From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:22:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25460: 26.0.50; Documentation request: Save/write hooks and autosave Resent-From: Philipp Stephani Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 18:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 25460 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 25460@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14845902185877 (code B ref -1); Mon, 16 Jan 2017 18:11:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jan 2017 18:10:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55898 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cTBjV-0001Wj-Va for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:10:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52038) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cTBjU-0001WU-MO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:10:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cTBjN-0004Kf-VO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:10:11 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:58745) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cTBjN-0004KN-RY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:10:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43002) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cTBjL-0005jm-Py for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:10:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cTBjK-0004H7-E4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:10:07 -0500 Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]:38163) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cTBjK-0004Ga-43 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:10:06 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id r144so186701115wme.1 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 10:10:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=m7xlIvX4WtohpP7ltboD8Nirk1ZYJsdchCmLJbdOZ5U=; b=BpcQuchTfjpFJcetPArfcE+eT/4ae0dHEXPzdrmN0uegha0qAA+49YrN4ol1dcMr8x PSrpF0lfs89DZJVuUeA72Un5lotgWQNW+vOx9LJ4q1XrN/3WJKIcYmkWnHesmxrcNBM/ LXWskH+KYI/k+ASXkiwj2aHVHfoytPnimCcziL1NF/xLRss0Gy07GPYLqeLW455PB/GU S+P3KnykcasfCvogqpOQdKg9+PTOa1RlnkLNmeKVZzqQoUZNYn+hEy7i0PSnpCgNbNHy zmmYmgP6sL92jfNHrSFn6snNy5DYsKKdt79sENEVyw9rdzwdelTDGLG1NnuRGn8nwpFD BQJg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=m7xlIvX4WtohpP7ltboD8Nirk1ZYJsdchCmLJbdOZ5U=; b=oYKesvf6FVpNJjxPqTUXZSjdiQAw3zCLcH7zqQV1pKtSEjeGwesWRXPlq/2jnYMYAe 2mnxF2JAA6fWYo875Kd9uwx0u4fRi1jMpwEu6nVmdrOYfmuMxVAjMyAQS59nekQr/8dr M/7nsWurvCG4jyQcEPPx1UJ2Qq8NeKtAkUVHASKOVTKFxTTYwnhpIKCZiuXJ2Pbgr4Uj OGbiG1RLZq1FnyDziyhuDdip0xLi9trmn92etL+wUlonGygipLxQrq2/l4xcBTgdMniJ ZZL4qmvUIp9liDV0T69BlCCMDO2NdNRCv9BElc1uNDU6Zxy77Nef+c9JS8tp2PXYAr+g Dpyg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXI6k9MNDksdY3NE9VlxysU6WoRh7Yss/aN31c5XYXdvwOuMx5zb5h2l0uMY/2YA4w== X-Received: by 10.28.206.199 with SMTP id e190mr13710308wmg.98.1484590204471; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 10:10:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from a.muc.corp.google.com ([2a00:79e0:15:4:48fc:dd77:c47:6b0e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u78sm30440167wma.11.2017.01.16.10.10.03 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Jan 2017 10:10:03 -0800 (PST) From: Philipp Stephani Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:09:58 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) Please document how {before,after}-save-hook and write-{buffer,file}-functions relate to autosave, both in the docstrings of these hooks and in the Emacs Lisp manual. I noticed that even if auto-save-visited-file-name is t, autosaving doesn't run before-save-hook. The documentation should provide some guidance which hook to use depending on the value of auto-save-visited-file-name and on whether the current save operation is an auto-save or not. 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From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:22:07 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Philipp Stephani Subject: bug#25460: closed (Re: bug#25460: 26.0.50; Documentation request: Save/write hooks and autosave) Message-ID: References: <8360la6r3d.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 25460 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 25460@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 09:04:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1484903042-20772-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1484903042-20772-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #25460: 26.0.50; Documentation request: Save/write hooks and autosave which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 25460@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 25460: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D25460 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1484903042-20772-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 25460-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2017 09:03:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36032 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cUV6f-0005OQ-2M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 04:03:37 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40520) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cUV6d-0005OD-8p for 25460-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 04:03:35 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cUV6V-0006EL-72 for 25460-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 04:03:30 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54986) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cUV6V-0006EH-4Z; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 04:03:27 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4137 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cUV6U-0003An-Gm; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 04:03:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 11:03:18 +0200 Message-Id: <8360la6r3d.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Philipp Stephani In-reply-to: (message from Philipp Stephani on Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:09:58 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#25460: 26.0.50; Documentation request: Save/write hooks and autosave References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 25460-done Cc: 25460-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) > From: Philipp Stephani > Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:09:58 +0100 > > Please document how {before,after}-save-hook and > write-{buffer,file}-functions relate to autosave They don't. These hooks are only run by basic-save-buffer. > I noticed that even if auto-save-visited-file-name is t, autosaving > doesn't run before-save-hook. I added notes (on the release branch) that these hooks are only run by save-buffer. > The documentation should provide some guidance which hook to use > depending on the value of auto-save-visited-file-name and on whether > the current save operation is an auto-save or not. It looks like you consider auto-save-visited-file-name as an option that makes auto-saving exactly equivalent to saving the buffer. But that is far from reality; in fact, as I wrote elsewhere, this option has subtle issues, so much so that I don't recommend its use at all. If we want it to be equivalent to saving, we should reimplement it so that auto-saving uses basic-save-buffer when this option is non-nil. 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I noticed that even if auto-save-visited-file-name is t, autosaving doesn't run before-save-hook. The documentation should provide some guidance which hook to use depending on the value of auto-save-visited-file-name and on whether the current save operation is an auto-save or not. 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