From drew.adams@oracle.com Sun Mar 8 23:55:57 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 9 Mar 2009 06:55:57 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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I had never heard of this variable. I see now that it is a defvar, even though it seems to be documented as a user "flag". Seems like it should be a defcustom. In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-02-01 on SOFT-MJASON Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' From lekktu@gmail.com Mon Mar 9 05:16:11 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 9 Mar 2009 12:16:11 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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([118.100.161.108]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y3sm922912tia.3.2009.03.10.07.51.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Jason Rumney Message-ID: <49B67E35.4070201@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:50:29 +0800 From: Jason Rumney User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Adams , 2608@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2608: 23.0.90; `w32-use-visible-system-carat' should be a defcustom References: <005f01c9a084$114a0280$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <005f01c9a084$114a0280$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Drew Adams wrote: > A visually impaired new Emacs user just asked a question about this > variable on help-emacs-windows@gnu.org. I had never heard of this > variable. I see now that it is a defvar, even though it seems to be > documented as a user "flag". Seems like it should be a defcustom. > It was originally intended as a user option, but code was added to automatically set it according to whether screen reading software is in use. So it should just do the right thing. Documentation probably needs updating to reflect that, and the fact that it is only useful for screen reading software, as the user seems to have gotten the idea that it might help them even though they don't use such software - in fact Emacs drawn cursors are far more useful, as they can be configured to be more or less visible as the user requires. From drew.adams@oracle.com Tue Mar 10 08:01:23 2009 Received: (at 2608) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Mar 2009 15:01:23 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from rgminet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2AF1K9T013025 for <2608@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:01:21 -0700 Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rgminet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n2AF2O2H009637 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:02:25 GMT Received: from acsmt704.oracle.com (acsmt704.oracle.com [141.146.40.82]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n2AF1E6v032178; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:01:15 GMT Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.72.130) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:01:09 +0000 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Jason Rumney'" , <2608@debbugs.gnu.org> Cc: "'Tomas Valusek'" References: <005f01c9a084$114a0280$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <49B67E35.4070201@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#2608: 23.0.90; `w32-use-visible-system-carat' should be a defcustom Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:01:06 -0700 Message-ID: <00a301c9a191$0c5fe1f0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <49B67E35.4070201@gnu.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acmhj7ET0fNnxkwISgGEex4UTal/TwAAIdaQ X-Source-IP: acsmt704.oracle.com [141.146.40.82] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.49B680B7.037E:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 > From: Jason Rumney Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:50 AM > > A visually impaired new Emacs user just asked a question about this > > variable on help-emacs-windows@gnu.org. I had never heard of this > > variable. I see now that it is a defvar, even though it seems to be > > documented as a user "flag". Seems like it should be a defcustom. > > > > It was originally intended as a user option, but code was added to > automatically set it according to whether screen reading > software is in use. So it should just do the right thing. > Documentation probably needs updating to reflect that, and the > fact that it is only useful for screen reading software, as the > user seems to have gotten the idea that it might help them even > though they don't use such software - in fact Emacs > drawn cursors are far more useful, as they can be configured > to be more or less visible as the user requires. I see. Yes, I think clarifying this in the doc would help. And perhaps add a link to a manual section about customizing the cursor, for people such as the OP who don't use screenreaders. Beyond this bug fix, perhaps it would be useful to add a top-level Emacs-manual section about Accessibility (aka help for the disabled) with links to pertinent sections of the manual that might be of special help. CC'ing the OP. Thx - Drew. From jasonrumney@gmail.com Wed Mar 11 06:21:00 2009 Received: (at 2608-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Mar 2009 13:21:00 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from acsinet12.oracle.com (acsinet12.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n4P0laYm002476 for <2608@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 24 May 2009 17:47:37 -0700 Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by acsinet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n4P0lD9f008219 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 25 May 2009 00:47:15 GMT Received: from abhmt008.oracle.com (abhmt008.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n4P0lU9U015965; Mon, 25 May 2009 00:47:31 GMT Received: from dradamslap1 (/98.210.250.59) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 24 May 2009 17:47:26 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: <2608@debbugs.gnu.org>, "'Jason Rumney'" Cc: "'Tomas Valusek'" References: <005f01c9a084$114a0280$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com><49B67E35.4070201@gnu.org> <00a301c9a191$0c5fe1f0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Subject: RE: bug#2608: 23.0.90;`w32-use-visible-system-carat' should be a defcustom Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 17:47:34 -0700 Message-ID: <45CEE162BB3345B4B3E0F9C6DF797ED5@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <00a301c9a191$0c5fe1f0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Thread-Index: Acmhj7ET0fNnxkwISgGEex4UTal/TwAAIdaQDs5w0SA= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: abhmt008.oracle.com [141.146.116.17] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A010204.4A19EA9F.012D:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 > > From: Jason Rumney Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:50 AM > > > A visually impaired new Emacs user just asked a question > > > about this variable on help-emacs-windows@gnu.org. I had > > > never heard of this variable. I see now that it is a > > > defvar, even though it seems to be > > > documented as a user "flag". Seems like it should be a defcustom. > > > > > > > It was originally intended as a user option, but code was added to > > automatically set it according to whether screen reading > > software is in use. So it should just do the right thing. > > Documentation probably needs updating to reflect that, and the > > fact that it is only useful for screen reading software, as the > > user seems to have gotten the idea that it might help them even > > though they don't use such software - in fact Emacs > > drawn cursors are far more useful, as they can be configured > > to be more or less visible as the user requires. > > I see. Yes, I think clarifying this in the doc would help. > And perhaps add a > link to a manual section about customizing the cursor, for > people such as the OP > who don't use screenreaders. > > Beyond this bug fix, perhaps it would be useful to add a > top-level Emacs-manual > section about Accessibility (aka help for the disabled) with > links to pertinent > sections of the manual that might be of special help. > > CC'ing the OP. I don't see this as fixed in 23.0.94.1. I'm looking at both the doc string and the Emacs manual section about this variable. From jasonrumney@gmail.com Sun May 24 18:11:22 2009 Received: (at 2608-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 May 2009 01:11:22 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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([61.4.103.130]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k41sm18127018rvb.47.2009.05.24.18.11.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 24 May 2009 18:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Jason Rumney Message-ID: <4A19F017.2090104@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:10:47 +0800 From: Jason Rumney User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Adams CC: 2608-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2608: 23.0.90;`w32-use-visible-system-carat' should be a defcustom References: <005f01c9a084$114a0280$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com><49B67E35.4070201@gnu.org> <00a301c9a191$0c5fe1f0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <45CEE162BB3345B4B3E0F9C6DF797ED5@us.oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <45CEE162BB3345B4B3E0F9C6DF797ED5@us.oracle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Drew Adams wrote: > I don't see this as fixed in 23.0.94.1. I'm looking at both the doc string and > the Emacs manual section about this variable. > Drew, can you please stop reopening bugs because the solution is not EXACTLY what you want. At least explain what it is that is missing so we can have a clue what it is you are not happy with. From drew.adams@oracle.com Sun May 24 19:14:44 2009 Received: (at 2608-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 May 2009 02:14:44 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from acsinet11.oracle.com (acsinet11.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n4P2Eep8018149 for <2608-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 24 May 2009 19:14:41 -0700 Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by acsinet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n4P2F8xh006967 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 25 May 2009 02:15:09 GMT Received: from abhmt004.oracle.com (abhmt004.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n4P2EZPD012520; Mon, 25 May 2009 02:14:35 GMT Received: from dradamslap1 (/98.210.250.59) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 24 May 2009 19:14:31 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Jason Rumney'" Cc: <2608-done@debbugs.gnu.org> References: <005f01c9a084$114a0280$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com><49B67E35.4070201@gnu.org> <00a301c9a191$0c5fe1f0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <45CEE162BB3345B4B3E0F9C6DF797ED5@us.oracle.com> <4A19F017.2090104@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#2608: 23.0.90;`w32-use-visible-system-carat' should be a defcustom Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:14:48 -0700 Message-ID: <6944CD445192443382A1235CE79F97C4@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4A19F017.2090104@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Acnc1c/Y8GBzObzCSViCm/pZYrRrhAACBqnw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: abhmt004.oracle.com [141.146.116.13] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A010207.4A19FF07.0174:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 > > I don't see this as fixed in 23.0.94.1. I'm looking at both > > the doc string and the Emacs manual section about this variable. > > Drew, can you please stop reopening bugs because the solution is not > EXACTLY what you want. > > At least explain what it is that is missing so we can have a > clue what it is you are not happy with. Can you explain how the doc responds at all to the bug report? From that discussion: > > It was originally intended as a user option, but code was added to > > automatically set it according to whether screen reading > > software is in use. So it should just do the right thing. > > Documentation probably needs updating to reflect that, and the > > fact that it is only useful for screen reading software, as the > > user seems to have gotten the idea that it might help them even > > though they don't use such software - in fact Emacs > > drawn cursors are far more useful, as they can be configured > > to be more or less visible as the user requires. > > I see. Yes, I think clarifying this in the doc would help. I don't see that clarification. I see nothing that would dissuade a user from trying to set this etc. See the original confusion reported by the user with sight problems. The point is to clarify things to avoid the confusion he had. > And perhaps add a link to a manual section about > customizing the cursor, for people such as the OP > who don't use screenreaders. From unknown Mon Jun 23 05:58:15 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: $requester Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:24:25 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # A New Hope # A log time ago, in a galaxy far, far away # something happened. # # Magically this resulted in the following # action being taken, but this fake control # message doesn't tell you why it happened # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator