From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:26:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25411: 25.1; rmail decryption problems Resent-From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 25411 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 25411@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.148406463221461 (code B ref -1); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:11:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jan 2017 16:10:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49063 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cQz0J-0005a5-Jp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:10:32 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56929) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cQz0H-0005Zr-46 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:10:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cQz09-0006z5-Ri for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:10:23 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD, T_MANY_HDRS_LCASE autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:40575) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cQz09-0006yy-OD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:10:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47885) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cQz07-0008Gq-TF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:10:21 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cQz03-0006x7-14 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:10:19 -0500 Received: from blade3.isti.cnr.it ([194.119.192.19]:7245) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cQz02-0006wJ-N9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:10:14 -0500 Received: from tucano.isti.cnr.it ([146.48.81.102]) by mx.isti.cnr.it (PMDF V6.5-x6 #1251) with ESMTPSA id <01Q9IZ75JZNOCXUFRL@mx.isti.cnr.it> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:10:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from pot by tucano.isti.cnr.it with local (Exim 4.88) (envelope-from ) id 1cQyzx-0005cd-6z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:10:09 +0100 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:10:09 +0100 From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Message-id: Organization: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-INSM-ip-source: 146.48.81.102 Auth Done X-fingerprint: 4B02 6187 5C03 D6B1 2E31 7666 09DF 2DC9 BE21 6115 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) Several problems here. When using rmail, an ecrypted message can be decrypted by using epa-mail-decrypt or rmail-epa-decrypt. 1) none of these is bound to any keys, which is annoying. The obvious keybinding in rmail should be C-cC-ed 2) it is not clear if there is any difference between these two functions: both seem to do the same thing. 3) epa-mail-decrypt behaves well when told not to replace the email contents, but when told to replace it, it should mark the email message as "decrypted", which it does not 4) rmail-epa-decrypt behaves well when told to replace the email message, but when told not to, it marks the email message as decrypted, which is wrong because this modifies the mail buffer, which should stay unmodified. Moreover, if the buffer is saved, the (unmodified) mail message carries the "decrypted" tag, which does not make sense. In GNU Emacs 25.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2016-10-24, modified by Debian built on trouble Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11900000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux testing (stretch) Configured using: 'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-pop=yes --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs25:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/25.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/25.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --with-sound=alsa --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-pop=yes --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs25:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/25.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/25.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --with-sound=alsa --with-x=yes --with-x-toolkit=lucid --with-toolkit-scroll-bars --without-gconf --without-gsettings 'CFLAGS=-g -O2 -fdebug-prefix-map=/build/emacs25-25.1+1=. -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall' 'CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2' LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro' Configured features: XAW3D XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS LUCID X11 Important settings: value of $LC_COLLATE: it_IT.UTF-8 value of $LC_CTYPE: it_IT.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: C value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t TeX-PDF-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t epa-global-mail-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t openwith-mode: t xterm-mouse-mode: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t auto-fill-function: do-auto-fill Recent messages: Showing message 68...done Decrypting...done Replace the original message? (y or n) n No following nondeleted message Showing message 68...done Saving file /home/pot/Mail/rum... 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= writes: > When using rmail, an ecrypted message can be decrypted by using > epa-mail-decrypt or rmail-epa-decrypt. > > 1) none of these is bound to any keys, which is annoying. The obvious > keybinding in rma [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Francesco Potort=C3=AC writes: > When using rmail, an ecrypted message can be decrypted by using > epa-mail-decrypt or rmail-epa-decrypt. > > 1) none of these is bound to any keys, which is annoying. The obvious > keybinding in rmail should be C-cC-ed I've now bound `C-c C-d' to `rmail-epa-decrypt'. > 2) it is not clear if there is any difference between these two > functions: both seem to do the same thing. Presumably rmail function is rmail-specific, which explains: > 3) epa-mail-decrypt behaves well when told not to replace the email > contents, but when told to replace it, it should mark the email message > as "decrypted", which it does not That's an rmail-specific thing, so I think it's correct that it doesn't do that. > 4) rmail-epa-decrypt behaves well when told to replace the email > message, but when told not to, it marks the email message as decrypted, > which is wrong because this modifies the mail buffer, which should > stay unmodified. Moreover, if the buffer is saved, the (unmodified) > mail message carries the "decrypted" tag, which does not make sense. This should now be fixed in Emacs 28. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 12 15:17:36 2020 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2020 20:17:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46780 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1koBKh-0001Nf-Ts for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 15:17:36 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:50796) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1koBKg-0001NQ-2Z for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 15:17:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=oMzlMPEn2f11q3yt02dWWlbycTSHhHbxlhTQVXZO72Y=; b=a+vWCu923fOApRVCg2uY5q6r3p FDyWY2OAmhp+ozq2dWQoL0RmnbzXuq2AMakt1mRWbr3OqxycH5bMQOQBnm7Gjz49gLYO9IhyKM9nV pUurXnwRfy3P2HCIkAOQxJwBCahjJzt9mr4wOmdVGKNxN3EYvYtf7fG1tB1VQKlpFRj4=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1koBKY-0002Ed-Iq for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 21:17:28 +0100 Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 21:17:25 +0100 Message-Id: <87zh2i7p9m.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #25411 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 25411 fixed close 25411 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 25411 fixed close 25411 28.1 quit From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:26:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25411: 25.1; rmail decryption problems Resent-From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 17:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25411 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 25411@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25411-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25411.16078799095124 (code B ref 25411); Sun, 13 Dec 2020 17:19:02 +0000 Received: (at 25411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2020 17:18:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49998 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1koV0u-0001KZ-Us for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 12:18:29 -0500 Received: from smtp-clients1.isti.cnr.it ([146.48.28.36]:39354) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1koV0t-0001KS-Gm for 25411@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 12:18:28 -0500 Received: from tucano.isti.cnr.it (tucano.isti.cnr.it [146.48.81.102]) (Authenticated sender: pot) by smtp-clients1.isti.cnr.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A86DFB0833; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 18:18:25 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.102.4 at smtp-out.isti.cnr.it Received: from pot by tucano.isti.cnr.it with local (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1koV0r-000Rje-5e; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 18:18:25 +0100 From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 18:18:24 +0100 In-Reply-To: <871rfu93ul.fsf@gnus.org> (larsi@gnus.org) References: <871rfu93ul.fsf@gnus.org> Organization: X-fingerprint: 4B02 6187 5C03 D6B1 2E31 7666 09DF 2DC9 BE21 6115 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) >> When using rmail, an ecrypted message can be decrypted by using >> epa-mail-decrypt or rmail-epa-decrypt. >> >> 1) none of these is bound to any keys, which is annoying. The obvious >> keybinding in rmail should be C-cC-ed > >I've now bound `C-c C-d' to `rmail-epa-decrypt'. Note that C-c C-e is the prefix for the epa-mail functions. I think it's natural to use the same prefix for rmail. >> 2) it is not clear if there is any difference between these two >> functions: both seem to do the same thing. > >Presumably rmail function is rmail-specific, which explains: > >> 3) epa-mail-decrypt behaves well when told not to replace the email >> contents, but when told to replace it, it should mark the email message >> as "decrypted", which it does not > >That's an rmail-specific thing, so I think it's correct that it doesn't >do that. > >> 4) rmail-epa-decrypt behaves well when told to replace the email >> message, but when told not to, it marks the email message as decrypted, >> which is wrong because this modifies the mail buffer, which should >> stay unmodified. Moreover, if the buffer is saved, the (unmodified) >> mail message carries the "decrypted" tag, which does not make sense. > >This should now be fixed in Emacs 28. Ok, thanks From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:26:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25411: 25.1; rmail decryption problems Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25411 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Cc: 25411@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25411-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25411.160796233732446 (code B ref 25411); Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:13:02 +0000 Received: (at 25411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Dec 2020 16:12:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53930 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1koqSP-0008RG-Kr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:12:17 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:44506) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1koqSN-0008R3-Mo for 25411@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:12:16 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=uIS+LxH8/KUtl5shm11PqucOKbxGBvU2dktHC5JANxE=; b=jTFtWhqWAQKn5Dqel4DuZ8qIwO 0+B15ElMuU+BdhHYMghLi86YZ8x7CZ+26N8KcstaiPExyYTRfYTIMGCzVtZCtlTaloEHZm2At2qTX Qvi38/zHh1ahBkSlPGzheCLB9nP8CjXIizG2vwuIOlrlkCu60B+L9uop3injSUR9st3Y=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1koqSF-0004Cb-Mx; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:12:10 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <871rfu93ul.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEVPcZAhOVFtjauf t87X5fD///9yaa3UAAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+QMDg8sCFiYzacAAAGdSURBVDjLbZTR ecMgDIQFzgDQdAAsMkCKPEFg/5l6EmDjflVeYn6fhA5hokAz4hrkAjHzPwDBFj79Bb4D7iCcqYjz DbipCCxlAZTcTMUiWBbZbcFLAdGtQiFSygSbSOp7UoVFB1mUkAfIKwj6r/RcE7iRyYD1IUfTJ2eC 1uoK6gDfDYFdWg0vcoKjdSKC9ZQ72CM9bV2fDHAvssf0aidRb3024L5KO6OatwB4KW35Ao0SCIqA JDluAD8Dmu0GnDrad8mtvacKtd0EVbCr5wkyqo7XPgEeLKD4Ad7xedXAaRQaVfcVwBBJaERFP/Fx ATX3DR87OG5AqibUVGHpIwabEgXVPVYQsbHSAb1uwKaaFSR/AzoRrGdSU2BeAC6C70V0CLalRj9e gI8e+6ijF8d7PZF6dPCYfZDaZeMEb9ZUwWcZQHzMa4N9RhXkxZIT2JitfRDPqdZLcqyKeUFKstG3 UzbFlDCjqSlHH56HRuciTDl1DzMPED1fYH4BAEyPe1/EvEqG8Oxo44woJSuA8X4Ad6rHJ8fSJXJx fHIS/wI1yLQaHchSrwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMC0xMi0xNFQxNTo0NDowOCswMDow MEQlE3sAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjAtMTItMTRUMTU6NDQ6MDgrMDA6MDA1eKvHAAAA AElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Laurie Freelove's _Songs From The Nineline_: "Love A Way" Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:12:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: ("Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?="'s message of "Sun, 13 Dec 2020 18:18:24 +0100") Message-ID: <87h7oo1i5l.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= writes: >>I've now bound `C-c C-d' to `rmail-epa-decrypt'. > > Note that C-c C-e is the prefix for the epa-mail functions. I think > it's natural to use the same prefix for rmail. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Francesco Potort=C3=AC writes: >>I've now bound `C-c C-d' to `rmail-epa-decrypt'. > > Note that C-c C-e is the prefix for the epa-mail functions. I think > it's natural to use the same prefix for rmail. Oh, I wasn't aware of that... there doesn't seem to be a `C-c C-e' binding in rmail by default, though? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:26:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25411: 25.1; rmail decryption problems Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 05:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25411 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Cc: 25411@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25411-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25411.160801064016503 (code B ref 25411); Tue, 15 Dec 2020 05:38:01 +0000 Received: (at 25411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2020 05:37:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55054 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kp31U-0004I6-8a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:37:20 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51844) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kp31T-0004Ht-7r for 25411@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:37:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=q4Z8NtoKJMdcirMn0g6FvD23id2Dvlba5da4GgcfN7A=; b=PinGfl3KqF65mfGKvayE/F0PnB 4CCU9PZvMT8gtbQeg6cg3k8506LruvPuCfWKwf4xNfZIrHy7hIBqD7i82PBE9ZJmQfISs6LegdFCV f4y/qq079wv898Nj4ModJuOMfHYbLYocHx99YdSTq9Kl1eMro6Jc8Omn5koxNwVIl3Kg=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kp31K-0005Iu-60; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:37:12 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <871rfu93ul.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7oo1i5l.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAFVBMVEXm3t/LsqGXa1FF IRuyjnLNsJz///9pQGikAAAAAWJLR0QGYWa4fQAAAAd0SU1FB+QMDwUjF+cjPi4AAAF0SURBVDjL bZNhjoQgDIUh0f90IheozAVkDrAi/h8Se/+rbCvgCmtNNHlf3iutqtRZGmD2S/jM3i+ruhXAxlJw DPxi7vqLFQzOtwA4aEF0AU9w1yfWEePcOLgxvESOGfg72DiIweYXnP1P1o0AzCDw/SgOkSvYBaTt ARzsInsHYT4BMdhTB0QjIZSuKXiOs3cG7PkDNuANEAEUAAIOIunOYZHoavJBAfGqCo7odssO8RwZ lKzJrSNJFZ/sJCP6ZkBnJ7qObLSAVMFeF2xkmwmGPevVkak26vUme4JdtYVOokrzWw2IkiVbbnQd UCyrth2YeE2y8zFG10bpfCewXY+sJz780Grl3SVbvF2U0tY8Gbg5fVtg65PX0iaVqPGI2Foghw3B ha55Bjb0A5b2dorv7qxQDnGsXU7O4vng/3Rc/PU2oBKdVAPAlMn7hUCZQtcPAc6/7ZpO2W5RqjeY +t4KsOmaVvPFmDLoV15POJJSjz3qH/gL3ftk1kEJMEAAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjAt MTItMTVUMDU6MzU6MjIrMDA6MDBX7kUSAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIwLTEyLTE1VDA1 OjM1OjIyKzAwOjAwJrP9rgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Anna =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=A4rvinen's?= _Man var bland molnen_: "=?UTF-8?Q?L=C3=A5t?= det =?UTF-8?Q?d=C3=B6?=" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:37:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: ("Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?="'s message of "Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:47:52 +0100") Message-ID: <878s9z3a0r.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= writes: >>>>I've now bound `C-c C-d' to `rmail-epa-decrypt'. >>> >>> Note that C-c C-e is the prefix for the epa-mail functions. I think >>> it's natural to use the same prefix for rmail. >> >>Oh, I wasn't aw [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Francesco Potort=C3=AC writes: >>>>I've now bound `C-c C-d' to `rmail-epa-decrypt'. >>> >>> Note that C-c C-e is the prefix for the epa-mail functions. I think >>> it's natural to use the same prefix for rmail. >> >>Oh, I wasn't aware of that... there doesn't seem to be a `C-c C-e' >>binding in rmail by default, though? > > No, in fact. But being used to epa it is natural for me that C-c C-e is > the prefix The complication here is that `C-c C-e' is a submap (presumably), and if rmail binds `C-c C-e d' without that submap, there'll be a keymap collision. From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:26:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25411: 25.1; rmail decryption problems Resent-From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 21:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25411 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 25411@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25411-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25411.16080678924322 (code B ref 25411); Tue, 15 Dec 2020 21:32:01 +0000 Received: (at 25411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2020 21:31:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59358 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kpHuu-00017e-7C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:31:32 -0500 Received: from smtp-clients1.isti.cnr.it ([146.48.28.36]:40138) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kpHut-00017V-41 for 25411@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:31:31 -0500 Received: from tucano.isti.cnr.it (tucano.isti.cnr.it [146.48.81.102]) (Authenticated sender: pot) by smtp-clients1.isti.cnr.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 37A39AF4C0; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 22:31:29 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.102.4 at smtp-out.isti.cnr.it Received: from pot by tucano.isti.cnr.it with local (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kpHuq-003run-Ta; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 22:31:28 +0100 From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 22:31:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: <878s9z3a0r.fsf@gnus.org> (larsi@gnus.org) References: <871rfu93ul.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7oo1i5l.fsf@gnus.org> <878s9z3a0r.fsf@gnus.org> Organization: X-fingerprint: 4B02 6187 5C03 D6B1 2E31 7666 09DF 2DC9 BE21 6115 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) >>>>>I've now bound `C-c C-d' to `rmail-epa-decrypt'. >>>> >>>> Note that C-c C-e is the prefix for the epa-mail functions. I think >>>> it's natural to use the same prefix for rmail. >>> >>>Oh, I wasn't aware of that... there doesn't seem to be a `C-c C-e' >>>binding in rmail by default, though? >> >> No, in fact. But being used to epa it is natural for me that C-c C-e is >> the prefix > >The complication here is that `C-c C-e' is a submap (presumably), and if >rmail binds `C-c C-e d' without that submap, there'll be a keymap >collision. I ma not proficient enough about submaps. However, this is what i have in my .emacs, and ift has worked for a long time: (add-hook 'rmail-mode-hook (lambda () (require 'rmailsum) (define-key rmail-mode-map "\C-c\C-ed" 'epa-mail-decrypt) ... From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:26:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25411: 25.1; rmail decryption problems Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 05:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25411 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: pot@gnu.org, 25411@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 25411-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25411.160809691818496 (code B ref 25411); Wed, 16 Dec 2020 05:36:02 +0000 Received: (at 25411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2020 05:35:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59630 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kpPT4-0004oF-3h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 00:35:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52232) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kpPT2-0004nz-3R for 25411@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 00:35:16 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48004) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpPSw-0003gO-LA; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 00:35:10 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kpPSq-0008CO-9W; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 00:35:04 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <878s9z3a0r.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:37:08 +0100) References: <871rfu93ul.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7oo1i5l.fsf@gnus.org> <878s9z3a0r.fsf@gnus.org> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 00:35:04 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > The complication here is that `C-c C-e' is a submap (presumably), and if > rmail binds `C-c C-e d' without that submap, there'll be a keymap > collision. EPA could merge the two submaps. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:26:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25411: 25.1; rmail decryption problems Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 11:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25411 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Cc: 25411@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25411-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25411.160820552816194 (code B ref 25411); Thu, 17 Dec 2020 11:46:02 +0000 Received: (at 25411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Dec 2020 11:45:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34910 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kpriq-0004Cr-4F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 06:45:28 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:50900) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kprio-00045p-MH for 25411@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 06:45:27 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=vcTJnbJQphLkHZk7F8rvB7Y7KIyaqJ8388xgP1SOhd8=; b=VB8QtXc/sWAT68MK+/z3zSPEeu cpAkiayWlG/yXenrZrkdvSBIpWcmoY2eluJuDCF8abgbaekADB9TQC4vZ/xGMEXyQAmXDI0h593AW ggboJEAgl0NwCItAxZorZo076ebrlH5iHqvEFe9FoFnvAlFTiv+pK+BuYTuLtNlhvdLk=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kpriX-0007Q0-R0; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 12:45:20 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <871rfu93ul.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7oo1i5l.fsf@gnus.org> <878s9z3a0r.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEVMPz6tSELAp5r/ ///wg2LlAAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+QMEQsKDJNYZY8AAAGdSURBVCjPRZHNatwwFIWP xNh0tHKHcRhm5ZYQEj+FYlIoWanFGmhW3TQkfgrHq5KVY0JoZ+UGzxDfp+yRXajA+H7cc390BAAL u61xASRwib6yhsAvnE/eO7sJUQJEnudmQRiq+BDgG0inPsi8L7Ew6PNZVm6YyXIzyZgyyP41KIHl f1nu2DqduqXldsinOc6XKWU5eqgAWalcFfaMXFpmu/1bAe4UIdr9vsK7FdYTOM7PcsrU2qKQMVzh Lqy+KDZNpn8w4jD1eiESLhfzdy0iQeGMSPN49hNxnUA+5yzVinkLqc9NvYaeamQ4N00rzZx5oywL 8ED4paVOpKvuFeFRy8Pd8WmJyOLlpchZ2i1hmDkyVOUr4TmAsg6dIPaES91adD1Swlj09KGDP/Go Dl9bwkcjR2YO07OsYhkiVAOWyXvoWEbgZqB1Cf50Mn6BPNvwYomWkQ1axdDhKb7cEYLDgNXKw3+f QWldQvX4EBJFbBLEY3rLIquDPycyZLBwzQzjVLOaQfoAeYDtXgZOpW9iUe0nZ+krjZNKpJ3h8Bfz d5OVvNxeIQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMC0xMi0xN1QxMToxMDoxMiswMDowML0ynvcA AAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjAtMTItMTdUMTE6MTA6MTIrMDA6MDDMbyZLAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC X-Now-Playing: Themselves's _CrownsDown_: "gold teeth will roll" Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 12:45:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: ("Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?="'s message of "Tue, 15 Dec 2020 22:31:28 +0100") Message-ID: <87bleslkqj.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= writes: > I ma not proficient enough about submaps. However, this is what i have > in my .emacs, and ift has worked for a long time: > > (add-hook 'rmail-mode-hook > (lambda () > (require 'rmailsum) > (define [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Francesco Potort=C3=AC writes: > I ma not proficient enough about submaps. However, this is what i have > in my .emacs, and ift has worked for a long time: > > (add-hook 'rmail-mode-hook > (lambda () > (require 'rmailsum) > (define-key rmail-mode-map "\C-c\C-ed" 'epa-mail-decrypt) I think that works if you've loaded the C-c C-e epa submap first? If you load it afterwords, it'll overwrite this C-c C-e d keystroke? I haven't actually tested, so I may be misremembering how this all works. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:26:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25411: 25.1; rmail decryption problems Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 11:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25411 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Richard Stallman Cc: pot@gnu.org, 25411@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25411-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25411.160820557719179 (code B ref 25411); Thu, 17 Dec 2020 11:47:02 +0000 Received: (at 25411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Dec 2020 11:46:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34914 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kprjc-0004z0-Gc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 06:46:16 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:50916) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kprjY-0004qh-Nm for 25411@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 06:46:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=a6069ogHhr1NF9t4kF/mGLyUcB5M3F1RxglVMmo/ntM=; b=LqjzOOEqd5raGpMI1HSCHwsXXJ ewlrETB21r0vVBFOtbnpN1k5XtwAUjlojRq4P/mZPGBxcFk+3uMWCnj11+OTOpHWownHhNQDq1bvU QkKYNLnwEUg7GNVvkEA8D96wz6N0VD+nMPFS76Pmhf+lUrk7XO10Ne3gAnQUCMtnb8Zc=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kprjP-0007Ql-Fx; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 12:46:07 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <871rfu93ul.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7oo1i5l.fsf@gnus.org> <878s9z3a0r.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAALVBMVEUGBAMsJiNGPjdU UlFgX11vbWyRj4/19fXf3t7U09Khnp6xsK/Avr2Afn3///9bgKxQAAAAAWJLR0QOb70wTwAAAAd0 SU1FB+QMEQstJHwofxAAAAFsSURBVDjL1dK/TsJAHMDxOgiJE5hgYoiJ0RcQmhSFxcQWCHGAIG2V OEFB40x/BZ3pn40oaS9dHGhVXDDUEKmTqy/g44gaE7mrD8B3uvt9hrvhR1HR77a22WR0lU5+nak/ /d4j1EK0dMD+xLHzPw4p+iyEkKbuzMHKLRPLcGmapsIYjHJiNnN84UYIYHg2zlX4Ig5DHdnug4ZM EYMXgDbPngMEALL0QT4AbEuzp2VT3MdAEQCgNxZw8OXJDG5YwOFVVkFVmCoBfusOtFJcIEGmYyWq hu4/cLjc3Eikyy388ZDfcRrrRuq6SQBIb2tR1QuAJzRk9EYAdKtOs19RSUD9RMzeAwKuDLPLGwIJ ndx0Ah6QAAP0aORk8YyAdtYeqp08CXB5AqCYYhEDxUbI930goD2bvvu+ioPn8lKjIknuLgajwmnW ea57ozAOhxLvdOvjHg49vsBJR45TS83DsqLpmqVZloVt+8IU+Wf+CXy1nrsugxWNAAAAJXRFWHRk YXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIwLTEyLTE3VDExOjQ1OjM2KzAwOjAwnCbanwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2Rp ZnkAMjAyMC0xMi0xN1QxMTo0NTozNiswMDowMO17YiMAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: T5UMUT5UMU's _Natural Sciences: Age in Decline_: "=?UTF-8?Q?=E6=9A=B4=E8=B5=B0=E6=97=8F=E3=81=AF=E8=87=AA?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E5=8B=95=E9=81=8B=E8=BB=A2=E3=81=AE=E5=A4=A2=E3=82=92=E8=A6=8B=E3=82=8B=E3=81=AE=E3=81=8B?=" Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 12:46:02 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 16 Dec 2020 00:35:04 -0500") Message-ID: <877dpglkp1.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Richard Stallman writes: > > The complication here is that `C-c C-e' is a submap (presumably), and if > > rmail binds `C-c C-e d' without that submap, there'll be a keymap > > collision. > > EPA could merge the two submaps. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Richard Stallman writes: > > The complication here is that `C-c C-e' is a submap (presumably), and if > > rmail binds `C-c C-e d' without that submap, there'll be a keymap > > collision. > > EPA could merge the two submaps. It could, but isn't that pretty unusual? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:26:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25411: 25.1; rmail decryption problems Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 05:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25411 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 25411@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 25411-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25411.160827054732343 (code B ref 25411); Fri, 18 Dec 2020 05:50:02 +0000 Received: (at 25411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Dec 2020 05:49:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37515 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kq8dW-0008Pb-UM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 00:49:07 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56514) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kq8dU-0008P6-Jt for 25411@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 00:49:05 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42260) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kq8dP-0006K1-7z; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 00:48:59 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kq8dO-0006aq-Bo; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 00:48:58 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: <877dpglkp1.