From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 12 19:05:30 2017 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2017 00:05:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51881 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cRpN4-0000Cl-8K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:05:30 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56129) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cRpN2-0000CZ-Tr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:05:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cRpMx-00041B-2n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:05:23 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:57269) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cRpMw-000417-Vi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:05:22 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47093) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cRpMw-0008E4-2T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:05:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cRpMs-0003yg-RX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:05:22 -0500 Received: from homie.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208]:40401 helo=homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cRpMs-0003yM-KL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:05:18 -0500 Received: from homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9783F10AFCA for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:05:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=jidanni.org; bh=huAJEa8J5ilMyzQMrdM 2NjZ1le0=; b=D5rMaCzSWnXbLww15HlEXLm38Z4p+KAdJ3s2r51omgmig0FMG4O sGItNPTCc5KcA9NgIKjidTsitpuC1T9tRk4XUeAGcU4nbHA10DWsfnsxj6tonOcr q5umgptnlTLupVs2Q2gB3tQgbkfh4iNvirSfcqO8+Qs58AmYSzBMD3mE= Received: from jidanni.org (114-26-41-44.dynamic.hinet.net [114.26.41.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5073810AFBE for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:05:15 -0800 (PST) From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: U+3001 IDEOGRAPHIC COMMA is punctuation Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 08:05:12 +0800 Message-ID: <87k29z964n.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) M-/ (translated from /) runs the command dabbrev-expand But when I do ESC / here, =E9=98=BFG=E4=BF=A1> =E6=83=B3=E5=90=91=E6=82=A8=E8=AB=8B=E6=95=99=EF=BC=8C= =E6=96=B0=E5=8C=97=E5=B8=82=E6=B6=88=E9=98=B2=E5=B1=80 =E5=8C=97=E6=B5=B7= =E9=A0=BB=E7=8E=87=E3=80=81Talkgroup=E3=80=81=E9=A1=8F=E8=89=B2=E7=A2=BC=E3= =80=81slot =E8=87=B3=E6=96=BC Talkg I get Scanning for dabbrevs...done user-error: No dynamic expansion for =E2=80=98Talkg=E2=80=99 found That's because "=E3=80=81" is not being treated like a (type of a) comma = as it should. Same problem with =EF=BC=8Cbla =E3=80=82bla b below them should give bla. I bet there's more broken too. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 13 03:32:06 2017 Received: (at 25432) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2017 08:32:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52058 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cRxHK-0002iu-Kh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 03:32:06 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54944) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cRxHI-0002iQ-JX for 25432@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 03:32:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cRxH9-0000Or-El for 25432@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 03:31:59 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51429) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cRxH9-0000On-BT; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 03:31:55 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3022 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cRxH8-0001wg-FR; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 03:31:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:32:01 +0200 Message-Id: <83d1frcqda.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson In-reply-to: <87k29z964n.fsf@jidanni.org> Subject: Re: bug#25432: U+3001 IDEOGRAPHIC COMMA is punctuation References: <87k29z964n.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 25432 Cc: 25432@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson > > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 08:05:12 +0800 > > M-/ (translated from /) runs the command dabbrev-expand > > But when I do ESC / here, > > 阿G信> 想向您請教，新北市消防局 北海頻率、Talkgroup、顏色碼、slot > > 至於 Talkg > > I get > Scanning for dabbrevs...done > user-error: No dynamic expansion for ‘Talkg’ found > > That's because "、" is not being treated like a (type of a) comma as it > should. No, that's because by default M-/ searches for symbol-constituent characters, and 、 can be part of a symbol. If you don't like that, customize dabbrev-abbrev-char-regexp to just "\\sw". IOW, this is a feature: Emacs is primarily a programmer's editor, so its defaults are supposed to be tuned for that. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 28 23:37:51 2019 Received: (at 25432) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2019 03:37:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51849 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEQ1u-0006yU-Ov for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:37:50 -0400 Received: from mail-pg1-f175.google.com ([209.85.215.175]:40551) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEQ1t-0006y4-Eg for 25432@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:37:49 -0400 Received: by mail-pg1-f175.google.com with SMTP id w10so5449586pgj.7 for <25432@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 20:37:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UPpxj4blD83ikOvT8lTeT7peRGd/OojQTM+ZaUYs+PE=; b=RmbzM5LMU965YwJkdjLBTZijeDT2wS7mi2Uob/lsZGdP1yrPlhMTRnX/2qSmUoseZs UOyVixBEgWuJmgbVNp/ehtxBzzByu8tAUR6ldGMlOMyznk5RxQxwDSTtGMkppMRLmRa9 vxG2FjUArjbqwsMAFpTSWDctj6Ie902hV8PrJiDZpMVaVkOQdXRhQu3Zv5KzJs4BcJ4z bQ0miTziMysRXh8DPNbqcZB+ECyMzBBAAtIuorD8PJI4QsGUTLOkFXg9JpNzPpE4v7az 5mg3yPLLKI0z98pX+m+XoOC5xF4h2SQrnifUzYxnC15zarG/XHBvWY+mnSCSszMvt3AU 2jtw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWrIyv8iwSY7wAjk8DPJBcvyI3knDiusiP7j/n/F64DHaySQqgm /3H70zn6n/Sob1nVTQV1sTBLNN18S+X9AfXkT/Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzrsF5BGphirjMgqOdqw5mV8QT2gbIejVha6AzSyS28U8dp4ZV9pAMINpHvlLoqgQTMisJAX9egPQGA5gZg0q0= X-Received: by 2002:a63:720f:: with SMTP id n15mr16965329pgc.198.1569728263662; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 20:37:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Kangas Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 05:37:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#25432: U+3001 IDEOGRAPHIC COMMA is punctuation To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 25432 Cc: 25432@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8IERhbiBKYWNvYnNvbg==?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) tags 25432 + wontfix close 25432 quit Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson >> >> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 08:05:12 +0800 >> >> M-/ (translated from /) runs the command dabbrev-expand >> >> But when I do ESC / here, >> >> =E9=98=BFG=E4=BF=A1> =E6=83=B3=E5=90=91=E6=82=A8=E8=AB=8B=E6=95=99=EF=BC= =8C=E6=96=B0=E5=8C=97=E5=B8=82=E6=B6=88=E9=98=B2=E5=B1=80 =E5=8C=97=E6=B5= =B7=E9=A0=BB=E7=8E=87=E3=80=81Talkgroup=E3=80=81=E9=A1=8F=E8=89=B2=E7=A2=BC= =E3=80=81slot >> >> =E8=87=B3=E6=96=BC Talkg >> >> I get >> Scanning for dabbrevs...done >> user-error: No dynamic expansion for =E2=80=98Talkg=E2=80=99 found >> >> That's because "=E3=80=81" is not being treated like a (type of a) comma= as it >> should. > > No, that's because by default M-/ searches for symbol-constituent > characters, and =E3=80=81 can be part of a symbol. If you don't like tha= t, > customize dabbrev-abbrev-char-regexp to just "\\sw". > > IOW, this is a feature: Emacs is primarily a programmer's editor, so > its defaults are supposed to be tuned for that. According to the above explanation, this is the desired behaviour. I'm consequently closing this as wontfix. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From unknown Thu Aug 14 21:51:23 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 11:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator