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Doing M-x ido-everywhere makes it consistent. Not sure if this is on purpose or not... 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Apr. 2017 um 14:22 Uhr: > > M-x ido-mode > > Then try > C-x C-f > C-x d > C-x 4 f > C-x 4 d > > In the first three cases, IDO will be used, but not in the fourth case. > That's a weird inconsistency. > > Here's a patch (which includes a couple of other commands). --94eb2c0d75da204ab1054d995aaf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Philip= p Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.c= om> schrieb am Di., 4. Apr. 2017 um 14:22=C2=A0Uhr:

M-x ido-mode

Then try
C-x C-f
C-x d
C-x 4 f
C-x 4 d

In the first three cases, IDO will be used, but not in the fourth case.
That's a weird inconsistency.


Here's a patch (which includes a coupl= e of other commands).
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"Thu, 20 Apr 2017 13:45:09 +0000") Message-ID: <87efwmqvym.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26360 Cc: 26360@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) tags 26360 patch quit Philipp Stephani writes: > > Here's a patch (which includes a couple of other commands). Patch looks good, except the test seems redundant to me. I don't think it's useful to test that a command is defined, or testing that specific keybindings have been set (i.e., no need to test again that `defun' or `define-key' are working). Also, it would fail if run from a non-default emacs configuration that has changed the keybindings. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 22 15:24:23 2017 Received: (at 26360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2017 19:24:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34710 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d20dr-0000af-7k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 15:24:23 -0400 Received: from mail-wr0-f179.google.com ([209.85.128.179]:34858) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d20dp-0000aS-WB for 26360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 15:24:22 -0400 Received: by mail-wr0-f179.google.com with SMTP id z52so29413004wrc.2 for <26360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 12:24:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jVDKOZ9r/S1DrMrMUaszuCeA14dNEudjBwWPHg8PpFg=; b=f1OR/mqbezQpUsNGerGfGJN7V75ylWqtDx2QmyfKQVXHs9Pu5qRB+a0eMvqfebnj+o kyh2U6iUYMUdT+WI1LBkLNbvpf/KFAYBybY11JvTpYmKCPfwLH8dIwpqKSchiOf8HISA m5vOyjyt5K/TOirdiH4cqutMjKNjhiow9GOBiZ0XnUYSOfw0mxWouFEVCnqre49Zn7xO rv8myPYeELkOgYiJnFwKBvVnVu6FfLZ/g2YiIWpA6qmSmaLx9TtAZNq2SBAvYLp+FlBq 1Q/tsvl1x5Ywhz5h0hYR377gQYGr+BU1M1YMiSeCW7qTpKSkrTA2E22PkbMEPXL38kWb xpGQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jVDKOZ9r/S1DrMrMUaszuCeA14dNEudjBwWPHg8PpFg=; b=ICK6MA4bhMvUKe94xB9MRaDMF8yM1C8eOOuwpdq94aGMMsZG1cu0hEWU0eVDePfG7N a17n/zqYc3Bkpc4gaSVRKpr+5sygz4sz5pf6FGx6osYpl8X70fqaMZnsnZxwC0HlFgmB 6s/vFJ3eGrcXSfJIgBhDLq0oF6dzYTR9ci97MMIeU75b+5Kpx6btt8/g1Ih/pQe9oWNj m5In4m4QKLVlNfaxjBwym7gsFSFXdbclNTAMijyi9G2PddibxZS9Tok+OtUbi7dokNhH VQQ6c0FGmKXC8aOk+xTFgmRQnhVzc6Bz4Pzqp4gdqEfqkNt14VpHuPSUtAgyLEgsElAd zuRg== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/5lh0HWxc+c2RhUnj485CeORcXDbRfoMoGjLXx7M59v0e2U4T5Q yqFMwIlRJ8NZdHXZ1uz9Cicsm3wjVPqB X-Received: by 10.223.139.146 with SMTP id o18mr2310463wra.175.1492889056281; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 12:24:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87efwmqvym.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> In-Reply-To: <87efwmqvym.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> From: Philipp Stephani Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:24:05 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#26360: 26.0.50; ido-mode doesn't enable IDO for C-x 4 d To: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f403045eade2e39297054dc6519a X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26360 Cc: 26360@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) --f403045eade2e39297054dc6519a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 schrieb am Fr., 21. Apr. 2017 um 05:28 Uhr: > tags 26360 patch > quit > > Philipp Stephani writes: > > > > Here's a patch (which includes a couple of other commands). > > Patch looks good, except the test seems redundant to me. I don't think > it's useful to test that a command is defined, or testing that specific > keybindings have been set (i.e., no need to test again that `defun' or > `define-key' are working). I've used a bit of TDD for this patch, thus the verbose test. Unfortunately the actual functionality is very hard to test :-( > Also, it would fail if run from a > non-default emacs configuration that has changed the keybindings. > True, but the main use of the tests is for continuous integration, where the environment is controlled. --f403045eade2e39297054dc6519a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