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Thu, 17 Dec 2020 12:46:02 +0100) References: <871rfu93ul.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7oo1i5l.fsf@gnus.org> <878s9z3a0r.fsf@gnus.org> <877dpglkp1.fsf@gnus.org> Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 00:48:58 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > The complication here is that `C-c C-e' is a submap (presumably), and if > > > rmail binds `C-c C-e d' without that submap, there'll be a keymap > > > collision. > > > > EPA could merge the two submaps. > It could, but isn't that pretty unusual? I guess it is. Still, this would be one approach for solving the problem. There are others, too, and I don't have an opinion on which is best. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:26:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25411: 25.1; rmail decryption problems Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25411 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Richard Stallman Cc: 25411@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25411-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25411.160839204612914 (code B ref 25411); Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:35:01 +0000 Received: (at 25411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Dec 2020 15:34:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43000 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kqeFC-0003MC-4U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 10:34:06 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48518) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kqeF7-0003Lc-81 for 25411@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 10:34:04 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=XzqEq+c5gIbl6WMZOmS8RHvyEWD8wm63ncuQeg/OZ8k=; b=DVk+xOUiDgHzg9JHbJKvGhfRm7 9CvGrUexN47BJ3wYhBfk5vmbqYAA16EvA91XByV2qNIIQjncpWlKmk8gi+NkDssY1CqjaUPU/09ca POF16N2Y963yTJ8Px7Uz4jsfcP70ObPCdJt+H6GB5qIXUCHGRbMwbcFuCguQPHw1RClA=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kqeEy-00040n-4L; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 16:33:54 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <871rfu93ul.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7oo1i5l.fsf@gnus.org> <878s9z3a0r.fsf@gnus.org> <877dpglkp1.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEXy8OxRPUIpFyOk c0v////6Lr75AAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+QMEw8NGoXNJk4AAAGxSURBVDjLvVNRjuUw CGOUCwxwAsgFyuP+d1ubNKOR9ne1UdOmdcCxoSL/Yah+KwcWaqahF/DwA3j1Wfz70d0L09Vxl64i j5dKZqiF5Qyv1LNKAGq+DTBfy7ANTwWA1e5Z8xahXIQBCPUvrjlJYJOdHL3WBcIgfxglLeSReoGc AF6SutfzLLCXFgLUJuEA5QTyedrSgRLI0VHfstr2Kp6rNMgiEbsJSFvXyZPkkUikgjPwBjv4VSk2 kGq3ynrWcnNYxu3USEtQRPoIZuZXHVegA5GbBACaxC9A85h4G3dAeNApAhEIqhi5qm3jLpSP3eFh YwU02akNuqTSNgTPK7nfQkXAodg1wJBcoGdMhPHFT6g4Gu0HwGyeGYGIGKCo47QDMgOU9JMLPk2K HovVByD29OUf+hBjpxUmdtkpPc03YULE1GmPAWIA+ITv5jiI6vQEvcBvEp9AChv3GbXHot2it13Z Ptp5iLzl429H8wEzR45CR8Xb3kd3fj5M6yWoWd7jpNXb3ADYYTcmf1Zxftb8Naag2CH4bfTW4HcU 2qeiLf9ChKcp/f1NL8DKXS3vsXH9AVnHcuwud4Y2AAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIwLTEy LTE5VDE1OjEzOjI2KzAwOjAwzP6aOQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMC0xMi0xOVQxNTox MzoyNiswMDowML2jIoUAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: The Names's _Swimming_: "Shanghai Gesture (Peel Session)" Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 16:33:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 18 Dec 2020 00:48:58 -0500") Message-ID: <87im8xizdt.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Richard Stallman writes: > I guess it is. Still, this would be one approach for solving the > problem. > > There are others, too, and I don't have an opinion on which is best. I'm not an rmail user, so I don't really have much of an opinion here, either. I just know from experience that trying to DWIM with sub-keymaps on minor modes that may or may not be present is ticklis [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Richard Stallman writes: > I guess it is. Still, this would be one approach for solving the > problem. > > There are others, too, and I don't have an opinion on which is best. I'm not an rmail user, so I don't really have much of an opinion here, either. I just know from experience that trying to DWIM with sub-keymaps on minor modes that may or may not be present is ticklish, so I'd rather not go there. This is an rmail-specific command, so if rmail altered the epa keymap to add that command, that'd make it present in other modes, too. So rmail would have to look at whether the submap was present, copy it, and alter the copy. Alternatively, epa could do it, and with the same complication. So I think it'd easier to just avoid the entire problem by letting epa "own" the `C-c C-e' submap, and have the rmail-specific command on a keystroke outside that, and I chose `C-c C-d', since that seemed mnemonic "d for decrypt". -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no