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[98.118.34.152]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q66sm432659qkd.69.2017.03.14.20.25.29 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 14 Mar 2017 20:25:29 -0700 (PDT) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Jonathan Ganc Subject: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event Message-ID: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 23:25:24 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) In Ubuntu, if I have two frames open and the mouse is positioned over the other frame (i.e. not over the active one), pressing the Alt key produces a event. While this event does nothing in itself, it disrupts things like yank-pop, which no longer works if it is bound to M-y as usual (because instead of the command sequence yank -> yank-pop, we now have yank -> handle-switch-frame -> yank-pop, which gives an error "user-error: Previous command was not a yank"). To be honest, I don't know enough about X-Windows to know if this is emacs' fault or x-windows fault. But it's very annoying. [Tried on Emacs versions 24.5, 25.1, and the 26.0 and Ubuntu 16.10.] In GNU Emacs 26.0.50 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.20.9) of 2017-03-13 built on lgw01-17 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11804000 System Description: Ubuntu 16.10 Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Making completion list... 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But it's very annoying. > > [Tried on Emacs versions 24.5, 25.1, and the 26.0 and Ubuntu 16.10.] Could you try in simple.el to replace (if (not (eq last-command 'yank)) (user-error "Previous command was not a yank")) with (if (not (memq last-command '(yank handle-switch-frame))) (user-error "Previous command was not a yank")) Thanks, martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 17 21:05:07 2017 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2017 01:05:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33066 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cp2nq-0007e2-SV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 21:05:07 -0400 Received: from mail-qt0-f170.google.com ([209.85.216.170]:32777) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cp2no-0007dU-S5 for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 21:05:05 -0400 Received: by mail-qt0-f170.google.com with SMTP id i34so75485028qtc.0 for <26104@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 18:05:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XLz0j5T1TZ79cc5YBHyyMDP20sZjAFEINO8ABA9Hhi4=; b=e6Fxhan54XqpaoGrFViM9SNt0IUO2e+a3YxbuCoxKkg2XnkcA8Fw8KwC3AKMz4UKK3 2+ABDQ/LZFvEPK+G9wCndPYMpNUIhalXW3FL1fsVrfdserYXKIyvT72hwIkGji/rLVXk jEJvMqRINQKTX6IZaRDdnQhF7wankFwnC5Evv4N23hIlvcMqvdeTt+nAfsul8Gc9AJz4 r7xTUDaflhSst6PLqfeXmyVXv1UHMSVDXyl/G6yiXaJgVn8PnAMOtF2OUoVEDwVyksmz TT2qLe9jdG+TGkLHXbMUTa6I5HruRRKv63a+JGTjFkAMkMZSuOv1CWoevOK4k3U59V8N rNMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XLz0j5T1TZ79cc5YBHyyMDP20sZjAFEINO8ABA9Hhi4=; b=S2zru9UlHo2+RT/DL4EoM4YCtOroxZWdJnW4yx7fXO8So5ObdIszMqtpR6W40WAHAH otBOtPoDps3FKAM76zBF9u402+8tB+HOSY2Jj6r+rxmrqZPjPvEj1fLSELfLaWrZkwMg xbWf0PFr/ggiF9Urkiu2zIZ9uTMOqUa2cMOZNqfeZJttrmFXTdZKB8S/NvehWBSyJ9q6 gTtlapuL6fRaOmwlRDPH/dSeUOWR5XhwH8owl5/tdSYiQOKycJoPHkJKWAO9JdWz3QVS DeV1Z2Ee0jiYQYmhgSugvWK2pRY1hIfvaB5dR0v0c4Catbd8LxEVNK5K5TceQ+kBpWsI 28YA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H3ubEECn8LSl5X+RW0GWyHod8cnRLIa4iahqql/HnWw3odkhm0WJBk43L92Ci7yAw== X-Received: by 10.237.36.212 with SMTP id u20mr16089746qtc.290.1489799099077; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 18:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.198] (static-98-118-34-152.bstnma.fios.verizon.net. [98.118.34.152]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 37sm7146464qto.43.2017.03.17.18.04.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 17 Mar 2017 18:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event To: martin rudalics , 26104@debbugs.gnu.org References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> From: Jonathan Ganc Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 21:04:57 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) Hi. That does fix the problem for yank-pop, but I don't think it's a good fix. For example, it let's someone use yank-pop without having used yank if they use handle-switch-frame before. Also, the same issue happens with other commands like dabbrev-expand, which relies on checking what the previous command was. What is the purpose of executing `handle-switch-frame` at all? Maybe there's some way of excluding it from last-command. But again, I don't really understand x-windows well or why that command is being sent. Jonathan On 03/17/2017 03:19 AM, martin rudalics wrote: > > In Ubuntu, if I have two frames open and the mouse is positioned > over the other frame (i.e. not over the active one), pressing the Alt > key produces a event. > > > > While this event does nothing in itself, it disrupts things like > yank-pop, which no longer works if it is bound to M-y as usual > (because instead of the command sequence yank -> yank-pop, we now have > yank -> handle-switch-frame -> yank-pop, which gives an error > "user-error: Previous command was not a yank"). > > > > To be honest, I don't know enough about X-Windows to know if this is > emacs' fault or x-windows fault. But it's very annoying. > > > > [Tried on Emacs versions 24.5, 25.1, and the 26.0 and Ubuntu 16.10.] > > Could you try in simple.el to replace > > (if (not (eq last-command 'yank)) > (user-error "Previous command was not a yank")) > > with > > (if (not (memq last-command '(yank handle-switch-frame))) > (user-error "Previous command was not a yank")) > > Thanks, martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 18 04:19:16 2017 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2017 08:19:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33216 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cp9a0-0001eK-MP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 04:19:16 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:55108) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cp9Zy-0001e2-8F for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 04:19:14 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([213.162.68.84]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MPHrQ-1ctZQB15Oq-004QGo; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 09:19:07 +0100 Message-ID: <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 09:19:04 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Ganc , 26104@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:pFqo6bV5yjOXN7mJdff9wLq6zifN/ugGmXjuvrCS4JFAYmcQny7 y1AAwLuFhK40hVtot+iG+XDAXekSFLfSJArH79XP3rOioACecJzuw3DbAK2Dfh9hxjrVvT8 9val2e2qgEr9MpU+VFqQn2rAQU9irpSjbfm9q4VfChlu+z3g2oO42EgqfLqcnHznhf2yS2t 9vaAn8SllWPVlWraPMWiw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:OOtDioj5kys=:908gIKDyvwjxuJxBu49Iu5 YeOqw1yi4YiuZHd6/gqgzmlEoEjOoPEsbCMT30s9MNrIUnA6ZIFaZyv3PnBPZwWswAZnBxoJp EgYBF5AdwablRk17h8FvInyDRBx/L7XuZ2N/kqpW4rgwiKZnLkhQRKIDw7bTvlT2O2+WnzvMU pT6Y/L58vcShVciEyUF2X11vHuhHYfRR+TXa2vns+31aUwffInseFHBUneTVTU7xekrDvcRwx dSrosJ66zS1whjed0ERzBY30BH31OggyBjas85LlUyhZeIlgq8ATtPmowJFq0BPeyXqfcFCMq +Pe02QTksEJWZDxjvyloY8JWdb1Xxtb1z6irCA1zTBMKHynrX52X4l0UTb3rf8ykq+XL0zGYr pkt/2tTiURwr1L8jjhVsjhwpRsrNwprsjzlq/lcRDgJ26H4/jImY/5iEjvNCvnem/xj3BG3Hq 3/yJumI+iVahNL1ejzQxXKqAZ4OMimcgs7ZlRMt70hxRLi3Oncyu7w8CHG0XVbgjI4vcnMc/4 WjMiw2NBntpttnIDQzYsdIXNFOsESSVkJMLeuFqgQjqENl53o0iNdTMLBUZunpaX18zPEt9Gp S/l9Z13QDAPZkMpXj5gA6pJK/4V1z4CAnE5HEJ/YWpgYMy9w1Vq3txybe5qk9Ieu3IACo7cfD 9sPiVc4vdUGIrgz/I9vRKS/WXGs57GZyO3qwxPL6KNNjl1SY7HG2NJxtfq5T4eVv5UaWyxwAA wTqcgdtVRa5dwD30K24GG9PrkCRpT/UdGC7mX7aoIMt+pTdOJh0/CFaJhQvIzHzk2U8hYjPre dT6NmtWXrQ6SdJI8zhUtrzRKupKFA== X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > That does fix the problem for yank-pop, but I don't think it's a good > fix. For example, it let's someone use yank-pop without having used > yank if they use handle-switch-frame before. Also, the same issue > happens with other commands like dabbrev-expand, which relies on > checking what the previous command was. It wasn't meant to fix anything. I just wanted to know whether bypassing this error would allow =E2=80=98yank-pop=E2=80=99 to proceed wi= thout further problems. > What is the purpose of executing `handle-switch-frame` at all? Maybe > there's some way of excluding it from last-command. But again, I don't= > really understand x-windows well or why that command is being sent. IIUC we don't "send" that command anywhere. We rather put it in the event queue to tell ourselves that we are now in a safe and "historically accurate" place to run Lisp, select that frame's selected window and run some associated hooks. Maybe someone can tell us the real purpose. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 01 05:54:01 2017 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Apr 2017 09:54:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55083 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cuFjN-0007Az-4y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2017 05:54:01 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:62461) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cuFjL-0007Al-G1 for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2017 05:54:00 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([213.162.68.37]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MIMyZ-1cq7vM2xbz-004FEF; Sat, 01 Apr 2017 11:53:51 +0200 Message-ID: <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2017 11:53:47 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Ganc , 26104@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:qUWjvRYNIoO15ObMqYWntejUV6XbYqxhb+xm1Luu4NVjDxcpaez ot1HG9e9kXgcHqBWzI1vCpTWxJ/qhflp6cnzt0P6zh15GoTib45Ro3jmVR1GYcuv6GTe6so zU0rkk/f6cuPu58E5QceR53Wg/PucrFwKW7ZiHxx3UnZ31hUV8YQ03uUX2G2mrd1ZA6tB5n csGo1kdjkk8yDUDbMZF+g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:RVLql7d6KEo=:StzscrHVhyBfJTl6vSrEhQ oF3mH1OZcqRcnVd2Jz6B5GUrSuqu6QXsfR2Mg+fpu4M0VgwM/prw0Y/e2F7KGL67H06o4UjmX QHH5esqLje49SJLFcQW7SGYtjDjvBiz9xzbfLzh4bRWdJySR5SMPV8JhnN4QafyRTyKl20CAU U4E2zuSeyIM8C0s+DLC85XVPea18Ad5IAxVfug+SRnJFLihMHHwX6E6ztWqPf47ZgPcWl0Xvw uqTRaKwAPx6wogWhs1KjycI0IG+xwXjWWkficdlavkAPfCzZboGIbt7Qn+MwSCYxnhwb3sRb1 UQRFhC0iVW19CnQXGGVZxn+TFlUK0Kq5KfuHcJgV4i4FvnbWu52DIzzq6oyi3Uj/MLd1Hxmt8 9OZcgI0vXA+Ytnfs8ss6ENGLmbgeb6WjIL/WpkmDJXlMg1pxUI+r8w0DWokA+jcqZWfeJ4s5p wujtCeWCtnLNVW4I00txE14ImS5G4uBfCbsstbo7pqUMMrIZuI8zwR+VuhWbcG8BtKI0iz9GY hli2kvihn8jAyTiN7RL7004A7sdiJIk2R1JVyJ2nz3uepsb7Ce8x6bhAFDPD4S+OSLYubQ+IW r8FGUBK5MJCDIHIkpKlGGYqRa+O0VyJTNAlmJpeiDDNGwVjL0Gkp7iQYCrnpqWZuoVSqPtiD9 MFzr8P0J3b1hMLOJn5KtLtSqGwcqb24yAFiUOOQ9e12KtNwUFXbl+gDTYVMFF3sflGrGIf9/h DY1Fu2LAOjjkD4h5u51eJ2Fh2VK++5gah8nkfCmWI/Z9/svBBhYimogZjqv0jAy233JxBD3TS Ksb2Jd714xvE4JCzJ6kzIFYsrXmAA== X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) > IIUC we don't "send" that command anywhere. We rather put it in the > event queue to tell ourselves that we are now in a safe and > "historically accurate" place to run Lisp, select that frame's selecte= d > window and run some associated hooks. Maybe someone can tell us the > real purpose. Maybe we should start with finding out how that switch-frame event gets generated. keyboard.c has this /* Try generating a mouse motion event. */ else if (!NILP (do_mouse_tracking) && some_mouse_moved ()) { ... if (! EQ (frame, internal_last_event_frame) && !EQ (frame, selected_frame)) obj =3D make_lispy_switch_frame (frame); internal_last_event_frame =3D frame; and from your description "and the mouse is positioned over the other frame" your problem is likely triggered there. If you set the variable =E2=80=98track-mouse=E2=80=99 to nil do you still= see the problem? Since this probably won't help when you are within the body of a =E2=80=98track-mouse=E2=80=99 form, you would have to trace invocations= of the latter too. If the event is triggered this way we seem to have a contradiction because the doc-string of =E2=80=98handle-switch-frame=E2=80=99 says A switch-frame event tells Emacs that the window manager has requested= that the user=E2=80=99s events be directed to the frame mentioned in t= he event. but in the above scenario the window manager is apparently not involved. In either case it will be debatable whether we should allow the mouse to do anything "significant" in between C-y and M-y. IIUC, the philosophy for M-y to succeed is that your fingers didn't move away from the keyboard after the previous C-y. Otherwise, we'd have to decide whether to allow mouse scrolling or window autoselection in between C-y and M-y as well. Here, with focus follows mouse, leaving a frame with the mouse without entering another one is already sufficient to make M-y fail. And if your window manager has a strict focus policy, the M-y won't even make it to your Emacs frame ;-) martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 03 20:59:52 2017 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Apr 2017 00:59:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59652 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cvCp6-0007zY-6r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2017 20:59:52 -0400 Received: from mail-qk0-f174.google.com ([209.85.220.174]:36748) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cvCp5-0007zM-DY for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2017 20:59:51 -0400 Received: by mail-qk0-f174.google.com with SMTP id p22so129588513qka.3 for <26104@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 03 Apr 2017 17:59:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x/sJ3l95il+r989GfrZIIkujh2pnHGyOplfEVcF5FwU=; b=SMLF17rPa1wM+7mM8yE0wR1RBBFyVxbnP3tHTTI+DBliXNxv6JVNkmsjc+KIcWmCBm W3VJNySJzqT9LPPskYc9FYscGpUKyCKYjPPCBwWt+/9zMYaYUvk4DmsF442zf8LOwXxE 1UAbktrRVG37bugPscNoDyB3ViHufb/vC7li7V5X3mCwB17eRksBlRcZReGHK/oPPRdJ So8hCxjV9yihSCRH8AA7hK++PVeBF38/gcoe34VXzDhNiTt21SWrwLacSczO+QuwkU6c UHAlA3alG/rxsVDMe7HVFbG+duNPL6La35T3xvdu+wsEYiSbU2fltgl+yKn4Fisu2luq 0yoQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x/sJ3l95il+r989GfrZIIkujh2pnHGyOplfEVcF5FwU=; b=HRUFjtXjfgeR+27JnmSQH+9qKgW73pRFYZ7ipvQ5fIi6/N0CSkpGWfSwP8abls9a69 wsm1mL1T7DDFOYly1/dp+zdl67ijvfkb+2qBXlF3xnvC7K8zIr0v/MPLGAk0sCrAoia7 hh27vOCGs/w79zKKnLP8MkMhMWWoMuX6EBDMKxxZngmMbqBQ3eCZGA/s3qpXrDGAQVIM i98u35u+y4TYf7371hXkU2MglkQTYRmJM4a2esOEWg3DB56idr6me2tXmCP88BrccGXk kZQ8u8jwDe5VwcAyS8kbjrAT6gJEp0uYmN8+3Q67sOK9d7e6OeIuvcQBQeORnNpkwSr5 MwsA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H1GvB3WDnNRih5p1FRILcoH+WFdJoQN843W30yM98+LB/TXAtZSVv/nFCiFitkHLg== X-Received: by 10.55.92.3 with SMTP id q3mr19643331qkb.164.1491267585841; Mon, 03 Apr 2017 17:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.200] (static-98-118-34-152.bstnma.fios.verizon.net. [98.118.34.152]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 1sm10773083qtb.40.2017.04.03.17.59.45 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Apr 2017 17:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event To: martin rudalics , 26104@debbugs.gnu.org References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> From: Jonathan Ganc Message-ID: <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 20:59:44 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) Hi Martin, Thanks for your comment. I was a bit slow to respond because I was bit intimidated to start looking at the c code! Sorry. It should be noted that I don't know that actually moving the mouse plays a role here. As long as the mouse cursor is over the other frame, the issue happens, even if I don't actually move it. Setting track-mouse doesn't make a difference. I think trying to figure out where the switch-frame actually gets triggered is a good idea. It looks like I'm going to have to try doing some serious spelunking (at least for me)! As I think you suggest, I want to try to figure out what is getting sent by xwindows vs what is being generated by emacs itself. On 04/01/2017 05:53 AM, martin rudalics wrote: > > IIUC we don't "send" that command anywhere. We rather put it in the > > event queue to tell ourselves that we are now in a safe and > > "historically accurate" place to run Lisp, select that frame's selected > > window and run some associated hooks. Maybe someone can tell us the > > real purpose. > > Maybe we should