<npostavs@users.sourceforge.= net> schrieb am Fr., 21. Apr. 2017 um 05:28=C2=A0Uhr:
tags 26360 patch
quit

Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Here's a patch (which includes a couple of other commands).

Patch looks good, except the test seems redundant to me.=C2=A0 I don't = think
it's useful to test that a command is defined, or testing that specific=
keybindings have been set (i.e., no need to test again that `defun' or<= br> `define-key' are working).

I've use= d a bit of TDD for this patch, thus the verbose test. Unfortunately the act= ual functionality is very hard to test :-(
=C2=A0
=C2=A0 Also, it would fail if run from a
non-default emacs configuration that has changed the keybindings.

True, but the main use of the tests is for conti= nuous integration, where the environment is controlled.
--f403045eade2e39297054dc6519a-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 22 17:38:56 2017 Received: (at 26360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2017 21:38:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34803 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d22k4-0003hb-10 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 17:38:56 -0400 Received: from mail-it0-f46.google.com ([209.85.214.46]:38343) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d22k2-0003hP-TB for 26360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 17:38:55 -0400 Received: by mail-it0-f46.google.com with SMTP id e132so18771289ite.1 for <26360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 14:38:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=b6m9h/b87eFrPp82scEXwQJGyTbbOWlgw/u3tffuSI8=; b=ThB3eoXQWyrqiZgAj9JlE3PClxE3hzkj0NLaTzb8u8IgtLosPbG0z6veno8BGxYz8w AQS83rFNVbu6q28iClxv8TycD+vCaSH3hYyNMlXveYWVdFJuMbJ/Pv/3yr1mMXYowQWN B7DnD0vRFveHZQ9Kl0QjXZKIICLBd1m4WD36FwoOwJV8jA1aGwvIlO+eu8FLCku+V9oA b42P0HAyzpf05WGRSjjlAhiF4GBSCVg9/BBI6st2fBbX1sQhKIgZKBvkxgvP+rkcXHGf YcHCPmePrWGKxo3qrJoisW/hmh191pCoT/tGAparrfrZRpgD5V5BVPARwUE8iq/UXXi7 dvqA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=b6m9h/b87eFrPp82scEXwQJGyTbbOWlgw/u3tffuSI8=; b=DmPnQJHXe1hmEEKEWJVk6vx7SUKOKUiMeXuwokN5DWcOYVJvBKZ7vBMP6CAFlaI5DU 9ct/IVx+pxLap3sPadLQ6ZMMQUFcqn+YsQ5EbyUeAi4eWiAad1OYQcLHekvcQcf07Ki7 wNVueqCntxOh3AQRse09eTBSuRiQAfPsVv7LGprve2FPVvDszXkdNTdmjuSwwWnbS/52 mkqNEdnCWYaW7fkvZNj7YKEgD9XAMbuorknG9lDxiiQuhyTOe6gAMD6FHC/eYPyxfmSb 1jR/HqUYxPBs0NWfVhcESXHndqyRUoBdwi3+4sLN/9RyDdNwbZJr8fw9P3NV6aGl/hAB 3Fmw== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/5BDprEZB15dyok3KqGCiGV7KPulS2kVUTNC/m5+T6E80SOeGWG hGaUABRbsGLqmw== X-Received: by 10.36.228.14 with SMTP id o14mr5590842ith.15.1492897129267; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 14:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zony ([45.2.7.65]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 93sm5763548ioj.58.2017.04.22.14.38.47 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 22 Apr 2017 14:38:48 -0700 (PDT) From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Philipp Stephani Subject: Re: bug#26360: 26.0.50; ido-mode doesn't enable IDO for C-x 4 d References: <87efwmqvym.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 17:40:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Philipp Stephani's message of "Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:24:05 +0000") Message-ID: <87efwkp1dp.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26360 Cc: 26360@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) Philipp Stephani writes: > schrieb am Fr., 21. Apr. 2017 um 05:28 Uhr: >> >> Patch looks good, except the test seems redundant to me. I don't think >> it's useful to test that a command is defined, or testing that specific >> keybindings have been set (i.e., no need to test again that `defun' or >> `define-key' are working). > > > I've used a bit of TDD for this patch, thus the verbose test. I suppose my real objection is that 'make check' is already taking long enough that it makes me reluctant to use it, so I don't really want to see more tests of such marginal utility. But any single test isn't adding a significant amount of time, so I'm not going to insist. In conclusion, feel free to push this; as far as I'm concerned, the decision about the test is up to you. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 23 12:44:17 2017 Received: (at 26360-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Apr 2017 16:44:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36651 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d2KcS-00065R-Op for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 12:44:16 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f44.google.com ([74.125.82.44]:35841) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d2KcR-00065C-P5 for 26360-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 12:44:16 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f44.google.com with SMTP id u65so7268531wmu.1 for <26360-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 09:44:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2iY9hl3rlYLJNIXi0/ShTpMKMIvAjVtEY6tvhUFyOJU=; b=eHke+70hro5BGy/tn2015MYLOQHvGYExQ2kWo/AFUgfHgDwAjQFdMb4a3NSs3q+3CN 12xnLW5FcQP6vgA0YLqsxfaIACcwhWideRQZ+nMDrAkwnPTgR7dtfHojTk4KcwuGqKel 8Md9ZMDECYAhaCL3RgdIii/8IpL5usmn3cnYc2CDbyvKwLkhnbN7TthDJArzAb7dx3uA mNjLCDISkgA7e7tyglOef4qFfdA1BwOBiWCjp9r5iG1oeery877zCRilfAvT5r9okqzx iDbO3DZ/Q8rrmu/30QOmoJb6kHYx/bdkoBlu/7H3DlIHLPeodkSReGoTBH7Ao59xGS3h e22g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2iY9hl3rlYLJNIXi0/ShTpMKMIvAjVtEY6tvhUFyOJU=; b=WuGCkTtQbkUY6+2mFYTnHj+cbzgLrsKV1q8nNQIvBEXvMiNoUKUK4PVy5XvMcp+TLh UIWwq2EU/uGTWxB7mTCCwoVUhYG1433vKdUhBIhjC768IEgyYazAoSYPWzzpBLYwSWRL Y+uFINI2ugz2oKRR+3B/mhuTQz2vmVux8U6AlsPWnmJKxhiYq9Knh97+J4hdCsWIxN4V 085mMB2crjS4US+qPnyrKjC9pzXsVCbd8CNOuvEFmEuGzx2ecNfp9rT5IZVnG1mWIxfm 51m47uTeZKCDjCmIr5bdQkLJ5Ojo8jCUkjviicrMPthydSt+LW4t7a6x67/kiodR2jDp Fn3A== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/6nrUFQo6GKPPURfyYQupMlUFSjXhsUk+xm2P/Je9cT72IpBAyc hcT2Fd10d8l+I9Wh5I4Ujy+gGy8EsA== X-Received: by 10.28.156.13 with SMTP id f13mr6583345wme.44.1492965850076; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 09:44:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87efwmqvym.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87efwkp1dp.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> In-Reply-To: <87efwkp1dp.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> From: Philipp Stephani Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 16:43:59 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#26360: 26.0.50; ido-mode doesn't enable IDO for C-x 4 d To: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114b391a27dc5d054dd83311 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26360-done Cc: 26360-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) --001a114b391a27dc5d054dd83311 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 schrieb am Sa., 22. Apr. 2017 um 23:38 Uhr: > Philipp Stephani writes: > > > schrieb am Fr., 21. Apr. 2017 um 05:28 > Uhr: > >> > >> Patch looks good, except the test seems redundant to me. I don't think > >> it's useful to test that a command is defined, or testing that specific > >> keybindings have been set (i.e., no need to test again that `defun' or > >> `define-key' are working). > > > > > > I've used a bit of TDD for this patch, thus the verbose test. > > I suppose my real objection is that 'make check' is already taking long > enough that it makes me reluctant to use it, so I don't really want to > see more tests of such marginal utility. But any single test isn't > adding a significant amount of time, so I'm not going to insist. > Agreed that it takes very long, but I think good coverage is more important (and the full suite should mostly be run on continuous integration, not manually). > > In conclusion, feel free to push this; as far as I'm concerned, the > decision about the test is up to you. > Thanks, pushed as a1f93c1dfa. --001a114b391a27dc5d054dd83311 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


