From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 15 18:22:29 2017 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2017 22:22:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57637 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1coHJN-00020S-DN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:22:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51401) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1coHJL-00020D-Lu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:22:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coHJF-0005Pf-N1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:22:22 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:32990) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coHJF-0005Pa-Jz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:22:21 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1coHJE-0003aQ-Js; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:22:20 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Changes to layout of manual/ directory for web pages X-debbugs-cc: Nicolas Petton X-Spook: Biological infection airframe 9/11 Kosovo Etacs munitions X-Ran: u+A^`SoS7N<$k^I|!ti*:gI"bG3N@ET\^G%F,dblW_PEB;c]UI~-?%N.P~>dC0DB$|L>], X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:22:20 -0400 Message-ID: <9qh92u18pv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Package: emacs Apologies for just noticing this. It seems like the layout of the manual/ directory for the Emacs web pages changed in an (IMO) odd way a few months ago, and I'm wondering if it was intentional. There used to be pages like this for all the manuals: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/mairix.html A short index page that links to the various formats for each manual. A few months ago, most of those pages were changed to look like this: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/ses.html No longer an index page, but a duplicate of the html_mono/ version. Was this a mistake? This change left no index pages for the different versions of the various manuals. It looks like (based on the log messages in the CVS repo) this was reported as a bug to the GNU webmasters, and they added some new index pages (emacs-formats.html etc) in an attempt to fix this, but only for the 3 main manuals. Should this all just be reverted? As it stands, I can't see where the html_node/ versions for the non-main manuals are linked anymore, and the (large) html_mono pages are duplicated, and pointed to by default. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 15 18:30:48 2017 Received: (at 26116) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2017 22:30:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57648 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1coHRQ-0002E5-FJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:30:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53576) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1coHRO-0002Dr-Eb for 26116@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:30:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coHRI-0000JC-5y for 26116@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:30:41 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33107) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coHRI-0000J7-2M; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:30:40 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1coHRH-0001lv-Lk; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:30:39 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 26116@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#26116: Changes to layout of manual/ directory for web pages References: <9qh92u18pv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spook: IRA Peking FDA ASPIC Rule Psix Ansar al-Islam BCCI Warning X-Ran: N7:8M (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:22:20 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26116 Cc: Nicolas Petton X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) PS not directly related, but on this subject: the manual/texi/, ps/, and pdf/ directories don't seem to have been updated for 25.1. IIRC admin.el's make-manuals-dist can help with some of that. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 15 18:41:16 2017 Received: (at 26116) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2017 22:41:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57658 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1coHbY-0002TG-ME for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:41:16 -0400 Received: from petton.fr ([89.234.186.68]:51111) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1coHbW-0002T3-QT for 26116@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:41:15 -0400 From: Nicolas Petton To: Glenn Morris , 26116@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#26116: Changes to layout of manual/ directory for web pages In-Reply-To: <9qh92u18pv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <9qh92u18pv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 23:41:06 +0100 Message-ID: <8737eeyxh9.fsf@petton.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=petton.fr; s=mail; t=1489617667; bh=e9CIZ8acIDQURvio32hvCunb2Bsb0O8EyAsnJmcauRE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QZSn99REtj/o1gepvRQEaCDXih73qZqdMF7z1BWAgKQExhIW1JGEL0oDTV1DNZaGs0cDw6DX7mPGB531rjDwvEN2jcsKL6nKGmBUfdQLK+7bEMDrsyMX8w1zfvvQD46j3LEx0gNwHHsAJ74FHSDkqybtw2odkcZDf477qqBXJ24= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26116 Cc: eliz@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Glenn Morris writes: Hi Glenn, > Apologies for just noticing this. It seems like the layout of the > manual/ directory for the Emacs web pages changed in an (IMO) odd way a > few months ago, and I'm wondering if it was intentional. I don't remember doing this, and if I somehow did it, it was unintentional. > Should this all just be reverted? I guess so. 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Hi Glenn, Have you contacted the GNU web admins? Do you know why the manual pages have changed? 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