start with finding out how that switch-frame event gets > generated. keyboard.c has this > > /* Try generating a mouse motion event. */ > else if (!NILP (do_mouse_tracking) && some_mouse_moved ()) > { > ... > if (! EQ (frame, internal_last_event_frame) > && !EQ (frame, selected_frame)) > obj = make_lispy_switch_frame (frame); > internal_last_event_frame = frame; > > and from your description "and the mouse is positioned over the other > frame" your problem is likely triggered there. > > If you set the variable ‘track-mouse’ to nil do you still see the > problem? Since this probably won't help when you are within the body of > a ‘track-mouse’ form, you would have to trace invocations of the latter > too. > > If the event is triggered this way we seem to have a contradiction > because the doc-string of ‘handle-switch-frame’ says > > A switch-frame event tells Emacs that the window manager has requested > that the user’s events be directed to the frame mentioned in the event. > > but in the above scenario the window manager is apparently not involved. > > In either case it will be debatable whether we should allow the mouse to > do anything "significant" in between C-y and M-y. IIUC, the philosophy > for M-y to succeed is that your fingers didn't move away from the > keyboard after the previous C-y. Otherwise, we'd have to decide whether > to allow mouse scrolling or window autoselection in between C-y and M-y > as well. Here, with focus follows mouse, leaving a frame with the mouse > without entering another one is already sufficient to make M-y fail. > And if your window manager has a strict focus policy, the M-y won't even > make it to your Emacs frame ;-) > > martin > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 05 02:58:43 2017 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Apr 2017 06:58:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33133 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cvetv-00021n-1L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2017 02:58:43 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:60380) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cvett-00021X-2u for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2017 02:58:41 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([213.162.68.14]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LaJWs-1cFDLb1DMk-00m3Ec; Wed, 05 Apr 2017 08:58:33 +0200 Message-ID: <58E4958F.5040200@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2017 08:58:23 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Ganc , 26104@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:7L3ui1QxdkmFByPX1AUYNQy36bheWpUr2S83n2FQV3zixqCIla5 WbUQ6jRY636SkJC8IxLQSdTUdns4cH/0WWXRUc3aGqjMywaS72Ngj6SJJ2hUchjQ6tEuTsD 0R4Rd92RVSTGI5E2cT3jBlbjShuM5jGl9F/gnbtfV9B+lpLddl5GAYyP4Ti4YJM8nEYCCl/ nMGojdqZzGAYEnN4O264A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:jViRdou8dF4=:bKy15G7S3L8SD3p3IK5gko svcK+4KDf15ZndTczjFXfghaTQTVlDvykk4z2tYlPREPozxvaIW4eR3Z19LJn2eYGLHTWgxho AzCKIOag3hqjFuu69HS8J8/gHWZEQpOJ+z4ej2SWRdqVEOnG29ZzNueNlU+ibWYE48MaV3X7E /AdTTyYpDi6hC8dulOwIZpDz+I/RXSBtsC0g7MApkPiWpPJQpizeVioBKDr5o0dTVAWSRauav qLAdu88yc2veAX0o8nsFLWXwnpP+TNp5xv+evLg3fYtXz/GYbLeqfx8AHf9NLq07/XocWuIn3 SUcMmdsbPK/bLMdLYb+TwKVIEmWJRuil9BRYvrZO3XH0pqHNlInKZACHzUT8djqJW5rQlO3XY dOMvSghXnNJIKk9k1Y1AfWcT3NQqcnNGAVK1LoRfcTSo+Vxle8iuDo34RQmxUFMalt1AE8zUF hpEdCYt1Y4bb+2Y4nLJLCWJlplqO4SChwUQVrAShEoKWYKgtyF0Moe2Z0f6N8WyMB869PDnJj XSV1re/IGNd86ev3g7nDwvK8Gn1kLd6yh+jZid/XCrQ+ZQfunH4gWjcaunG3vpFtprVEzu7tl N13Alijy1DPzjTA2IB/rtLQz1DJmsa4jLjPQ58SSr9KiZ84kq9ngv29D1Xi/lwyLJLz5ZvM2w BzyV08Z+6fVOrM+ksSQn+Zn6HiFi0I5bKYfdAVTCo604vbbrYKXZzjcMHRsM8Sgn+g67+cYI+ 5+2AfuR0jfbUUWixD92GusrZ1S/TWCVUqIy9ZzLFudpux+ILWxCzW5FxbFu94tqyeiRZc4IFg 45OMf78hFX7lY+sXhySwuoYb4ij3g== X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > It should be noted that I don't know that actually moving the mouse > plays a role here. As long as the mouse cursor is over the other > frame, the issue happens, even if I don't actually move it. Setting > track-mouse doesn't make a difference. =E2=80=98yank-pop=E2=80=99 by itself does not query the mouse position so= "pressing the Alt key produces a event" as you said earlier does not describe what really happens. Someone else must have changed `last-command' to `switch-frame' and it would be essential to find out who. And, as a furthe clue, the event must have come from a mouse move since according to "the mouse is positioned over the other frame" this is the only thing you do in between =E2=80=98yank=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98y= ank-pop=E2=80=99 and if you do not move the mouse in between them the M-y succeeds. Or am I missing something? Now a frame switch triggered by mouse movement can only occur on behalf of two underlying processes: (1) The "window system" when tracking the mouse pointer tells us that it has crossed an edge from (focus-out-hook, mouse-leave-buffer-hook) or to (focus-in-hook) one of our window system windows. (2) Emacs itself is tracking the mouse via `track-mouse' or something the like. As for (1) I mentioned these hooks because they would allow you to put a function on them in order to track what triggers your `switch-frame' event. As for (2) you would have to find all users/callers of `track-mouse', inject some extra code in it to track its use and recompile/reevaluate the users. Simple put some code there that beeps like (add-hook 'focus-in-hook 'ding) and look what's happening. All this would enable you to find out who generates a switch-frame event although your mouse movements were apparently innocuous enough to never motivate such an insertion. If and when you find out the reason of that insertion, we might be able to try to (optionally) prevent it. > I think trying to figure out where the switch-frame actually gets > triggered is a good idea. It looks like I'm going to have to try doing= > some serious spelunking (at least for me)! As I think you suggest, I > want to try to figure out what is getting sent by xwindows vs what is > being generated by emacs itself. If the above approach is inusfficient we indeed might have to add some extra code to make_lispy_switch_frame in order to find out what happens. In that case you have to be able to build Emacs on your machine. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 06 23:56:22 2017 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Apr 2017 03:56:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35643 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cwL0X-0008Q0-TI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2017 23:56:22 -0400 Received: from mail-qt0-f178.google.com ([209.85.216.178]:34504) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cwL0V-0008Pm-GL for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2017 23:56:19 -0400 Received: by mail-qt0-f178.google.com with SMTP id c45so10469645qtb.1 for <26104@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 06 Apr 2017 20:56:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ipqcvOsq6CJbrmu2B1XfzKr7ADGmpJttfNbNrU3xLd8=; b=AEYA5vUAKvnwZuJFenLCiLt6NlPBUIuuXPgw4O3eeJ5/8eHBccvEHpPiMsQw/kIGBG m1e/hq40PoxnrEhu/zDCt0eeb6w889BEnjEDOBxQWIGHwGK0QplUBNbSL0I+He4XrR2/ KmaiTBfjW2E3WGMO8g/8+s4WGw66OjdipguuuWDA5wAWdIXFt4M1V27C0sLlYM39DJ7W 9O5kDjY9Grwje6ty76RgOXm02fsA2M/DKMXUHzil3vHZ5zh6v3D+x6elj01laXS+Ee6O VunGsfcWySzHEuN5TlxTEBokmUGTOyQnvPYpM2M2PrhGe0ipAiK4DoZ1V9lqygrLWKcc 9LIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ipqcvOsq6CJbrmu2B1XfzKr7ADGmpJttfNbNrU3xLd8=; b=IFmoWukk39A8EwOZrd2RayTmXINesgO6eHdjp9RzY4p/fFGqqJxPXyOX0nSMLK4tFd tFrtkvBi35n89IYmKs1f9UywDGcDU/a5WQs7zydzAqVf8cVxSjaX8KbwEG69Onsrezbr Mr0/8qBobdufD0sh5FTi2+EMFFSy9Oh/iHcBk+s306iuQ2BMp2PJKtOhvVMdjPC6aFJt 2x+VZMeXxiOknAnZXQbW1yHoVJweCl12lK7gQ6SR9CFfyIxWSFWhVg3OqQ5Qeg4kSv15 N49szRpuAg+5dKUT+PIjVdgqY/1wdMLw6LzlSKG/ZF3oF0R1l538yk/SFAlq3w1v5BFB oa1Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H1ZNYBU3KwgdIwM2o7HS8Jba2BGyFNchYUGiTBukBCBO83BOpFgbDLQphqT0c5BpQ== X-Received: by 10.200.55.57 with SMTP id o54mr41756148qtb.78.1491537373779; Thu, 06 Apr 2017 20:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.198] (static-98-118-34-152.bstnma.fios.verizon.net. [98.118.34.152]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 