<npostavs@users.sourceforge.= net> schrieb am Sa., 22. Apr. 2017 um 23:38=C2=A0Uhr:
Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com> writes:

> <npostavs@users.sourceforge.net> schrieb am Fr., 21. Apr. 2017 um 0= 5:28 Uhr:
>>
>> Patch looks good, except the test seems redundant to me.=C2=A0 I d= on't think
>> it's useful to test that a command is defined, or testing that= specific
>> keybindings have been set (i.e., no need to test again that `defun= ' or
>> `define-key' are working).
>
>
> I've used a bit of TDD for this patch, thus the verbose test.

I suppose my real objection is that 'make check' is already taking = long
enough that it makes me reluctant to use it, so I don't really want to<= br> see more tests of such marginal utility.=C2=A0 But any single test isn'= t
adding a significant amount of time, so I'm not going to insist.

Agreed that it takes very long, but I think g= ood coverage is more important (and the full suite should mostly be run on = continuous integration, not manually).
=C2=A0

In conclusion, feel free to push this; as far as I'm concerned, the
decision about the test is up to you.

Thanks, pushed as a1f93c1dfa.=C2=A0
--001a114b391a27dc5d054dd83311-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 23 13:59:44 2017 Received: (at 26360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Apr 2017 17:59:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36729 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d2LnU-0007v5-5A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 13:59:44 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:13173) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d2LnR-0007ur-2G for 26360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 13:59:42 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0DcCwBV6vxY//TvSC1cHQEFAQsBg1SFBoVZhX2QcioBl0mGHgQCAoQLRBQBAgEBAQEBAQFrKIUWAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiicIrguLEgEBAQcCJotJijwBBJ1BlG4BiHyGcpQZNiGBBiYdCC2HSCSJawEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: A0DcCwBV6vxY//TvSC1cHQEFAQsBg1SFBoVZhX2QcioBl0mGHgQCAoQLRBQBAgEBAQEBAQFrKIUWAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiicIrguLEgEBAQcCJotJijwBBJ1BlG4BiHyGcpQZNiGBBiYdCC2HSCSJawEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.37,240,1488862800"; d="scan'208";a="309098541" Received: from 45-72-239-244.cpe.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([45.72.239.244]) by smtp.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 23 Apr 2017 13:59:34 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 14DAE66223; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 13:59:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Philipp Stephani Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master a1f93c1: Add missing remappings for Ido mode Message-ID: References: <20170423164312.31548.76058@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20170423164314.1CF7A2203E@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 13:59:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20170423164314.1CF7A2203E@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> (Philipp Stephani's message of "Sun, 23 Apr 2017 12:43:13 -0400 (EDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26360 Cc: 26360@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > Add missing remappings for Ido mode > Among others, add a remapping for C-x 4 d, cf. Bug#26360. This reduces the effect of ido-everywhere to the point where I wonder if there's any point keeping it. Alternatively, wouldn't it be preferable to not use this patch and enable ido-everywhere by default instead? What are the tradeoffs? Stefan From unknown Fri Aug 15 03:57:33 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. 