From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 12 18:39:56 2017 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Feb 2017 23:39:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37540 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cd3kK-0004Cm-8F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 18:39:56 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43882) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cd30F-00036o-Cx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:52:19 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cd309-00039S-1X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:52:14 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:55079) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cd308-00039O-Uf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:52:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34852) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cd306-0003o7-N3 for bug-gzip@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:52:12 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cd303-00038x-N3 for bug-gzip@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:52:10 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:62204) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cd303-00038V-BH for bug-gzip@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:52:07 -0500 Received: from [172.23.0.10] ([188.107.90.70]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MMoU7-1clae43Mr9-008XUU for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 23:52:03 +0100 To: bug-gzip@gnu.org From: Bachsau Subject: GZIPs deprecated environment variable Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 23:52:02 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms050602080201030300060704" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:C4YLRUttK1izshgLXWTbpvPHW3g6DbcpCuVwf2KyVD9/Lbvl/6s vWyQ13ePNAVitATBIvoUJUGS4xrStML4XtsVl5thFitjOBESXGqvCl8PMkSRYi4S9sz30Vt 0/gki9xW3GZbg1gmSKr4kZy/R1yMS3JcXQEoFGQBcnyvUHVmXTQ+I7ELtvEoiPhRnO4Eynd /6aLUFYxeWUiDFm65qAnA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:SiYzmjWAq0Q=:5G3QPv9sPkZTklKj1v+do7 IwTpgN8Jra2I+dgSRtIy6RnRfpedwVlrSr4wLvtR9AAfiZ1h+lD0QLEitzKIX+YAwdcQjELbM NDdF5H2LXx6a78ByhFWhZeZgoVq91c4H2jTmTMSTj3l7fPz9UjokB0nCDnSNVtMLXtNtHgw34 N+FsGgO7YRT+GGGJeUWlYXaVWG/ihcDhG8bBzLCnubgMDfA+wnsBDBc1R4b6AnUqWp6+EXllx vk+ZUIR9U39Vss37K08K1ubAYnhAt3ysW4IKzO1m61jsK2OhkRcB2O9k1vmbOimqoj25BW+D9 Tu4sbO+D+fCByjciRZrBMraggQ5lCG1o8HbW/Dvu8b0lFDnDQB8LV0v1GNYdQPXYKyUT2AIiP Y1zIPFb3pbXQNtDJGeTBNA5YYxZqaNCxjdXN7POmtQ4PGOyQRR4kPZZYVG4MAGJsg98wEb/jn jvMYtM8omOWfTLPKpsX50805Fo/ma5L/eA4SPK9RB6BTNVSudxQo3ynwwiZl1OyC3PFVy1Gjw k3CBjDm8lDPfDnxxKujGwS7MsUbaiPYuYSlk9WPzaKTNHDx4Ba7Os7RG9H0sVRYbvSKDle6Zo p54eseVK1c8v56qqBHkem+ET2l2YCyw2G0/kCpzF79OF67bMVHqUSbt7HJRzigG2UPFhE2ObK QIMnh0cmDk0xMH0K9okyD1z9hV0DG8YFXg2HdeDOPUq/oVJsEksD3aL/TFMmG9eu8Bx43P+OI ZswDcvJu3E3Z19b58ekTaV+/caLIh62Q/+V3tTwAr59BcpkEWv9EgXgkTLw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 18:39:54 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050602080201030300060704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey! As a sysadmin I want to decide about the default compression ratio=20 myself. This is why I set up a system wide environment variable with=20 GZIP=3D-9. Now it keeps tellig me that this is deprecated and will be=20 removed. But there is no replacement for it. I think gzip is in=20 desperate need of a global configuration file. Sure, I can use an alias or script as suggested by gzip itself, but that = will not be picked up by update scripts and such stuff, which build, for = example, initial ramdisks, and come with the distribution. 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zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDC616008B; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 18:28:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id crRLwo6uvH-S; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 18:28:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88ABC16008C; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 18:28:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id gzGhMVVOpM-N; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 18:28:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [47.153.188.248]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6B3E316008B; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 18:28:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: bug#25699: GZIPs deprecated environment variable To: Bachsau References: From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 18:28:58 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 25699 Cc: 25699@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Bachsau wrote: > I can use an alias or script as suggested by gzip itself, but that will > not be picked up by update scripts and such stuff Sure it will. Just rename /bin/gzip to /bin/gzip.real, and create a shell script /bin/gzip that looks like this: #!/bin/sh exec gzip.real -9 "$@" You're the sysadmin, so you can do this. (And if you were not the sysadmin, you wouldn't be able to edit any global configuration file either.) The GZIP environment variable leads to functionality and security problems, which is why it's being deprecated. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 13 19:00:59 2017 Received: (at 25699) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2017 00:00:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39014 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cdQYF-00065Y-Bz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 19:00:59 -0500 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:36040) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cdQYD-00065J-1p for 25699@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 19:00:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DCD16004F; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:00:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id OSeDJrMKdMNm; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:00:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EEF16007E; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:00:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id rboXULBzbJY2; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:00:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3C35D16004F; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:00:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: bug#25699: GZIPs deprecated environment variable To: Bachsau References: <5c83c57d-5be9-d746-7e7f-96628259a452@bachsau.name> From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <632a0286-0d36-5e5f-7c70-a06e925da81f@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:00:50 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5c83c57d-5be9-d746-7e7f-96628259a452@bachsau.name> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 25699 Cc: 25699@debbugs.gnu.org, bug-gzip@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) On 02/13/2017 03:48 PM, Bachsau wrote: > > Of course I can. Until my distributions package manager replaces that > file again with the next regular update. The same thing could happen to any global configuration file, too. There is no functional difference between a configuration file and a shell wrapper. If your distributions package manager lets you edit one, you can edit the other. If not, not. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 13 19:02:15 2017 Received: (at 25699) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2017 00:02:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39021 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cdQZS-00068E-UB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 19:02:15 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:54484) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cdQMq-0005n4-4E for 25699@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2017 18:49:12 -0500 Received: from [172.23.0.10] ([188.107.90.70]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LtJ5T-1cF3wX1Uxn-012s7U; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 00:48:58 +0100 Subject: Re: bug#25699: GZIPs deprecated environment variable To: Paul Eggert References: From: Bachsau Message-ID: <5c83c57d-5be9-d746-7e7f-96628259a452@bachsau.name> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 00:48:55 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms050801080001040201000404" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:FiqUKV8stu/eVpJGmZYlsSoRZW6VK3RZb46Qn+ozZNti8SGG/hj AXOwHPhjEoqSep0fVCM8ZXGhTv9PE1BVPqYQ03PZzIkuowuXYf2DHUUp6EhE4KkekE+2829 Ajp13KuYPe1GYMZLeMAy0OdRUu+IcjQinv4auDgE64odsm8I3UFQZiLkdZlPzoyge7tTfoR WjRwov1PRABmynKOJGvjA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Ca52jdOQrWo=:GvE17K3KZVzY+HrwYUAiZE +HHFBJlSKMbDOxtPLAqFwXSRMuBCAULtQOLC0n9uydoXwIQ1gcYcV0pdEaN/0gDkOeYArtA+P Nppi/AIu70AwDM/woCY31ZemzJgia92FHGucrEsTEn0IQQhyBi7ugV3JDmcjqvEC63UqMixD1 yOSi5q8/oDRWUubtgSxeCI5Nr/FwHQlhbRNtAxSWPqA1cAroM4xN4KZ2hUyzdYa3hsfLALRJy 8kcrTLkX6jS0vxEB96Wn5U+o1a40mrLPT/u414Q81pfZKglLlg+bO4IdYGU5ThDh9vk7KYyNL eF9k6K09pJ05Rlc2zQFvM6bRcS4byAe/lqFuzUsaUUVJES5PqodR97dnX52a+U62Yq9OIQHaU JQdSBu9oXTyFeqZVCqCSew7ocSTYDn+jYxNbwBo8agsszD5MMQ8vQHdDKBcynaKJcLbnKI+6C pLpk9k/P1TZ9Gns1LTCwqw4JwYPNB29xjcrqKb9rOImURkHOdRn3QQxBKWmuL9KJmYvOem44+ fQUm0gEG+4e6wNLaHMw0sMW7LUrST9gEWJRypLjIClF/oS0muwm6fCCv6tPoKLcTJ9nv2gTw1 L2s4jvfdALyVPQZbuEmuXCv4x3de37tyf0FOX4H7JGWBAYPP43yDb8PVYrZUwwrnW1/DFjdmX LaBCRQGKPe+mdS9Adw17rsSt1LZShx5ifkYaJc2eGMaYTszXRFt9WAKAajof0N8oeSz+7MfIS PcCWgSBYOmG7MAjos5c03dKZxRgwSCqQT7/Of9ECjfAqmZg/FRvk9s+4mr4= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 25699 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 19:02:13 -0500 Cc: 25699@debbugs.gnu.org, bug-gzip@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050801080001040201000404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 13.02.2017 um 03:28 schrieb Paul Eggert: > Sure it will. Just rename /bin/gzip to /bin/gzip.real, and create a > shell script /bin/gzip that looks like this: > > #!/bin/sh > exec gzip.real -9 "$@" > > You're the sysadmin, so you can do this. (And if you were not the > sysadmin, you > wouldn't be able to edit any global configuration file either.) Of course I can. Until my distributions package manager replaces that=20 file again with the next regular update. You should know it is almost=20 always a bad idea to edit any files in /bin /sbin and /usr/*. 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bug#25699: GZIPs deprecated environment variable To: Bachsau References: <5c83c57d-5be9-d746-7e7f-96628259a452@bachsau.name> <632a0286-0d36-5e5f-7c70-a06e925da81f@cs.ucla.edu> <49d6915f-915d-ae1c-4a91-a0ff2f09e3ef@bachsau.name> From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <8f415fbe-5331-a73b-677d-8f94ac918dc3@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:09:19 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49d6915f-915d-ae1c-4a91-a0ff2f09e3ef@bachsau.name> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: 25699@debbugs.gnu.org, bug-gzip@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) On 02/22/2017 11:17 AM, Bachsau wrote: > Every package manager I know has special routines for handling > configuration files and configuration file changes. Fine, then call the wrapper shell script a "configuration file". Or have the wrapper shell script source a "configuration file" that contains the settings that you want. Code is just another form of data, after all. 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