-9j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 06:15:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34064) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czKjn-0000My-4x for 26508@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 06:15:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1czKje-0002QG-US for 26508@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 06:15:22 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43517) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1czKje-0002Q3-RG; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 06:15:18 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4937 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1czKje-0002or-7D; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 06:15:18 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 13:15:46 +0300 Message-Id: <83y3v2f031.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <20170415.184214.426417894.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> (message from Tak Kunihiro on Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:42:14 +0900 (JST)) References: <20170415.134352.60114286.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> <83a87iglz9.fsf@gnu.org> <20170415.184214.426417894.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:42:14 +0900 (JST) > Cc: 26508@debbugs.gnu.org, tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp > From: Tak Kunihiro > > How do you think adding examples in the 1st item of `(emacs) Windows > Startup'? When I started to use Emacs on Windows, its configuration > was REALLY hard, and examples should have helped. Please tell which examples you'd like to add there. I have no objections if the examples are useful. 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