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Apr. 2017 um 20:00 Uhr: > > Add missing remappings for Ido mode > > Among others, add a remapping for C-x 4 d, cf. Bug#26360. > > This reduces the effect of ido-everywhere to the point where I wonder if > there's any point keeping it. > ido-mode and ido-everywhere are very different: ido-everywhere only changes the completion function, ido-mode has semantic knowledge about the commands. For example, C-x 4 f C-d visits the directory in another window; that is impossible with ido-everywhere. On the other hand, ido-everywhere works for other commands not explicitly covered as well. > > Alternatively, wouldn't it be preferable to not use this patch and > enable ido-everywhere by default instead? > No, as described above, they are very different. > > What are the tradeoffs? > The installed patch solves a concrete problem now. Converging ido-mode and ido-everywhere (and ido-ubiquitous, ibuffer, iswitchb, ...) is desirable, but orders of magnitude more work, therefore infeasible. --001a114b33e474cc74054e74ae07 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Stefan= Monnier <monnier@iro.umontr= eal.ca> schrieb am So., 23. Apr. 2017 um 20:00=C2=A0Uhr:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Add missing remappings= for Ido mode
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Among others, add a remapping for C-x 4 d, cf. Bug#= 26360.

This reduces the effect of ido-everywhere to the point where I wonder if there's any point keeping it.

ido-m= ode and ido-everywhere are very different: ido-everywhere only changes the = completion function, ido-mode has semantic knowledge about the commands. Fo= r example, C-x 4 f C-d visits the directory in another window; that is impo= ssible with ido-everywhere. On the other hand, ido-everywhere works for oth= er commands not explicitly covered as well.
=C2=A0

Alternatively, wouldn't it be preferable to not use this patch and
enable ido-everywhere by default instead?

No, as described above, they are very different.
=C2=A0
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
What are the tradeoffs?

The installed patch solves a concrete prob= lem now. Converging ido-mode and ido-everywhere (and ido-ubiquitous, ibuffe= r, iswitchb, ...) is desirable, but orders of magnitude more work, therefor= e infeasible.=C2=A0
--001a114b33e474cc74054e74ae07-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 10 03:01:50 2022 Received: (at 26360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2022 08:01:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53702 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nI4Oj-0006iK-UY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 03:01:50 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:45214) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nI4Oh-0006cY-Pz for 26360@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 03:01:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=u5/5YDLEOkhTEzODBAp9tAb8wAk+Er3287Znk/VJvSw=; b=DAkYhS2ULl0MmzjpiBN7D6Q6PT /TfCEfdsNihDifjdXzUg1Ij3E2IB5ZV5g6kyeh6ePbZt5drfATG1Kj61MHEZZQrMTRaoYT6/nHzHH cFhHNVUEbPe1/juMQqgsUSg8kC501trX8bSRGJkReVH7tAmvwSCViJeaJ/ZtHPGKwahI=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nI4OY-0004EN-SP; Thu, 10 Feb 2022 09:01:41 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Philipp Stephani Subject: Re: bug#26360: 26.0.50; ido-mode doesn't enable IDO for C-x 4 d References: X-Now-Playing: Melanie de Biasio's _No Deal remixed_: "I'm Gonna Leave You (The Cinematic Orchestra Remix)" Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 09:01:34 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Philipp Stephani's message of "Tue, 04 Apr 2017 14:20:49 +0200") Message-ID: <87y22jb15t.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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