1sm2309325qty.69.2017.04.06.20.56.12 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Apr 2017 20:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event To: martin rudalics , 26104@debbugs.gnu.org References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> <58E4958F.5040200@gmx.at> From: Jonathan Ganc Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 23:56:11 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <58E4958F.5040200@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) On 04/05/2017 02:58 AM, martin rudalics wrote: > > ‘yank-pop’ by itself does not query the mouse position so "pressing the > Alt key produces a event" as you said earlier does not > describe what really happens. Someone else must have changed > `last-command' to `switch-frame' and it would be essential to find out > who. And, as a furthe clue, the event must have come from a mouse move > since according to "the mouse is positioned over the other frame" this > is the only thing you do in between ‘yank’ and ‘yank-pop’ and if you do > not move the mouse in between them the M-y succeeds. Or am I missing > something? switch-frame is produced when the Alt key is pressed (as soon as it is pressed, i.e. before the 'Y' is pressed). i can verify this by running 'read-event`, which triggers and produces switch-frame as soon as Alt is pressed. Conversely, the event is still generated even if I disable both my mouse and trackpad, the only things which can produce mouse motion. > > If the above approach is inusfficient we indeed might have to add some > extra code to make_lispy_switch_frame in order to find out what happens. > In that case you have to be able to build Emacs on your machine. > I'm not averse to rebuilding emacs (I built the current version I'm using), if it could help. I was trying to explore emacs input. One thing I've realized is that xev (i.e. if I monitor emacs using 'xev -id ...') does not see most keys (e.g. alphanumeric keys, Ctrl, shift) sent to emacs but it does see when Alt (or the Windows key) is pressed. So some keys are "special". I wish I knew about how emacs set this up. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 07 01:56:24 2017 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Apr 2017 05:56:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35661 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cwMsi-00031S-Gr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 01:56:24 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:55516) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cwMsg-00031F-FG for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 01:56:23 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([213.162.68.119]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lt1yI-1byaPd0b1O-012VZ0; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 07:56:15 +0200 Message-ID: <58E729FC.9050305@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 07:56:12 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Ganc , 26104@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> <58E4958F.5040200@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:CysMpPhFIhekwUjGQIi6b31HyF4pJ2dxYiV9q/Qv6Pee3jEqLuq Tix4ZWe2tsKbxhRKZyzh52iD1x3UKS7e0xLlF5F20E2HjsVSsp9tOYWmJkg/8+/2qGF4Tg0 id5xkBn2EHlPtQBMfMH2xMJ7aH5m7k4QO3z3DLPgiDFvXgot1AzcnK3uyE4WuhkITJnzqA+ Uv5g6Md9LSMAr/WAWO8Dw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:9W+nf46wGzo=:gbS+hRpE/RiXvYjR6Xj9FF Cjutp0uKXuJggi41eZCzDAvSn0EpiY2Ilf/rLZ6ZY0BuKvOZ6htm1PsrytS0zsOg7xgzYGiMQ fXzkPmcU1JOaymv9u549LDzbH0nOWM+1lGui0pcAGL6cIKeoJR9DElc4kfww+5MebfQKxx/FX mUu1Of5uEG3maU2olighjHT2tB3l1vX+jPpkn5jkBK2Z5Xt9pGvz6umxh74H6pYuij1a2ol9S ZljSiNaCBSleGXfxyp1y6RYYL6t9WkI2m9j3J0W/7oQxIBQz/2dxrjKsZPU9aY4XNiwwCoKv8 O1aVp6j/WgyBTuJeA2QE+VDE/2CqZGCNKa+0Zp+mbh3OtyNY+2ni244uJjg1JwZy5K/+uqV6X VJTUPQn3fH1Yu1kpKs96tVuq4ff7nNtPbVbLiod+jMDTjcDFVMUbi6mquiGTsiAZicz3cfa22 +gM6PltxyIjgcG6Vip2IkXwgl4J53ZZLzaTE8A3cu3OU1Ramp8AdRO2sTrdgFtBaaL4WAT0ea B35oDAxHvEHLZriHPhZ/wXC5jsNABoqUpcKvmjIzmMkaFtqyMMjM3Uw7BOsulOCNy/W77+cAn svDSBwm3PNgh3QSDo/ot2xQK2BrRkpYa+EeNpLWWkjMWIVex+HATVnx96gIdPUSXKDzBCws52 EnW9CsctSGpxP/FrnbJK2rmEdgsMaKmNylGGJwZGqZw/Dr/CshkQsdItjwINOAGZQE94MnLBu lb6VMyOu7ExNViJBMgmOWa3Sj73laM/elt+83kVpA+pYvdQL7RS6okfjvUXLsUWgp86kAfPG/ zMOhGftqzLRK9Br2FmSykXeWuSPMQ== X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > switch-frame is produced when the Alt key is pressed (as soon as it is > pressed, i.e. before the 'Y' is pressed). i can verify this by running > 'read-event`, which triggers and produces switch-frame as soon as Alt > is pressed. Conversely, the event is still generated even if I disable > both my mouse and trackpad, the only things which can produce mouse > motion. Sorry for the silly question: Earlier you said that In Ubuntu, if I have two frames open and the mouse is positioned over the other frame (i.e. not over the active one), pressing the Alt key produces a event. and now you say that "the event is still generated even if I disable both my mouse and trackpad". How can you position the mouse when you disable it? martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 07 11:27:47 2017 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Apr 2017 15:27:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36701 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cwVnf-0001nu-95 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 11:27:47 -0400 Received: from mail-qk0-f179.google.com ([209.85.220.179]:33029) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cwVnd-0001nh-Bd for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 11:27:45 -0400 Received: by mail-qk0-f179.google.com with SMTP id h67so65906857qke.0 for <26104@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 08:27:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=acu7IEYfPRJTy00Y5/h5B9LjGYyeRVZztVwnL7lCDpM=; b=WLazz6dj4geYHGUZvXdn63HAv+SwWos7sFKTWlNF7pFnzEEYWhJUy2HsDRoVInOnW/ NZf/55M9K6ZEDY/UKLlba/gVpxjkPTxN5VBGZsH2yfgNh6G1SScJ6u4AJxuwBh3ktlHH kBEaMQebSk/G3UGeDJIrhUzNt3RQimpUtKsSEat0b5+IhagvzpyMvIuiZlYKJqrFEU+M 9i78AqA5HQPQNUsoYQS/f4sJJYvNLWPiUTVN94APJhLc2h6ace6q8SRygrUNQ5Da0UZU rPY4wLJaA3r8pV+ql+t+94M2AN7Boqhn8W2w2LSpG2WaSJK6oMJOETK26TuY0lJqpqZ0 O1lQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=acu7IEYfPRJTy00Y5/h5B9LjGYyeRVZztVwnL7lCDpM=; b=W+GmuCIqHpI6aDaZfnc3MjE9MgMFJIj5C7JYBYmM4twVig6VNCDuTeVtvzcZHU8vzV ki4N7VMe+q/8vXurSDoKV+hW6gO32uRYQ1OgZCuPityzwR+Tfx92IiNH5/bbuBZ8Gecz AksxyoNejVMRhppM9l7WIkxlByJdonmTpFFZFGDGfZhvNm3AIKLq++yjbT8sbil1t3iC XZ7zKhcLYvKRX6wTIPWmcmYnU8xuH8P/qwA237Gn6TXflHtpFt3h3ph/JuwOeSqXbdtY hAcafMnuIbVaUUjPMaPvDxvHiK1U8DNazXWrXfVIa56MMrlZVLWYjztE9I19QfvdGNgs rspw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H2U722S9wjbDVovoMdiwwA4bD3NFXf+xrfUXKdBkyKWGuQCtjyvCLwgkt0/6+tZQw== X-Received: by 10.55.167.17 with SMTP id q17mr26317916qke.193.1491578859873; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 08:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.10.171] (c-65-96-175-120.hsd1.ma.comcast.net. [65.96.175.120]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z4sm3219225qkc.68.2017.04.07.08.27.39 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 07 Apr 2017 08:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event To: martin rudalics , 26104@debbugs.gnu.org References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> <58E4958F.5040200@gmx.at> <58E729FC.9050305@gmx.at> From: Jonathan Ganc Message-ID: <573b3947-b433-33b8-2f2a-be39ef1fd3f9@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 11:27:38 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <58E729FC.9050305@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) > and now you say that "the event is still generated even if I disable > both my mouse and trackpad". How can you position the mouse when you > disable it? > > martin Magical incantations! ;-) I positioned it and then used `xinput disable ID` for both my mouse and trackpad. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 08 05:00:12 2017 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Apr 2017 09:00:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37066 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cwmE7-0006nt-PH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2017 05:00:12 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:61624) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cwmE5-0006mo-V5 for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2017 05:00:10 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([213.162.68.40]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M7Yhz-1cCFPR3S23-00xNzq; Sat, 08 Apr 2017 11:00:02 +0200 Message-ID: <58E8A68E.70603@gmx.at> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2017 10:59:58 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Ganc , 26104@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> <58E4958F.5040200@gmx.at> <58E729FC.9050305@gmx.at> <573b3947-b433-33b8-2f2a-be39ef1fd3f9@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <573b3947-b433-33b8-2f2a-be39ef1fd3f9@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070000000500050309090308" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:snvU3fGmOKuG+pTw/BnU6PYr9Nh+HVLoa0OsSJm9WpgSzBlrTzo APFQLIhicfq+gVir8zjBlcoEaeoBbXs0GckFtJuxGj9yEdSRBAx4uTdxWAMLS+8ruM04ueO u9OTlFnUc0atXkRNjLi1qPQC72YOuA3r5fzI5ewoCwZS5yk/cDsxmZ28U4oKJN4xcdwkBwN KFrcou5iQydCpeXDuT/Yg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:pyTg9urAt8o=:8exn20367dodzo/DGRIzJw TeBP6LALDRAw4yb4KswLZi2PhiEfar2rymeaOp2lHmzG1DqM1qVrhs8UGr1Se7BNb3utnSb/p A78vlVze6ZEmsmzRCw0Gjj46GQ1bWrG1laWYqLvM3L/Fzbcimuplriv4AQRvquVFQRKq86ZEm dQlWVPErOg5xaf7Fu++xEdBG90nw/f1e/M1C3JuZz0cD3fAX4q6ZXAchR3SW8BBxUi5uoSDqU 9Buaj3vYsxGNwGHc1uUI0T3fQqciNADMJNI3MjVXYg2Mx9ms5NVkFevnEurZrOGlbVIPZuN+z SKTBVAgbZeR9IbJzTR02XpiI+vuKLO5RHFMAjZtWG4aIYWrO8OIXJBdBo9SHqjoBzhhf/DIyK +uUYnGkXAw4gHRLB5iASriNyboxAu2kAYJBlPrNBVw5nZ0MXCTK0Rt8jV8KqHAu5lDq7rrawf AUAgr8UxdNz4RC54zgwOajknZDtV9l46awaXOv7bzf3AQChbgRI1TPdN9Akdloba9cAertlHN 16UKmnb5lpt7x3u9h4u0N+jAUaifme3sQGxsVvs7bTPZ4f22mv3cDuNDj9w72YGUl6inqQB7n u+i9TATDhPTglj9bJdjnvFJpVBxDVg0lFRm5c1AnvSzE7Osp3lKdZOMwvOMWPFUWnmCNzr3D3 pM/GRaFk3o+TTHYvfQKLXyRSnmeG2Cqdv/Qp21W+aUunasWWFCbaM2vW+6tHxC4dtdrdE6Giw nwpO33AgT2Gn4syzSY5urm00SDeiAzBMNUe8ZDIEFFqKbH0oFco+JOoedKiz3PI8wFaQ4Fj5B Xa1CKpZ X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070000000500050309090308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Magical incantations! ;-) I positioned it and then used `xinput > disable ID` for both my mouse and trackpad. And what would make you that sure that the `handle-switch-frame' event was not inserted before you disabled xinput? Anyway, as a first attempt try to apply the attached patch to keyboard.c and tell me what the value of the variable `lispy-switch-frame-source' is when you try your M-y. martin --------------070000000500050309090308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; name="keyboard.c.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="keyboard.c.diff" ZGlmZiAtLWdpdCBhL3NyYy9rZXlib2FyZC5jIGIvc3JjL2tleWJvYXJkLmMKaW5kZXggM2U1 MDE0Mi4uZjNhOWRjZiAxMDA2NDQKLS0tIGEvc3JjL2tleWJvYXJkLmMKKysrIGIvc3JjL2tl eWJvYXJkLmMKQEAgLTM0ODEsNiArMzQ4MSw3IEBAIHN0YXRpYyBMaXNwX09iamVjdCBrYmRf YnVmZmVyX2dldF9ldmVudCAoS0JPQVJEICoqa2JwLCBib29sICp1c2VkX21vdXNlX21lbnUs CgogCSAgaWYgKHNpbmdsZV9rYm9hcmQgJiYga2IgIT0gY3VycmVudF9rYm9hcmQpCiAJICAg IHsKKwkgICAgICBWbGlzcHlfc3dpdGNoX2ZyYW1lX3NvdXJjZSA9IFFrYmRfYnVmZmVyX3N0 b3JlX2J1ZmZlcmVkX2V2ZW50OwogCSAgICAgIGtzZXRfa2JkX3F1ZXVlCiAJCShrYiwgbGlz dDIgKG1ha2VfbGlzcHlfc3dpdGNoX2ZyYW1lIChldmVudC0+aWUuZnJhbWVfb3Jfd2luZG93 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[98.118.34.152]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f65sm5843888qkf.34.2017.04.08.15.42.11 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 08 Apr 2017 15:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event To: martin rudalics , 26104@debbugs.gnu.org References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> <58E4958F.5040200@gmx.at> <58E729FC.9050305@gmx.at> <573b3947-b433-33b8-2f2a-be39ef1fd3f9@gmail.com> <58E8A68E.70603@gmx.at> From: Jonathan Ganc Message-ID: <2ecfca67-9713-7a0d-7e56-b5801242f782@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 18:42:11 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <58E8A68E.70603@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) On 04/08/2017 04:59 AM, martin rudalics wrote: > And what would make you that sure that the `handle-switch-frame' event > was not inserted before you disabled xinput? I used both yank and then yank-pop after I disabled the xinput. But also, I can see that read-event gives switch-frame every time I press alt. But you are clearly correct in that the mouse/cursor plays an important role, since it only happens when the cursor is in a particular position. > > Anyway, as a first attempt try to apply the attached patch to keyboard.c > and tell me what the value of the variable `lispy-switch-frame-source' > is when you try your M-y. > > martin I changed keyboard.c and rebuilt emacs. The value for lispy-switch-frame-source is focus_in_event. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 09 02:37:57 2017 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Apr 2017 06:37:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38823 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cx6U0-0001Nt-SU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2017 02:37:56 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:50690) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cx6Ty-0001Nd-5i for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Apr 2017 02:37:54 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([213.162.68.6]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MFdPZ-1ctXhP3BXZ-00Eb7x; Sun, 09 Apr 2017 08:37:46 +0200 Message-ID: <58E9D6B5.9020808@gmx.at> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2017 08:37:41 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Ganc , 26104@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> <58E4958F.5040200@gmx.at> <58E729FC.9050305@gmx.at> <573b3947-b433-33b8-2f2a-be39ef1fd3f9@gmail.com> <58E8A68E.70603@gmx.at> <2ecfca67-9713-7a0d-7e56-b5801242f782@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2ecfca67-9713-7a0d-7e56-b5801242f782@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:RoyQAjcOpTrIx30YeElBeR6p/8ijHeFWHO69kkNca8qkArPG97K C8eXJ6ROZuzsFsLuHBeydajxf8sdAvl2mWp4y1TiJP4G8HAjrpt6wuASLxSIPzs7JLltKgA sCiiEKdMbj9OwQPlpy9mznPze4rwCIl6l+m6LL82X1fEDUJVJtCxEpvz8R3Ll/rp3fLD3np /P+bN08g8M7NIgwMpj0sA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:coxo9JYYmX0=:5K6oLmnqulEOaL/DHjZ4Mp E2JJPksSQjY4rs1JEalAfLv4x4Ag555b9IIvU1XeVcEYfvF4dGj4Ik5rcR3cbA6K5cKxUpO/Q CTQRAgP7SXDr3/lQ3RLKC8W5bfdi0Rtw4E5e1nTR2q8d2lw3Cq1y7XYRA3ZnmqyikK9BT7Yzn u2QYACf2NVz3ijmtHzZQfg1NgmBiVxp7GB5pvLxzTLolew/2IoPfskzvPsEB643ASIf9uSKsM Bq5nfhd5y90Ik6iTkMumH0/Vz+Qo3Kx4aMexoNGPDh8VdtykHsDTmMkFrPM9ma796nDBaCMaF vzQCC/KHt6GMJjqBzH8wtZrwXIxVqdTGBpadgOIcJ2sv9uwvqhG7xXcvrFffRO7lxFI6zpHWE +XXIQ5eYVqrjr1PELBvqyGU5oyRWDwbAFHPtzFKv40UjVCsfzAUWewP3IRR3w51Y1kc/gJwg4 nv1KenBz2t77wl6WLk3Y13qU+TuGTY8wdIXGiSmsvGU/zZnx0yzZkruvh2VJ3KtfY2LLXLb9Y jR2Icny/0CkxLMvKdciACtWq8B/RiASX3jOKxIgKauED/C+q8d57g3HMn8jm85ZL6Ebr/mB50 XiHFPXRa9NQpflgbDLXrZUpBdKREKmtQI7Xj99q6Wc+oVkPycasFnGCIxZrwY8xEx4U03ru7C zmYBGhlGgUrkD2VrkcGyZ0X8Nfa2TF6M8k8NVI3Ev8qsOUiO4CXjlyNMTeFXqcTupspim4Q3a 8XtzbieaNLY1aCdsAggBlPAHrQZEwJiQ1TN/VOsaDzLF94UmcbswbFOBeXUI8w822/SwmhL2n +RMSH8d7VhwDfhOK7dKj5nNVQNQgQ== X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > I changed keyboard.c and rebuilt emacs. The value for > lispy-switch-frame-source is focus_in_event. Same here. So I suggest you look into your window manager's focus policy. It's focus follows mouse on my machine which evidently produces a focus-in event each time the mouse moves to another frame. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 15 05:42:03 2017 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2017 09:42:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47856 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czKDS-00082X-Rf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 05:42:03 -0400 Received: from mail-qk0-f181.google.com ([209.85.220.181]:33906) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czKDS-000823-5u for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 05:42:02 -0400 Received: by mail-qk0-f181.google.com with SMTP id p68so79954324qke.1 for <26104@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 02:42:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GLi7M3JvfmHuXbfmYfUvKrvyBHDUMNa1faIHdyh1pG0=; b=qy7RWAe8FDGEB3RqYQ1z5q1GpowGWflsyDcVUgtnDKJKf/NBIdSQm0J638+ivvXJzo hCHxdKBQ1pBYa8KYwN0YhZT5W6JAqe2MjUI/f6sGDtmnHXxm/Mn5VtmbdVPYKPvJQqxT zuNmDCrc+CdvkCoJHcrVTle7dCmNabDjI1zn0uEBK94BSp1DILGxotI8Xw1UnK46USHt AXIIAj99rua9Q9VcAxFE2DIONz+Bm7K6M/R05BGaCQWpLBQ1UefVXNTHabxe4yzPXEsH bDJoXlK1JVR352WYnM2TM++8cPu6aE6ZbHGKnV560nlgTJi717zTbcXT9WGuVY9okrF1 coAg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GLi7M3JvfmHuXbfmYfUvKrvyBHDUMNa1faIHdyh1pG0=; b=oeuMdnkD9z5ET/+9EPNBVebScvE4+rcyR7jCU/5JQDoDWHqs+6zBIWGDtsRe2dv3d2 G5+BvXxmx33yxz5MLxZQmZiOGBEcZHQoBQWkMukErfYG9n2dcV3nKgZQ6FqXDJBpRcbx Fbst8No6pXg9R3gGlNMzt30BJ4dDBc5wpz4RkGEUS4I0ZgUbq3p21zybdGc3xngpaRzz KnG7tkoPZZxSbOC+jTLINd2w0L1QEr9bX83DxxT9k8MULmtyERRZeVaZWxCNYonb3hCr E3K0iITGMVXT1LyqM0Uu/383u3QxGtS22qx4GUmdv887jk3OzPsRQvz//vcovDpa2f5w buIQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/5gII3goE4opidzczzPscwKmT1OCkeLF+sB0cafZQRJbggjpNP/ yDWI0dwRRl9EnQ== X-Received: by 10.55.109.198 with SMTP id i189mr1449429qkc.242.1492249316582; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 02:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.200] (static-98-118-34-152.bstnma.fios.verizon.net. [98.118.34.152]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q15sm2899022qtc.1.2017.04.15.02.41.55 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 15 Apr 2017 02:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event To: martin rudalics , 26104@debbugs.gnu.org References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> <58E4958F.5040200@gmx.at> <58E729FC.9050305@gmx.at> <573b3947-b433-33b8-2f2a-be39ef1fd3f9@gmail.com> <58E8A68E.70603@gmx.at> <2ecfca67-9713-7a0d-7e56-b5801242f782@gmail.com> <58E9D6B5.9020808@gmx.at> From: Jonathan Ganc Message-ID: <616065aa-d965-6038-940d-15b4e3aa2e66@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 05:41:54 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <58E9D6B5.9020808@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) You were right. I found the setting that causes the issue. In CompizConfig (i.e. apt package compizconfig-settings-manager), go to Ubuntu Unity Plugin, and then, under General, disable "Key to show the menu bar while pressed". The problem goes away. (The irony is that I dislike the menu hiding and had it disabled anyway). At the very least, if menu hiding is disabled, so should this key shortcut. I will let the Ubuntu people know. Thanks for your help in tracking this down. Jonathan On 04/09/2017 02:37 AM, martin rudalics wrote: > > I changed keyboard.c and rebuilt emacs. The value for > > lispy-switch-frame-source is focus_in_event. > > Same here. So I suggest you look into your window manager's focus > policy. It's focus follows mouse on my machine which evidently produces > a focus-in event each time the mouse moves to another frame. > > martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 15 10:50:28 2017 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2017 14:50:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49092 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czP1w-0002Jf-0m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 10:50:28 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:52308) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czP1u-0002JQ-9K for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 10:50:26 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([213.162.68.80]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LyA2L-1bwwN440bV-015d0r; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:50:20 +0200 Message-ID: <58F23327.5000709@gmx.at> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:50:15 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Ganc , 26104@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> <58E4958F.5040200@gmx.at> <58E729FC.9050305@gmx.at> <573b3947-b433-33b8-2f2a-be39ef1fd3f9@gmail.com> <58E8A68E.70603@gmx.at> <2ecfca67-9713-7a0d-7e56-b5801242f782@gmail.com> <58E9D6B5.9020808@gmx.at> <616065aa-d965-6038-940d-15b4e3aa2e66@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <616065aa-d965-6038-940d-15b4e3aa2e66@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:0DhPlSNwFqUG91atwywpCdxbmYPq/U/ymymTOAuHGr7oPgYprdj KZq4lUBlVWNXW4ho+z12w299OOptHCzj1P+2CoUAmJpNJ6rRnskQJrwwxI47ZgPxH3tDusN aLaJTaCRv/aWSSz5C90y9eaA30tscqSGnY5uQ7Pn1PbywF7K62ohyrrFL+lb9LosMDRqi5s pPJw4gV/pv7OkFCq6yqdA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:3mZ2I/I+80I=:meikdCPqP0IZDxI/5cSxvM i+tz7QQ8KRASoT/1ZdwQtv5Onwfg2pqflV5E5/rmP/yxawSC/MUZIQK4P2nygPJ8JAh0dhEHE QRJKmn6tToVvDiA9qa7f7cx8CHa4rHLsJ68VH2WN7DW1DMpzMScW4Xz1c8ycjhnsyXiLQJTZg jgeW98RwBqTfO/PT+zQ0l93vcHBCUfdQ4RKHb9CI/dehJPPXqyCKnrc61K6OvyPH7v5ejcLs2 XKmjp8tTogai/flLGZAU4op+YCX2dxPKDMBoeE5VP87ueROthMeWswNGfdvz4s6j4zHrrMkcl unb0/8klxvM6OTjvz8f+OeczjY2Nf0xlkH4Wjq2NuwW+20ivqXxJv0/QOj4AOhDAsNxMSwSlO CVzqUE8dUgspvdqjkyvTVrVAMcWdnwHglwbcyZcPWJ+mbYK9YoFQ+AqAL3m96Hms18927HRFB DTOBUUadCi/9S7CHzy9fNY9YbO6YR1Xcv1g3mpXd86RiyR0Y3UgRQdEQVagWJvyMdRjXJR0iv CtPS1vp5ikFQ1Ml8VK63s8LJl7iGiudD/pi9w4T+ZGB3cdgoF7KNONsV0VooLmlVpKqlKnpGa +ksIYbHdNFTvO3zpn1ise59SCEKQMMv11qysTB49KbFhoRKVavTfAzAfL70G4tliHbiiNv848 wIO3rCblKdN5HXStIquEl/8EWP4tukaaQtn4Zc4IUNDU26vkxsEbFiGEFT8dXBNTLAA91mss8 y98OyujPINoyxAwdsMY2nXkWoyjS6PjwY9CtU45tCvaW6dVY9NogvRsfws6/9yE01nQzugu1N yTaa0O5boKGJPc7mv8aqDgjXxjczg== X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > I found the setting that causes the issue. In CompizConfig (i.e. apt > package compizconfig-settings-manager), go to Ubuntu Unity Plugin, and > then, under General, disable "Key to show the menu bar while > pressed". The problem goes away. (The irony is that I dislike the menu > hiding and had it disabled anyway). Hmm.. I don't understand well (not using Compiz). Which key is that and why would it cause a focus-in event when moving the mouse? Or is that key the key and pressing it causes a focus-in event? If so, we should mention that somewhere, either in the manual or in PROBLEMS. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 15 11:11:09 2017 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2017 15:11:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49101 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czPLw-0002nQ-VA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 11:11:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54828) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czPLu-0002n3-M1 for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 11:11:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1czPLm-0003pQ-5g for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 11:11:01 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46248) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1czPLm-0003pF-1p; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 11:10:58 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1579 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1czPLl-00062X-9L; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 11:10:57 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:11:24 +0300 Message-Id: <83r30tg0yr.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: martin rudalics In-reply-to: <58F23327.5000709@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:50:15 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> <58E4958F.5040200@gmx.at> <58E729FC.9050305@gmx.at> <573b3947-b433-33b8-2f2a-be39ef1fd3f9@gmail.com> <58E8A68E.70603@gmx.at> <2ecfca67-9713-7a0d-7e56-b5801242f782@gmail.com> <58E9D6B5.9020808@gmx.at> <616065aa-d965-6038-940d-15b4e3aa2e66@gmail.com> <58F23327.5000709@gmx.at> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 Cc: jonganc@gmail.com, 26104@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:50:15 +0200 > From: martin rudalics > > > I found the setting that causes the issue. In CompizConfig (i.e. apt > > package compizconfig-settings-manager), go to Ubuntu Unity Plugin, and > > then, under General, disable "Key to show the menu bar while > > pressed". The problem goes away. (The irony is that I dislike the menu > > hiding and had it disabled anyway). > > Hmm.. I don't understand well (not using Compiz). Which key is that > and why would it cause a focus-in event when moving the mouse? Or is > that key the key and pressing it causes a focus-in event? Heh, it looks like they copied the MS-Windows (mis)feature, whereby tapping the Alt key activates the menu bar, which would indeed require a focus-in event; seems like some GNU/Linux distros have joined this lunacy. In the MS-Windows build, we have w32-pass-alt-to-system to control that. (Sometimes it seems to me like GNU/Linux developers have no GUI ideas of their own, and all they can do is copycat from MS-Windows.) > If so, we should mention that somewhere, either in the manual or in > PROBLEMS. Perhaps we should generalize w32-pass-alt-to-system instead? Assuming an application can control this behavior on GNU/Linux, that is. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 15 15:39:28 2017 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2017 19:39:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49384 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czTXc-0006I2-DS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 15:39:28 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:59837) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czTXa-0006Hj-4M for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 15:39:26 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([213.162.68.102]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M6AbC-1c5zDD1znG-00y9pQ; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 21:39:17 +0200 Message-ID: <58F276E1.1000405@gmx.at> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 21:39:13 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> <58E4958F.5040200@gmx.at> <58E729FC.9050305@gmx.at> <573b3947-b433-33b8-2f2a-be39ef1fd3f9@gmail.com> <58E8A68E.70603@gmx.at> <2ecfca67-9713-7a0d-7e56-b5801242f782@gmail.com> <58E9D6B5.9020808@gmx.at> <616065aa-d965-6038-940d-15b4e3aa2e66@gmail.com> <58F23327.5000709@gmx.at> <83r30tg0yr.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83r30tg0yr.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:bguGRuMPgc7U2V8MjG243uUdF+5PA34tRgHbekfojNfTjAwmjkK LYJUp5RAHZSKEmwNZ0JjVyjkRBmLNU24wLnmxJYmU45eBZl6MscQwY5LVED29cTxm0JQ8bG KZ/GZ1KWb7bz9b7MLkud5L+OKi/Km4Z7dkBX1pNx8suRGblVd7oho+JcnkTfRp4YfS+smO/ jC1YS2Jb0eI4hZc4kC6/g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:YaazpKJ3Rz0=:itAPEyeq5zjnZkK7wJNb7x aBznBgTCyGF9t2hs4l8e62Fg4SDptFlYv6jlThT7lwOYtm/xcI+Z2uLuT/bVvbuE3USkHCrPj zKbgBA0L6IUBluwCCBorVf0BekW17QcqOIB0ZShX6zbAuUxj345Xj6ermT7bRMzmAvRRJ/EIb Cas06LsAt3YDo/YX5T1sFnCRD+O3RdZwh9/C5phSoVvv6piPbMqZandIeWE4TwovwK6GbGXU0 Ldky847tygjwbRf2MGj5rPe4mHV8Vz5OH4CkHbVciLXqT+qON5RLxFkV3OAQMIWB3qiOTUrFT qW/e+fgo9++nY/PCdDkyV2D//Ut5EN4lonUiC72zVwNAKb7ip049egcPAa0deIDCkWeQjQafu 2djcDXyOHXyU4k+kk4KAuhbzVUg1jzFvXsaQW9WTLYV4aT7fomE+Y41X7SIfMXX99JIAN5jIj ppR7o/sUt2AQFmh6CLPKwh/LE3emeMx6dRNcGrdDciToUTW6ib8L+UlCihxmWwoJPG9WRsHjL fI3uWvI5QONkQZKqaLAloahEgtknMdFyFBATzGGUZ7xSgo2AvnsI6B3V+1RQIrVAP2NfPcYHn OuqprZ9v2n2Y9g7k/kOoIvLzTHgQTT7dKN+FKTHXs21YGgywqCN4N6kHl9H91bYcF04YEV9d4 4AwqBNj5szWiaLZ5t6W0ImOdYiM/vsZtBUrCap6rTdDNodk9FAsPuo6xVj+5c6JUlRFwOtO+8 KSXBSK4FUBMMI32EGnYZFFloJ5b9HVARqHyRFaIIcL3x6+mVUhgtEhxmJMBkKWLOBBCwvH/uz fHa6mi+lhletn3b8AJnKOoM3DGZ7A== X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 Cc: jonganc@gmail.com, 26104@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > Heh, it looks like they copied the MS-Windows (mis)feature, whereby > tapping the Alt key activates the menu bar, which would indeed require > a focus-in event; seems like some GNU/Linux distros have joined this > lunacy. In the MS-Windows build, we have w32-pass-alt-to-system to > control that. If I'm not mistaken, on MS-Windows you can activate the menu bar of a window via the Alt key iff that window has focus already. I still fail to understand how pressing the Alt key could transfer focus to another window. > Perhaps we should generalize w32-pass-alt-to-system instead? Assuming > an application can control this behavior on GNU/Linux, that is. 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[98.118.34.152]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o91sm3748876qte.42.2017.04.15.13.23.44 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 15 Apr 2017 13:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event To: martin rudalics , Eli Zaretskii References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> <58E4958F.5040200@gmx.at> <58E729FC.9050305@gmx.at> <573b3947-b433-33b8-2f2a-be39ef1fd3f9@gmail.com> <58E8A68E.70603@gmx.at> <2ecfca67-9713-7a0d-7e56-b5801242f782@gmail.com> <58E9D6B5.9020808@gmx.at> <616065aa-d965-6038-940d-15b4e3aa2e66@gmail.com> <58F23327.5000709@gmx.at> <83r30tg0yr.fsf@gnu.org> <58F276E1.1000405@gmx.at> From: Jonathan Ganc Message-ID: <9f6f3cf5-77b6-3280-387d-084df287090f@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:23:44 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <58F276E1.1000405@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 Cc: 26104@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) I'm currently trying to understand the issue better, but I think Compiz Settings just allows to access to more settings (I think Compiz is part of Unity; on my computer, there's always a compiz process). So I think it is actually preventing Ubuntu from sending the event when Alt is pressed, not intercepting Alt, i.e. it doesn't actively do anything. On 04/15/2017 03:39 PM, martin rudalics wrote: > > Heh, it looks like they copied the MS-Windows (mis)feature, whereby > > tapping the Alt key activates the menu bar, which would indeed require > > a focus-in event; seems like some GNU/Linux distros have joined this > > lunacy. In the MS-Windows build, we have w32-pass-alt-to-system to > > control that. > > If I'm not mistaken, on MS-Windows you can activate the menu bar of a > window via the Alt key iff that window has focus already. I still fail > to understand how pressing the Alt key could transfer focus to another > window. > > > Perhaps we should generalize w32-pass-alt-to-system instead? Assuming > > an application can control this behavior on GNU/Linux, that is. > > If Compiz can, Emacs should be able to do that too. > > martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 15 16:33:43 2017 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2017 20:33:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49431 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czUO7-0007ZC-68 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:33:43 -0400 Received: from mail-qt0-f195.google.com ([209.85.216.195]:32901) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czUO6-0007Z1-4t for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:33:42 -0400 Received: by mail-qt0-f195.google.com with SMTP id c45so14728766qtb.0 for <26104@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 13:33:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZkgTDBbl9rsLnffueXaruVR/87pv0iLvsoK7tt53RdY=; b=M06fgF1r5y7xbV8udca6d+Pal0UQ4UqJKmAZmblTnCeSkIRjOYxmRYEmrwng3zkeIr fVsDxPYyD6TNMQdjL8muWeUz9eSe8FYparMCWDNCReib0fQtbzJgBAhTxWhTSwU2t2fI UOPHhkzvWMnPeq6rwf5z0Yyamc9RcjMH5jQY8NW+u4+4vx5hUacmFV2RxHo7KNa+8z1z ZXop7Bp07sp23cKZXp2IdyPuYbwLv4zlIKT97YND8hop/SCMpaDqZ1X9NmIFDJZyRKx4 A+5phE+kxzkK62M/gaoiQzFQHm1E1OPkT1GZ7bMSvIXHmvE55U1eoAKT70eQ1qfOMAPw wPIg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZkgTDBbl9rsLnffueXaruVR/87pv0iLvsoK7tt53RdY=; b=ALxTQJ0mWFNlyyVaXX2w9B7Ii1v9cKwjWX6sGYn1MyNHFyYdPgZy5rBwmD+6HdA3i7 Xu0eDo+FXP9vhxBgEZXuKiBTJE//NDf9TgQfgIrPD+zsj1qtJKGT6g7ShvdheN1exmjO qcxkMm6cXwly34cNt/P/tuuAeBUxOP3zOsjYQa0hCm+rdU1v8Q5CXuIkjgweBrxTgHVT DfP+/yaGT5F0ut48jHLVsfmb0Pg3lAO2WNlz+GCWhcPDzIklCJla94ft3aW6V4uCijrW jOdbttpzMklC19WDDdzTe7itYITgOuWyxKJHwYfGPNUJd77EUUH9WXN4sVDJ/K1Zr4Ip kUEw== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/7crzOyDyKaISPk2v0eBd6/RrIRfqmeFvoSgEIS2gsvZr2VwVpG 59leOrGkcxlA6A== X-Received: by 10.200.37.16 with SMTP id 16mr3491505qtm.293.1492288416704; Sat, 15 Apr 2017 13:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.200] (static-98-118-34-152.bstnma.fios.verizon.net. [98.118.34.152]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q15sm3803863qtc.1.2017.04.15.13.33.36 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 15 Apr 2017 13:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event To: martin rudalics , Eli Zaretskii References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> <58E4958F.5040200@gmx.at> <58E729FC.9050305@gmx.at> <573b3947-b433-33b8-2f2a-be39ef1fd3f9@gmail.com> <58E8A68E.70603@gmx.at> <2ecfca67-9713-7a0d-7e56-b5801242f782@gmail.com> <58E9D6B5.9020808@gmx.at> <616065aa-d965-6038-940d-15b4e3aa2e66@gmail.com> <58F23327.5000709@gmx.at> <83r30tg0yr.fsf@gnu.org> <58F276E1.1000405@gmx.at> From: Jonathan Ganc Message-ID: <29dd8123-845e-ccdd-0d5a-f069f932d9a0@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:33:35 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <58F276E1.1000405@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 Cc: 26104@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) In particular, setting it in Compiz Settings is equivalent to running this: dconf write /org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/unityshell/show-menu-bar "'Disabled'" On 04/15/2017 03:39 PM, martin rudalics wrote: > > Heh, it looks like they copied the MS-Windows (mis)feature, whereby > > tapping the Alt key activates the menu bar, which would indeed require > > a focus-in event; seems like some GNU/Linux distros have joined this > > lunacy. In the MS-Windows build, we have w32-pass-alt-to-system to > > control that. > > If I'm not mistaken, on MS-Windows you can activate the menu bar of a > window via the Alt key iff that window has focus already. I still fail > to understand how pressing the Alt key could transfer focus to another > window. > > > Perhaps we should generalize w32-pass-alt-to-system instead? Assuming > > an application can control this behavior on GNU/Linux, that is. > > If Compiz can, Emacs should be able to do that too. > > martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 16 03:15:35 2017 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Apr 2017 07:15:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49690 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czePH-0007Xh-9M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2017 03:15:35 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:56021) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1czePE-0007XS-UV for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2017 03:15:33 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([213.162.68.14]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M2nfO-1c9c550SQA-00sfnn; Sun, 16 Apr 2017 09:15:25 +0200 Message-ID: <58F31A05.6010805@gmx.at> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 09:15:17 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Ganc , Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> <58E4958F.5040200@gmx.at> <58E729FC.9050305@gmx.at> <573b3947-b433-33b8-2f2a-be39ef1fd3f9@gmail.com> <58E8A68E.70603@gmx.at> <2ecfca67-9713-7a0d-7e56-b5801242f782@gmail.com> <58E9D6B5.9020808@gmx.at> <616065aa-d965-6038-940d-15b4e3aa2e66@gmail.com> <58F23327.5000709@gmx.at> <83r30tg0yr.fsf@gnu.org> <58F276E1.1000405@gmx.at> <9f6f3cf5-77b6-3280-387d-084df287090f@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f6f3cf5-77b6-3280-387d-084df287090f@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:q3BLE9JYHIZbYJ0ckwvxbOJMLMptw8A1wfYAp6SZ6bHltr/Uf3E /xTcKJM8W08XZyoti9VxBhq6G1gRKxmpCkRm2ERhP+so04SiY4GXBrqPLyVuFjT0LAU3dWv /ldG57FnGVetlaf+w/VMCoczIDovcXM8c9Y5Q2EaJaroZk+EBeYDuQoJVA1AwF0K5uc+49t svu0b1l5858S35NsX1qCA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:9/chVoFTUKY=:oSzh5/q8c3HV6jlO0TFWU4 u96VqKI8uJuO+a0LxKPASHq/0ZB6CkzZT9RjgKZL+f84go8hxrgW/vJ5xqbfoyhv2LNcHAgyX 85GpB1pcnaCOswZl61tchqPfFoDHi8BN6Ut2I12puDxrjUURr3hO8Ap3sQ2EzlU6vpRPyCcFY D2Xtxv3MQ0dRUdLxwf/u1TCq14kKZA9ZvC5VGlN8fWRa8wLJ8fIww0qVvXasQaGX+r9pQEuIr Ok1GT4K7Y+EtCwVYdRW7e9KaPtEQM0nJwNJ13jp/IiLuD+WWUkN02pGKzWzEa7gj2B3LnCizt ddL3I35KEGjyy6Hw6E0DiOFevxiaKfV+9q0zgp8e5uk4NFWu2xZennbhK0yNpqAmONEjEbtaM TohlgFOPFmbCEr0spJNkhrmc7/Dqfh1eaty6CswgMQB45xhS1hRsNuFsjvURpI7/XeFEAaByt DuxXEJ3jR5YN4okURku9Pj8plvtycDxeF0qw6E14n8GPiDyN6pHJ6xINJn7f3LA7UY/4boy96 hruFryM18pMqaao40j9hXReElO/WsvIDudui850fv/oT5JxQG57LFRt5CDTH4i6q5Xumwjj6E IUBer/c7c/eAFIfHPCtRBRDGZXwvd4o49Tyr/6PKWSG53a/DCSGlUQ+Gz07KCVc5cQ3/H8wU9 i2DediOEnk/5Kt5oOCtPVv4zwIsIYHiBrOG8bGfxibYl2iA5qQw7A8m5N8Ew+BOciBRh36L6s Oo7LPxp2bCGfi58Psl3ea3z1KVqqzk9X0YOE0Xm3tHovgUbLulfWX5vtGCGBsq7n/jTY6S2kd 5WSOk/v0VJPegezwYYeO2pwpLVAIw== X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 Cc: 26104@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > I'm currently trying to understand the issue better, but I think > Compiz Settings just allows to access to more settings (I think Compiz > is part of Unity; on my computer, there's always a compiz process). So > I think it is actually preventing Ubuntu from sending the event when > Alt is pressed, not intercepting Alt, i.e. it doesn't actively do > anything. Sounds reasonable. So in order to intercept Alt we would have to look into how Compiz does it. Till then we should tell people that and how they can do it via Compiz (or any other window manager able to do the same). martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 21 11:16:04 2022 Received: (at 26104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2022 15:16:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50745 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nhYXL-000824-Q3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 11:16:04 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:57862) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nhYXJ-0007vM-Ek for 26104@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 11:16:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=TTq0C4RLl7boNer/1tGE3+NtjeyWCV2bK7ueSQIElyE=; b=aGHWGHb5DiyVYR2r70F5moumpN ntSSs+73Gu82i1lX2FoYyoKt8d2ZCpPeVdyWa//dx+Q0HFMlpNy8awpnpdsOab1p93prpqe1/aVaO JhA7Sb8LZ98cVBc5mdb758mRu6gJv0hIWTiA13eQ2i7e+gUJOEPik6Ybf+7iAU8PPrq4=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nhYXB-0006XZ-20; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 17:15:55 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Jonathan Ganc Subject: Re: bug#26104: 26.0.50; In Ubuntu, having mouse over other frame cause Alt key to produce a event References: <3517ed20-78a5-f7ea-7594-eeb18c95e90e@gmail.com> <58CB8E1C.7080104@gmx.at> <58CCED78.8050904@gmx.at> <58DF78AB.9010603@gmx.at> <1d493e40-8d0d-a393-081f-55e32bef0857@gmail.com> <58E4958F.5040200@gmx.at> <58E729FC.9050305@gmx.at> <573b3947-b433-33b8-2f2a-be39ef1fd3f9@gmail.com> <58E8A68E.70603@gmx.at> <2ecfca67-9713-7a0d-7e56-b5801242f782@gmail.com> <58E9D6B5.9020808@gmx.at> <616065aa-d965-6038-940d-15b4e3aa2e66@gmail.com> X-Now-Playing: Porridge Radio's _Every Bad_: "Give-Take" Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 17:15:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <616065aa-d965-6038-940d-15b4e3aa2e66@gmail.com> (Jonathan Ganc's message of "Sat, 15 Apr 2017 05:41:54 -0400") Message-ID: <87bkwu4gd3.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Jonathan Ganc writes: > I found the setting that causes the issue. In CompizConfig (i.e. apt > package compizconfig-settings-manager), go to Ubuntu Unity Plugin, and > then, under General, disable "Key to show the menu bar [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 26104 Cc: martin rudalics , 26104@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Jonathan Ganc writes: > I found the setting that causes the issue. In CompizConfig (i.e. apt > package compizconfig-settings-manager), go to Ubuntu Unity Plugin, and > then, under General, disable "Key to show the menu bar while > pressed". The problem goes away. (The irony is that I dislike the menu > hiding and had it disabled anyway). > > At the very least, if menu hiding is disabled, so should this key > shortcut. I will let the Ubuntu people know. (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved at the time.) Skimming this bug report, it seems like this problem was caused by an external setting, and there wasn't much we could do about that on the Emacs side, so I'm closing this bug report. 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